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    Biden nails the State of The Union!

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    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 4:16 AM ET #1

    One of the better speeches he's made and he accurately hit all the factual highlights!

     

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    One of the better speeches he's made and he accurately hit all the factual highlights!

     

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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 4:26 AM ET #2

    I especially liked how he highlighted the vast number of bipartisan legislation he signed into law,  totally unprecedented by any president in their first two years!

          an_clap

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    I especially liked how he highlighted the vast number of bipartisan legislation he signed into law,  totally unprecedented by any president in their first two years!

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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 9:09 AM ET #3

    In fighting spirit, Biden revels in baiting republicans into hissing and booing despite McCarthy earlier caution for decorum.  Best moment is Biden owning Greene.  This shows republicans are fanatics with no idea what the truth is and they don't care.

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    In fighting spirit, Biden revels in baiting republicans into hissing and booing despite McCarthy earlier caution for decorum.  Best moment is Biden owning Greene.  This shows republicans are fanatics with no idea what the truth is and they don't care.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 9:38 AM ET #4

    Biden is a coward.

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    Biden is a coward.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 12:17 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    One of the better speeches he's made and he accurately hit all the factual highlights!

     

    a good state of the union overall   though maybe not one of his top 3 speeches   

    still good though

    i like the way he baited the deplorable republicans  at the sotu on the medicare and social security  issues to openly denounce making cuts and get them on camera for public record in unanimous agreement there must be no cuts ! an_roll_laugh

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    One of the better speeches he's made and he accurately hit all the factual highlights!

     

    a good state of the union overall   though maybe not one of his top 3 speeches   

    still good though

    i like the way he baited the deplorable republicans  at the sotu on the medicare and social security  issues to openly denounce making cuts and get them on camera for public record in unanimous agreement there must be no cuts ! an_roll_laugh

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 12:17 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    One of the better speeches he's made and he accurately hit all the factual highlights!

     

    a good state of the union overall   though maybe not one of his top 3 speeches   

    still good though

    i like the way he baited the deplorable republicans  at the sotu on the medicare and social security  issues to openly denounce making cuts and get them on camera for public record in unanimous agreement there must be no cuts ! an_roll_laugh

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    One of the better speeches he's made and he accurately hit all the factual highlights!

     

    a good state of the union overall   though maybe not one of his top 3 speeches   

    still good though

    i like the way he baited the deplorable republicans  at the sotu on the medicare and social security  issues to openly denounce making cuts and get them on camera for public record in unanimous agreement there must be no cuts ! an_roll_laugh

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 12:21 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by gri:

    sanders is a liar like her former boss.

    no doubt about it

    worst rebuttal speech we have ever witnessed

    deplorable     thumbs_down

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gri:

    sanders is a liar like her former boss.

    no doubt about it

    worst rebuttal speech we have ever witnessed

    deplorable     thumbs_down

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 3:33 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:


    President Biden on the infrastructure law...

    "To my Republican friends who voted against it
    but still ask to fund projects in their districts, don't worry.
    I promised to be the president for all Americans.
    "We'll fund your projects. And I'll see you at the ground-breaking."

     

    Nailed it!   an_cheers

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:


    President Biden on the infrastructure law...

    "To my Republican friends who voted against it
    but still ask to fund projects in their districts, don't worry.
    I promised to be the president for all Americans.
    "We'll fund your projects. And I'll see you at the ground-breaking."

     

    Nailed it!   an_cheers

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 3:37 PM ET #9

    President Biden calls latest jobs report
    ‘strikingly good news’

     

    President Joe Biden said Friday’s jobs report is
    “strikingly good news,” arguing that it’s yet another sign
    that his economic plan is working.

    “Today, I’m happy to report that the State of the Union
    and the state of our economy is strong," Biden said in
    accurate remarks at the White House.

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    President Biden calls latest jobs report
    ‘strikingly good news’

     

    President Joe Biden said Friday’s jobs report is
    “strikingly good news,” arguing that it’s yet another sign
    that his economic plan is working.

    “Today, I’m happy to report that the State of the Union
    and the state of our economy is strong," Biden said in
    accurate remarks at the White House.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 4:20 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: President Biden on the infrastructure law... "To my Republican friends who voted against it but still ask to fund projects in their districts, don't worry. I promised to be the president for all Americans. "We'll fund your projects. And I'll see you at the ground-breaking."   Nailed it!

    joe calls it like it really is an_cheers

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: President Biden on the infrastructure law... "To my Republican friends who voted against it but still ask to fund projects in their districts, don't worry. I promised to be the president for all Americans. "We'll fund your projects. And I'll see you at the ground-breaking."   Nailed it!

    joe calls it like it really is an_cheers

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 4:36 PM ET #11

    Sun setting Social Security and Medicare, where did that phrase come from?

