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    Chinese brokered peace deal with Saudi Arabia and Iran

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    nature1970
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 8:43 AM ET #1

    https://time.com/6262985/china-saudi-arabia-iran-ukraine-peace-talks/

    Leveraging that China is now the largest consumer of middle east oil has dismantled tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

    United states has failed the beejing government is now focused as states men in Ukraine and Russia theater

    And moving to end the war in Ukraine.

    America caught flat footed is realizing China has moved to a position .

    In Moscow has stated a new world order is to begin... As their sphere of influence economically financially and diplomatically has come while Washington is declining ...

    The Petro dollar is being replaced by the Petro yuan....

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    https://time.com/6262985/china-saudi-arabia-iran-ukraine-peace-talks/

    Leveraging that China is now the largest consumer of middle east oil has dismantled tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

    United states has failed the beejing government is now focused as states men in Ukraine and Russia theater

    And moving to end the war in Ukraine.

    America caught flat footed is realizing China has moved to a position .

    In Moscow has stated a new world order is to begin... As their sphere of influence economically financially and diplomatically has come while Washington is declining ...

    The Petro dollar is being replaced by the Petro yuan....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 8:46 AM ET #2

    So what's our news saying...

    Hunters lap top or Donald pending indictment...

    Oh wait can they raise the debt ceiling...blah blah...

    Meanwhile china is moving to a central Asian summit to discuss trade and security concerns for former Soviet satellite nations.

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    So what's our news saying...

    Hunters lap top or Donald pending indictment...

    Oh wait can they raise the debt ceiling...blah blah...

    Meanwhile china is moving to a central Asian summit to discuss trade and security concerns for former Soviet satellite nations.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 9:03 AM ET #3

    But Donald Trump said China was the real threat, not Russia. So you MUST take the stance that China is ok. (Ignore that in Asia, China builds two coal fired power plants a week)

    Donald Trump said Nordstream was bad for Germany, they rely on and enrich Russia. So you MUST OK Nordstream until the revelation comes true, then blow it up like terrorists.

    It's like a son who hates his father and wants to dismantle everything logically sane.

    It's a chess game and Biden couldn't even play checkers.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/republicans-says-china-is-americas-biggest-threat-democrats-say-russia

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/30/republicans-see-china-more-negatively-than-democrats-even-as-criticism-rises-in-both-parties/

     

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    But Donald Trump said China was the real threat, not Russia. So you MUST take the stance that China is ok. (Ignore that in Asia, China builds two coal fired power plants a week)

    Donald Trump said Nordstream was bad for Germany, they rely on and enrich Russia. So you MUST OK Nordstream until the revelation comes true, then blow it up like terrorists.

    It's like a son who hates his father and wants to dismantle everything logically sane.

    It's a chess game and Biden couldn't even play checkers.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/republicans-says-china-is-americas-biggest-threat-democrats-say-russia

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/30/republicans-see-china-more-negatively-than-democrats-even-as-criticism-rises-in-both-parties/

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 9:32 AM ET #4

    Blame Trump for US abandoning Iran nuclear deal.  The most significant international peace achievement in years.  Under Trump, enemies such as Russia and North Korea don't fear the US.  Nor allies can trust the US.  Historians rate Trump among the worst presidents in foreign relations.

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    Blame Trump for US abandoning Iran nuclear deal.  The most significant international peace achievement in years.  Under Trump, enemies such as Russia and North Korea don't fear the US.  Nor allies can trust the US.  Historians rate Trump among the worst presidents in foreign relations.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 9:49 AM ET #5

    It's cold this morning, blame Trump. an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

    No my friend, YOU BLAME BIDEN, IT'S UNDER HIS WATCH. HE IS FAILING,........BAD!!!!

    Under Trump, Russia backed down, waited for "weaker times", now.

    China is moving fast, now, wonder why?? DUH!!??

    Reading propaganda on Yahoo this morning, lessons from Iraq war. They tie MAGA to the Iraq war. Right up your alley Third. an_roll_laugh

    They of course, never mention the real war mongers;

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    It's cold this morning, blame Trump. an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

    No my friend, YOU BLAME BIDEN, IT'S UNDER HIS WATCH. HE IS FAILING,........BAD!!!!

    Under Trump, Russia backed down, waited for "weaker times", now.

    China is moving fast, now, wonder why?? DUH!!??

