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    CNN Found Guilty In Lawsuit, $30M Penalty Advances For Knowingly Publishing Fake News Hit Job

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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2017 - 3:43 PM ET #1

    It started on June 15, 2015. CNN did an expose on St Mary’s Medical Center in West Palm Beach, Florida. The segment aired on Anderson Cooper’s 360 Degrees; reporting was done by medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen.

    The story centered around the infant heart surgery program. It said the infant mortality rate was stunning, three times the national average as compiled by the Society of Thoracic Surgeons (STS). CNN interviewed several families who have lost children or have had unsuccessful operations with long-term effects, and featured heart-wrenching stories of families that were devastated by the alleged malpractice.

    According to former CEO Davide Carbone, that just was not true. He has filed a 200-page $30 million defamation lawsuit against the network. He said the network aired a “series of false and defamatory news reports,” and “intentionally” manipulated the statistics. In particular, he claimed, the “three times the national average,” statement was a straight out lie.

    The statistic, the Washington Post reports, was derived by only studying open heart surgeries, while the national mortality rate includes both open and closed heart surgeries. Further, CNN’s figures only focused on the work of the chief surgeon Michael Black. Then they compared those numbers to the national average comprised of the complete work of a full pediatric staff.

    “By knowingly comparing a mortality rate for Dr. Black based only on open-heart surgeries to a mortality rate based on both open-heart and closed-heart surgeries, the CNN Defendants knowingly and artificially inflated Dr. Black’s mortality rate vis-à-vis the STS national average,” reads the complaint. “A true and fair comparison would require an apples-to-apples comparison of Dr. Black’s mortality rate for both open- and closed-heart surgeries to the STS national average.”
    Further, the CNN report only includes a raw death number. But the STS keeps a “risk-adjusted” figure which takes into account the health of a patient when they enter. Hospitals that treat higher risk patients, have higher mortality rates. This is part because of the condition itself and that it’s going more expensive and more complex to treat them.

    Carbone also claims the network purposely ignored information that would make the story two-sided, or favorable, in order to add more glitz to the piece. The lawsuit complains that Carbone wasn’t given an adequate chance to respond. The camera shows the reporter ambushing Carbone outside his house and blankly asking for the death rate, a statistic that the hospital typically does not publish. Carbone was unprepared to comment and therefore declined. That was his only chance to defend himself. The lawsuit reads:

    “The CNN Defendants did not intend to obtain information for their story from Mr. Carbone when [reporter Elizabeth Cohen] and a CNN camera crew ambushed him and his wife at their home. Rather, the CNN Defendants intended to obtain footage for their story that would falsely portray Mr. Carbone and, by implication, St. Mary’s and Dr. Black, as unwilling to provide information about the Program.”

    The result was devastating to the hospital. The hospital closed the pediatric heart surgery program, claiming that “inaccurate media reports” would make it difficult to “build sustainable volume.” Carbone resigned in August and claimed he has been unable to find work in hospital administration.

    CNN still claims innocence. CNN’s legal team e-mailed St. Mary’s lawyer stating, “Arguing that we should use a set of figures more favorable to your client may be a basis for criticism, which CNN has been transparent about, but it does not render CNN’s reporting false nor in any way irresponsible or malicious.”

    CNN filed in an Atlanta court to have the case dismissed, as a SLAPP (Strategic lawsuit against public participation)suit. However, on February 15, the case was heard by federal judge Orinda Evans in Atlanta, Georgia. Judge Evans overruled the network, allowing the case to proceed. She said that Carbone had presented enough evidence that suggest that the network, “was acting recklessly with regard to the accuracy of its reporting.” She ruled that the personal interviews with parents were fine, but that the statistics they presented were in fact, subject to libel claim.

    Carbone’s lawyer, Lin Wood said in a statement, “False and defamatory accusations against real people have serious consequences. Neither St. Mary’s or Mr. Carbone did anything to deserve being the objects of the heinous accusation that they harmed or put babies and young children at risk for profit.”

    It is important to note that this early in the game win, the ruling is only that the suit has merit. The final ruling will be up to the jury. But, Wood said, it is a great victory against unfair media coverage.

    “The ruling,” he said, “serves as a well-reasoned reminder that the media, its defense lawyers and its lobbyists do not have a corner on the market of correct interpretation and application of the First Amendment.”

    With the liberal bias in the media constantly underscoring the political climate, a victory against the nation’s premier journalist may remind other journalists, and so called “fake news” outlets, to be more responsible with their reporting.

    https://conservativedailypost.com/cnn-found-guilty-in-lawsuit-must-now-pay-30m-for-knowingly-publishing-fake-news-hit-job/?utm_source=Email&utm_campaign=01_March-1&utm_medium=Aweber

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    It started on June 15, 2015. CNN did an expose on St Mary’s Medical Center in West Palm Beach, Florida. The segment aired on Anderson Cooper’s 360 Degrees; reporting was done by medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen.