    Oh, here it is, 1975; 

    In 1975, while Biden was in the upper chamber of Congress, the now president put forward a bill requiring all federal programs to sunset after four years.

    When pushing his bill as a senator, Biden said "it requires every program to be looked at freshly at least once every four years."

    Biden doubled down on his legislation in the '90s, saying on the Senate floor that his bill would affect Social Security.

    "When I argued that we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security, as well," Biden said. "I meant Medicare and Medicaid. I meant veterans’ benefits."

    "I meant every single solitary thing in the federal government," he said. "And I not only tried it once, I tried it twice, I tried it a third time, and I tried it a fourth time."

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WadeMiller_USMC/status/1623317856468303875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1623317856468303875%7Ctwgr%5Ecccdae1a316bb3fca6cadadbfcf3c0450922ddcd%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fbiden-introduced-bill-sunset-all-federal-programs-including-social-security

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    Sun setting Social Security and Medicare, where did that phrase come from?

    Oh, here it is, 1975; 

    In 1975, while Biden was in the upper chamber of Congress, the now president put forward a bill requiring all federal programs to sunset after four years.

    When pushing his bill as a senator, Biden said "it requires every program to be looked at freshly at least once every four years."

    Biden doubled down on his legislation in the '90s, saying on the Senate floor that his bill would affect Social Security.

    "When I argued that we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security, as well," Biden said. "I meant Medicare and Medicaid. I meant veterans’ benefits."

    "I meant every single solitary thing in the federal government," he said. "And I not only tried it once, I tried it twice, I tried it a third time, and I tried it a fourth time."

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WadeMiller_USMC/status/1623317856468303875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1623317856468303875%7Ctwgr%5Ecccdae1a316bb3fca6cadadbfcf3c0450922ddcd%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fbiden-introduced-bill-sunset-all-federal-programs-including-social-security

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 4:43 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: President Biden on the infrastructure law... "To my Republican friends who voted against it but still ask to fund projects in their districts, don't worry. I promised to be the president for all Americans. "We'll fund your projects. And I'll see you at the ground-breaking."  

    Nailed it! joe calls it like it really is

    Pundits on MSM and cable news networks which are NOT pro-fascism (ie. MAGA-trumpism) and various media websites are hailing that SOTU as one of the best!  He's had a few better speeches, sure, but this one ranks up there for certain!

    an_cheers

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: President Biden on the infrastructure law... "To my Republican friends who voted against it but still ask to fund projects in their districts, don't worry. I promised to be the president for all Americans. "We'll fund your projects. And I'll see you at the ground-breaking."  

    Nailed it! joe calls it like it really is

    Pundits on MSM and cable news networks which are NOT pro-fascism (ie. MAGA-trumpism) and various media websites are hailing that SOTU as one of the best!  He's had a few better speeches, sure, but this one ranks up there for certain!

    an_cheers

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 4:57 PM ET #13

    Biden did deliver a good speach.

    When McCarthy was the first to stand and clap that republicans and democrats need to come together and work for solutions I sat in dismay... 

    Romney's snub of santos was clear .

    Maybe Margerie Taylor Green in her drag outfit could be placed out by the mall next year nobody could care less what that but job has to say

    She was just ignorant during the address.

    Imagine no one tore up the speach afterwards....  Republicans and Democrats all Americans he nailed it. This was his best speach in 3 years in my opinion.

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    Biden did deliver a good speach.

    When McCarthy was the first to stand and clap that republicans and democrats need to come together and work for solutions I sat in dismay... 

    Romney's snub of santos was clear .

    Maybe Margerie Taylor Green in her drag outfit could be placed out by the mall next year nobody could care less what that but job has to say

    She was just ignorant during the address.

    Imagine no one tore up the speach afterwards....  Republicans and Democrats all Americans he nailed it. This was his best speach in 3 years in my opinion.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 5:31 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Biden did deliver a good speach. When McCarthy was the first to stand and clap that republicans and democrats need to come together and work for solutions I sat in dismay...  Romney's snub of santos was clear . Maybe Margerie Taylor Green in her drag outfit could be placed out by the mall next year nobody could care less what that but job has to say She was just ignorant during the address. Imagine no one tore up the speach afterwards....  Republicans and Democrats all Americans he nailed it. This was his best speach in 3 years in my opinion.