    Reading propaganda on Yahoo this morning, lessons from Iraq war. They tie MAGA to the Iraq war. Right up your alley Third. an_roll_laugh

    They of course, never mention the real war mongers;

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 10:14 AM ET #6

    Yup it's not our government is a bunch of complete losers it's the two president are at fault... 

    Let's face it we elected as Americans a complete bunch of idiots that should not be trusted with a new born let alone the great democracy we inherited.

    The whole ball of wax is corrupted and the world is looking for new leader ... And china meets their goal.

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    Yup it's not our government is a bunch of complete losers it's the two president are at fault... 

    Let's face it we elected as Americans a complete bunch of idiots that should not be trusted with a new born let alone the great democracy we inherited.

    The whole ball of wax is corrupted and the world is looking for new leader ... And china meets their goal.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 10:42 AM ET #7

    @nature1970

     

     Smart, intellegent people (leaving out the few with oversized egos) would NEVER run for office. They can make it big in the real world without being sliced opened and disected like we do now to those running for office. Did you go to a party at age 16 maybe had a few drinks and said the word person? (find and replace an_roll_laugh) or maybe the N word as kids often have stupid moments?? So what if you were a kid, your oh so bbbbaaaadddd!!!

    People violently protesting in your front yard, tracking where you go. Pig blood on your porch. WHO THE HELL WANTS THAT??

    No, all we get are the losers and it's our own fault. an_light

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     Smart, intellegent people (leaving out the few with oversized egos) would NEVER run for office. They can make it big in the real world without being sliced opened and disected like we do now to those running for office. Did you go to a party at age 16 maybe had a few drinks and said the word person? (find and replace an_roll_laugh) or maybe the N word as kids often have stupid moments?? So what if you were a kid, your oh so bbbbaaaadddd!!!

    People violently protesting in your front yard, tracking where you go. Pig blood on your porch. WHO THE HELL WANTS THAT??

    No, all we get are the losers and it's our own fault. an_light

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 10:46 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @nature1970  Smart, intellegent people (leaving out the few with oversized egos) would NEVER run for office. They can make it big in the real world without being sliced opened and disected like we do now to those running for office. Did you go to a party at age 16 maybe had a few drinks and said the word person or maybe the N word as kids often have stupid moments?? So what if you were a kid, your oh so bbbbaaaadddd!!! People violently protesting in your front yard, tracking where you go. Pig blood on your porch. WHO THE HELL WANTS THAT?? No, all we get are the losers and it's our own fault.

    See your coming around already.

    We got the losers in office .

    The ones no wanted around at any party. 

    We got the weasels rats the ones who had no leadership skills the ones who couldn't be anything else... Yup you got it and we deserve better than these idiots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @nature1970  Smart, intellegent people (leaving out the few with oversized egos) would NEVER run for office. They can make it big in the real world without being sliced opened and disected like we do now to those running for office. Did you go to a party at age 16 maybe had a few drinks and said the word person or maybe the N word as kids often have stupid moments?? So what if you were a kid, your oh so bbbbaaaadddd!!! People violently protesting in your front yard, tracking where you go. Pig blood on your porch. WHO THE HELL WANTS THAT?? No, all we get are the losers and it's our own fault.

    See your coming around already.

    We got the losers in office .

    The ones no wanted around at any party. 

    We got the weasels rats the ones who had no leadership skills the ones who couldn't be anything else... Yup you got it and we deserve better than these idiots...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 10:51 AM ET #9

    The world has been looking for a leader since George Walker bush went to Iraq on false pretenses...

    So where is the weopons of mass destruction sadam Hussain possessed.. oh he didn't have any what Iraq had was the Nineveh discovery.

    Yes the antiquity of that find so well preserved under the sand was the reason mosul became a target... Not to mention stopping Iraq oil made ours worth more...

    And sadam put a bounty on his father's head...

    So the world looked them and there and said enough took 20 years before finding the new super power and it's called China... Better sharpen up on your mandarin.

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    The world has been looking for a leader since George Walker bush went to Iraq on false pretenses...

    So where is the weopons of mass destruction sadam Hussain possessed.. oh he didn't have any what Iraq had was the Nineveh discovery.

    Yes the antiquity of that find so well preserved under the sand was the reason mosul became a target... Not to mention stopping Iraq oil made ours worth more...

    And sadam put a bounty on his father's head...

