Deaths from Covid-19 are likely undercounted, WHO says
From CNN Health’s Amanda Watts
“What we do know very, VERY clearly, is that there has been more mortality during this period then the numbers from Covid-19 alone tell us," Dr. Bruce Aylward, senior adviser to the director-general at WHO.
“That's extremely important,” Aylward added. “Some of that excess mortality is probably Covid disease that was not recognized or reported.”
Maria Van Kerkhove, a WHO infectious disease epidemiologist, said it’s still too early to make absolute conclusions, “but I think it is important to recognize that deaths from Covid are likely to be undercounted at the present time.”
Van Kerkhove said there are deaths “that we know are associated with Covid-19 from infection and are tracked in real time, as they occur.” And then then are deaths that will be “identified as we retrospectively look [back],” she said.
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Deaths from Covid-19 are likely undercounted, WHO says
From CNN Health’s Amanda Watts
“What we do know very, VERY clearly, is that there has been more mortality during this period then the numbers from Covid-19 alone tell us," Dr. Bruce Aylward, senior adviser to the director-general at WHO.
“That's extremely important,” Aylward added. “Some of that excess mortality is probably Covid disease that was not recognized or reported.”
Maria Van Kerkhove, a WHO infectious disease epidemiologist, said it’s still too early to make absolute conclusions, “but I think it is important to recognize that deaths from Covid are likely to be undercounted at the present time.”
Van Kerkhove said there are deaths “that we know are associated with Covid-19 from infection and are tracked in real time, as they occur.” And then then are deaths that will be “identified as we retrospectively look [back],” she said.
Masks would help prevent a surge in deaths by the New Year, Fauci says
From CNN's Jen Christensen
Correct use of masks would help the country prevent the “scary” number of predicted Covid-19 deaths, Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN today.
A model often cited by top health officials now predicts more than 410,000 people could die of coronavirus in the US by Jan. 1.
Fauci said people should keep in mind that models depend on the assumptions that go into them, but he said such a high number of deaths is possible.
“We don’t want to get to that number by any stretch of the imagination,” the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said. “So what are we going to do to prevent us from getting that number?”
Fauci stressed “one of the things we can do is a more uniform utilization of masks.”
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Masks would help prevent a surge in deaths by the New Year, Fauci says
From CNN's Jen Christensen
Correct use of masks would help the country prevent the “scary” number of predicted Covid-19 deaths, Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN today.
A model often cited by top health officials now predicts more than 410,000 people could die of coronavirus in the US by Jan. 1.
Fauci said people should keep in mind that models depend on the assumptions that go into them, but he said such a high number of deaths is possible.
“We don’t want to get to that number by any stretch of the imagination,” the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said. “So what are we going to do to prevent us from getting that number?”
Fauci stressed “one of the things we can do is a more uniform utilization of masks.”
U.S. closes in on grim pandemic milestone: the 200,000th COVID-19 death NBC One new death has been recorded every 106 seconds over the last seven days "We've done a great job with COVID," Trump said Tuesday Source: https://tinyurl.com/yxu5btw5
we still remember trump assuring all of America that we only had 15 cases and it would soon be zero
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U.S. closes in on grim pandemic milestone: the 200,000th COVID-19 death NBC One new death has been recorded every 106 seconds over the last seven days "We've done a great job with COVID," Trump said Tuesday Source: https://tinyurl.com/yxu5btw5
we still remember trump assuring all of America that we only had 15 cases and it would soon be zero
Wheres the south korea - hong kong statistic??????????????????????????????????????????????????? You need to put it up for the 10,001st time!
Korea contained the pandemic. Brazilian government went with herd immunity.
This virus is not prejudice is does not care of age or prexistant condition it is not political or have any bearing of sciences. It kills rodents pigs fowl and wildlife it feeds consumed and transmitted through evaporation.
The virus is just clearing it's throat. Some mutations are benign some are more deadly.
The virus will continue to infect transmit and reinfect.
Trump is as worthless as a hind for on a bull in stopping it's spread.
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Wheres the south korea - hong kong statistic??????????????????????????????????????????????????? You need to put it up for the 10,001st time!
Korea contained the pandemic. Brazilian government went with herd immunity.
