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#1
How can you tell?
They say the indian casinos have straight games?
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Poker[ fixed game]
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#5
Quote Originally Posted by goinggone:
3 guys working together same game.
3 guys working together same game.
That's called collusion. Any time there is money involved, there is always the real possibility of players working together and raising pots, knowing they will split your losses at the end of the night. I am sure it happens on occasion at almost every live poker room.
I initially thought goinggone was talking about dealers fixing the games. That is HIGHLY unlikely as the cost of doing so and getting caught FAR exceeds any benefit they would receive in doing so.
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#9
Don't worry about fixed games or collusion. Worry about being a losing player.
Fixed games do happen, but they don't last long. With the information available today, a B&M or online poker room CAN'T stay in business running a crooked game. Home games may be a different story...
Collusion does happen, frequently online, but... most of the players who resort to collusion are LOSING players anyway. You have to know how to beat the game straight up before you can really take advantage of collusion. If you can beat the game, why would you risk cheating?
Games with "bad" collusion can actually be pretty profitable.
Fixed games do happen, but they don't last long. With the information available today, a B&M or online poker room CAN'T stay in business running a crooked game. Home games may be a different story...
Collusion does happen, frequently online, but... most of the players who resort to collusion are LOSING players anyway. You have to know how to beat the game straight up before you can really take advantage of collusion. If you can beat the game, why would you risk cheating?
Games with "bad" collusion can actually be pretty profitable.
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#11
collusion definitly happens.....but you can see it, when you play poker pay attention because you should be instead of sitting under your hood with sunglasses on and have an ipod in your ears blasting....instead people should fucking pay attention....
if 2-3 people are cheating and colluting with each other you should be able to spot it after a while
I will tell say this though, playing in a live game has about a 5% chance of shady cheating going on. (total guess on the %) but playing online poker has about a 85% chance of shady cheating going on. Not that its rigged but with poker bots and different ways players can cheat.
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Posted:
#12
Quote Originally Posted by MrGlue:
Don't worry about fixed games or collusion. Worry about being a losing player.
Fixed games do happen, but they don't last long. With the information available today, a B&M or online poker room CAN'T stay in business running a crooked game. Home games may be a different story...
Collusion does happen, frequently online, but... most of the players who resort to collusion are LOSING players anyway. You have to know how to beat the game straight up before you can really take advantage of collusion. If you can beat the game, why would you risk cheating?
Games with "bad" collusion can actually be pretty profitable.
Don't worry about fixed games or collusion. Worry about being a losing player.
Fixed games do happen, but they don't last long. With the information available today, a B&M or online poker room CAN'T stay in business running a crooked game. Home games may be a different story...
Collusion does happen, frequently online, but... most of the players who resort to collusion are LOSING players anyway. You have to know how to beat the game straight up before you can really take advantage of collusion. If you can beat the game, why would you risk cheating?
Games with "bad" collusion can actually be pretty profitable.
All online poker is crooked. It's all rigged to increase drama and fireworks. There are no rules or regulations over it, so who expects it to be legit? It's just like online casino's.
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#13
Quote Originally Posted by DanTos8715:
All online poker is crooked. It's all rigged to increase drama and fireworks. There are no rules or regulations over it, so who expects it to be legit? It's just like online casino's.
Not crooked. Stars, Tilt, and others are making WAY too much money to let any cheating go on. Sure, it CAN happen but... most cheats are really bad players and wind up losing anyway AND the sites work diligently to eliminate any shady activity.
With the tracking software and web pages available, online poker is partially regulated by the players themselves.
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#14
Quote Originally Posted by MrGlue:
Not crooked. Stars, Tilt, and others are making WAY too much money to let any cheating go on. Sure, it CAN happen but... most cheats are really bad players and wind up losing anyway AND the sites work diligently to eliminate any shady activity.
With the tracking software and web pages available, online poker is partially regulated by the players themselves.
Not crooked. Stars, Tilt, and others are making WAY too much money to let any cheating go on. Sure, it CAN happen but... most cheats are really bad players and wind up losing anyway AND the sites work diligently to eliminate any shady activity.