    So the world looked them and there and said enough took 20 years before finding the new super power and it's called China... Better sharpen up on your mandarin.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 1:29 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The Petro dollar is being replaced by the Petro yuan....

    Unlikely that yuan or euro can replace US dollar as the world's reserve currency in the near future.  Bitcoin and gold are bigger threats.  More probable is that inflation or economic instability can weaken currencies.  By raising interest rates and increasing money supply, federal reserve can stabilize economy and prevent weakening of dollar.  So current biggest threat is House GOP reluctance to raise debt ceiling to prevent default.  As usual, Americans are their own worst enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The Petro dollar is being replaced by the Petro yuan....

    Unlikely that yuan or euro can replace US dollar as the world's reserve currency in the near future.  Bitcoin and gold are bigger threats.  More probable is that inflation or economic instability can weaken currencies.  By raising interest rates and increasing money supply, federal reserve can stabilize economy and prevent weakening of dollar.  So current biggest threat is House GOP reluctance to raise debt ceiling to prevent default.  As usual, Americans are their own worst enemy.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 1:34 PM ET #11

    Um it already has.

    Most of the worlds population is already using the Petro yuan... Europe please Europe's population and America's population isn't half of china's population alone.

    Get your head out of the sand two world reserve currency are in play...

    Here is China’s multitrillion, multidecade plan to replace the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency.

     

    How do currencies achieve reserve status?

    Achieving reserve currency status isn’t a formal process. Instead, it’s like winning a popularity contest.

     

    The most popular currency for global trade and cross-border commerce emerges as the de facto reserve currency. The “popularity” of a currency is simply based on the perception of security and resilience of the issuing country. This is the asset or currency that most central banks across the world prefer to hold in reserve, which is why the dominant asset earns the label of “reserve currency.”

     

    Since 1450, there have been six major reserve currency periods. Portugal dominated the global reserves until 1530

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    Um it already has.

    Most of the worlds population is already using the Petro yuan... Europe please Europe's population and America's population isn't half of china's population alone.

    Get your head out of the sand two world reserve currency are in play...

    Here is China’s multitrillion, multidecade plan to replace the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency.

     

    How do currencies achieve reserve status?

    Achieving reserve currency status isn’t a formal process. Instead, it’s like winning a popularity contest.

     

    The most popular currency for global trade and cross-border commerce emerges as the de facto reserve currency. The “popularity” of a currency is simply based on the perception of security and resilience of the issuing country. This is the asset or currency that most central banks across the world prefer to hold in reserve, which is why the dominant asset earns the label of “reserve currency.”

     

    Since 1450, there have been six major reserve currency periods. Portugal dominated the global reserves until 1530

     
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    China's Plan 

    Last year, Chinese leaders made it clear that they wanted to boost the renminbi’s profile as a reserve currency. China’s economy and trade flows are large enough to support such a move. However, the country now needs to convince foreign central bankers to start holding the Chinese Yuan (the principal unit of the renminbi) in reserve.

     

    In July 2022, The People's Bank of China announced a collaboration with five nations and the Bank for International Settlements to achieve this. China, along with Indonesia, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Chile would each contribute 15 billion yuan, about $2.2 billion, to the Renminbi Liquidity Arrangement.

     

    Meanwhile, the Chinese Yuan has already become a de facto reserve currency in Russia. Russian leadership turned to China after facing sanctions from the West due to its invasion of Ukraine.

     

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    China's Plan 

    Last year, Chinese leaders made it clear that they wanted to boost the renminbi’s profile as a reserve currency. China’s economy and trade flows are large enough to support such a move. However, the country now needs to convince foreign central bankers to start holding the Chinese Yuan (the principal unit of the renminbi) in reserve.

     

    In July 2022, The People's Bank of China announced a collaboration with five nations and the Bank for International Settlements to achieve this. China, along with Indonesia, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Chile would each contribute 15 billion yuan, about $2.2 billion, to the Renminbi Liquidity Arrangement.

     

    Meanwhile, the Chinese Yuan has already become a de facto reserve currency in Russia. Russian leadership turned to China after facing sanctions from the West due to its invasion of Ukraine.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2023 - 10:07 PM ET #13

    As an example.

    Russia is selling Iran war planes.,

    https://www.nepalnews.com/s/global/iran-to-buy-russia-s-sukhoi-su-35-fighter-jets

    Iran has finalized a deal to buy Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets from Russia, state media reported, as defense cooperation between the two countries deepens, reported Times of Israel.

