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    Boningo, Gateway Pundit, sources for truth????

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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 6:28 PM ET #1

    Recently, a member of this forum has held up an article posted by a radical
    right-wing ultra-conservative site "The Gateway Pundit" claiming Dan Boningo
    as a source for their missives smearing trump's presidential opponent
    Though no corroberating evidence was provided in the article just the word
    of a KNOWN conspircy theorist...

         "Obama can not stand Biden. He thinks Biden is a joke!
          Obama's crew think's Biden is a dammnn fool! "

    Which of course runs absurdly contrary to what we witnessed at the DNC on TV.

    Another member questioned the reliability of Dan Boningo's assertions  
    - given his heavy right-wing bias and motives.... and was assailed for it.

    Indeed, I too question the bias and motivations from Boningo as a source
    for any missives concerning Joe Biden, Obama, or anyone not supportive of
    the WORST president in modern history: donald "Dr.Death" trump

    More in next post...an_light

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    Recently, a member of this forum has held up an article posted by a radical
    right-wing ultra-conservative site "The Gateway Pundit" claiming Dan Boningo
    as a source for their missives smearing trump's presidential opponent
    Though no corroberating evidence was provided in the article just the word
    of a KNOWN conspircy theorist...

         "Obama can not stand Biden. He thinks Biden is a joke!
          Obama's crew think's Biden is a dammnn fool! "

    Which of course runs absurdly contrary to what we witnessed at the DNC on TV.

    Another member questioned the reliability of Dan Boningo's assertions  
    - given his heavy right-wing bias and motives.... and was assailed for it.

    Indeed, I too question the bias and motivations from Boningo as a source
    for any missives concerning Joe Biden, Obama, or anyone not supportive of
    the WORST president in modern history: donald "Dr.Death" trump

    More in next post...an_light

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 6:29 PM ET #2

    The article in question which our Covers forum member holds up as a
    [quote] "possible Pulitzer Prize winning article"
    was authored by the infamous Joe Hoft.
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/yy6te5g9

    Now if one is a conspiracy theorist like the disgraced moron Alex Jones, or
    QAnon, then Joe Hoft from The Gateway Pundit fits right in.

    Hoft is the radical right-winger who supposedly was the "first to expose the
    Covid-19 HOAX!" Yes, they mean HOAX! I can give you about 177,000
    reasons why it is NOT a "HOAX' but that's what the Gateway Pundit tells
    their cult-followers to believe. Many drink that kool-aid even if they happen
    to support our veterans...

    Jim and Joe Hoft who run The Gateway Pundit are disreputable conspiracy
    theorists, major right-wing media figures Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity
    have in recent weeks cited them in pushing false coronavirus claims.

    In a scathing review of their suspect/dubious claims came this article
    which will give any intelligent person good insight into their "credibility":
    20-PLUS Times Jim Hoft And The Gateway Pundit Were Absurdly Wrong
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y2bvbkjz

     

     

     

    Media Have Frequently Criticized Gateway Pundit For Errors

    Wash. Post Reporter Abby Ohlheiser: Gateway Pundit “In The Weeks Before The Election, Regularly Published Outright False Stories That Became Talking Points On The Conservative Internet.” [The Washington Post, 12/7/16]

    Wash. Post Reporter Callum Borchers: “‘Telling The Truth,’ Is Not, By Any Objective Measure, What The Gateway Pundit Does.” Borchers said the website is “known for spreading hoaxes” and that it would “bring a record of reckless unreliability to the White House.” [The Washington Post, 1/20/17]

    Kimberly Ross Writing For Conservative Blog RedState: Gateway Pundit Is A “Purveyor Of Fake News” And Features “Absolutely Incorrect Reporting.” [RedState, 1/16/17]

    Snopes.com: Gateway Pundit Is A “Factually-Challenged” And “Disreputable” Website. [Snopes.com, 10/29/16, 10/29/16]

    BuzzFeed Editor Craig Silverman: Gateway Pundit “Often Posts False Information.” [BuzzFeed, 1/24/17]

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    The article in question which our Covers forum member holds up as a
    [quote] "possible Pulitzer Prize winning article"
    was authored by the infamous Joe Hoft.
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/yy6te5g9

    Now if one is a conspiracy theorist like the disgraced moron Alex Jones, or
    QAnon, then Joe Hoft from The Gateway Pundit fits right in.

