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    black teen who murdered Chris Lane posted racist tweets...

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    AStefani
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 11:34 AM ET #1

    apparently he wasn't too fond of white people.  But don't expect this to be brought up or addressed by the mainstream media

    https://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    apparently he wasn't too fond of white people.  But don't expect this to be brought up or addressed by the mainstream media

    https://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 12:02 PM ET #2

     Tonight on MSNBC...


    Did Sarah Palin, GW Bush, Rush Limbaugh, FOX News and Halliburton hack James Edwards Twitter account?

    Our crack team will check into allegations that this poor innocent child's Twitter account was hacked.

    Tune in at 9 pm when Rachel Maddow will give you the latest breaking news 


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     Tonight on MSNBC...


    Did Sarah Palin, GW Bush, Rush Limbaugh, FOX News and Halliburton hack James Edwards Twitter account?

    Our crack team will check into allegations that this poor innocent child's Twitter account was hacked.

    Tune in at 9 pm when Rachel Maddow will give you the latest breaking news 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 12:05 PM ET #3

    jessie jackson finally spoke on the matter, but the white house was not familiar with the case and they don't want to get ahead of the legal process
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    jessie jackson finally spoke on the matter, but the white house was not familiar with the case and they don't want to get ahead of the legal process
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 1:28 PM ET #4

    Jackson: "The incident is frowned upon."

    That is absolutely disgusting.  I frown upon my dog when he urinates on my carpet.  What a joke. 

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    Jackson: "The incident is frowned upon."

    That is absolutely disgusting.  I frown upon my dog when he urinates on my carpet.  What a joke. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 1:34 PM ET #5

    Latest: "Jackson, Sharpton and attorney Benjamin Crump are set to protest on the steps of the police station in Oklahoma where the arrest was made.  The race baiters are set to argue that the chief of police is racist, and that Chris Lane was racially profiling the three young children (insert pictures from 2007) while they were merely out trying to buy bubble gum.  Fearing this 'creepy behind guy,' the poor innocent three CHILDREN (emphasis this part...insert more pictures from 2005) had no choice but to defend themselves."

    I can see it now. 

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    Latest: "Jackson, Sharpton and attorney Benjamin Crump are set to protest on the steps of the police station in Oklahoma where the arrest was made.  The race baiters are set to argue that the chief of police is racist, and that Chris Lane was racially profiling the three young children (insert pictures from 2007) while they were merely out trying to buy bubble gum.  Fearing this 'creepy behind guy,' the poor innocent three CHILDREN (emphasis this part...insert more pictures from 2005) had no choice but to defend themselves."

    I can see it now. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 1:42 PM ET #6

    Can Australians be "creepy azz crackas"?
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    Can Australians be "creepy azz crackas"?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 2:19 PM ET #7

    Another white man shot by young black male, two other blacks charged.

    https://downtown.wmctv.com/news/news/185832-three-suspects-charged-deadly-shooting-south-main

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    Another white man shot by young black male, two other blacks charged.

    https://downtown.wmctv.com/news/news/185832-three-suspects-charged-deadly-shooting-south-main

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 2:24 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Another white man shot by young black male, two other blacks charged.

    https://downtown.wmctv.com/news/news/185832-three-suspects-charged-deadly-shooting-south-main



    https://www.hark.com/clips/swxzmbndkj-martin-luther-king-boulevard
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Another white man shot by young black male, two other blacks charged.

    https://downtown.wmctv.com/news/news/185832-three-suspects-charged-deadly-shooting-south-main



    https://www.hark.com/clips/swxzmbndkj-martin-luther-king-boulevard
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 2:48 PM ET #9

    Obviously this isn't racism.

    the definition of racism is being against Obamacare

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    Obviously this isn't racism.

    the definition of racism is being against Obamacare

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:07 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    Obviously this isn't racism.

    the definition of racism is being against Obamacare



    i see what you're doing there but my question is, all i hear about from the rightwingers is obamacare nonstop, there are threats to shuit down the government, not pay our bills, the usual foxnews buzzwords about freedom, socialism, etc,  why is obamacare the worst thing facing humanity right now? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    Obviously this isn't racism.

    the definition of racism is being against Obamacare



    i see what you're doing there but my question is, all i hear about from the rightwingers is obamacare nonstop, there are threats to shuit down the government, not pay our bills, the usual foxnews buzzwords about freedom, socialism, etc,  why is obamacare the worst thing facing humanity right now? 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:35 PM ET #11

    Obamacare is the #1 thing that's holding back the economy now...
    And when the US economy is going 2ell, the world economy usually follows
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    Obamacare is the #1 thing that's holding back the economy now...
    And when the US economy is going 2ell, the world economy usually follows
     
    ClubDirt
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:38 PM ET #12

    Obamacare is the #1 thing that's holding back the economy now...

    what is that based on?
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    Obamacare is the #1 thing that's holding back the economy now...

    what is that based on?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:40 PM ET #13

     “if you like your plan, you can keep it.”