    "Moscow is ready to deliver the fighter jets to Iran," the country's mission to the United Nations was quoted as saying in the official IRNA.

    "Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets were technically approved by the Iranian aviation experts, and therefore... Iran finalised the contract to buy those planes," it said.

    However, there was no immediate confirmation of the deal from Russia.

    "Russia announced it was ready to sell them" after the expiry in October 2020 of restrictions on Iran purchasing conventional weapons under UN Resolution 2231, said the statement carried out late Friday by the official IRNA news agency.

    "The Sukhoi 35 fighter jets were technically acceptable for Iran," it added.

    So how would purchase be facilitated...in federal reserve notes????

    Or Chinese yuan.?

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    As an example.

    Russia is selling Iran war planes.,

    https://www.nepalnews.com/s/global/iran-to-buy-russia-s-sukhoi-su-35-fighter-jets

    Iran has finalized a deal to buy Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets from Russia, state media reported, as defense cooperation between the two countries deepens, reported Times of Israel.

    "Moscow is ready to deliver the fighter jets to Iran," the country's mission to the United Nations was quoted as saying in the official IRNA.

    "Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets were technically approved by the Iranian aviation experts, and therefore... Iran finalised the contract to buy those planes," it said.

    However, there was no immediate confirmation of the deal from Russia.

    "Russia announced it was ready to sell them" after the expiry in October 2020 of restrictions on Iran purchasing conventional weapons under UN Resolution 2231, said the statement carried out late Friday by the official IRNA news agency.

    "The Sukhoi 35 fighter jets were technically acceptable for Iran," it added.

    So how would purchase be facilitated...in federal reserve notes????

    Or Chinese yuan.?

     
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    An interesting article on the swing away from the federal reserve notes.

    https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/de-dollarization-more-countries-seek-alternatives-to-the-u-s-dollar/

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    An interesting article on the swing away from the federal reserve notes.

    https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/de-dollarization-more-countries-seek-alternatives-to-the-u-s-dollar/

     
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    This is the single most important thread in the cess pool sub forum right now....vastly underrated and many are in need of educating themselves on this topic.  

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    This is the single most important thread in the cess pool sub forum right now....vastly underrated and many are in need of educating themselves on this topic.  

    Take your heads out of the sand....wake up.....unplug from your matrix.... 

     
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    This is why , Russia and china contribute to both party campaigns to keep the friction here.

    Chinese through anonymous donations can contribute to pacs to influence elections here.

    As does Russia. By keeping America divided then Russia and china , are gaining huge influence across the globe.

    We are weakened by our house divided and they fill the power vacuum.

    Trump played into their hands by his isolation statwgy make America great again and the America first platform withdrawal of support for world accords and lack of any leader here has given other nations a need to look beyond America ...

    So now the alliance is rebuilt China Russian relations are better than they have been since Nixon was in office.

    Saudi Arabia Iran the middle east Brazil Argentina Africa are looking for investors from China and Moscow.

    We are continuing to drop the ball. And china is becoming the new leader in the free world.

    This continued blocking of house and Senate leadership has led to very high inflation rates. Where china has a inflation rate of 2% their money grows in value. 

    They are buying gold to back their currency.

    We are on the edge of defaulting in loans.

    They states a new world order is emerging and They are stating it publicly...

    So what's the news... 6 people tragically died in a shooting at a private school.... Well 20 are gunned down every day in Chicago.

    And a life is lost every tenth of a second here. Every thousandths of a second world wide.

    So it jams our news feeds so the real story can be hidden. China is becoming the lead nation of this world. And we are being duped.

    Ukraine had one of the toughest gun laws ...

    No one but a small group and public safety could.own a pistol. When the invasion of their country began Russia roles unexpended to Kyiv and then Ukraine has pushed them back to eastern Ukraine which has been in a civil war since the western friendly presidents took control.  2014.

    Now some how USA and allies have pressured Zelensky to not accept a treaty without taken back crimeria. Except the west Germany France Spain and European union is beginning to discuss these things with China .

    We have effectively been neutralized as a world leader and it takes our government to unbunch their panties and wake up to we need to prioritize orur foreign and domestic policy to help all of America not red states or blue states but all Americans and rise again to have a voice in world affairs.

    Our alliances are with united kingdom Canada Japan Israel . The European union is now a neutral. Country... The rest of world looks to China for leadership.