    Hoft is the radical right-winger who supposedly was the "first to expose the
    Covid-19 HOAX!" Yes, they mean HOAX! I can give you about 177,000
    reasons why it is NOT a "HOAX' but that's what the Gateway Pundit tells
    their cult-followers to believe. Many drink that kool-aid even if they happen
    to support our veterans...

    Jim and Joe Hoft who run The Gateway Pundit are disreputable conspiracy
    theorists, major right-wing media figures Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity
    have in recent weeks cited them in pushing false coronavirus claims.

    In a scathing review of their suspect/dubious claims came this article
    which will give any intelligent person good insight into their "credibility":
    20-PLUS Times Jim Hoft And The Gateway Pundit Were Absurdly Wrong
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y2bvbkjz

     

     

     

    Media Have Frequently Criticized Gateway Pundit For Errors

    Wash. Post Reporter Abby Ohlheiser: Gateway Pundit “In The Weeks Before The Election, Regularly Published Outright False Stories That Became Talking Points On The Conservative Internet.” [The Washington Post, 12/7/16]

    Wash. Post Reporter Callum Borchers: “‘Telling The Truth,’ Is Not, By Any Objective Measure, What The Gateway Pundit Does.” Borchers said the website is “known for spreading hoaxes” and that it would “bring a record of reckless unreliability to the White House.” [The Washington Post, 1/20/17]

    Kimberly Ross Writing For Conservative Blog RedState: Gateway Pundit Is A “Purveyor Of Fake News” And Features “Absolutely Incorrect Reporting.” [RedState, 1/16/17]

    Snopes.com: Gateway Pundit Is A “Factually-Challenged” And “Disreputable” Website. [Snopes.com, 10/29/16, 10/29/16]

    BuzzFeed Editor Craig Silverman: Gateway Pundit “Often Posts False Information.” [BuzzFeed, 1/24/17]

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 6:33 PM ET #3

    A member then suggested we do a Google search.

    So I did.

    Dan Boningo is a right-wing Republican (not even close to being moderate)
    Some excerpts from Wikipedia, which certainly raises questions as to
    Boningos' obvious BIAS and therefore motivations for smearing Biden:

    - Bongino has frequently appeared on Fox News' OPINION programming
    (known to be much further right than FOX News overall)
    - Bongino has frequently appeared on the DISGRACED conspiracy theory
    website InfoWars.[5]
    - Bongino is a proponent of Spygate, a conspiracy theory
    (obvious case for bias against Obama)
    - Boningo authored a book "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump"
    (alleging Obama was at the center of it; more case for bias against Obama)
    - Boningo launched an alternative website to the far right conservative
    "Drudge Report" criticizing Drudge for having "abandoned" Trump supporters
    (this was simply because Drudge started reporting the TRUTH!!!)
    - Bongino said of himself, "My entire life right now is about owning the libs.
    (is there any chance this obvious bias could affect his assertions???)
    - Bongino has called the investigation of the alleged Russian interference in the
    2016 United States elections a "total scam"
    (the just released report from the REPUBLICAN-led Senate says otherwise!!)
    - Bongino attacked former CIA Director John O. Brennan
    (Brennan opposes trump on merit, so Boningo attacks Brennan)
    - In May 2018, after Republican Congressman Trey Gowdy and some
    conservative legal experts challenged Trump's claims that the FBI had spied on
    his 2016 presidential campaign, Bongino claimed Gowdy had been "fooled" by DOJ
    (more conspiracy, Dan ???)
    - In February 2019, Bongino accused Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein of
    attempting a coup against Trump (still more CONSPIRACY theory from Dan!)
    - Denying the facts, Bongino published "Exonerated: The Failed Takedown of
    President Donald Trump by the Swamp."
    - Boningo became "unglued" on air and was BANNED from appearing on
    Shannon Bream’s Fox News show (of course, FOX then hired him)
    - Bongino, has long criticized the larger Black Lives Matter movement
    (Biden supports BLM ) A FOX News poll July 25 showed 59% of Moderates
    also support the BLM movement and a University of Texas poll -- with MORE
    Conservatives in the sample were still 43% favorable of BLM and just 34% not.
    - 3 time congressional election loser (as a conservative)
    - Boningo's unpopular NRATV show was dropped after less than a year.
    - Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for using his
    Secret Service background as part of his run for political office
    - Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for his claim
    of having secret information based on conversations he overheard in the
    Obama White House.
    - Unnamed former colleagues said he "tends to exaggerate his importance on
    the presidential detail and exaggerate his proximity" and that "We don't sit in
    on meetings at the White House. We don't sit in on high-level meetings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bongino

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    A member then suggested we do a Google search.