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     “if you like your plan, you can keep it.”

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:42 PM ET #14

    My blue cross blue shield raised about 30%,

    I dropped it,

    then I lost my job due to a 27% pay cut to comply with upcoming Obamacare,

    Now that I am on Tricare, I am going to see anywhere from 40% to 60% raise in premiums. 

     

    Soooooo,  I might be the wrong person to ask for an objective response,

    Suffice it to say that it has already cost me plenty, and the rest of America is about to get a taste. 

    Olive garden and other similar resturants have cut hours back to comply,  UPS cut spouse coverage.

    This is the tip of the iceberg. 

    This law was meant to break healthcare so deeply that we would be forced on a single payer system.  It has been the idea all along. 

     

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    My blue cross blue shield raised about 30%,

    I dropped it,

    then I lost my job due to a 27% pay cut to comply with upcoming Obamacare,

    Now that I am on Tricare, I am going to see anywhere from 40% to 60% raise in premiums. 

     

    Soooooo,  I might be the wrong person to ask for an objective response,

    Suffice it to say that it has already cost me plenty, and the rest of America is about to get a taste. 

    Olive garden and other similar resturants have cut hours back to comply,  UPS cut spouse coverage.

    This is the tip of the iceberg. 

    This law was meant to break healthcare so deeply that we would be forced on a single payer system.  It has been the idea all along. 

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:52 PM ET #15

    "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"...
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    "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:53 PM ET #16

    ok, i'm sure it's bad for some people (and good for some people).  i just don't understand why it's the worst thing since we heard the sun might burn out.  health insurance goes up every year.  medical costs go up every year and have been too high for too long.  we get hit with various taxes every year, the banks and other on wall street killed the financial system, raided pensions and ruined many people, the government lies constantly, watches our emails and internet, they kill off our soldiers almost by the day, we spend way too much money fighting other battles just so our bloated defense companies can richer, kids are starving, without basic health care, kids getting shot and killed all of the time, our prison system is a huge waste of money and ruins lives daily.

    i could go on and on.  none of that is a big deal but if you listen to the republicans, obamacare is the worst thing ever.  so i think there is certainly some racism involved, i think there is a lot of obama hatred irrationality involved, i think there is a lot of foxnews disease involved. 

    and, i also think there are a lot of well meaning people who correctly see this law as a bunch of garbage but i also think there is a disconnect between the hatred and level of attention it gets at the exclusion of almost everything else these days, and just how bad uit is, or will be compared to so many other things that we know are really fucked up and will continue to be. 
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    ok, i'm sure it's bad for some people (and good for some people).  i just don't understand why it's the worst thing since we heard the sun might burn out.  health insurance goes up every year.  medical costs go up every year and have been too high for too long.  we get hit with various taxes every year, the banks and other on wall street killed the financial system, raided pensions and ruined many people, the government lies constantly, watches our emails and internet, they kill off our soldiers almost by the day, we spend way too much money fighting other battles just so our bloated defense companies can richer, kids are starving, without basic health care, kids getting shot and killed all of the time, our prison system is a huge waste of money and ruins lives daily.

    i could go on and on.  none of that is a big deal but if you listen to the republicans, obamacare is the worst thing ever.  so i think there is certainly some racism involved, i think there is a lot of obama hatred irrationality involved, i think there is a lot of foxnews disease involved. 

    and, i also think there are a lot of well meaning people who correctly see this law as a bunch of garbage but i also think there is a disconnect between the hatred and level of attention it gets at the exclusion of almost everything else these days, and just how bad uit is, or will be compared to so many other things that we know are really fucked up and will continue to be. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 3:57 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    i see what you're doing there but my question is, all i hear about from the rightwingers is obamacare nonstop, there are threats to shuit down the government, not pay our bills, the usual foxnews buzzwords about freedom, socialism, etc,  why is obamacare the worst thing facing humanity right now? 


