24 “Obama Refugees” Just Got Exposed as ISLAMIC TERRORISTS

President Trump’s White House just released a list to Fox News that contains the names of 24 “refugees,” charged with TERRORISM from the 7 “terror hotbed” countries affected by Trump’s travel ban.

This move proves Obama’s lies regarding the refugee program in an attempt to cover-up the shocking truth.

Once again, Trump is right.

Watch the video:

https://truthfeed.com/breaking-trojan-horse-24-obama-refugees-just-got-exposed-as-islamic-terrorists/51377/

Twinsonic

According to fakenewschecker, truthfeed publishes speculative opinion or propaganda that cannot be validated by evidence.  It is among the most untrustworthy sources in media. 

Not a single person has died in any attack by terrorists in the United States from the 7 blocked countries since 2001.  Vast majority of terrorist attacks are commited by American citizens, especially non-muslim extremists in the US.

you are right, but we actually have very good preventative measures in place.  trump never seems to mention this, not sure he knows anything about it, but we have a very long and thorough process in place to screen people before they can come over here on any sort of official immigration status.  i would say this is a main reason why none of the people who have come through this process from these countries has committed any violent crimes.

these are the people we want, who make this country great and want to get away from the middle east disaster and couldn't be happier to be in america and contribute.  (you know so,rt of the opposite of many trump supporters ). 

incidentally, the ClubDirtSports and Immigration services represents people who go through this process.  so, if any of you want to bring one over after visiting arabsingles.com, give us a call and we'll see what we can do for you guys. 

zelo, here's what i'm prepared to do for you. 

go on this website and pick out a winner.  the more muslim, the better.  a lot of these middle eastern chicks are hot.  if you can dial down the trump anti-muslim crazy to a reasonable level and get this chick interested, we'll give you half off on all immigration services to bring her here.

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my understanding is this is not a problem for zelo.  in fact, it's one of his likes when he signs up for these matching websites.

i'm sure our current vetting system can be improved, just like everything else our government does.

i'm just not sure trump is the guy to do it.  he's good at pushing his supporters' buttons, but he's very short on specifics. 


we've already seen many more people getting detained who weren't before.  that's very good for our business. but i'm not sure it's good for anything else.  i guess we'll see what comes from it. 

yes, they break the law when they get here but it isn't that simple.  for many of them, they are essentially invited here by companies who know they can either get cheap labor or can get employees who will do the brutal work that others won't do.  migrant farm work, for example.  so technically, they are breaking the law but they aren't really doing anything we wouldn't do if born into their situations.  and the country needs them unless we want to start paying a shitload more for basic items.

and then they are here for years and get married and have kids and now we want to kick them out of the country?  no one can tell me that's a net positive for us.

obama's plan was the right one.  if any illegal commits a serious crime, kick them out.  otherwise, we don't need to disrupt families and kick out people we've taken advantage of so we can have cheapo fruits and vegetables just because they walked over some line and we call that criminal even if we welcome them with open arms and take advantage of their underpaid labor. 

What if the illegals doing the farm work/hard labor, and other such tasks were prevented from coming in, and they were replaced by legal US citizens currently on welfare who are able bodied. Lets assume those on welfare were RIGHTFULLY paid more money to do the tasks that the illegals do, and as you pointed out this would cause an increase in consumer goods. Now what if the government were to save "bigly" on the cost of welfare because of this, and those saved funds could be used for tax cuts for those spending more on consumer goods, or used to supplement the farmers who are now paying more for labor so they don't have to raise prices.


i think we need someone more versed in economics to evaluate whether this would work, in theory.  maybe your friend wall street can chime in.

ideally, we'd have more americans working and less need for foreigners.  but, i'm not sure we have the able bodied people on welfare numbers to do the work these immigrants do.  the work they do is brutal.  people on welfare are children, people who already work but don't make much money, the elderly, disabled vets and people like that.  there just aren't that many 28 year olds in decent health who sit on their behind all day and collect welfare checks 9although we do have a couple here in the politcs forum who are fervent trump supporters )

also, not sure employers would go for it.  of course, you can make them go for it, and we actually have laws in place to do that but those laws aren't enforced and we all know why.  but it's not just a matter of paying jose $3/hour when you have to pay john $7/hour.  if these companies followed the laws and hired only legal people, they'd have to pay taxes and pay for workers comp insurance and pay for proper safety equipment and pay overtime and give them proper breaks and properly train them, etc.  so, it's a lot more expensive and those costs obviously would get transferred to consumers and no one is going to go for that.


generally, i'm of the opinion that the truly conservative way is usually the right way, the republican way is almost never the right way and the democrat way is sometimes the right way.  but of course, that's just a general opinion. 

