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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 8:01 PM ET #26

    See I feel both sides now can come to the table with a common interest. Finding something they can agree with Fairness standards in an election process.

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    See I feel both sides now can come to the table with a common interest. Finding something they can agree with Fairness standards in an election process.

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 8:02 PM ET #27

    Gore was cheated Hillary was robbed Trump was punked.... now both sides tasted from that butter appoint a true discussion may emerge.

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    Gore was cheated Hillary was robbed Trump was punked.... now both sides tasted from that butter appoint a true discussion may emerge.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 8:43 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Its right there in the constitution.... President has responsibility to select Supreme Court judge... Can't blame people dieing during presidency.

    correct

    and Obama should have got  his SCOTUS pick (Garland) but was cheated out of it , which is not right there in the constitutuion

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Its right there in the constitution.... President has responsibility to select Supreme Court judge... Can't blame people dieing during presidency.

    correct

    and Obama should have got  his SCOTUS pick (Garland) but was cheated out of it , which is not right there in the constitutuion

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 9:06 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Its right there in the constitution.... President has responsibility to select Supreme Court judge... Can't blame people dieing during presidency. correct and Obama should have got  his SCOTUS pick (Garland) but was cheated out of it , which is not right there in the constitutuion

    SCOTUS justices will hold lopsided 6-3 in favor of conservatives for at least another two years if Mitch McConnell remains the Senate majority leader. Upcoming Biden administration will be forlorn in terms of SCOTUS majority, or even worse McConnell will make Biden a one term president as his top priority as Mitch claimed it to the President Obama. Also, not clear how many federal judges could Biden fill under McConnell's majority leader role, big fat goose egg, perhaps.     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Its right there in the constitution.... President has responsibility to select Supreme Court judge... Can't blame people dieing during presidency. correct and Obama should have got  his SCOTUS pick (Garland) but was cheated out of it , which is not right there in the constitutuion

    SCOTUS justices will hold lopsided 6-3 in favor of conservatives for at least another two years if Mitch McConnell remains the Senate majority leader. Upcoming Biden administration will be forlorn in terms of SCOTUS majority, or even worse McConnell will make Biden a one term president as his top priority as Mitch claimed it to the President Obama. Also, not clear how many federal judges could Biden fill under McConnell's majority leader role, big fat goose egg, perhaps.     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 9:38 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Its right there in the constitution.... President has responsibility to select Supreme Court judge... Can't blame people dieing during presidency. correct and Obama should have got  his SCOTUS pick (Garland) but was cheated out of it , which is not right there in the constitutuion SCOTUS justices will hold lopsided 6-3 in favor of conservatives for at least another two years if Mitch McConnell remains the Senate majority leader. Upcoming Biden administration will be forlorn in terms of SCOTUS majority, or even worse McConnell will make Biden a one term president as his top priority as Mitch claimed it to the President Obama. Also, not clear how many federal judges could Biden fill under McConnell's majority leader role, big fat goose egg, perhaps.

    Yes.

    I *EXPECT* Osoff and Warnock to put up good fights AGAIN but with the same result.

    Therefore The Grim Reaper will hold the senate hostage AGAIN for another two years minimum.

    Biden is limited from what he can do by executive order to help the American people, but I EXPECT Mitch will block *EVERYTHING* -- literally and figuratively.  trump will keep his following on twitter and in the two newest radical right cable networks and chirp from the peanut gallery. 

    THERE WILL BE GRIDLOCK ONCE AGAIN.

    Nothing significant will get done for the American people when there is a split and VERY DEVISIVE congress.

    NOTHING.

    Now, republicans love this!  Anything that foils a Democrat proposal is fine by them, even if that proposal was backed by say 75% of Americans.   Helping the American people, protecting us from dangers (military, cyber, viral),  improving our ability to compete on the world stage means absolutely nothing to Republicans unless THEY are in charge.   Every Democrat proposal must be defeated.  

    And they will persist in pushing everything they possibly can toward the supreme court.

    Yes, America will lose.  But when they are no longer in charge the Republicans just don't care about that.  All they will care about is thwarting everything from the Democrats.   And people actually cheer this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Its right there in the constitution.... President has responsibility to select Supreme Court judge... Can't blame people dieing during presidency. correct and Obama should have got  his SCOTUS pick (Garland) but was cheated out of it , which is not right there in the constitutuion SCOTUS justices will hold lopsided 6-3 in favor of conservatives for at least another two years if Mitch McConnell remains the Senate majority leader. Upcoming Biden administration will be forlorn in terms of SCOTUS majority, or even worse McConnell will make Biden a one term president as his top priority as Mitch claimed it to the President Obama. Also, not clear how many federal judges could Biden fill under McConnell's majority leader role, big fat goose egg, perhaps.

    Yes.

    I *EXPECT* Osoff and Warnock to put up good fights AGAIN but with the same result.

    Therefore The Grim Reaper will hold the senate hostage AGAIN for another two years minimum.

    Biden is limited from what he can do by executive order to help the American people, but I EXPECT Mitch will block *EVERYTHING* -- literally and figuratively.  trump will keep his following on twitter and in the two newest radical right cable networks and chirp from the peanut gallery. 

    THERE WILL BE GRIDLOCK ONCE AGAIN.

    Nothing significant will get done for the American people when there is a split and VERY DEVISIVE congress.

    NOTHING.

    Now, republicans love this!  Anything that foils a Democrat proposal is fine by them, even if that proposal was backed by say 75% of Americans.   Helping the American people, protecting us from dangers (military, cyber, viral),  improving our ability to compete on the world stage means absolutely nothing to Republicans unless THEY are in charge.   Every Democrat proposal must be defeated.  