    To be fair, the Republicans are not threatening to shut down the govt. They are willing to pass a continuing resolution that pays for everything just as before, except Obamacare. It would then be up to the Senate to either pass the continuing resolution, sans Obamacare, or risk a government shutdown.

    I personally think that the Republicans will back down and pass a contunuing resolution that covers everything. I'd like to see it go to committee so they can compromise. A delay in the individual mandate of 1 year sems fair. If it's good enough for businesses it should be good enough for all of us right? Besides that, the exchanges are not ready and won't be on time. The Obama administration has missed almost 50% of the deadlines. If it isn't ready, why rush it? Just delay a year and iron out some of these issues.

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    i see what you're doing there but my question is, all i hear about from the rightwingers is obamacare nonstop, there are threats to shuit down the government, not pay our bills, the usual foxnews buzzwords about freedom, socialism, etc,  why is obamacare the worst thing facing humanity right now? 


    To be fair, the Republicans are not threatening to shut down the govt. They are willing to pass a continuing resolution that pays for everything just as before, except Obamacare. It would then be up to the Senate to either pass the continuing resolution, sans Obamacare, or risk a government shutdown.

    I personally think that the Republicans will back down and pass a contunuing resolution that covers everything. I'd like to see it go to committee so they can compromise. A delay in the individual mandate of 1 year sems fair. If it's good enough for businesses it should be good enough for all of us right? Besides that, the exchanges are not ready and won't be on time. The Obama administration has missed almost 50% of the deadlines. If it isn't ready, why rush it? Just delay a year and iron out some of these issues.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 4:10 PM ET #18

    The usual Obamacare bashing..

    Where are the proposals from you who are doing the heckling?

    No problem if you dislike something but this day in and day out finger pointing is such a snoozer.

    So outside the blind generalities can someone come up with a better solution that actually addresses the issue? Or is it better to hide behind a rock and act as if HC inflation would go away if you ignore it?
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    The usual Obamacare bashing..

    Where are the proposals from you who are doing the heckling?

    No problem if you dislike something but this day in and day out finger pointing is such a snoozer.

    So outside the blind generalities can someone come up with a better solution that actually addresses the issue? Or is it better to hide behind a rock and act as if HC inflation would go away if you ignore it?
     
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    dan, that sounds that a roundabout way to threaten to shut down the government to me.  everyone knows the democrats won't defund obamacare so that appears to be a veiled, although terribly so, attempt to try and put the blame on the other side.  typical partisan rhetoric. 
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    dan, that sounds that a roundabout way to threaten to shut down the government to me.  everyone knows the democrats won't defund obamacare so that appears to be a veiled, although terribly so, attempt to try and put the blame on the other side.  typical partisan rhetoric. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    dan, that sounds that a roundabout way to threaten to shut down the government to me.  everyone knows the democrats won't defund obamacare so that appears to be a veiled, although terribly so, attempt to try and put the blame on the other side.  typical partisan rhetoric. 

    I agree, but it IS all about politics. The Dems are very good at the PR game, the Repubs are not. If it does go that route, the Repubs can say that they voted to fund everything - SS payments, welfare payments, benefits to the vets, etc and it was the Dems that decided that Obamacare was more important than the elderly, disabled and paying the country's obligations. They'd be correct.

    If the govt does shut down, what would the public think was the better reason -  shutting down the government because the Dems won't defund Obamacare or shutting down the government because the Repubs won't fund it? Right now I'd say the public would side with the Repubs on it. Of course they could never discuss it clearly and would lose the PR war waged by Obama, Reid and every liberal media outlet.

    If I was in the House  I would not vote for anything that had funding for Obamacare in it. Nobody wants the govt to shut down. Force a compromise and get the 1 year delay for all tax payers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    dan, that sounds that a roundabout way to threaten to shut down the government to me.  everyone knows the democrats won't defund obamacare so that appears to be a veiled, although terribly so, attempt to try and put the blame on the other side.  typical partisan rhetoric. 

    I agree, but it IS all about politics. The Dems are very good at the PR game, the Repubs are not. If it does go that route, the Repubs can say that they voted to fund everything - SS payments, welfare payments, benefits to the vets, etc and it was the Dems that decided that Obamacare was more important than the elderly, disabled and paying the country's obligations. They'd be correct.