This virus is not prejudice is does not care of age or prexistant condition it is not political or have any bearing of sciences. It kills rodents pigs fowl and wildlife it feeds consumed and transmitted through evaporation.
The virus is just clearing it's throat. Some mutations are benign some are more deadly.
The virus will continue to infect transmit and reinfect.
Trump is as worthless as a hind for on a bull in stopping it's spread.
Bill Gates blasts Trump over ‘shocking’ mismanagement of pandemic response
Bill Gates said in a recent interview with STAT that the pandemic has been mismanaged from the very beginning.
“You know, this has been a mismanaged situation every step of the way,” Gates said. “It’s shocking. It’s unbelievable — the fact that we would be among the worst in the world.” Gates also highlighted a number of issues involved with COVID-19 testing procedures, from the delays associated with returning test results to the actual testing procedure itself. Source: https://tinyurl.com/yywupn6j
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Bill Gates blasts Trump over ‘shocking’ mismanagement of pandemic response
Bill Gates said in a recent interview with STAT that the pandemic has been mismanaged from the very beginning.
“You know, this has been a mismanaged situation every step of the way,” Gates said. “It’s shocking. It’s unbelievable — the fact that we would be among the worst in the world.” Gates also highlighted a number of issues involved with COVID-19 testing procedures, from the delays associated with returning test results to the actual testing procedure itself. Source: https://tinyurl.com/yywupn6j
Bill Gates blasts Trump over ‘shocking’ mismanagement of pandemic response Bill Gates said in a recent interview with STAT that the pandemic has been mismanaged from the very beginning. “You know, this has been a mismanaged situation every step of the way,” Gates said. “It’s shocking. It’s unbelievable — the fact that we would be among the worst in the world.” Gates also highlighted a number of issues involved with COVID-19 testing procedures, from the delays associated with returning test results to the actual testing procedure itself.Source: https://tinyurl.com/yywupn6j
gates is right
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Bill Gates blasts Trump over ‘shocking’ mismanagement of pandemic response Bill Gates said in a recent interview with STAT that the pandemic has been mismanaged from the very beginning. “You know, this has been a mismanaged situation every step of the way,” Gates said. “It’s shocking. It’s unbelievable — the fact that we would be among the worst in the world.” Gates also highlighted a number of issues involved with COVID-19 testing procedures, from the delays associated with returning test results to the actual testing procedure itself.Source: https://tinyurl.com/yywupn6j
Masks would help prevent a surge in deaths by the New Year, Fauci says
From CNN's Jen Christensen
Correct use of masks would help the country prevent the “scary” number of predicted Covid-19 deaths, Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN today.
A model often cited by top health officials now predicts more than 410,000 people could die of coronavirus in the US by Jan. 1.
Fauci said people should keep in mind that models depend on the assumptions that go into them, but he said such a high number of deaths is possible.
“We don’t want to get to that number by any stretch of the imagination,” the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said. “So what are we going to do to prevent us from getting that number?”
Fauci stressed “one of the things we can do is a more uniform utilization of masks.”
problem is that only applies to intelligent people
the rest wont wear masks
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Masks would help prevent a surge in deaths by the New Year, Fauci says
From CNN's Jen Christensen
Correct use of masks would help the country prevent the “scary” number of predicted Covid-19 deaths, Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN today.
A model often cited by top health officials now predicts more than 410,000 people could die of coronavirus in the US by Jan. 1.
Fauci said people should keep in mind that models depend on the assumptions that go into them, but he said such a high number of deaths is possible.
“We don’t want to get to that number by any stretch of the imagination,” the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said. “So what are we going to do to prevent us from getting that number?”
Fauci stressed “one of the things we can do is a more uniform utilization of masks.”
problem is that only applies to intelligent people
This virus is not prejudice is does not care of age or prexistant condition it is not political or have any bearing of sciences. It kills rodents pigs fowl and wildlife it feeds consumed and transmitted through evaporation. The virus is just clearing it's throat. Some mutations are benign some are more deadly. The virus will continue to infect transmit and reinfect. Trump is as worthless as a hind for on a bull in stopping it's spread.
true
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Korea contained the pandemic.
Brazilian government went with herd immunity.