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    This is why , Russia and china contribute to both party campaigns to keep the friction here.

    Chinese through anonymous donations can contribute to pacs to influence elections here.

    As does Russia. By keeping America divided then Russia and china , are gaining huge influence across the globe.

    We are weakened by our house divided and they fill the power vacuum.

    Trump played into their hands by his isolation statwgy make America great again and the America first platform withdrawal of support for world accords and lack of any leader here has given other nations a need to look beyond America ...

    So now the alliance is rebuilt China Russian relations are better than they have been since Nixon was in office.

    Saudi Arabia Iran the middle east Brazil Argentina Africa are looking for investors from China and Moscow.

    We are continuing to drop the ball. And china is becoming the new leader in the free world.

    This continued blocking of house and Senate leadership has led to very high inflation rates. Where china has a inflation rate of 2% their money grows in value. 

    They are buying gold to back their currency.

    We are on the edge of defaulting in loans.

    They states a new world order is emerging and They are stating it publicly...

    So what's the news... 6 people tragically died in a shooting at a private school.... Well 20 are gunned down every day in Chicago.

    And a life is lost every tenth of a second here. Every thousandths of a second world wide.

    So it jams our news feeds so the real story can be hidden. China is becoming the lead nation of this world. And we are being duped.

    Ukraine had one of the toughest gun laws ...

    No one but a small group and public safety could.own a pistol. When the invasion of their country began Russia roles unexpended to Kyiv and then Ukraine has pushed them back to eastern Ukraine which has been in a civil war since the western friendly presidents took control.  2014.

    Now some how USA and allies have pressured Zelensky to not accept a treaty without taken back crimeria. Except the west Germany France Spain and European union is beginning to discuss these things with China .

    We have effectively been neutralized as a world leader and it takes our government to unbunch their panties and wake up to we need to prioritize orur foreign and domestic policy to help all of America not red states or blue states but all Americans and rise again to have a voice in world affairs.

    Our alliances are with united kingdom Canada Japan Israel . The European union is now a neutral. Country... The rest of world looks to China for leadership.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    This is why , Russia and china contribute to both party campaigns to keep the friction here. Chinese through anonymous donations can contribute to pacs to influence elections here. As does Russia. By keeping America divided then Russia and china , are gaining huge influence across the globe. We are weakened by our house divided and they fill the power vacuum. Trump played into their hands by his isolation statwgy make America great again and the America first platform withdrawal of support for world accords and lack of any leader here has given other nations a need to look beyond America ... So now the alliance is rebuilt China Russian relations are better than they have been since Nixon was in office. Saudi Arabia Iran the middle east Brazil Argentina Africa are looking for investors from China and Moscow. We are continuing to drop the ball. And china is becoming the new leader in the free world. This continued blocking of house and Senate leadership has led to very high inflation rates. Where china has a inflation rate of 2% their money grows in value.  They are buying gold to back their currency. We are on the edge of defaulting in loans. They states a new world order is emerging and They are stating it publicly... So what's the news... 6 people tragically died in a shooting at a private school.... Well 20 are gunned down every day in Chicago. And a life is lost every tenth of a second here. Every thousandths of a second world wide. So it jams our news feeds so the real story can be hidden. China is becoming the lead nation of this world. And we are being duped. Ukraine had one of the toughest gun laws ... No one but a small group and public safety could.own a pistol. When the invasion of their country began Russia roles unexpended to Kyiv and then Ukraine has pushed them back to eastern Ukraine which has been in a civil war since the western friendly presidents took control.  2014. Now some how USA and allies have pressured Zelensky to not accept a treaty without taken back crimeria. Except the west Germany France Spain and European union is beginning to discuss these things with China . We have effectively been neutralized as a world leader and it takes our government to unbunch their panties and wake up to we need to prioritize orur foreign and domestic policy to help all of America not red states or blue states but all Americans and rise again to have a voice in world affairs. Our alliances are with united kingdom Canada Japan Israel . The European union is now a neutral. Country... The rest of world looks to China for leadership.

    I get that Trump is partly responsible for this, but no where in your post do you talk about how Obama admin and of course Biden were weak on China and paved the way for Trump. As have other presidents been weak on China, but I would say none showed more than Obama and Biden and we know why. Trump at least was trying to hold China's "feet" to the fire and it got us Covid released. Now we have a weak president who I said back in 2019 would be the closest we have come to WWIII. It's easy to blame Trump for everything with blinders on, but Obama was weak on China AND Russia with Biden following suit. Trump was so outside of the box, there were really no skirmishes. 

