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    Another Romney Flip and Flop - Assault Weapons

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    AustinHoopDream
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 9:26 AM ET #1

    looks like the flipmaster in chief is at it again. finding yet another way to flip flop on another wedge issue.

    back in Massachusetts Romney enacted an assault weapons ban as governor of Massachusetts said AR-15 assault rifles used in the Colorado shooting were "instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

    but now when Flip Romney is running for president ....he doesn't want to change any national laws on assault weapons....he just wants to change the hearts of the bad guys so they don't do it again...

    jesus, does this guy stand for ANYTHING?????


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    looks like the flipmaster in chief is at it again. finding yet another way to flip flop on another wedge issue.

    back in Massachusetts Romney enacted an assault weapons ban as governor of Massachusetts said AR-15 assault rifles used in the Colorado shooting were "instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

    but now when Flip Romney is running for president ....he doesn't want to change any national laws on assault weapons....he just wants to change the hearts of the bad guys so they don't do it again...

    jesus, does this guy stand for ANYTHING?????


     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 9:49 AM ET #2

     Yes indeed.. he stands for overseas. Overseas Jobs , overseas money offshore.

    He and 5 sons. None served in the armed forces, what does that tell you ?

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     Yes indeed.. he stands for overseas. Overseas Jobs , overseas money offshore.

    He and 5 sons. None served in the armed forces, what does that tell you ?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 10:10 AM ET #3

    He's taking the same stance he is with healthcare which isn't flip flopping.

    He has stated before that what is good for Mass. may not be good for the rest of the country.

    I personally don't agree with state run healthcare or a weapons ban (non fully-automatic rifles) but the people of Mass. do and he gave them what they wanted.

    Every politician has their own beliefs (abortion, healthcare, 2nd amendment) but they can meet their constituents in the middle without compromising their beliefs.

    He is the type of politician people are always asking to have. Reaching across the aisle and working with the other party. That is why conservatives are leery.
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    He's taking the same stance he is with healthcare which isn't flip flopping.

    He has stated before that what is good for Mass. may not be good for the rest of the country.

    I personally don't agree with state run healthcare or a weapons ban (non fully-automatic rifles) but the people of Mass. do and he gave them what they wanted.

    Every politician has their own beliefs (abortion, healthcare, 2nd amendment) but they can meet their constituents in the middle without compromising their beliefs.

    He is the type of politician people are always asking to have. Reaching across the aisle and working with the other party. That is why conservatives are leery.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    He's taking the same stance he is with healthcare which isn't flip flopping.

    He has stated before that what is good for Mass. may not be good for the rest of the country.

    I personally don't agree with state run healthcare or a weapons ban (non fully-automatic rifles) but the people of Mass. do and he gave them what they wanted.

    Every politician has their own beliefs (abortion, healthcare, 2nd amendment) but they can meet their constituents in the middle without compromising their beliefs.

    He is the type of politician people are always asking to have. Reaching across the aisle and working with the other party. That is why conservatives are leery.


    that is mitt in a nutshell. he has no core. he has no soul. he will smash his own beliefs because it is what he thinks will get him elected. if you stand for everything you stand for nothing.

    that is not a leader. that is an opportunist silver spooner with daddy
    competition issues.





    pathetic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    He's taking the same stance he is with healthcare which isn't flip flopping.

    He has stated before that what is good for Mass. may not be good for the rest of the country.

    I personally don't agree with state run healthcare or a weapons ban (non fully-automatic rifles) but the people of Mass. do and he gave them what they wanted.

    Every politician has their own beliefs (abortion, healthcare, 2nd amendment) but they can meet their constituents in the middle without compromising their beliefs.

    He is the type of politician people are always asking to have. Reaching across the aisle and working with the other party. That is why conservatives are leery.


    that is mitt in a nutshell. he has no core. he has no soul. he will smash his own beliefs because it is what he thinks will get him elected. if you stand for everything you stand for nothing.

    that is not a leader. that is an opportunist silver spooner with daddy
    competition issues.





    pathetic.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 10:38 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

     Yes indeed.. he stands for overseas. Overseas Jobs , overseas money offshore.

    He and 5 sons. None served in the armed forces, what does that tell you ?


