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    fubah2
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2020 - 6:00 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    A few extra bucks won't mean anything? A few extra bucks to a guy making $12 is a 25% wage increase.

    The facts are the wage gap, the wealth gap, has widened to more than that of the days of the robber barons.

    And we have a government that advocates tax cuts and bail outs for corporations, under the guise of trickle down economics, but is against paying Americans a fair wage.

    Trickle down economics doesn't work. It doesn't stimulate the economy.

    It leads to (stock) buy backs and execs and share holders reaping the benefits. The money accumulates and sits.

    Wage bumps for the lower classes directly lead to economic growth.

    The notion that raising minimum wages will wipe out small businesses is a myth.

    Corporate lobbyist sell a narrative that raising minimum wages will ruin the economy, the politicians they control run with it, and the sheep eat it up.

    VERY well stated, Mr. Stu! an_clap Could not possibly agree with you more on those points!

    Additionally, it's been reported often the past 3 years that about 40% of our citizens DON'T have access to $400 in an emergency, and I believe that. (Obviously that percentage is far worse now and will be for many more months, perhaps YEARS, to come)  Too many US citizens live paycheque-to-paycheque...yes, many from their own fault, though certainly not their preferred choice - and I am not about to "blame the victims," although I am certain many of the arrogant "haves" will.

    As you correctly alluded to, trump's infamous tax cut FAILED...because it backfired when most corporations chose to use their "trump windfall" for stock buybacks - NOT the hoped for moves to spur investments in new products or innovations or research; and NOT for the hoped for INCREASE in wages to workers - which as STu correctly points out - any non-partisan economist will agree is what spurs growth!  We get money into the hands of consumers and THEY SPEND IT...which is a GOOD THING for our economy!...It's often referred to as "discretionary spending"....as a result our local businesses thrive!...so THEY make money too!....and THEY spend!...all of which leads to productive growth. Everybody happy!! But it starts with getting money (for discretionary spending) into the hands of 325 MILLION "spenders" - not the 6 million already wealthy.

      OR, the other alternative (called the trump-Republican "trickle-down" plan) is to give generously to the top 1% and *HOPE* the greedy wealthy elite might share some of that windfall wealth by creating a bunch of new $8.25/hr minimum wage jobs for the multitudes, and thereby lowering the all-important UNemployment stat - by which we are told by conservatives is "supposedly" the key measuring stick of government performance.

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    A few extra bucks won't mean anything? A few extra bucks to a guy making $12 is a 25% wage increase.

    The facts are the wage gap, the wealth gap, has widened to more than that of the days of the robber barons.

    And we have a government that advocates tax cuts and bail outs for corporations, under the guise of trickle down economics, but is against paying Americans a fair wage.

    Trickle down economics doesn't work. It doesn't stimulate the economy.

    It leads to (stock) buy backs and execs and share holders reaping the benefits. The money accumulates and sits.

    Wage bumps for the lower classes directly lead to economic growth.

    The notion that raising minimum wages will wipe out small businesses is a myth.

    Corporate lobbyist sell a narrative that raising minimum wages will ruin the economy, the politicians they control run with it, and the sheep eat it up.

    VERY well stated, Mr. Stu! an_clap Could not possibly agree with you more on those points!

    Additionally, it's been reported often the past 3 years that about 40% of our citizens DON'T have access to $400 in an emergency, and I believe that. (Obviously that percentage is far worse now and will be for many more months, perhaps YEARS, to come)  Too many US citizens live paycheque-to-paycheque...yes, many from their own fault, though certainly not their preferred choice - and I am not about to "blame the victims," although I am certain many of the arrogant "haves" will.