    If the govt does shut down, what would the public think was the better reason -  shutting down the government because the Dems won't defund Obamacare or shutting down the government because the Repubs won't fund it? Right now I'd say the public would side with the Repubs on it. Of course they could never discuss it clearly and would lose the PR war waged by Obama, Reid and every liberal media outlet.

    If I was in the House  I would not vote for anything that had funding for Obamacare in it. Nobody wants the govt to shut down. Force a compromise and get the 1 year delay for all tax payers.

     
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    i don't know how that plays out, but it goes to my other point.  obamacare is the law.  there are a lot of laws that are terrible and damaging and cause a lot of problems.  there are a lot of practices the government and certain entities in bed with the government that cause a lot of problems and cost money.  there are many serious issues but only this one seems to get the republicans more fired up than they've ever been. 
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    i don't know how that plays out, but it goes to my other point.  obamacare is the law.  there are a lot of laws that are terrible and damaging and cause a lot of problems.  there are a lot of practices the government and certain entities in bed with the government that cause a lot of problems and cost money.  there are many serious issues but only this one seems to get the republicans more fired up than they've ever been. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I agree, but it IS all about politics. The Dems are very good at the PR game, the Repubs are not. If it does go that route, the Repubs can say that they voted to fund everything - SS payments, welfare payments, benefits to the vets, etc and it was the Dems that decided that Obamacare was more important than the elderly, disabled and paying the country's obligations. They'd be correct.

    If the govt does shut down, what would the public think was the better reason -  shutting down the government because the Dems won't defund Obamacare or shutting down the government because the Repubs won't fund it? Right now I'd say the public would side with the Repubs on it. Of course they could never discuss it clearly and would lose the PR war waged by Obama, Reid and every liberal media outlet.

    If I was in the House  I would not vote for anything that had funding for Obamacare in it. Nobody wants the govt to shut down. Force a compromise and get the 1 year delay for all tax payers.

    I respectfully disagree. It would be different if the Republicans have at least a counter proposal of some sort. After all, they make it sound like the evil of all evils so it's not so unreasonable to expect an alternative from them, especially consider that they have A LOT OF TIME to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I agree, but it IS all about politics. The Dems are very good at the PR game, the Repubs are not. If it does go that route, the Repubs can say that they voted to fund everything - SS payments, welfare payments, benefits to the vets, etc and it was the Dems that decided that Obamacare was more important than the elderly, disabled and paying the country's obligations. They'd be correct.

    If the govt does shut down, what would the public think was the better reason -  shutting down the government because the Dems won't defund Obamacare or shutting down the government because the Repubs won't fund it? Right now I'd say the public would side with the Repubs on it. Of course they could never discuss it clearly and would lose the PR war waged by Obama, Reid and every liberal media outlet.

    If I was in the House  I would not vote for anything that had funding for Obamacare in it. Nobody wants the govt to shut down. Force a compromise and get the 1 year delay for all tax payers.

    I respectfully disagree. It would be different if the Republicans have at least a counter proposal of some sort. After all, they make it sound like the evil of all evils so it's not so unreasonable to expect an alternative from them, especially consider that they have A LOT OF TIME to do so.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i don't know how that plays out, but it goes to my other point.  obamacare is the law.  there are a lot of laws that are terrible and damaging and cause a lot of problems.  there are a lot of practices the government and certain entities in bed with the government that cause a lot of problems and cost money.  there are many serious issues but only this one seems to get the republicans more fired up than they've ever been. 

    True, there are a lot of bad laws as you said, but the ACA is the mother of all bad laws, right after the Patriot Act. The pure size of the law and the fundamental change shoved down every Americans throat is the issue. Also the BS way that it was passed is a sore spot. Something this large that affects 300 million people (well minus Congress and their staffers, is that legal?) should have been planned better and at least read by everyone voting on it. We are seeing the results of bad legislation getting hurried through without anyone reading it or even having an open discussion. When something like this passes without one vote from the minority party, you can rest assured that said party will do everything within their Constitutional rights and power to stop it at every turn. Since the Dems were so dishonest in the way they passed this, I think the Republicans have every right to use their power in the House to try and kill it.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i don't know how that plays out, but it goes to my other point.  obamacare is the law.  there are a lot of laws that are terrible and damaging and cause a lot of problems.  there are a lot of practices the government and certain entities in bed with the government that cause a lot of problems and cost money.  there are many serious issues but only this one seems to get the republicans more fired up than they've ever been. 