    As usual, there is never any thought process or grade school comprehension in your posts! No one has to join the Armed Forces, it's optional, like College, you don't have to go if you don't want too! Unlike you however, you're too dumb to go to College, and have become a waste to Society, as we can see!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

     Yes indeed.. he stands for overseas. Overseas Jobs , overseas money offshore.

    He and 5 sons. None served in the armed forces, what does that tell you ?


    As usual, there is never any thought process or grade school comprehension in your posts! No one has to join the Armed Forces, it's optional, like College, you don't have to go if you don't want too! Unlike you however, you're too dumb to go to College, and have become a waste to Society, as we can see!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 10:46 AM ET #6

    he also quadrupled the state firearm license fee from $25.00 to $100.00. In 2002 he stated " we do have tough gun laws in Mass. i support them. I won't chip away at them. I believe they protect us and provide  for our safety."
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    he also quadrupled the state firearm license fee from $25.00 to $100.00. In 2002 he stated " we do have tough gun laws in Mass. i support them. I won't chip away at them. I believe they protect us and provide  for our safety."
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 11:00 AM ET #7

    The question is really what is the role of the politician -- to try to mold his policies to what HIS beliefs are versus to mold his policies to what his CONSTITUENTS' beliefs may be.
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    The question is really what is the role of the politician -- to try to mold his policies to what HIS beliefs are versus to mold his policies to what his CONSTITUENTS' beliefs may be.
     
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    JR,
    don juan didn't deserve that.Plus,he's 70 yrs.young.
    Respect your elders.
    Enjoy the smell of some cardboard for a while.

    kapono, well stated !
    Personally,speaking of being stated, I'm still undefined in my opinion of states having different gun laws.

    "The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining." ~ JFK

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    JR,
    don juan didn't deserve that.Plus,he's 70 yrs.young.
    Respect your elders.
    Enjoy the smell of some cardboard for a while.

    kapono, well stated !
    Personally,speaking of being stated, I'm still undefined in my opinion of states having different gun laws.

    "The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining." ~ JFK

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 1:45 PM ET #9

    why did JR get boxed??  
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    why did JR get boxed??  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 4:13 PM ET #10

    Care to venture a guess, capt? I was going to ask the same question.
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    Care to venture a guess, capt? I was going to ask the same question.
     
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    {{{{{The question is really what is the role of the politician -- to try to mold his policies to what HIS beliefs are versus to mold his policies to what his CONSTITUENTS' beliefs may be. }}}}}

     

    The age old dilemma......

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    {{{{{The question is really what is the role of the politician -- to try to mold his policies to what HIS beliefs are versus to mold his policies to what his CONSTITUENTS' beliefs may be. }}}}}

     

    The age old dilemma......

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    why did JR get boxed??  

    Read his reply and figure it out. The need to make personal insults when you disagree is always something we encourage..


    On topic, of course Mitt is gripping for votes and you think he wants to piss off the right side gun fans?

    He is such a phony, fits right in with the establishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    why did JR get boxed??  

    Read his reply and figure it out. The need to make personal insults when you disagree is always something we encourage..


    On topic, of course Mitt is gripping for votes and you think he wants to piss off the right side gun fans?

    He is such a phony, fits right in with the establishment.
     
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    "Read his reply and figure it out. The need to make personal insults when you disagree is always something we encourage.."

    If that's true.. I guess you didn't open This thread,,...

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    "Read his reply and figure it out. The need to make personal insults when you disagree is always something we encourage.."

    If that's true.. I guess you didn't open This thread,,...

     
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    romney should market TEVAs
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    romney should market TEVAs
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "Read his reply and figure it out. The need to make personal insults when you disagree is always something we encourage.."

    If that's true.. I guess you didn't open This thread,,...


    You fall square into this category yourself SS..

    Might not want to stir the pot again, you know how that has worked for you in the past..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "Read his reply and figure it out. The need to make personal insults when you disagree is always something we encourage.."

    If that's true.. I guess you didn't open This thread,,...


    You fall square into this category yourself SS..

    Might not want to stir the pot again, you know how that has worked for you in the past..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:

    looks like the flipmaster in chief is at it again. finding yet another way to flip flop on another wedge issue.

    back in Massachusetts Romney enacted an assault weapons ban as governor of Massachusetts said AR-15 assault rifles used in the Colorado shooting were "instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

    but now when Flip Romney is running for president ....he doesn't want to change any national laws on assault weapons....he just wants to change the hearts of the bad guys so they don't do it again...

    jesus, does this guy stand for ANYTHING?????