    As you correctly alluded to, trump's infamous tax cut FAILED...because it backfired when most corporations chose to use their "trump windfall" for stock buybacks - NOT the hoped for moves to spur investments in new products or innovations or research; and NOT for the hoped for INCREASE in wages to workers - which as STu correctly points out - any non-partisan economist will agree is what spurs growth!  We get money into the hands of consumers and THEY SPEND IT...which is a GOOD THING for our economy!...It's often referred to as "discretionary spending"....as a result our local businesses thrive!...so THEY make money too!....and THEY spend!...all of which leads to productive growth. Everybody happy!! But it starts with getting money (for discretionary spending) into the hands of 325 MILLION "spenders" - not the 6 million already wealthy.

      OR, the other alternative (called the trump-Republican "trickle-down" plan) is to give generously to the top 1% and *HOPE* the greedy wealthy elite might share some of that windfall wealth by creating a bunch of new $8.25/hr minimum wage jobs for the multitudes, and thereby lowering the all-important UNemployment stat - by which we are told by conservatives is "supposedly" the key measuring stick of government performance.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2020 - 7:58 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    But it starts with getting money (for discretionary spending) into the hands of 325 MILLION "spenders" - not the 6 million already wealthy. 

    goodpost but i just cut to one key part

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    But it starts with getting money (for discretionary spending) into the hands of 325 MILLION "spenders" - not the 6 million already wealthy. 

    goodpost but i just cut to one key part

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2020 - 9:55 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: But it starts with getting money (for discretionary spending) into the hands of 325 MILLION "spenders" - not the 6 million already wealthy. 

    but i just cut to one key part

     

    That is a sure-fire way to stimulate an economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: But it starts with getting money (for discretionary spending) into the hands of 325 MILLION "spenders" - not the 6 million already wealthy. 

    but i just cut to one key part

     

    That is a sure-fire way to stimulate an economy.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2020 - 10:51 PM ET #54

    The stradegy is to control enough shares gain a dividend and five to rhe American citizen governments interest in companies. Trump or Biden this will be the play after shovelling 5 trillion of tax payers credit into the market.

    We are socialists. Our government owns our companies... Trump did it but Biden will reap the profits.

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    The stradegy is to control enough shares gain a dividend and five to rhe American citizen governments interest in companies. Trump or Biden this will be the play after shovelling 5 trillion of tax payers credit into the market.

    We are socialists. Our government owns our companies... Trump did it but Biden will reap the profits.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2020 - 11:06 PM ET #55

    This new aquited rescource will offset the deficit spending created since Reagan... The problem is that thia is a temp feature based on exec action and is as permanent as the president... A temp who won a popularity contest.

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    This new aquited rescource will offset the deficit spending created since Reagan... The problem is that thia is a temp feature based on exec action and is as permanent as the president... A temp who won a popularity contest.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2020 - 5:33 PM ET #56

    In the latest University of Texas,Tyler Poll (by Dallas Morning News)
    Biden is edging Trump 48% to 43%, despite Republican bias!!!
    If Biden can win Texas not only is Trump doomed for the election,
    but Texas will have turned BLUE and will likely remain blue
    as demographic changes in that state were
    already going to make the state blue anyway.


    Texas Likely Voter Sample: June 29–July 7, 2020
    = 1677 TEXAS adults (LikelyVoters) MOE: +/-2.4%

    38.5% Democrat (646 respondents)
    42.5% Republican (715 respondents)
    <--- MORE Republicans!!!
    19% neither (326 respondents)

    *NOTE:
    these TEXAS aggregate results have a bias, toward Republicans!

    Source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/do...ly_12_2020.pdf


    Q: If the general election for president were held today,
    for whom would you vote?

    43% ... donald "adolf" trump
    48% ...Joe Biden (Remember, in this UTT poll there are MORE Republican respondents!)

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    In the latest University of Texas,Tyler Poll (by Dallas Morning News)
    Biden is edging Trump 48% to 43%, despite Republican bias!!!
    If Biden can win Texas not only is Trump doomed for the election,
    but Texas will have turned BLUE and will likely remain blue
    as demographic changes in that state were
    already going to make the state blue anyway.