Trump loves to be vague or generalize on a regular basis.  The day he expounds on what extreme vetting actually is in intricate detail and why countries such as Saudi Arabia aren't on the list, is probably the day I might start taking his presidency seriously.   Most of what he's done is sign off on executive orders (something that Republicans abhorred Obama for, but I'm willing to bet that Trump issues more executive orders in one term than Obama did in two terms). 

Obama understood constitutional law quite well and I'm not even sure Trump has read the entire U.S. Constitution.  The juxtaposition is very stark with this administration and I'm expecting him to get soldiers killed.  Also, as I've said before, you can only defer to your counterparts for so much when it comes to leadership.  I read an article that talked about how he may have signed the executive order that elevated Bannon's position without reading it beforehand.  That wouldn't really be all that surprising since I know other people are drafting up the orders for him.

Y'all r hitting on the troubling aspects of immigration issue from both sides but unfortunately nothing ever gets done. In my view, there is no practical solution, including the joke of a wall, until u address the fundamental problems of demand for drugs and cheap labor.  It would seem we could come up w a reasonable solution in the middle somewhere but u have the bombthrowers from both sides screaming too much.

i agree with the primary point.  nothing serious and effective is ever getting done.  no one really wants it.  it's an interesting issue to discuss though.  clearly the US should know as much as possible who is coming into the country and when, keep the good ones and get rid of the bad ones, but from there is gets very complicated and difficult.   the best thing to do is live in a place like austin and bask in the glory and prosperity of varied culture and liberalism.


about sanctuary cities, it is a misused (by politicians and the media, of course) and misunderstood term like many other buzzwords (socialism, fascist, capitalism, etc)

"sanctuary city" is not a term of art, meaning it can mean quite different things depending on what the city is doing and what the federal government is asking it to do.

first, people should understand that immigration law is 100% the obligation of the federal government.  state and local governments have no legal obligations or authority under immigration law.  that doesn't mean cities and states should just ignore the issue.  they can help and they can impede it.

again, it's really hard to say what a sanctuary city is without knowing the details of what is happening in that city.  there are things i think cities should do and things they should not do and some things that are not constitutional that trump may ask them to do. 

 

Interestingly I do live in Austin but I take extreme issue if u r saying that Austin is some type of hallmark on the immigration issue.   Again, i know and have sympathy for a lot of these "illegals" but the bottom line is they r breaking the law and 1 side (u may argue they don't have a choice) is encouraging and supporting them to do it.   Also, what kind of system do we have where these people essentially have to live their entire life in fear.   Regardless of how complicated or difficult the problem is a little leadership and the problem can be solved

i put that austin comment there because i know you live in austin.  .  i actually considered moving there but, given that it's still located in texas, i'm going to wait until my kids graduate high school so they can be sure to learn math and science. 



which side isn't encouraging and supporting immigrants to break the law, if not verbally, then by our policies, employment practices and refusal to truly attack the problem by enforcing the laws that require employers to only hire people legally permitted to work here?

"Grapes of Wrath", John Steinbeck.

California = America.

alchohol = drugs

place a ez at end of last names in lue of vowel or y

sanctuary cities = Federal lands

and you will have the forced labor addressed.

those are the lucky ones in todays America.

If u can handle the summer heat I would strongly recommend Austin.     And u r exactly right.   For 25+ years I worked for a state agency providing legal advice to Tx employers.   They would literally lecture me asking what they were suppose to do when their competitor down the street was using illegal workers to bring down costs.   I never had an answer.     Just too many instances where r system punishes the poor honest guy i.e. What r we suppose to say to the 1s who r trying to play by the broken immigration rules and waiting the 5 yrs or whatever to get in.  The rights position on immigration is a joke, too.

if you can get me a job, i'd move there. 


i stress to my kids, math and science, math and science and always be reading. 

I was through with this thread when the O.P. stated (Post #1) that DJT, Fox News, and truthfeed....kom can be relied on to post the accurate truth.