     

           thumbs_up

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Biden did deliver a good speach. When McCarthy was the first to stand and clap that republicans and democrats need to come together and work for solutions I sat in dismay...  Romney's snub of santos was clear . Maybe Margerie Taylor Green in her drag outfit could be placed out by the mall next year nobody could care less what that but job has to say She was just ignorant during the address. Imagine no one tore up the speach afterwards....  Republicans and Democrats all Americans he nailed it. This was his best speach in 3 years in my opinion.

     

           thumbs_up

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2023 - 5:39 PM ET #15

    Alaska is a blue state.

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    Alaska is a blue state.

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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2023 - 12:30 AM ET #16

    There was some spin in last night's address.

     

    Yes trump did raise the deficit however this was because bipartisan. Legislation to prevent the economic collapse under covid 19 drove the deficit.

    Yes biden created 12.5 million jobs in 24 months, but trump created 24 million jobs in his last 9 months. 

    Republicans and democrats have agreed social security and medicare are not going to cut... However , raises are still on the table. 

    Republicans are asking for freezes in all spending but their own caucus is having serious reservations in freezing defense levels.

    Tax cuts , are not an option and raising income for capital gains and multi billionaire corporations doesn't seem to be an option. We need to find some way where we take in revenue and spend revenue at some kind of debt neutral terms. 

    If we can come to debt neutral then we can lower the debt. So let's see if the republicans democrats can come together in some form of cooperation .

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    There was some spin in last night's address.

     

    Yes trump did raise the deficit however this was because bipartisan. Legislation to prevent the economic collapse under covid 19 drove the deficit.

    Yes biden created 12.5 million jobs in 24 months, but trump created 24 million jobs in his last 9 months. 

    Republicans and democrats have agreed social security and medicare are not going to cut... However , raises are still on the table. 

    Republicans are asking for freezes in all spending but their own caucus is having serious reservations in freezing defense levels.

    Tax cuts , are not an option and raising income for capital gains and multi billionaire corporations doesn't seem to be an option. We need to find some way where we take in revenue and spend revenue at some kind of debt neutral terms. 

    If we can come to debt neutral then we can lower the debt. So let's see if the republicans democrats can come together in some form of cooperation .

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2023 - 3:55 AM ET #17

    Some MAGA person asked if there was anything those of us who are NOT MAGA didn't like about the leader of the trump crime family when he was in office ...... 

    Here's a quick list off the top of my head but I'm sure I missed plenty:

      •  he refered to our fallen service members as "losers" and "suckers"

      • Continuing the war in Afghanistan, costing lives and almost $300 million PER DAY to our budget, then signing a surrender deal with the Taliban leading directly to the deaths of 13 Americans when Biden tried to get everyone out.

    an_light  • inciting a violent insurrection (TREASON!!!)

      • refusing a peaceful transfer of power

    an_light  • the BIG FCKIN LIE! - which clearly widened the political polarity and increased tribalism, now making it near impossible to get anything done in congress

      • selling out our American intel agencies to Putin in Helsinki

      • emboldening bigots and racists through his own bigotry and racism

      • tariffs that crippled some parts of our agriculture and started inflation rolling

     

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    Some MAGA person asked if there was anything those of us who are NOT MAGA didn't like about the leader of the trump crime family when he was in office ...... 

    Here's a quick list off the top of my head but I'm sure I missed plenty:

      •  he refered to our fallen service members as "losers" and "suckers"

      • Continuing the war in Afghanistan, costing lives and almost $300 million PER DAY to our budget, then signing a surrender deal with the Taliban leading directly to the deaths of 13 Americans when Biden tried to get everyone out.

    an_light  • inciting a violent insurrection (TREASON!!!)

      • refusing a peaceful transfer of power

    an_light  • the BIG FCKIN LIE! - which clearly widened the political polarity and increased tribalism, now making it near impossible to get anything done in congress

      • selling out our American intel agencies to Putin in Helsinki

      • emboldening bigots and racists through his own bigotry and racism

      • tariffs that crippled some parts of our agriculture and started inflation rolling

     

     
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    an_light  • failure to manage the covid19 pandemic properly and setting in motion a negative attitude among republican followers leading ultimately to the deaths of over 1 million Americans from a contagious airborne virus

      • lining his own pockets at the expense of taxpayers

      • repeatedly lying to the American public (documented over 30,000 falsehoods)

      •  calling for a boycott of Major League Baseball

      •  nepotism

      •  abusing Twitter for personal vengeance and petty demonization

      •  criminally trying to interfere in election results and conspire to overturn legitimate results

      •  abusing the "pardon" power to save political allies

      •  abusing his authority and pulpit to exact petty revenge on individuals and entities who disagreed with him

      •  demonizing the media (just like Hitler and Stalin did!)