    He wants the individual states to enact their own laws, like Massachusetts did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:

    looks like the flipmaster in chief is at it again. finding yet another way to flip flop on another wedge issue.

    back in Massachusetts Romney enacted an assault weapons ban as governor of Massachusetts said AR-15 assault rifles used in the Colorado shooting were "instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

    but now when Flip Romney is running for president ....he doesn't want to change any national laws on assault weapons....he just wants to change the hearts of the bad guys so they don't do it again...

    jesus, does this guy stand for ANYTHING?????


    He wants the individual states to enact their own laws, like Massachusetts did.
     
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    I love how slim takes this site so seriously.like people are out to get him...
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    I love how slim takes this site so seriously.like people are out to get him...
     
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    originally posted by wallstreetcappers:
     
    You fall square into this category yourself SS..

    Might not want to stir the pot again, you know how that has worked for you in the past..
     
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    WSC why do you have to make excuses and warn off slim for merely pointing out to you AGAIN that you're not calling balls and strikes the same for everyone?
     
    No question that stiln is far worse than slim when it comes to bashing, yet you mysteriously think otherwise.
     
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    originally posted by wallstreetcappers:
     
    You fall square into this category yourself SS..

    Might not want to stir the pot again, you know how that has worked for you in the past..
     
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    WSC why do you have to make excuses and warn off slim for merely pointing out to you AGAIN that you're not calling balls and strikes the same for everyone?
     
    No question that stiln is far worse than slim when it comes to bashing, yet you mysteriously think otherwise.
     
    Please call balls and strikes the same for both teams.
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    I agree with post #3
     
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    QUOTE Originally Posted by Stiln:
     


    I love how slim takes this site so seriously.like people are out to get him...
     
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    No, it's not that way at all...
     
    LR7302001 gets boxed for being rude and insulting don juan's intelligence........

    "never any grade school comprehension in your posts ... you're too dumb to go to College, and have become a waste to Society
     
    Unprovoked... you make these 4 rude and insulting comments about my intelligence....things you would never say in person ..and it's overlooked ..
     
     
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    "Sarah, this message board rarely sees any kind of independent thoughtful response from you"
     
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    "God damn... you're really a peculiar fuck Sarah?"
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    QUOTE Originally Posted by Stiln:
     


    I love how slim takes this site so seriously.like people are out to get him...
     
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    No, it's not that way at all...
     
    LR7302001 gets boxed for being rude and insulting don juan's intelligence........

    "never any grade school comprehension in your posts ... you're too dumb to go to College, and have become a waste to Society
     
    Unprovoked... you make these 4 rude and insulting comments about my intelligence....things you would never say in person ..and it's overlooked ..
     
     
    "It is like talking to an 11 year old and asking them to articulate or elaborate.. it rarely happens.."
     
    "Sarah, this message board rarely sees any kind of independent thoughtful response from you"
     
    "Perhaps you lack the fundamental intellectual capacity to be able to think for yourself"
     
    "God damn... you're really a peculiar fuck Sarah?"
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 9:07 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    originally posted by wallstreetcappers:
     
    You fall square into this category yourself SS..

    Might not want to stir the pot again, you know how that has worked for you in the past..
     
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    WSC why do you have to make excuses and warn off slim for merely pointing out to you AGAIN that you're not calling balls and strikes the same for everyone?
     
    No question that stiln is far worse than slim when it comes to bashing, yet you mysteriously think otherwise.
     
    Please call balls and strikes the same for both teams.
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    I agree with post #3

    I highly disagree with your conclusion. 

    The reality is the style might be different but the output is probably more slanted to one side than you realize.

    Best to not provoke yourself bowls, you are biased as you say I am and your conclusion is way off the mark.

    There are many ways to bash and antagonize, you obviously are either not looking or are not in tune with how some members play the game..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    originally posted by wallstreetcappers:
     
    You fall square into this category yourself SS..

    Might not want to stir the pot again, you know how that has worked for you in the past..
     
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    WSC why do you have to make excuses and warn off slim for merely pointing out to you AGAIN that you're not calling balls and strikes the same for everyone?
     
    No question that stiln is far worse than slim when it comes to bashing, yet you mysteriously think otherwise.
     
    Please call balls and strikes the same for both teams.
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    I agree with post #3

    I highly disagree with your conclusion. 