With the tracking software and web pages available, online poker is partially regulated by the players themselves.
who is this, chancep under another name? mrglue, obviously another poker site promoter like bodog becky. these rigged sites can do AND do whatever they want. there are no controls. but there are still plenty of idiots who still believe online poker isnt rigged.and pieces of shit like you who make them believe.
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Posted:
#15
Quote Originally Posted by SOBLATANT:
who is this, chancep under another name? mrglue, obviously another poker site promoter like bodog becky. these rigged sites can do AND do whatever they want. there are no controls. but there are still plenty of idiots who still believe online poker isnt rigged.and pieces of shit like you who make them believe.
I am not chancep. Also, not a poker site promoter. Which site is it that you think I am promoting?
How is online poker rigged? Which sites are rigging it? What evidence, if any, do you have to back up your claims?
soblatant- You're wrong about me being chancep, wrong about me being a poker site promoter, and wrong about "online poker" being rigged. I am actually impressed by your volume of failure...
And, I also think you're wrong to attack me personally.
LOTS of poker players play online and win. I'm not trying to "make" anyone "believe" anything, it's a fact. Check out any of the online poker tracking sites...
Whenever I hear the rigged argument, it seems to come from a losing player with a fragile ego. It HAS to be rigged, right? How else could they lose?
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#16
MrGlue obviously is still fairly new to internet poker,,,,,,,,, anybody thats played several thousand hands of internet poker and then still thinks it's legit is either a tard, site promoter or the 1 in 1000 who may have a lucky account,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, internet poker is run by software, not live cards falling from a dealers hand,,,,,,, the software is designed to make sure that in the long run you will be a net loser! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, most decent players will open an account and have a good run for a few weeks but then as written into the software enough unlikley bad beats will come along to finally take your account to zero and then most players will of course reload remembering the good run they had and blaming the bad run on plain ol bad luck,,,,, but nothing ever changes as the bad times will last longer than the good times and unsuspecting pimple faced kids across the globe keep on reloading over and over again! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hey mom, can i have another $100 to send to jokerstars?, my KK just got beat by 9-3 offsuit yet again!!!!!
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Posted:
#17
Quote Originally Posted by MrGlue:
I am not chancep. Also, not a poker site promoter. Which site is it that you think I am promoting?
How is online poker rigged? Which sites are rigging it? What evidence, if any, do you have to back up your claims?
soblatant- You're wrong about me being chancep, wrong about me being a poker site promoter, and wrong about "online poker" being rigged. I am actually impressed by your volume of failure...
And, I also think you're wrong to attack me personally.
LOTS of poker players play online and win. I'm not trying to "make" anyone "believe" anything, it's a fact. Check out any of the online poker tracking sites...
Whenever I hear the rigged argument, it seems to come from a losing player with a fragile ego. It HAS to be rigged, right? How else could they lose?
I am not chancep. Also, not a poker site promoter. Which site is it that you think I am promoting?
How is online poker rigged? Which sites are rigging it? What evidence, if any, do you have to back up your claims?
soblatant- You're wrong about me being chancep, wrong about me being a poker site promoter, and wrong about "online poker" being rigged. I am actually impressed by your volume of failure...
And, I also think you're wrong to attack me personally.
LOTS of poker players play online and win. I'm not trying to "make" anyone "believe" anything, it's a fact. Check out any of the online poker tracking sites...
Whenever I hear the rigged argument, it seems to come from a losing player with a fragile ego. It HAS to be rigged, right? How else could they lose?
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Posted:
#18
Quote Originally Posted by FoolishTool:
MrGlue obviously is still fairly new to internet poker,,,,,,,,, anybody thats played several thousand hands of internet poker and then still thinks it's legit is either a tard, site promoter or the 1 in 1000 who may have a lucky account,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, internet poker is run by software, not live cards falling from a dealers hand,,,,,,, the software is designed to make sure that in the long run you will be a net loser! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, most decent players will open an account and have a good run for a few weeks but then as written into the software enough unlikley bad beats will come along to finally take your account to zero and then most players will of course reload remembering the good run they had and blaming the bad run on plain ol bad luck,,,,, but nothing ever changes as the bad times will last longer than the good times and unsuspecting pimple faced kids across the globe keep on reloading over and over again! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hey mom, can i have another $100 to send to jokerstars?, my KK just got beat by 9-3 offsuit yet again!!!!!