      •  failure to significantly reduce child poverty

      •  refusal to intervene when his mob was actively looking to lynch the vice-president

      •  failure to invoke overdue Infrastructure projects despite monthly promises to do so!

      •  failure to codify abortion law to protect women's rights - which are supported by over 64% of the American public!

      •  allowing babies to be ripped away from their mothers at the border (most of whom have never been reunited because of trump)

      •  promising to reduce our national debt but instead increased it at a rate more than any president in history

      •  paid hush money to a porn star he fcked while married in order to supress a scandal in the weeks prior to the 2016 election

      •  encouraging Russia to interfere in our elections - which they did!

      •  14.7% unemployment at one point; leaving Biden a mess with 6.3% unemployment (which thankfully Joe Biden has got uneployment to 3.4% now!)

      •  22.4 MILLION jobs lost in 2020!!!!  (but thankfully Biden recovered all of them!)

      •  leaving a diasterous economy when he left office and a nation in chaos because of him

      •  illegally removing government documents, then OBSTRUCTION in the effort to recover the files he stole

      •  refusing to address climate change (which he declared was a Chinese hoax)

      •  causing America to be the laughing stock of the world for 4 years

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    an_light  • failure to manage the covid19 pandemic properly and setting in motion a negative attitude among republican followers leading ultimately to the deaths of over 1 million Americans from a contagious airborne virus

      • lining his own pockets at the expense of taxpayers

      • repeatedly lying to the American public (documented over 30,000 falsehoods)

      •  calling for a boycott of Major League Baseball

      •  nepotism

      •  abusing Twitter for personal vengeance and petty demonization

      •  criminally trying to interfere in election results and conspire to overturn legitimate results

      •  abusing the "pardon" power to save political allies

      •  abusing his authority and pulpit to exact petty revenge on individuals and entities who disagreed with him

      •  demonizing the media (just like Hitler and Stalin did!)

      •  failure to significantly reduce child poverty

      •  refusal to intervene when his mob was actively looking to lynch the vice-president

      •  failure to invoke overdue Infrastructure projects despite monthly promises to do so!

      •  failure to codify abortion law to protect women's rights - which are supported by over 64% of the American public!

      •  allowing babies to be ripped away from their mothers at the border (most of whom have never been reunited because of trump)

      •  promising to reduce our national debt but instead increased it at a rate more than any president in history

      •  paid hush money to a porn star he fcked while married in order to supress a scandal in the weeks prior to the 2016 election

      •  encouraging Russia to interfere in our elections - which they did!

      •  14.7% unemployment at one point; leaving Biden a mess with 6.3% unemployment (which thankfully Joe Biden has got uneployment to 3.4% now!)

      •  22.4 MILLION jobs lost in 2020!!!!  (but thankfully Biden recovered all of them!)

      •  leaving a diasterous economy when he left office and a nation in chaos because of him

      •  illegally removing government documents, then OBSTRUCTION in the effort to recover the files he stole

      •  refusing to address climate change (which he declared was a Chinese hoax)

      •  causing America to be the laughing stock of the world for 4 years

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2023 - 6:01 AM ET #19

    the opinions were a lockan_roll_laugh

    funny stuff

     

    Someone should have ripped the speech up, isn't that what adult professionals do?

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    the opinions were a lockan_roll_laugh

    funny stuff

     

    Someone should have ripped the speech up, isn't that what adult professionals do?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2023 - 6:29 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Sun setting Social Security and Medicare, where did that phrase come from? Oh, here it is, 1975;  In 1975, while Biden was in the upper chamber of Congress, the now president put forward a bill requiring all federal programs to sunset after four years. When pushing his bill as a senator, Biden said "it requires every program to be looked at freshly at least once every four years." Biden doubled down on his legislation in the '90s, saying on the Senate floor that his bill would affect Social Security. "When I argued that we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security, as well," Biden said. "I meant Medicare and Medicaid. I meant veterans’ benefits." "I meant every single solitary thing in the federal government," he said. "And I not only tried it once, I tried it twice, I tried it a third time, and I tried it a fourth time." https://mobile.twitter.com/WadeMiller_USMC/status/1623317856468303875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1623317856468303875%7Ctwgr%5Ecccdae1a316bb3fca6cadadbfcf3c0450922ddcd%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fbiden-introduced-bill-sunset-all-federal-programs-including-social-security

     

    UNI peace_5

    Little doubt they had no idea til you posted.