    So I did.

    Dan Boningo is a right-wing Republican (not even close to being moderate)
    Some excerpts from Wikipedia, which certainly raises questions as to
    Boningos' obvious BIAS and therefore motivations for smearing Biden:

    - Bongino has frequently appeared on Fox News' OPINION programming
    (known to be much further right than FOX News overall)
    - Bongino has frequently appeared on the DISGRACED conspiracy theory
    website InfoWars.[5]
    - Bongino is a proponent of Spygate, a conspiracy theory
    (obvious case for bias against Obama)
    - Boningo authored a book "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump"
    (alleging Obama was at the center of it; more case for bias against Obama)
    - Boningo launched an alternative website to the far right conservative
    "Drudge Report" criticizing Drudge for having "abandoned" Trump supporters
    (this was simply because Drudge started reporting the TRUTH!!!)
    - Bongino said of himself, "My entire life right now is about owning the libs.
    (is there any chance this obvious bias could affect his assertions???)
    - Bongino has called the investigation of the alleged Russian interference in the
    2016 United States elections a "total scam"
    (the just released report from the REPUBLICAN-led Senate says otherwise!!)
    - Bongino attacked former CIA Director John O. Brennan
    (Brennan opposes trump on merit, so Boningo attacks Brennan)
    - In May 2018, after Republican Congressman Trey Gowdy and some
    conservative legal experts challenged Trump's claims that the FBI had spied on
    his 2016 presidential campaign, Bongino claimed Gowdy had been "fooled" by DOJ
    (more conspiracy, Dan ???)
    - In February 2019, Bongino accused Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein of
    attempting a coup against Trump (still more CONSPIRACY theory from Dan!)
    - Denying the facts, Bongino published "Exonerated: The Failed Takedown of
    President Donald Trump by the Swamp."
    - Boningo became "unglued" on air and was BANNED from appearing on
    Shannon Bream’s Fox News show (of course, FOX then hired him)
    - Bongino, has long criticized the larger Black Lives Matter movement
    (Biden supports BLM ) A FOX News poll July 25 showed 59% of Moderates
    also support the BLM movement and a University of Texas poll -- with MORE
    Conservatives in the sample were still 43% favorable of BLM and just 34% not.
    - 3 time congressional election loser (as a conservative)
    - Boningo's unpopular NRATV show was dropped after less than a year.
    - Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for using his
    Secret Service background as part of his run for political office
    - Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for his claim
    of having secret information based on conversations he overheard in the
    Obama White House.
    - Unnamed former colleagues said he "tends to exaggerate his importance on
    the presidential detail and exaggerate his proximity" and that "We don't sit in
    on meetings at the White House. We don't sit in on high-level meetings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bongino

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 6:43 PM ET #4

    Seems totally neutral, non-biased, and reliable....an_roll_laugh

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    Seems totally neutral, non-biased, and reliable....an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 7:36 PM ET #5

    you have done everything but name names. I don't think you'll get a civilized discussion this way. Just saying...

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    you have done everything but name names. I don't think you'll get a civilized discussion this way. Just saying...

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 7:42 PM ET #6

    No these sources are not accepted as truth by other publicist but they usually onto something.

    For instant a source stated that Lenore nemo was hunting with Scalia in a Texas ranch.

    Spock himself.. well as we dwelt into the matter Scalia had an exclusive invitation by st hythins  to hunt quail in Texas. 

    St hanthis was founded by von Spock back in medical days to preserve the hunting of European buffalo. 

    There was no interview but with the ranch owner. The guests attending the shooting gala had left . 

    Scalia was pronounced dead by heart attack by a judge his body was completely embalmed and he was sent back to his son the priest for burial....

    St hythins American chapter was started by the grove in 1966

     

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    No these sources are not accepted as truth by other publicist but they usually onto something.

    For instant a source stated that Lenore nemo was hunting with Scalia in a Texas ranch.

    Spock himself.. well as we dwelt into the matter Scalia had an exclusive invitation by st hythins  to hunt quail in Texas. 