    The story centered around the infant heart surgery program. It said the infant mortality rate was stunning, three times the national average as compiled by the Society of Thoracic Surgeons (STS). CNN interviewed several families who have lost children or have had unsuccessful operations with long-term effects, and featured heart-wrenching stories of families that were devastated by the alleged malpractice.

    According to former CEO Davide Carbone, that just was not true. He has filed a 200-page $30 million defamation lawsuit against the network. He said the network aired a “series of false and defamatory news reports,” and “intentionally” manipulated the statistics. In particular, he claimed, the “three times the national average,” statement was a straight out lie.

    The statistic, the Washington Post reports, was derived by only studying open heart surgeries, while the national mortality rate includes both open and closed heart surgeries. Further, CNN’s figures only focused on the work of the chief surgeon Michael Black. Then they compared those numbers to the national average comprised of the complete work of a full pediatric staff.

    “By knowingly comparing a mortality rate for Dr. Black based only on open-heart surgeries to a mortality rate based on both open-heart and closed-heart surgeries, the CNN Defendants knowingly and artificially inflated Dr. Black’s mortality rate vis-à-vis the STS national average,” reads the complaint. “A true and fair comparison would require an apples-to-apples comparison of Dr. Black’s mortality rate for both open- and closed-heart surgeries to the STS national average.”
    Further, the CNN report only includes a raw death number. But the STS keeps a “risk-adjusted” figure which takes into account the health of a patient when they enter. Hospitals that treat higher risk patients, have higher mortality rates. This is part because of the condition itself and that it’s going more expensive and more complex to treat them.

    Carbone also claims the network purposely ignored information that would make the story two-sided, or favorable, in order to add more glitz to the piece. The lawsuit complains that Carbone wasn’t given an adequate chance to respond. The camera shows the reporter ambushing Carbone outside his house and blankly asking for the death rate, a statistic that the hospital typically does not publish. Carbone was unprepared to comment and therefore declined. That was his only chance to defend himself. The lawsuit reads:

    “The CNN Defendants did not intend to obtain information for their story from Mr. Carbone when [reporter Elizabeth Cohen] and a CNN camera crew ambushed him and his wife at their home. Rather, the CNN Defendants intended to obtain footage for their story that would falsely portray Mr. Carbone and, by implication, St. Mary’s and Dr. Black, as unwilling to provide information about the Program.”

    The result was devastating to the hospital. The hospital closed the pediatric heart surgery program, claiming that “inaccurate media reports” would make it difficult to “build sustainable volume.” Carbone resigned in August and claimed he has been unable to find work in hospital administration.

    CNN still claims innocence. CNN’s legal team e-mailed St. Mary’s lawyer stating, “Arguing that we should use a set of figures more favorable to your client may be a basis for criticism, which CNN has been transparent about, but it does not render CNN’s reporting false nor in any way irresponsible or malicious.”

    CNN filed in an Atlanta court to have the case dismissed, as a SLAPP (Strategic lawsuit against public participation)suit. However, on February 15, the case was heard by federal judge Orinda Evans in Atlanta, Georgia. Judge Evans overruled the network, allowing the case to proceed. She said that Carbone had presented enough evidence that suggest that the network, “was acting recklessly with regard to the accuracy of its reporting.” She ruled that the personal interviews with parents were fine, but that the statistics they presented were in fact, subject to libel claim.

    Carbone’s lawyer, Lin Wood said in a statement, “False and defamatory accusations against real people have serious consequences. Neither St. Mary’s or Mr. Carbone did anything to deserve being the objects of the heinous accusation that they harmed or put babies and young children at risk for profit.”

    It is important to note that this early in the game win, the ruling is only that the suit has merit. The final ruling will be up to the jury. But, Wood said, it is a great victory against unfair media coverage.

    “The ruling,” he said, “serves as a well-reasoned reminder that the media, its defense lawyers and its lobbyists do not have a corner on the market of correct interpretation and application of the First Amendment.”

    With the liberal bias in the media constantly underscoring the political climate, a victory against the nation’s premier journalist may remind other journalists, and so called “fake news” outlets, to be more responsible with their reporting.

    https://conservativedailypost.com/cnn-found-guilty-in-lawsuit-must-now-pay-30m-for-knowingly-publishing-fake-news-hit-job/?utm_source=Email&utm_campaign=01_March-1&utm_medium=Aweber

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2017 - 3:44 PM ET #2

    Lol,you never want to bring up the truth    
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    Lol,you never want to bring up the truth    
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2017 - 3:51 PM ET #3

    CNN is something else. Trump will destroy them all by himself. They have no credibility. They are fake news. I'm sorry. They are very fake news. Jake Tapper needs to go away along with Chris Cuomo.
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    CNN is something else. Trump will destroy them all by himself. They have no credibility. They are fake news. I'm sorry. They are very fake news. Jake Tapper needs to go away along with Chris Cuomo.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2017 - 4:34 PM ET #4

    Thats right up there with trumps fraud lawsuit. 

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/18/trump-university-related-lawsuits-settled-for-25-million.html

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    Thats right up there with trumps fraud lawsuit. 