    No doubt you'll be ignored.

    But I was told this is a forum for open, fair discussion and sharing of ideas ....hmmmm

     

    and some fancy TDS on display herean_clap

    It's insane, JoeXi spoke many lies and delusions  last night and it's still Trump, Trump, Trump

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Sun setting Social Security and Medicare, where did that phrase come from? Oh, here it is, 1975;  In 1975, while Biden was in the upper chamber of Congress, the now president put forward a bill requiring all federal programs to sunset after four years. When pushing his bill as a senator, Biden said "it requires every program to be looked at freshly at least once every four years." Biden doubled down on his legislation in the '90s, saying on the Senate floor that his bill would affect Social Security. "When I argued that we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security, as well," Biden said. "I meant Medicare and Medicaid. I meant veterans’ benefits." "I meant every single solitary thing in the federal government," he said. "And I not only tried it once, I tried it twice, I tried it a third time, and I tried it a fourth time." https://mobile.twitter.com/WadeMiller_USMC/status/1623317856468303875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1623317856468303875%7Ctwgr%5Ecccdae1a316bb3fca6cadadbfcf3c0450922ddcd%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fbiden-introduced-bill-sunset-all-federal-programs-including-social-security

     

    UNI peace_5

    Little doubt they had no idea til you posted.

    No doubt you'll be ignored.

    But I was told this is a forum for open, fair discussion and sharing of ideas ....hmmmm

     

    and some fancy TDS on display herean_clap

    It's insane, JoeXi spoke many lies and delusions  last night and it's still Trump, Trump, Trump

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2023 - 6:52 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    There was some spin in last night's address.   Yes trump did raise the deficit however this was because bipartisan. Legislation to prevent the economic collapse under covid 19 drove the deficit. Yes biden created 12.5 million jobs in 24 months, but trump created 24 million jobs in his last 9 months.  Republicans and democrats have agreed social security and medicare are not going to cut... However , raises are still on the table.  Republicans are asking for freezes in all spending but their own caucus is having serious reservations in freezing defense levels. Tax cuts , are not an option and raising income for capital gains and multi billionaire corporations doesn't seem to be an option. We need to find some way where we take in revenue and spend revenue at some kind of debt neutral terms.  If we can come to debt neutral then we can lower the debt. So let's see if the republicans democrats can come together in some form of cooperation .

    Your last sentence is my entire problem with our government.

    Integrity is out the window. When they all vote party lines is the proof.

    We are no longer the Red, White and Blue and have become the Red vs Blue.

    Term limits should be forced on them and some of the laws they have made over the years to protect themselves and their benefits and their raises

    should be removed. They work for themselves, then somewhere down the line they consider us.

    They need to be shown that the U.S. is us....not them

    They have you hating me, by design

    they know that as long as Red is fighting Blue, that we;re not able to address them

    They are a very small number of people, living cushy lives their way and telling us to enjoy the mess they make in our own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    There was some spin in last night's address.   Yes trump did raise the deficit however this was because bipartisan. Legislation to prevent the economic collapse under covid 19 drove the deficit. Yes biden created 12.5 million jobs in 24 months, but trump created 24 million jobs in his last 9 months.  Republicans and democrats have agreed social security and medicare are not going to cut... However , raises are still on the table.  Republicans are asking for freezes in all spending but their own caucus is having serious reservations in freezing defense levels. Tax cuts , are not an option and raising income for capital gains and multi billionaire corporations doesn't seem to be an option. We need to find some way where we take in revenue and spend revenue at some kind of debt neutral terms.  If we can come to debt neutral then we can lower the debt. So let's see if the republicans democrats can come together in some form of cooperation .

    Your last sentence is my entire problem with our government.

    Integrity is out the window. When they all vote party lines is the proof.

    We are no longer the Red, White and Blue and have become the Red vs Blue.

    Term limits should be forced on them and some of the laws they have made over the years to protect themselves and their benefits and their raises

    should be removed. They work for themselves, then somewhere down the line they consider us.