    Texas Likely Voter Sample: June 29–July 7, 2020
    = 1677 TEXAS adults (LikelyVoters) MOE: +/-2.4%

    38.5% Democrat (646 respondents)
    42.5% Republican (715 respondents)
    <--- MORE Republicans!!!
    19% neither (326 respondents)

    *NOTE:
    these TEXAS aggregate results have a bias, toward Republicans!

    Source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/do...ly_12_2020.pdf


    Q: If the general election for president were held today,
    for whom would you vote?

    43% ... donald "adolf" trump
    48% ...Joe Biden (Remember, in this UTT poll there are MORE Republican respondents!)

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2020 - 9:27 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    In the latest University of Texas,Tyler Poll (by Dallas Morning News) Biden is edging Trump 48% to 43%, despite Republican bias!!! If Biden can win Texas not only is Trump doomed for the election, but Texas will have turned BLUE and will likely remain blue as demographic changes in that state were already going to make the state blue anyway. Texas Likely Voter Sample: June 29–July 7, 2020 = 1677 TEXAS adults (LikelyVoters) MOE: +/-2.4% 38.5% Democrat (646 respondents) 42.5% Republican (715 respondents) <--- MORE Republicans!!! 19% neither (326 respondents) *NOTE: these TEXAS aggregate results have a bias, toward Republicans! Source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/do...ly_12_2020.pdf Q: If the general election for president were held today, for whom would you vote? 43% ... donald "adolf" trump 48% ...Joe Biden (Remember, in this UTT poll there are MORE Republican respondents!)
    thats shocking coming from texas

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    In the latest University of Texas,Tyler Poll (by Dallas Morning News) Biden is edging Trump 48% to 43%, despite Republican bias!!! If Biden can win Texas not only is Trump doomed for the election, but Texas will have turned BLUE and will likely remain blue as demographic changes in that state were already going to make the state blue anyway. Texas Likely Voter Sample: June 29–July 7, 2020 = 1677 TEXAS adults (LikelyVoters) MOE: +/-2.4% 38.5% Democrat (646 respondents) 42.5% Republican (715 respondents) <--- MORE Republicans!!! 19% neither (326 respondents) *NOTE: these TEXAS aggregate results have a bias, toward Republicans! Source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/do...ly_12_2020.pdf Q: If the general election for president were held today, for whom would you vote? 43% ... donald "adolf" trump 48% ...Joe Biden (Remember, in this UTT poll there are MORE Republican respondents!)
    thats shocking coming from texas

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2020 - 6:50 AM ET #58

    Biden still up 9 points nationally on the dumster-fire, but a solid +5.1 in swing states, unchanged in 2 months

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    Biden still up 9 points nationally on the dumster-fire, but a solid +5.1 in swing states, unchanged in 2 months

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2020 - 9:19 PM ET #59

     

    joe biden 2020

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    joe biden 2020

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2020 - 3:17 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Biden still up 9 points nationally on the dumster-fire,

    but a solid +5.1 in swing states, unchanged in 2 months

    Biden now up +5.3 in Battleground states (combined mean avg)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Biden still up 9 points nationally on the dumster-fire,

    but a solid +5.1 in swing states, unchanged in 2 months

    Biden now up +5.3 in Battleground states (combined mean avg)

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2020 - 8:59 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Biden still up 9 points nationally on the dumster-fire, but a solid +5.1 in swing states, unchanged in 2 months Biden now up +5.3 in Battleground states (combined mean avg)

     

    update:  Biden now up again to +5.5 in swing states!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Biden still up 9 points nationally on the dumster-fire, but a solid +5.1 in swing states, unchanged in 2 months Biden now up +5.3 in Battleground states (combined mean avg)

     

    update:  Biden now up again to +5.5 in swing states!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2020 - 9:08 PM ET #62

    Fox News anchor Chris Wallace on Sunday invited 2020 presumptive Democrat nominee Joe Biden to sit down for an interview.