     

    Also since you think Trump is a clown with Biden, and yes Trump is very clownish in a different way than Biden who is just pathetic. There were many times I cringed at Trump and totally agree he was never very presidential, but after Obama, we needed someone that wasn't going to apologize for being American.

     

    So who are your presidential picks that aren't clowns? You are one of the more fair people on here, with so many others are so far left or head in the sand. peace_5

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    This is why , Russia and china contribute to both party campaigns to keep the friction here. Chinese through anonymous donations can contribute to pacs to influence elections here. As does Russia. By keeping America divided then Russia and china , are gaining huge influence across the globe. We are weakened by our house divided and they fill the power vacuum. Trump played into their hands by his isolation statwgy make America great again and the America first platform withdrawal of support for world accords and lack of any leader here has given other nations a need to look beyond America ... So now the alliance is rebuilt China Russian relations are better than they have been since Nixon was in office. Saudi Arabia Iran the middle east Brazil Argentina Africa are looking for investors from China and Moscow. We are continuing to drop the ball. And china is becoming the new leader in the free world. This continued blocking of house and Senate leadership has led to very high inflation rates. Where china has a inflation rate of 2% their money grows in value.  They are buying gold to back their currency. We are on the edge of defaulting in loans. They states a new world order is emerging and They are stating it publicly... So what's the news... 6 people tragically died in a shooting at a private school.... Well 20 are gunned down every day in Chicago. And a life is lost every tenth of a second here. Every thousandths of a second world wide. So it jams our news feeds so the real story can be hidden. China is becoming the lead nation of this world. And we are being duped. Ukraine had one of the toughest gun laws ... No one but a small group and public safety could.own a pistol. When the invasion of their country began Russia roles unexpended to Kyiv and then Ukraine has pushed them back to eastern Ukraine which has been in a civil war since the western friendly presidents took control.  2014. Now some how USA and allies have pressured Zelensky to not accept a treaty without taken back crimeria. Except the west Germany France Spain and European union is beginning to discuss these things with China . We have effectively been neutralized as a world leader and it takes our government to unbunch their panties and wake up to we need to prioritize orur foreign and domestic policy to help all of America not red states or blue states but all Americans and rise again to have a voice in world affairs. Our alliances are with united kingdom Canada Japan Israel . The European union is now a neutral. Country... The rest of world looks to China for leadership.

    I get that Trump is partly responsible for this, but no where in your post do you talk about how Obama admin and of course Biden were weak on China and paved the way for Trump. As have other presidents been weak on China, but I would say none showed more than Obama and Biden and we know why. Trump at least was trying to hold China's "feet" to the fire and it got us Covid released. Now we have a weak president who I said back in 2019 would be the closest we have come to WWIII. It's easy to blame Trump for everything with blinders on, but Obama was weak on China AND Russia with Biden following suit. Trump was so outside of the box, there were really no skirmishes. 

     

    Also since you think Trump is a clown with Biden, and yes Trump is very clownish in a different way than Biden who is just pathetic. There were many times I cringed at Trump and totally agree he was never very presidential, but after Obama, we needed someone that wasn't going to apologize for being American.

     

    So who are your presidential picks that aren't clowns? You are one of the more fair people on here, with so many others are so far left or head in the sand. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    This is the single most important thread in the cess pool sub forum right now....vastly underrated and many are in need of educating themselves on this topic.   Take your heads out of the sand....wake up.....unplug from your matrix....

    My bro Nature is often written off on this site but he's as sharp as a tack and often drops knowledge that is either glossed over or completely disregarded. Third just tried to gloss over this one. He wouldn't have it. I hope some actually take the time to read this. There's a lot of value in this, and many of his threads.

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    This is the single most important thread in the cess pool sub forum right now....vastly underrated and many are in need of educating themselves on this topic.   Take your heads out of the sand....wake up.....unplug from your matrix....

    My bro Nature is often written off on this site but he's as sharp as a tack and often drops knowledge that is either glossed over or completely disregarded. Third just tried to gloss over this one. He wouldn't have it. I hope some actually take the time to read this. There's a lot of value in this, and many of his threads.

     
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    Thank you stu.

    It shows where are prioriis.