This virus is not prejudice is does not care of age or prexistant condition it is not political or have any bearing of sciences. It kills rodents pigs fowl and wildlife it feeds consumed and transmitted through evaporation. The virus is just clearing it's throat. Some mutations are benign some are more deadly. The virus will continue to infect transmit and reinfect. Trump is as worthless as a hind for on a bull in stopping it's spread.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Masks would help prevent a surge in deaths by the New Year, Fauci says From CNN's Jen Christensen Correct use of masks would help the country prevent the “scary” number of predicted Covid-19 deaths, Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN today. A model often cited by top health officials now predicts more than 410,000 people could die of coronavirus in the US by Jan. 1. Fauci said people should keep in mind that models depend on the assumptions that go into them, but he said such a high number of deaths is possible. “We don’t want to get to that number by any stretch of the imagination,” the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said. “So what are we going to do to prevent us from getting that number?” Fauci stressed “one of the things we can do is a more uniform utilization of masks.”
problem is that only applies to intelligent people the rest wont wear masks
Well that is the bottom line.
The pandemic will persist as long as idiots refuse to prevent the spread from their own mouths.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Masks would help prevent a surge in deaths by the New Year, Fauci says From CNN's Jen Christensen Correct use of masks would help the country prevent the “scary” number of predicted Covid-19 deaths, Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN today. A model often cited by top health officials now predicts more than 410,000 people could die of coronavirus in the US by Jan. 1. Fauci said people should keep in mind that models depend on the assumptions that go into them, but he said such a high number of deaths is possible. “We don’t want to get to that number by any stretch of the imagination,” the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said. “So what are we going to do to prevent us from getting that number?” Fauci stressed “one of the things we can do is a more uniform utilization of masks.”
problem is that only applies to intelligent people the rest wont wear masks
Well that is the bottom line.
The pandemic will persist as long as idiots refuse to prevent the spread from their own mouths.
The true number of coronavirus deaths in the US “is well over" 250,000, former CDC director says Article: https://tinyurl.com/y2r3qncb
There were 20% more deaths than expected in the US from March to August, research finds
There were 20% more deaths than expected in the US from March 1 through August 1, with Covid-19 officially accounting for about two-thirds of them, according to new research published Monday in the medical journal JAMA.
“Although total US death counts are remarkably consistent from year to year, US deaths increased by 20% during March–July 2020,” said the research, authored by Dr. Steven Woolf and colleagues at the Virginia Commonwealth School of Medicine. “Covid-19 was a documented cause of only 67% of these excess deaths.”
There were at least 1,336,561 deaths in the US between March 1 and August 1, the study said – a 20% increase over what would normally be expected. Source: https://tinyurl.com/yyrp83go
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The true number of coronavirus deaths in the US “is well over" 250,000, former CDC director says Article: https://tinyurl.com/y2r3qncb
There were 20% more deaths than expected in the US from March to August, research finds
There were 20% more deaths than expected in the US from March 1 through August 1, with Covid-19 officially accounting for about two-thirds of them, according to new research published Monday in the medical journal JAMA.
“Although total US death counts are remarkably consistent from year to year, US deaths increased by 20% during March–July 2020,” said the research, authored by Dr. Steven Woolf and colleagues at the Virginia Commonwealth School of Medicine. “Covid-19 was a documented cause of only 67% of these excess deaths.”
There were at least 1,336,561 deaths in the US between March 1 and August 1, the study said – a 20% increase over what would normally be expected. Source: https://tinyurl.com/yyrp83go
The true number of coronavirus deaths in the US “is well over" 250,000, former CDC director says Article: https://tinyurl.com/y2r3qncb
There were 20% more deaths than expected in the US from March to August, research finds
There were 20% more deaths than expected in the US from March 1 through August 1, with Covid-19 officially accounting for about two-thirds of them, according to new research published Monday in the medical journal JAMA.
“Although total US death counts are remarkably consistent from year to year, US deaths increased by 20% during March–July 2020,” said the research, authored by Dr. Steven Woolf and colleagues at the Virginia Commonwealth School of Medicine. “Covid-19 was a documented cause of only 67% of these excess deaths.”