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/18/trump-university-related-lawsuits-settled-for-25-million.html

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2017 - 4:37 PM ET #5

    CNN has been deceiving America and the  world for a long time. Basically unwatchable from Cuomo and Allyson in the morning  through Don Lemon at night. Shocked Van Jones applauded Trump's speech. Tour de force aligning in 2020. Trump vs Oprah! 
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    CNN has been deceiving America and the  world for a long time. Basically unwatchable from Cuomo and Allyson in the morning  through Don Lemon at night. Shocked Van Jones applauded Trump's speech. Tour de force aligning in 2020. Trump vs Oprah! 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    CNN has been deceiving America and the  world for a long time. Basically unwatchable from Cuomo and Allyson in the morning  through Don Lemon at night. Shocked Van Jones applauded Trump's speech. Tour de force aligning in 2020. Trump vs Oprah! 

    By the way, I know facts elude you right wingers, but there has been no verdict in this case . The ruling is that the case has merit, that's not a verdict .From the article
    It is important to note that this early in the game win, the ruling is only that the suit has merit. The final ruling will be up to the jury. But, Wood said, it is a great victory against unfair media coverage.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    CNN has been deceiving America and the  world for a long time. Basically unwatchable from Cuomo and Allyson in the morning  through Don Lemon at night. Shocked Van Jones applauded Trump's speech. Tour de force aligning in 2020. Trump vs Oprah! 

    By the way, I know facts elude you right wingers, but there has been no verdict in this case . The ruling is that the case has merit, that's not a verdict .From the article
    It is important to note that this early in the game win, the ruling is only that the suit has merit. The final ruling will be up to the jury. But, Wood said, it is a great victory against unfair media coverage.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2017 - 5:03 PM ET #7

    easy there zelo.  first, there's no finding of guilt in civil cases.  secondly, this case just passed a very early hurdle with a very low standard.  it's basically, the case might be bullshit, but it's not so obviously bullshit at this early stage before most of the facts come out that we'll let it go forward and see what happens. 


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    easy there zelo.  first, there's no finding of guilt in civil cases.  secondly, this case just passed a very early hurdle with a very low standard.  it's basically, the case might be bullshit, but it's not so obviously bullshit at this early stage before most of the facts come out that we'll let it go forward and see what happens. 


     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2017 - 1:29 AM ET #8

    Conservativedailypost is a fake news website according to politifact, fakenewschecker and mediabiasfactchecks.  Snopes rated FALSE the claim that a judge ruled CNN is fake news.
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    Conservativedailypost is a fake news website according to politifact, fakenewschecker and mediabiasfactchecks.  Snopes rated FALSE the claim that a judge ruled CNN is fake news.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2017 - 10:32 PM ET #9

    People posting fake news to prove CNN is fake news. That says it all. This country is doomed. 
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    People posting fake news to prove CNN is fake news. That says it all. This country is doomed. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdr016:

    People posting fake news to prove CNN is fake news. That says it all. This country is doomed. 
    so CNN Gallup poll in November pronounced Hillary will win 60-40 in general and electorate....
    01nov2016 that was the real news CNN was spewing on Anderson show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdr016:

    People posting fake news to prove CNN is fake news. That says it all. This country is doomed. 
    so CNN Gallup poll in November pronounced Hillary will win 60-40 in general and electorate....
    01nov2016 that was the real news CNN was spewing on Anderson show.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2017 - 9:22 AM ET #11

    So you are using an election PROJECTION to cite CNN as being "fake news"? 

    They weren't the only ones that were wrong about the election. All of the closet racists around the country came out to vote for Trump and weren't accounted for in any projections.


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    So you are using an election PROJECTION to cite CNN as being "fake news"? 

    They weren't the only ones that were wrong about the election. All of the closet racists around the country came out to vote for Trump and weren't accounted for in any projections.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2017 - 9:33 AM ET #12

    You do realize most cable stations and television shows are "unwatched" by that type of %? 

    Hell, 50% of the country didn't watch the Super Bowl. I guess the game was rigged.


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    You do realize most cable stations and television shows are "unwatched" by that type of %? 

    Hell, 50% of the country didn't watch the Super Bowl. I guess the game was rigged.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2017 - 11:32 AM ET #13

    Jdr016 is right,  A wrong projection doesn't prove CNN provided fake news.  Normally, polls aren'talways perfect in predicting the future.  Majority of Americans still trust CNN and mainstream media but not social media and small websites where most fake news come from.
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    Jdr016 is right,  A wrong projection doesn't prove CNN provided fake news.  Normally, polls aren'talways perfect in predicting the future.  Majority of Americans still trust CNN and mainstream media but not social media and small websites where most fake news come from.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    so CNN Gallup poll in November pronounced Hillary will win 60-40 in general and electorate....
    01nov2016 that was the real news CNN was spewing on Anderson show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    so CNN Gallup poll in November pronounced Hillary will win 60-40 in general and electorate....
    01nov2016 that was the real news CNN was spewing on Anderson show.

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