    We need to ban assault style weopons is the new diversion... The other side it's transgender issues a we need to protect our kids from self identification....

     

    In the meantime  former fed chief warns of a complete implosion in us dollars value of we lose world reserve currency and Congress fails to act in raising the debt ceiling.

    https://news.bitcoin.com/former-treasury-official-warns-of-complete-economic-implosion-if-us-dollar-loses-global-reserve-currency-status/

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    Thank you stu.

    It shows where are prioriis.

    We need to ban assault style weopons is the new diversion... The other side it's transgender issues a we need to protect our kids from self identification....

     

    In the meantime  former fed chief warns of a complete implosion in us dollars value of we lose world reserve currency and Congress fails to act in raising the debt ceiling.

    https://news.bitcoin.com/former-treasury-official-warns-of-complete-economic-implosion-if-us-dollar-loses-global-reserve-currency-status/

     
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    Monica Crowley, former Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs for the U.S. Department of the Treasury, explained on Fox News Saturday what would happen if emerging economies move away from the U.S. dollar towards the Chinese yuan and the USD is no longer the world’s dominant currency. She stressed:

     

    It’s really hard to overstate exactly how catastrophic the abandonment of the U.S. dollar would be as the world’s global reserve currency

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    Monica Crowley, former Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs for the U.S. Department of the Treasury, explained on Fox News Saturday what would happen if emerging economies move away from the U.S. dollar towards the Chinese yuan and the USD is no longer the world’s dominant currency. She stressed:

     

    It’s really hard to overstate exactly how catastrophic the abandonment of the U.S. dollar would be as the world’s global reserve currency

     
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    Prevention of collapse of worth buy gold.

    Gold will be worth the same but our dollar devalued will seem gold rose 200© overnight.

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    Prevention of collapse of worth buy gold.

    Gold will be worth the same but our dollar devalued will seem gold rose 200© overnight.

     
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    Be Like being in an outside elevator not realizing your going down and thinking boy those sky scrappers are rising quick....

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    Be Like being in an outside elevator not realizing your going down and thinking boy those sky scrappers are rising quick....

     
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     The dollar got devalued by covid....by the government shutting it down and printing money for everyone including the stock market...which is why the market went into that crazy over-extended bubble which it is still in...imo..

     

    Also the dollar taking a beating by how much is  being handed to Ukraine....just means they will print more of it...and hence devalue it...imo

     

    I don't think we are close to the reserve currency being replaced, we are closer than the last couple decades but still a ways off imo...

     

    Couldn't agree more that MAGA played right into china/russia hand....basically pocket aces for them......completely divided the american people and gave the media easy fodder which allowed/made them ignore other issues that didn't involve dems vs gop,  which dominated the news cycle since Trump got elected....cause at the end of the day all the media care about is viewership numbers and advertisement dollars...

    looks like we are getting Trump again in 2024 as I can't see Biden beating him again 

     

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     The dollar got devalued by covid....by the government shutting it down and printing money for everyone including the stock market...which is why the market went into that crazy over-extended bubble which it is still in...imo..

     

    Also the dollar taking a beating by how much is  being handed to Ukraine....just means they will print more of it...and hence devalue it...imo

     

    I don't think we are close to the reserve currency being replaced, we are closer than the last couple decades but still a ways off imo...

     

    Couldn't agree more that MAGA played right into china/russia hand....basically pocket aces for them......completely divided the american people and gave the media easy fodder which allowed/made them ignore other issues that didn't involve dems vs gop,  which dominated the news cycle since Trump got elected....cause at the end of the day all the media care about is viewership numbers and advertisement dollars...

    looks like we are getting Trump again in 2024 as I can't see Biden beating him again 

     

    goodthread

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: This is the single most important thread in the cess pool sub forum right now....vastly underrated and many are in need of educating themselves on this topic.   Take your heads out of the sand....wake up.....unplug from your matrix.... My bro Nature is often written off on this site but he's as sharp as a tack and often drops knowledge that is either glossed over or completely disregarded. Third just tried to gloss over this one. He wouldn't have it. I hope some actually take the time to read this. There's a lot of value in this, and many of his threads.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: This is the single most important thread in the cess pool sub forum right now....vastly underrated and many are in need of educating themselves on this topic.   Take your heads out of the sand....wake up.....unplug from your matrix.... My bro Nature is often written off on this site but he's as sharp as a tack and often drops knowledge that is either glossed over or completely disregarded. Third just tried to gloss over this one. He wouldn't have it. I hope some actually take the time to read this. There's a lot of value in this, and many of his threads.