    St hanthis was founded by von Spock back in medical days to preserve the hunting of European buffalo. 

    There was no interview but with the ranch owner. The guests attending the shooting gala had left . 

    Scalia was pronounced dead by heart attack by a judge his body was completely embalmed and he was sent back to his son the priest for burial....

    St hythins American chapter was started by the grove in 1966

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2020 - 7:46 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by sportschat:

    you have done everything but name names. I don't think you'll get a civilized discussion this way. Just saying...

    I did what was requested of another member: do a Google search,

    and I laid out my findings quoting multiple sources.

    I am not trying to create any discussion, but refute the article with findings

    regarding the truth/accuracy/credibility of the source listed by a forum member.

    Clearly there is room for massive doubts for ANYTHING from the Gateway Pundit

    Just saying...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportschat:

    you have done everything but name names. I don't think you'll get a civilized discussion this way. Just saying...

    I did what was requested of another member: do a Google search,

    and I laid out my findings quoting multiple sources.

    I am not trying to create any discussion, but refute the article with findings

    regarding the truth/accuracy/credibility of the source listed by a forum member.

    Clearly there is room for massive doubts for ANYTHING from the Gateway Pundit

    Just saying...

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 12:16 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    A member then suggested we do a Google search. So I did. Dan Boningo is a right-wing Republican (not even close to being moderate)Some excerpts from Wikipedia, which certainly raises questions as to Boningos' obvious BIAS and therefore motivations for smearing Biden: - Bongino has frequently appeared on Fox News' OPINION programming (known to be much further right than FOX News overall)- Bongino has frequently appeared on the DISGRACED conspiracy theory website InfoWars.[5]- Bongino is a proponent of Spygate, a conspiracy theory (obvious case for bias against Obama)- Boningo authored a book "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump" (alleging Obama was at the center of it; more case for bias against Obama)- Boningo launched an alternative website to the far right conservative "Drudge Report" criticizing Drudge for having "abandoned" Trump supporters (this was simply because Drudge started reporting the TRUTH!!!) - Bongino said of himself, "My entire life right now is about owning the libs. (is there any chance this obvious bias could affect his assertions???)- Bongino has called the investigation of the alleged Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections a "total scam" (the just released report from the REPUBLICAN-led Senate says otherwise!!)- Bongino attacked former CIA Director John O. Brennan (Brennan opposes trump on merit, so Boningo attacks Brennan)- In May 2018, after Republican Congressman Trey Gowdy and some conservative legal experts challenged Trump's claims that the FBI had spied on his 2016 presidential campaign, Bongino claimed Gowdy had been "fooled" by DOJ (more conspiracy, Dan ???)- In February 2019, Bongino accused Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein of attempting a coup against Trump (still more CONSPIRACY theory from Dan!)- Denying the facts, Bongino published "Exonerated: The Failed Takedown of President Donald Trump by the Swamp." - Boningo became "unglued" on air and was BANNED from appearing on Shannon Bream’s Fox News show (of course, FOX then hired him)- Bongino, has long criticized the larger Black Lives Matter movement (Biden supports BLM ) A FOX News poll July 25 showed 59% of Moderates also support the BLM movement and a University of Texas poll -- with MORE Conservatives in the sample were still 43% favorable of BLM and just 34% not.- 3 time congressional election loser (as a conservative)- Boningo's unpopular NRATV show was dropped after less than a year. - Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for using his Secret Service background as part of his run for political office - Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for his claim of having secret information based on conversations he overheard in the Obama White House.- Unnamed former colleagues said he "tends to exaggerate his importance on the presidential detail and exaggerate his proximity" and that "We don't sit in on meetings at the White House. We don't sit in on high-level meetings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bongino
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    A member then suggested we do a Google search. So I did. Dan Boningo is a right-wing Republican (not even close to being moderate)Some excerpts from Wikipedia, which certainly raises questions as to Boningos' obvious BIAS and therefore motivations for smearing Biden: - Bongino has frequently appeared on Fox News' OPINION programming (known to be much further right than FOX News overall)- Bongino has frequently appeared on the DISGRACED conspiracy theory website InfoWars.[5]- Bongino is a proponent of Spygate, a conspiracy theory (obvious case for bias against Obama)- Boningo authored a book "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump" (alleging Obama was at the center of it; more case for bias against Obama)- Boningo launched an alternative website to the far right conservative "Drudge Report" criticizing Drudge for having "abandoned" Trump supporters (this was simply because Drudge started reporting the TRUTH!!!) - Bongino said of himself, "My entire life right now is about owning the libs. (is there any chance this obvious bias could affect his assertions???)- Bongino has called the investigation of the alleged Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections a "total scam" (the just released report from the REPUBLICAN-led Senate says otherwise!!)- Bongino attacked former CIA Director John O. Brennan (Brennan opposes trump on merit, so Boningo attacks Brennan)- In May 2018, after Republican Congressman Trey Gowdy and some conservative legal experts challenged Trump's claims that the FBI had spied on his 2016 presidential campaign, Bongino claimed Gowdy had been "fooled" by DOJ (more conspiracy, Dan ???)- In February 2019, Bongino accused Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein of attempting a coup against Trump (still more CONSPIRACY theory from Dan!)- Denying the facts, Bongino published "Exonerated: The Failed Takedown of President Donald Trump by the Swamp." - Boningo became "unglued" on air and was BANNED from appearing on Shannon Bream’s Fox News show (of course, FOX then hired him)- Bongino, has long criticized the larger Black Lives Matter movement (Biden supports BLM ) A FOX News poll July 25 showed 59% of Moderates also support the BLM movement and a University of Texas poll -- with MORE Conservatives in the sample were still 43% favorable of BLM and just 34% not.- 3 time congressional election loser (as a conservative)- Boningo's unpopular NRATV show was dropped after less than a year. - Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for using his Secret Service background as part of his run for political office - Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for his claim of having secret information based on conversations he overheard in the Obama White House.- Unnamed former colleagues said he "tends to exaggerate his importance on the presidential detail and exaggerate his proximity" and that "We don't sit in on meetings at the White House. We don't sit in on high-level meetings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bongino
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 2:29 PM ET #9

