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Economically, Could Obama Be America's Best President?

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14daroad

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 6:45 PM ET #51

Quote Originally Posted by Stiln:

Let the forum know when you actually decide to provide some real hard evidence reinforcing your faulty claims..

You may want to stop pretending you can refute a single thing I said.

You can't, because they're true.

Of course when someone says "There were more people working in America at the height of the 1982 recession than there are today" then provides a reference saying explicitly: 'U.S. Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest Since 1979' You may want to stop pretending no "evidence" was provided for the claim.

Because when you pretend, people start drawing negative conclusions about you.

14daroad

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 6:50 PM ET #52

Good times:

Recession Officially Over, U.S. Incomes Kept Falling

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/us/recession-officially-over-us-incomes-kept-falling.html?_r=1

Again, great to see the NY Times in on the "no evidence" gag.

Stiln

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 6:53 PM ET #53

Well since I'm not longer interested in hearing you waste my time with faulty evidence and garbage that is not true,

I gotta run and enjoy life.

But you stay here and keep defending your internet honor that you so vehemently argue to the death with the last word..

14daroad

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 6:55 PM ET #54

More Americans than ever using food stamps

A record 47.8 million people are enrolled in the program despite the recession's end and a stronger economy.

https://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?post=e9caf453-75ca-4ad6-ae9d-9b991cd6702f

Even these guys get it:

While the unemployment rate actually has come down from the 10 percent readings it showed in 2009, the amount of participants for the SNAP program has soared.

There were fewer than 31 million people on food stamps as recently as November 2008, but an aggressive effort from President Obama's administration has helped build participation, with the total increasing by 44 percent since the president took office in January 2009.

https://www.cnbc.com/id/48898378

Now if those dummies at CNBC only knew there was no evidence for their claims!

14daroad

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 6:56 PM ET #55

Quote Originally Posted by Stiln:

Well since I'm not longer interested in hearing you waste my time with faulty evidence and garbage that is not true,

Everything I said is fact.

Which is why you spent 20 posts trying to obfuscate those facts.

14daroad

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 7:05 PM ET #56

Record number on SSDI. Disabled worker, spouse of disabled worker, child of disabled worker: 10,914,232 - July 2013

Which is 144,080 more than July 2012.

Feb 2009: 9,334,369

https://www.socialsecurity.gov/cgi-bin/currentpay.cgi

Now if only those dummies at the Social Security Administration knew they had no evidence for these claims!

Peraski

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 8:09 PM ET #57

Quote Originally Posted by Stiln:

You have an attitude problem, don't ever address me the way you did.

I didn't even address you (post #7). I just went right into my point which you conveniently avoided. seems like that's you MO.

-the post regarding o Riley's segment on race, you didn't even address the content of the thread. you argued he has speech writers etc. and didn't argue the content. you avoided the issue

-you tell lords you're not affiliated with either party and that supporting a party is dumb. yet I asked you in another thread (which you also avoided) why every thread you make is anti-republican. If you were truly neutral, we would at least see some threads out of you that are in some kind of disagreement to democratic policies. yet in your 26 thread a day average, we haven't seen any criticizing democrats.

-I simply pointed out you made two threads in complete contradiction to each other on post #7. my reply was to dl36 on post 11.

and then you're going demand I address you in a certain way?

you got... just problems in general

dl36

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 8:36 PM ET #58

didnt I say that the rich doing well and the economy doing well together only proves the trickle down theory?

So I guess you are saying that the people who talk trickle down are lying or just too stupid to know they are incorrect... I dont know if I agree with your point... but I do respect your right to make it...

TRAIN69

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Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 9:57 PM ET #59

Somehow the laughing head seemed too easy......

14daroad

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Posted: Jul. 31, 2013 - 11:15 AM ET #60

More than 76,000 workers went on the federal government's disability program in July, according to the latest data from the Social Security administration, bringing the total number of new enrollees this year to 534,038.

Although that is down somewhat from the same month last year, enrollment in the Social Security Disability Insurance program remains sharply higher than it has been historically. Since 2009, an average of about 1 million workers have gone on SSDI annually — a 31% increase from the average enrollment over the previous 10 years.

As a result, a record 8.9 million workers are now collecting disability benefits, which is up 15% since the recovery officially started in mid-2009.

https://news.investors.com/073013-665681-nearly-9-million-workers-now-on-disability.htm

Stiln

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Posted: Jul. 31, 2013 - 11:28 AM ET #61

Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

As a result, a record 8.9 million workers are now collecting disability benefits, which is up 15% since the recovery officially started in mid-2009.

https://news.investors.com/073013-665681-nearly-9-million-workers-now-on-disability.htm

You have issues the way you take to the internet, politics.

Like you think somehow you're accomplishing something here, changing peoples minds, which you're not..

You defending your anonymous internet honor little buddy?

Peraski

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Posted: Jul. 31, 2013 - 11:39 AM ET #62

da road- stiln asks for evidence, completely ignores the content of the argument, and goes on personal attacks. like the links provided by stiln are better evidence than the sources/links you provide? on the post above, you provide statistics and link, and stiln's reply is to demean you personally. then the follow up post by stiln is going to be: 'the little posters coming to your rescue...'. again, completely ignoring the content of the argument and getting personal. stiln- you are fooling no one, and are only exposing yourself as a gigantic tool.

Stiln

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Posted: Jul. 31, 2013 - 11:40 AM ET #63

Quote Originally Posted by Peraski:

da road- stiln asks for evidence, completely ignores the content of the argument, and goes on personal attacks. like the links provided by stiln are better evidence than the sources/links you provide? on the post above, you provide statistics and link, and stiln's reply is to demean you personally. then the follow up post by stiln is going to be: 'the little posters coming to your rescue...'. again, completely ignoring the content of the argument and getting personal. stiln- you are fooling no one, and are only exposing yourself as a gigantic tool.

Huh?

You're an alias..... Wanna guess why that is?

captjohn67

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Posted: Jul. 31, 2013 - 11:47 AM ET #64

chkn dinner

Peraski

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Posted: Jul. 31, 2013 - 12:08 PM ET #65

you should make an alias that creates threads that are in opposition to democratic views, since you 'don't support either party' and are 'neutral'. stiln can be the anti gop poster and (here's a suggestion for your alias: 'takn') can make the threads that are anti democratic. or you can just be 'neutral' like you say you are, and find something worth posting that is anti left wing.

14daroad

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Posted: Jul. 31, 2013 - 4:33 PM ET #66

Of course it is.

Why do you think he reposed an article from May that he already created a thread on?

14daroad

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Posted: Jul. 31, 2013 - 4:35 PM ET #67

Quote Originally Posted by Stiln:

Like you think somehow you're accomplishing something here, changing peoples minds, which you're not..

Since there is not even the most basic attempt to actually think about what is being offered as fact regarding the Obama Presidency, we can see that this, like many, many other posts of yours, is pure projection.

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Economically, Could Obama Be America's Best President?

Recession Officially Over, U.S. Incomes Kept Falling

Recession Officially Over, U.S. Incomes Kept Falling

More Americans than ever using food stamps

A record 47.8 million people are enrolled in the program despite the recession's end and a stronger economy.

More Americans than ever using food stamps

A record 47.8 million people are enrolled in the program despite the recession's end and a stronger economy.

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