    True, there are a lot of bad laws as you said, but the ACA is the mother of all bad laws, right after the Patriot Act. The pure size of the law and the fundamental change shoved down every Americans throat is the issue. Also the BS way that it was passed is a sore spot. Something this large that affects 300 million people (well minus Congress and their staffers, is that legal?) should have been planned better and at least read by everyone voting on it. We are seeing the results of bad legislation getting hurried through without anyone reading it or even having an open discussion. When something like this passes without one vote from the minority party, you can rest assured that said party will do everything within their Constitutional rights and power to stop it at every turn. Since the Dems were so dishonest in the way they passed this, I think the Republicans have every right to use their power in the House to try and kill it.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The usual Obamacare bashing..

    Where are the proposals from you who are doing the heckling?

    No problem if you dislike something but this day in and day out finger pointing is such a snoozer.

    So outside the blind generalities can someone come up with a better solution that actually addresses the issue? Or is it better to hide behind a rock and act as if HC inflation would go away if you ignore it?

    Sometimes the move not made is the best move.

    While the industry was ( is ) broken, this did not fix it, it made it worse.

    IMO the rising costs of insurance were due to a few factors

    A) prices on everything go up over time
    B) As a generation of those covered got older, they used their insurance more, prices went up
    C) Litigious society...more lawsuits, cost of defending / paying out...prices passed on.


    So with those factors in mind, my solution can only fix C)
    TORT REFORM

    A) Limit the awards handed out
    B) make the plaintiff pay lawyer fees / court costs if case brought before the court is either thrown out of defendant found not responsible
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The usual Obamacare bashing..

    Where are the proposals from you who are doing the heckling?

    No problem if you dislike something but this day in and day out finger pointing is such a snoozer.

    So outside the blind generalities can someone come up with a better solution that actually addresses the issue? Or is it better to hide behind a rock and act as if HC inflation would go away if you ignore it?

    Sometimes the move not made is the best move.

    While the industry was ( is ) broken, this did not fix it, it made it worse.

    IMO the rising costs of insurance were due to a few factors

    A) prices on everything go up over time
    B) As a generation of those covered got older, they used their insurance more, prices went up
    C) Litigious society...more lawsuits, cost of defending / paying out...prices passed on.


    So with those factors in mind, my solution can only fix C)
    TORT REFORM

    A) Limit the awards handed out
    B) make the plaintiff pay lawyer fees / court costs if case brought before the court is either thrown out of defendant found not responsible
     
     
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    a lot of laws are passed this way.

    i would say, without a doubt in my opinion, that various food laws, food related laws, are much worse than obamacare and affect as many or more people.  and look how they are passed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K4pfiYK2IQ


    but no big deal while again, even though a lot of laws are passed this way, or eve worse, and a lot of laws are terrible for many people, and worse than obamacare (which does apparently help a lot of people), for some reason those laws are nothing but obamacfare is the end of freedom and all things good as we know them.

    also good point about the patriot act.  now that is a horrible law that is very shady and affects a lot of people.  now, if the republicans made that out to be the worst thing ever, i'd say they are onto something.  but of course, it's jsut the opposite.  we need the patriot act or muslims take over and as always, our feedom is at stake.  perhaps if we call it the obama patriot act, that might confuse the right and we'd get some action on it.


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    a lot of laws are passed this way.

    i would say, without a doubt in my opinion, that various food laws, food related laws, are much worse than obamacare and affect as many or more people.  and look how they are passed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K4pfiYK2IQ


    but no big deal while again, even though a lot of laws are passed this way, or eve worse, and a lot of laws are terrible for many people, and worse than obamacare (which does apparently help a lot of people), for some reason those laws are nothing but obamacfare is the end of freedom and all things good as we know them.

    also good point about the patriot act.  now that is a horrible law that is very shady and affects a lot of people.  now, if the republicans made that out to be the worst thing ever, i'd say they are onto something.  but of course, it's jsut the opposite.  we need the patriot act or muslims take over and as always, our feedom is at stake.  perhaps if we call it the obama patriot act, that might confuse the right and we'd get some action on it.


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