    Please allow me  to give you the stunning headcount for today, 23 August 2020.

    1. Planned Parenthood will kill 1,000 babies and then sell their tissue and organs to the highest bidder across the plant.

    2. The NRA will kill 0 people today.

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    Please allow me  to give you the stunning headcount for today, 23 August 2020.

    1. Planned Parenthood will kill 1,000 babies and then sell their tissue and organs to the highest bidder across the plant.

    2. The NRA will kill 0 people today.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 2:41 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    No these sources are not accepted as truth by other publicist but they usually onto something.

    For instant a source stated that Lenore nemo was hunting with Scalia in a Texas ranch.

    Spock himself.. well as we dwelt into the matter Scalia had an exclusive invitation by st hythins  to hunt quail in Texas. 

    St hanthis was founded by von Spock back in medical days to preserve the hunting of European buffalo. 

    There was no interview but with the ranch owner. The guests attending the shooting gala had left . 

    Scalia was pronounced dead by heart attack by a judge his body was completely embalmed and he was sent back to his son the priest for burial....

    St hythins American chapter was started by the grove in 1966

     

     

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    No these sources are not accepted as truth by other publicist but they usually onto something.

    For instant a source stated that Lenore nemo was hunting with Scalia in a Texas ranch.

    Spock himself.. well as we dwelt into the matter Scalia had an exclusive invitation by st hythins  to hunt quail in Texas. 

    St hanthis was founded by von Spock back in medical days to preserve the hunting of European buffalo. 

    There was no interview but with the ranch owner. The guests attending the shooting gala had left . 

    Scalia was pronounced dead by heart attack by a judge his body was completely embalmed and he was sent back to his son the priest for burial....

    St hythins American chapter was started by the grove in 1966

     

     

    Interesting!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2020 - 2:44 PM ET #11

    That's what I thought!

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    That's what I thought!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Seems totally neutral, non-biased, and reliable....

    Oh yeah......Boningo is totally UNbiased and with NO ulterior motives.  an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Seems totally neutral, non-biased, and reliable....

    Oh yeah......Boningo is totally UNbiased and with NO ulterior motives.  an_roll_laugh

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Seems totally neutral, non-biased, and reliable.... Oh yeah......Boningo is totally UNbiased and with NO ulterior motives.
    totally  an_baby  lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Seems totally neutral, non-biased, and reliable.... Oh yeah......Boningo is totally UNbiased and with NO ulterior motives.
    totally  an_baby  lol

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