There were at least 1,336,561 deaths in the US between March 1 and August 1, the study said – a 20% increase over what would normally be expected. Source: https://tinyurl.com/yyrp83go
could be not only undercounted but by a very significant margin
all thx to rump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
The true number of coronavirus deaths in the US “is well over" 250,000, former CDC director says Article: https://tinyurl.com/y2r3qncb
There were 20% more deaths than expected in the US from March to August, research finds
There were 20% more deaths than expected in the US from March 1 through August 1, with Covid-19 officially accounting for about two-thirds of them, according to new research published Monday in the medical journal JAMA.
“Although total US death counts are remarkably consistent from year to year, US deaths increased by 20% during March–July 2020,” said the research, authored by Dr. Steven Woolf and colleagues at the Virginia Commonwealth School of Medicine. “Covid-19 was a documented cause of only 67% of these excess deaths.”
There were at least 1,336,561 deaths in the US between March 1 and August 1, the study said – a 20% increase over what would normally be expected. Source: https://tinyurl.com/yyrp83go
could be not only undercounted but by a very significant margin
Most of these hospitals don’t care about the deaths. They want the free money from the Fed. More deaths equals more money. Every single death in the hospital is counted as a death. My wife knows a family who argued with the hospital over cause of death. They didn’t care. They said COVID even though it wasn’t.
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Most of these hospitals don’t care about the deaths. They want the free money from the Fed. More deaths equals more money. Every single death in the hospital is counted as a death. My wife knows a family who argued with the hospital over cause of death. They didn’t care. They said COVID even though it wasn’t.
About 75,000 MORE in US died from COVID-19 than reported in spring and summer, study finds
USA TODAY Researchers at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond found nearly 75,000 more people may have died from the pandemic than what was recorded in March to July, according to the report published Monday in the peer-reviewed journal JAMA.
“There have been some conspiracy theories that the number of deaths from COVID-19 have been exaggerated,” said Dr. Steven Woolf, director emeritus of the Center on Society and Health at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond. “The opposite is the case. We’re actually experiencing more death than we thought we were.”
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About 75,000 MORE in US died from COVID-19 than reported in spring and summer, study finds
USA TODAY Researchers at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond found nearly 75,000 more people may have died from the pandemic than what was recorded in March to July, according to the report published Monday in the peer-reviewed journal JAMA.
“There have been some conspiracy theories that the number of deaths from COVID-19 have been exaggerated,” said Dr. Steven Woolf, director emeritus of the Center on Society and Health at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond. “The opposite is the case. We’re actually experiencing more death than we thought we were.”
There have been some conspiracy theories that the number of deaths from COVID-19 have been exaggerated, The opposite is the case.
Public health experts agree with Fubah2. In 2020, there has been a huge increase in excess deaths compared to previous years. Mostly covid deaths account for the difference because of little change in heart disease, flu, cancer and other causes of death. US center for disease control acknowledges undercounting of covid deaths are more likely because it only counts cases confirmed by lab tests. Many people who die at home or have no symptoms aren't tested.
Claims of overcount in covid deaths have been debunked by fact checkers politifact, USAtoday. snopes and factcheck.org. While hospitals may receive additional reimbursement, no evidence supports conspiracy theory of doctors lying on death certificates according to Doctor Fauci and National association of medical examiners. Doctors follow guidelines for certifying deaths from National center for health statistics. Guidelines don't artifically inflate covid death toll. Only 5% of certificates list coronavirus as immediate cause of death. 95% list coronavirus as underlying condition that led to death.
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There have been some conspiracy theories that the number of deaths from COVID-19 have been exaggerated, The opposite is the case.
Public health experts agree with Fubah2. In 2020, there has been a huge increase in excess deaths compared to previous years. Mostly covid deaths account for the difference because of little change in heart disease, flu, cancer and other causes of death. US center for disease control acknowledges undercounting of covid deaths are more likely because it only counts cases confirmed by lab tests. Many people who die at home or have no symptoms aren't tested.
Claims of overcount in covid deaths have been debunked by fact checkers politifact, USAtoday. snopes and factcheck.org. While hospitals may receive additional reimbursement, no evidence supports conspiracy theory of doctors lying on death certificates according to Doctor Fauci and National association of medical examiners. Doctors follow guidelines for certifying deaths from National center for health statistics. Guidelines don't artifically inflate covid death toll. Only 5% of certificates list coronavirus as immediate cause of death. 95% list coronavirus as underlying condition that led to death.
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