     

    an_lightan_lightan_light

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    This is why , Russia and china contribute to both party campaigns to keep the friction here. Chinese through anonymous donations can contribute to pacs to influence elections here. As does Russia. By keeping America divided then Russia and china , are gaining huge influence across the globe. We are weakened by our house divided and they fill the power vacuum. Trump played into their hands by his isolation statwgy make America great again and the America first platform withdrawal of support for world accords and lack of any leader here has given other nations a need to look beyond America ... So now the alliance is rebuilt China Russian relations are better than they have been since Nixon was in office. Saudi Arabia Iran the middle east Brazil Argentina Africa are looking for investors from China and Moscow. We are continuing to drop the ball. And china is becoming the new leader in the free world. This continued blocking of house and Senate leadership has led to very high inflation rates. Where china has a inflation rate of 2% their money grows in value.  They are buying gold to back their currency. We are on the edge of defaulting in loans. They states a new world order is emerging and They are stating it publicly... So what's the news... 6 people tragically died in a shooting at a private school.... Well 20 are gunned down every day in Chicago. And a life is lost every tenth of a second here. Every thousandths of a second world wide. So it jams our news feeds so the real story can be hidden. China is becoming the lead nation of this world. And we are being duped. Ukraine had one of the toughest gun laws ... No one but a small group and public safety could.own a pistol. When the invasion of their country began Russia roles unexpended to Kyiv and then Ukraine has pushed them back to eastern Ukraine which has been in a civil war since the western friendly presidents took control.  2014. Now some how USA and allies have pressured Zelensky to not accept a treaty without taken back crimeria. Except the west Germany France Spain and European union is beginning to discuss these things with China . We have effectively been neutralized as a world leader and it takes our government to unbunch their panties and wake up to we need to prioritize orur foreign and domestic policy to help all of America not red states or blue states but all Americans and rise again to have a voice in world affairs. Our alliances are with united kingdom Canada Japan Israel . The European union is now a neutral. Country... The rest of world looks to China for leadership.

     

    Spitting truths that they don't want to hear..... this should be pinned as education at the top of the forum peace_5  

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    This is why , Russia and china contribute to both party campaigns to keep the friction here. Chinese through anonymous donations can contribute to pacs to influence elections here. As does Russia. By keeping America divided then Russia and china , are gaining huge influence across the globe. We are weakened by our house divided and they fill the power vacuum. Trump played into their hands by his isolation statwgy make America great again and the America first platform withdrawal of support for world accords and lack of any leader here has given other nations a need to look beyond America ... So now the alliance is rebuilt China Russian relations are better than they have been since Nixon was in office. Saudi Arabia Iran the middle east Brazil Argentina Africa are looking for investors from China and Moscow. We are continuing to drop the ball. And china is becoming the new leader in the free world. This continued blocking of house and Senate leadership has led to very high inflation rates. Where china has a inflation rate of 2% their money grows in value.  They are buying gold to back their currency. We are on the edge of defaulting in loans. They states a new world order is emerging and They are stating it publicly... So what's the news... 6 people tragically died in a shooting at a private school.... Well 20 are gunned down every day in Chicago. And a life is lost every tenth of a second here. Every thousandths of a second world wide. So it jams our news feeds so the real story can be hidden. China is becoming the lead nation of this world. And we are being duped. Ukraine had one of the toughest gun laws ... No one but a small group and public safety could.own a pistol. When the invasion of their country began Russia roles unexpended to Kyiv and then Ukraine has pushed them back to eastern Ukraine which has been in a civil war since the western friendly presidents took control.  2014. Now some how USA and allies have pressured Zelensky to not accept a treaty without taken back crimeria. Except the west Germany France Spain and European union is beginning to discuss these things with China . We have effectively been neutralized as a world leader and it takes our government to unbunch their panties and wake up to we need to prioritize orur foreign and domestic policy to help all of America not red states or blue states but all Americans and rise again to have a voice in world affairs. Our alliances are with united kingdom Canada Japan Israel . The European union is now a neutral. Country... The rest of world looks to China for leadership.

     

    Spitting truths that they don't want to hear..... this should be pinned as education at the top of the forum peace_5  

    Wake up America.....wake up.... 

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