    The reality is the style might be different but the output is probably more slanted to one side than you realize.

    Best to not provoke yourself bowls, you are biased as you say I am and your conclusion is way off the mark.

    There are many ways to bash and antagonize, you obviously are either not looking or are not in tune with how some members play the game..

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 9:16 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by Stiln:
     


    I love how slim takes this site so seriously.like people are out to get him...
     
    QUOTE
     
    No, it's not that way at all...
     
    LR7302001 gets boxed for being rude and insulting don juan's intelligence........

    "never any grade school comprehension in your posts ... you're too dumb to go to College, and have become a waste to Society
     
    Unprovoked... you make these 4 rude and insulting comments about my intelligence....things you would never say in person ..and it's overlooked ..
     
     
    "It is like talking to an 11 year old and asking them to articulate or elaborate.. it rarely happens.."
     
    "Sarah, this message board rarely sees any kind of independent thoughtful response from you"
     
    "Perhaps you lack the fundamental intellectual capacity to be able to think for yourself"
     
    "God damn... you're really a peculiar fuck Sarah?"


    That guy has 34 posts and is likely an alias of some kind.... no?

    Why are you so attached to this forum. These discussions are entertaining more than anything. But you and bowlfuck and others like to think these threads are an example of ones intellectual prowess.

    Newsflash!!!! They are not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by Stiln:
     


    I love how slim takes this site so seriously.like people are out to get him...
     
    QUOTE
     
    No, it's not that way at all...
     
    LR7302001 gets boxed for being rude and insulting don juan's intelligence........

    "never any grade school comprehension in your posts ... you're too dumb to go to College, and have become a waste to Society
     
    Unprovoked... you make these 4 rude and insulting comments about my intelligence....things you would never say in person ..and it's overlooked ..
     
     
    "It is like talking to an 11 year old and asking them to articulate or elaborate.. it rarely happens.."
     
    "Sarah, this message board rarely sees any kind of independent thoughtful response from you"
     
    "Perhaps you lack the fundamental intellectual capacity to be able to think for yourself"
     
    "God damn... you're really a peculiar fuck Sarah?"


    That guy has 34 posts and is likely an alias of some kind.... no?

    Why are you so attached to this forum. These discussions are entertaining more than anything. But you and bowlfuck and others like to think these threads are an example of ones intellectual prowess.

    Newsflash!!!! They are not!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 10:11 PM ET #22

    Wally, tighten your your game up a little bit son...

    not askin' much  

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    Wally, tighten your your game up a little bit son...

    not askin' much  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 10:21 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    Wally, tighten your your game up a little bit son...

    not askin' much  


    son?



    Biases run in all directions, and the length of history here is pretty long with SEVERAL posters..

    What you are asking is based on not seeing all of history and all of the players here.

    Some people know how to operate differently and most all have plenty of involvement..so what you see in a thread or two or five is not at all representative of the full story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    Wally, tighten your your game up a little bit son...

    not askin' much  


    son?



    Biases run in all directions, and the length of history here is pretty long with SEVERAL posters..

    What you are asking is based on not seeing all of history and all of the players here.

    Some people know how to operate differently and most all have plenty of involvement..so what you see in a thread or two or five is not at all representative of the full story.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 10:32 PM ET #24

    the son was just a stick in the eye and i must say i am disappointed  

    been around long enough (double handshake)

    wish i had time to help with the objectivity...

    drinks on me  

     

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    the son was just a stick in the eye and i must say i am disappointed  

    been around long enough (double handshake)

    wish i had time to help with the objectivity...

    drinks on me  

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2012 - 10:59 PM ET #25

    QUOTE Originally Posted by Stiln:

    That guy has 34 posts and is likely an alias of some kind.... no?

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    No, a lack of post counts does not make a member an alias..... he has the same born on date as you..Dec 2010..just less posts ..

    I don't think it was what he posted in this thread ..that got him boxed anyway...he probably was on a hit list for what he posted 10 days ago...

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    QUOTE Originally Posted by Stiln:

    That guy has 34 posts and is likely an alias of some kind.... no?

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    No, a lack of post counts does not make a member an alias..... he has the same born on date as you..Dec 2010..just less posts ..

    I don't think it was what he posted in this thread ..that got him boxed anyway...he probably was on a hit list for what he posted 10 days ago...

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