MrGlue obviously is still fairly new to internet poker,,,,,,,,, anybody thats played several thousand hands of internet poker and then still thinks it's legit is either a tard, site promoter or the 1 in 1000 who may have a lucky account,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, internet poker is run by software, not live cards falling from a dealers hand,,,,,,, the software is designed to make sure that in the long run you will be a net loser! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, most decent players will open an account and have a good run for a few weeks but then as written into the software enough unlikley bad beats will come along to finally take your account to zero and then most players will of course reload remembering the good run they had and blaming the bad run on plain ol bad luck,,,,, but nothing ever changes as the bad times will last longer than the good times and unsuspecting pimple faced kids across the globe keep on reloading over and over again! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hey mom, can i have another $100 to send to jokerstars?, my KK just got beat by 9-3 offsuit yet again!!!!!
Exactly right it happened to me on every site I have joined
I am just too dumb to get out after I turned my 12 bucks in 780.
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Posted:
#19
[Quote: Originally Posted by WillyWonka]
Exactly right it happened to me on every site I have joined
I am just too dumb to get out after I turned my 12 bucks in 780.
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thats great news WillyDonka, i turned $50 into $1000 on 2 different sites,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but if you keep playing you will get your asz hammered back down, it's built into the software,,,, now if you're smart enough to cash out and quit you can say you was a winner, but nobody does that because by then they have visions of bigger and bigger money, but then the bad beats come along a little more often along with your poor money management the next thing you know you'll be reloading and playing the game that they have programmed for you to play, a lifetime of reloads unless you're smart enough to quit!
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Posted:
#20
Quote Originally Posted by FoolishTool:
Quote Originally Posted by WillyWonka:
Exactly right it happened to me on every site I have joined
I am just too dumb to get out after I turned my 12 bucks in 780.
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Exactly right it happened to me on every site I have joined
I am just too dumb to get out after I turned my 12 bucks in 780.
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thats great news WillyDonka, i turned $50 into $1000 on 2 different sites,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but if you keep playing you will get your asz hammered back down, it's built into the software,,,, now if you're smart enough to cash out and quit you can say you was a winner, but nobody does that because by then they have visions of bigger and bigger money, but then the bad beats come along a little more often along with your poor money management the next thing you know you'll be reloading and playing the game that they have programmed for you to play, a lifetime of reloads unless you're smart enough to quit!
they are comparable to drug dealers. rig the sites to hook you up when you first start, make you feel good about the whole thing, take your big balance down to zero, and then you have a bitch of a time staying away.
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Posted:
#21
I think I may have a different definition of "rigged". I don't view cheating or player collusion as sites being rigged.
Cheating happens in everything. Players collude all the time. But, most of them aren't any good and wind up getting caught.
Why would sites want you to lose? You lose your roll, get discouraged, and leave... no more rake from you. How does that profit them?
Cheating happens in everything. Players collude all the time. But, most of them aren't any good and wind up getting caught.
Why would sites want you to lose? You lose your roll, get discouraged, and leave... no more rake from you. How does that profit them?
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Posted:
#23
By the way...shmucks
I have amost the same yearly winrate online and I do live (when you compair hands played not hours played)
I play around 20 hours a week online and 16 hours a week live....so of course I play waaaaay more hands online....but when you break it down by hand it's about the same.
From 2001 to 2006 I played 30 hours a week online and 30 hours a week live and my results were again right around the same win rate (of course that win rate was much higher thanks to the massive amount of donks who showed up online in 2004, God I miss the mid-2000's 
)
So....again...I must have one these magic lucky accounts and I just dont suck at Poker and blame it on the software 
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Posted:
#25
This thread is funny. Seems like its the same old donks on here crying rigged. They say theyre not losing players yet can provide no proof. Then people provide proof that theyre winning players and offer advice and the losing players still dont listen, Poker will always be a profitable game, thanks guys
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