    Biden’s camp said the former VP was not available.

    Very strange way of Campaigning...Biden, has been hiding in his Delaware basement virtually the entire 2020 election season.Last week Biden refused to answer any questions from reporters during a campaign event in Newcastle, Delaware.

    “Thank you for listening. I look forward to having your questions at another time, but I’m off to another event,” Biden said as he hurried off stage ..Reporters yelled questions at Biden, however, he ignored them and walked away.

    Last week Biden refused to answer any questions from reporters during a campaign event in Newcastle, Delaware. Finished his speech and closed up his notebook and ran off the stage..

    Joe will have to come out in the open eventually and that's when he will be exposed for what he isn't and the DNC will have to do something with him..

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    Fox News anchor Chris Wallace on Sunday invited 2020 presumptive Democrat nominee Joe Biden to sit down for an interview.

    Biden’s camp said the former VP was not available.

    Very strange way of Campaigning...Biden, has been hiding in his Delaware basement virtually the entire 2020 election season.Last week Biden refused to answer any questions from reporters during a campaign event in Newcastle, Delaware.

    “Thank you for listening. I look forward to having your questions at another time, but I’m off to another event,” Biden said as he hurried off stage ..Reporters yelled questions at Biden, however, he ignored them and walked away.

    Last week Biden refused to answer any questions from reporters during a campaign event in Newcastle, Delaware. Finished his speech and closed up his notebook and ran off the stage..

    Joe will have to come out in the open eventually and that's when he will be exposed for what he isn't and the DNC will have to do something with him..

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2020 - 9:20 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      update:  Biden now up again to +5.5 in swing states!

     

    A recent Fox News poll  oversampled Democrats by four points, and in the “who would you vote for today,” Biden won by an eight-point margin. However the poll was split evenly on whether Trump would be reelected.confused

    This discrepancy between who voters favor and who they think will win suggests there are some secret Trump voters out there.

    This is like asking a football fan who they want to win the Super Bowl versus who they think will win. The latter question provides the more accurate prediction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      update:  Biden now up again to +5.5 in swing states!

     

    A recent Fox News poll  oversampled Democrats by four points, and in the “who would you vote for today,” Biden won by an eight-point margin. However the poll was split evenly on whether Trump would be reelected.confused

    This discrepancy between who voters favor and who they think will win suggests there are some secret Trump voters out there.

    This is like asking a football fan who they want to win the Super Bowl versus who they think will win. The latter question provides the more accurate prediction.

     
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    This discrepancy between who voters favor and who they think will win suggests there are some secret Trump voters out there.

    Of course there are, Comrade.

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    This discrepancy between who voters favor and who they think will win suggests there are some secret Trump voters out there.

    Of course there are, Comrade.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2020 - 9:30 PM ET #65

    The Silent Majority   an_dance

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    The Silent Majority   an_dance

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2020 - 12:27 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Biden still up 9 points nationally on the dumster-fire, but a solid +5.1 in swing states, unchanged in 2 months Biden now up +5.3 in Battleground states (combined mean avg)   update:  Biden now up again to +5.5 in swing states!

     

    update:  now Biden +5.7 in battleground states

    and still well outside the statistical MOE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Biden still up 9 points nationally on the dumster-fire, but a solid +5.1 in swing states, unchanged in 2 months Biden now up +5.3 in Battleground states (combined mean avg)   update:  Biden now up again to +5.5 in swing states!