    They need to be shown that the U.S. is us....not them

    They have you hating me, by design

    they know that as long as Red is fighting Blue, that we;re not able to address them

    They are a very small number of people, living cushy lives their way and telling us to enjoy the mess they make in our own way.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2023 - 7:05 AM ET #22

    Is it possible to make a state sponsored amendment to the constitution that forces them to have a balanced budget?

    That the congress must forced not to spend beyond their means on purpose.

    Yes things can happen that is in forseen economy adjustable interest rates ect... 

    However can we least expect these law makers to pay the bills without maxing out every credit card available and apply for more credit instead of here what you make then this is what you can spend...

    You know behave like responsible adults...

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    Is it possible to make a state sponsored amendment to the constitution that forces them to have a balanced budget?

    That the congress must forced not to spend beyond their means on purpose.

    Yes things can happen that is in forseen economy adjustable interest rates ect... 

    However can we least expect these law makers to pay the bills without maxing out every credit card available and apply for more credit instead of here what you make then this is what you can spend...

    You know behave like responsible adults...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Is it possible to make a state sponsored amendment to the constitution that forces them to have a balanced budget? That the congress must forced not to spend beyond their means on purpose. ..  However can we least expect these law makers to pay the bills without maxing out every credit card available and apply for more credit instead of here what you make then this is what you can spend... You know behave like responsible adults...

    In many countries, increasing debt limit is automatic.  Normally, balanced budgets are only required for municipal and state governments but not federal government.  Increasing debt limit allows federal government to pay bills already approved by congress.  Not for new spending.   If House republicans want to cut spending, they should introduce new legislation.  Instead they prefer to resort to extortion which needlessly threatens US economy.  So refusing to raise debt limit is irresponsible. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Is it possible to make a state sponsored amendment to the constitution that forces them to have a balanced budget? That the congress must forced not to spend beyond their means on purpose. ..  However can we least expect these law makers to pay the bills without maxing out every credit card available and apply for more credit instead of here what you make then this is what you can spend... You know behave like responsible adults...

    In many countries, increasing debt limit is automatic.  Normally, balanced budgets are only required for municipal and state governments but not federal government.  Increasing debt limit allows federal government to pay bills already approved by congress.  Not for new spending.   If House republicans want to cut spending, they should introduce new legislation.  Instead they prefer to resort to extortion which needlessly threatens US economy.  So refusing to raise debt limit is irresponsible. 

     
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    @ColonelKlink

     At this point, I don't even think they consider us somewhere down the line. They just never consider us.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    @ColonelKlink

     At this point, I don't even think they consider us somewhere down the line. They just never consider us.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Some MAGA person asked if there was anything those of us who are NOT MAGA didn't like about the leader of the trump crime family when he was in office ......  Here's a quick list off the top of my head but I'm sure I missed plenty:  

    •  he refered to our fallen service members as "losers" and "suckers"

      • Continuing the war in Afghanistan, costing lives and almost $300 million PER DAY to our budget, then signing a surrender deal with the Taliban leading directly to the deaths of 13 Americans when Biden tried to get everyone out.

      • inciting a violent insurrection (TREASON!!!)

      • refusing a peaceful transfer of power

      • the BIG FCKIN LIE! - which clearly widened the political polarity and increased tribalism, now making it near impossible to get anything done in congress

      • selling out our American intel agencies to Putin in Helsinki

      • emboldening bigots and racists through his own bigotry and racism

      • tariffs that crippled some parts of our agriculture and started inflation rolling

    @fubah2  peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Some MAGA person asked if there was anything those of us who are NOT MAGA didn't like about the leader of the trump crime family when he was in office ......  Here's a quick list off the top of my head but I'm sure I missed plenty:  

    •  he refered to our fallen service members as "losers" and "suckers"

      • Continuing the war in Afghanistan, costing lives and almost $300 million PER DAY to our budget, then signing a surrender deal with the Taliban leading directly to the deaths of 13 Americans when Biden tried to get everyone out.

      • inciting a violent insurrection (TREASON!!!)

      • refusing a peaceful transfer of power

      • the BIG FCKIN LIE! - which clearly widened the political polarity and increased tribalism, now making it near impossible to get anything done in congress

      • selling out our American intel agencies to Putin in Helsinki

      • emboldening bigots and racists through his own bigotry and racism

      • tariffs that crippled some parts of our agriculture and started inflation rolling

    @fubah2  peace_5

     

     

     

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