     

    update:  now Biden +5.7 in battleground states

    and still well outside the statistical MOE!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      update:  now Biden +5.7 in battleground states and still well outside the statistical MOE!!
    really the most important number to watch

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      update:  now Biden +5.7 in battleground states and still well outside the statistical MOE!!
    really the most important number to watch

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   update:  now Biden +5.7 in battleground states and still well outside the statistical MOE!! really the most important number to watch
    Agreed!  National polls are interesting for the information they provide about how AMerica is thinking on various current event issues. But for how people are viewing the candidates toward voting - usually just ONE of about 20+ questions in most polls - that specific issue is more relevant to the swing states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   update:  now Biden +5.7 in battleground states and still well outside the statistical MOE!! really the most important number to watch
    Agreed!  National polls are interesting for the information they provide about how AMerica is thinking on various current event issues. But for how people are viewing the candidates toward voting - usually just ONE of about 20+ questions in most polls - that specific issue is more relevant to the swing states.

     
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    Mark Twain is credited with introducing into the American vernacular the phrase, “Lies, damned lies and statistics.” One of the pervasive damned lies people take for granted is the results of political polls, especially in the Trump era.

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    Mark Twain is credited with introducing into the American vernacular the phrase, “Lies, damned lies and statistics.” One of the pervasive damned lies people take for granted is the results of political polls, especially in the Trump era.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   update:  now Biden +5.7 in battleground states and still well outside the statistical MOE!! really the most important number to watchAgreed!  National polls are interesting for the information they provide about how AMerica is thinking on various current event issues. But for how people are viewing the candidates toward voting - usually just ONE of about 20+ questions in most polls - that specific issue is more relevant to the swing states.
    Additionally, the YouGov polls often have well over 100 questions on various current events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   update:  now Biden +5.7 in battleground states and still well outside the statistical MOE!! really the most important number to watchAgreed!  National polls are interesting for the information they provide about how AMerica is thinking on various current event issues. But for how people are viewing the candidates toward voting - usually just ONE of about 20+ questions in most polls - that specific issue is more relevant to the swing states.
    Additionally, the YouGov polls often have well over 100 questions on various current events.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2020 - 8:15 PM ET #71

    prediction: biden wins popular vote by 4 million

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    prediction: biden wins popular vote by 4 million

     
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    .

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    .

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2020 - 4:07 AM ET #73

    Even Australia knows that Biden is a joke  !! an_roll_laugh

     

    https://youtu.be/yAHoul4IYMY

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    Even Australia knows that Biden is a joke  !! an_roll_laugh

     

    https://youtu.be/yAHoul4IYMY

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2020 - 8:05 PM ET #74

    biden wins vote by 4.1 million

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    biden wins vote by 4.1 million

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Nature - I've said several times I like Joe biden and think he is a gentleman. BUT, the man couldn't run a sno-ball stand. There's              no way you can think he is capable! I just don't get the love for this man other than the disdain for Trump. Does that validate              a vote for Joe? At least give us someone to choose from, right?
    he doesn't seem to be doing a terrible job. We are still not an a declared international conflict. 

    Cities across America isn't ablaze in lawless anarchy. 

    The sky isn't falling... 

    We are accelerated the vaccine doses given by 500 percent since he took office. 

    He stopped keystones day 1.

    He is working with congress to craft legislation on a bi partisan support to craft a way forward to stop the viruses consumption of humans in America. 

    His cabinet is a group of trained professionals in their field.

    Science programs are actually being by scientist. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Nature - I've said several times I like Joe biden and think he is a gentleman. BUT, the man couldn't run a sno-ball stand. There's              no way you can think he is capable! I just don't get the love for this man other than the disdain for Trump. Does that validate              a vote for Joe? At least give us someone to choose from, right?
    he doesn't seem to be doing a terrible job. We are still not an a declared international conflict. 

    Cities across America isn't ablaze in lawless anarchy. 

    The sky isn't falling... 

    We are accelerated the vaccine doses given by 500 percent since he took office. 

    He stopped keystones day 1.

    He is working with congress to craft legislation on a bi partisan support to craft a way forward to stop the viruses consumption of humans in America. 

    His cabinet is a group of trained professionals in their field.

    Science programs are actually being by scientist. 

     

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