    And they will persist in pushing everything they possibly can toward the supreme court.

    Yes, America will lose.  But when they are no longer in charge the Republicans just don't care about that.  All they will care about is thwarting everything from the Democrats.   And people actually cheer this.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 10:19 PM ET #31

    Don't underestimate Biden and his colleagues friendships.

    Senate is a group of colleagues and Ted Cruz.

    But he even embraced the Senate as home after trump DEFEATED him in election.

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    Don't underestimate Biden and his colleagues friendships.

    Senate is a group of colleagues and Ted Cruz.

    But he even embraced the Senate as home after trump DEFEATED him in election.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 10:34 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Yes.

    I *EXPECT* Osoff and Warnock to put up good fights AGAIN but with the same result.

    Therefore The Grim Reaper will hold the senate hostage AGAIN for another two years minimum.

    Biden is limited from what he can do by executive order to help the American people, but I EXPECT Mitch will block *EVERYTHING* -- literally and figuratively.  trump will keep his following on twitter and in the two newest radical right cable networks and chirp from the peanut gallery. 

    THERE WILL BE GRIDLOCK ONCE AGAIN.

    Nothing significant will get done for the American people when there is a split and VERY DEVISIVE congress.

    NOTHING.

    Now, republicans love this!  Anything that foils a Democrat proposal is fine by them, even if that proposal was backed by say 75% of Americans.   Helping the American people, protecting us from dangers (military, cyber, viral),  improving our ability to compete on the world stage means absolutely nothing to Republicans unless THEY are in charge.   Every Democrat proposal must be defeated.  

    And they will persist in pushing everything they possibly can toward the supreme court.

    Yes, America will lose.  But when they are no longer in charge the Republicans just don't care about that.  All they will care about is thwarting everything from the Democrats.   And people actually cheer this.

     

    kinda grim way of looking at it all  confused

     

    basically   u  r   saying becuz of rump and the georgia voters  we   r   f--ked for the foreseeable future

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Yes.

    I *EXPECT* Osoff and Warnock to put up good fights AGAIN but with the same result.

    Therefore The Grim Reaper will hold the senate hostage AGAIN for another two years minimum.

    Biden is limited from what he can do by executive order to help the American people, but I EXPECT Mitch will block *EVERYTHING* -- literally and figuratively.  trump will keep his following on twitter and in the two newest radical right cable networks and chirp from the peanut gallery. 

    THERE WILL BE GRIDLOCK ONCE AGAIN.

    Nothing significant will get done for the American people when there is a split and VERY DEVISIVE congress.

    NOTHING.

    Now, republicans love this!  Anything that foils a Democrat proposal is fine by them, even if that proposal was backed by say 75% of Americans.   Helping the American people, protecting us from dangers (military, cyber, viral),  improving our ability to compete on the world stage means absolutely nothing to Republicans unless THEY are in charge.   Every Democrat proposal must be defeated.  

    And they will persist in pushing everything they possibly can toward the supreme court.

    Yes, America will lose.  But when they are no longer in charge the Republicans just don't care about that.  All they will care about is thwarting everything from the Democrats.   And people actually cheer this.

     

    kinda grim way of looking at it all  confused

     

    basically   u  r   saying becuz of rump and the georgia voters  we   r   f--ked for the foreseeable future

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2020 - 10:48 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Harvard's "electoral integrity project" ranks US as 57th best system in the world.  A better system would help build trust in federal government which is needed especially in divided nations.  If there is no trust, nothing significant can be achieved because politics is about collective action.  Other nations have implemented the following improvements. Make voting a national holiday.  Automatic voter registration.  Tighten campaign finance laws.  Set caps on spending for each candidate.  Add more seats for large population states that are underrepresented.  Establish an independent electoral commission in charge of deciding boundaries and running federal elections.

    Great post. Unfortunately it would take sacrifice from those in power. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Harvard's "electoral integrity project" ranks US as 57th best system in the world.  A better system would help build trust in federal government which is needed especially in divided nations.  If there is no trust, nothing significant can be achieved because politics is about collective action.  Other nations have implemented the following improvements. Make voting a national holiday.  Automatic voter registration.  Tighten campaign finance laws.  Set caps on spending for each candidate.  Add more seats for large population states that are underrepresented.  Establish an independent electoral commission in charge of deciding boundaries and running federal elections.

    Great post. Unfortunately it would take sacrifice from those in power. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2020 - 12:07 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Its right there in the constitution.... President has responsibility to select Supreme Court judge... Can't blame people dieing during presidency. correct and Obama should have got  his SCOTUS pick (Garland) but was cheated out of it , which is not right there in the constitutuion SCOTUS justices will hold lopsided 6-3 in favor of conservatives for at least another two years if Mitch McConnell remains the Senate majority leader. Upcoming Biden administration will be forlorn in terms of SCOTUS majority, or even worse McConnell will make Biden a one term president as his top priority as Mitch claimed it to the President Obama. Also, not clear how many federal judges could Biden fill under McConnell's majority leader role, big fat goose egg, perhaps. Yes. I *EXPECT* Osoff and Warnock to put up good fights AGAIN but with the same result. Therefore The Grim Reaper will hold the senate hostage AGAIN for another two years minimum. Biden is limited from what he can do by executive order to help the American people, but I EXPECT Mitch will block *EVERYTHING* -- literally and figuratively.  trump will keep his following on twitter and in the two newest radical right cable networks and chirp from the peanut gallery.  THERE WILL BE GRIDLOCK ONCE AGAIN. Nothing significant will get done for the American people when there is a split and VERY DEVISIVE congress. NOTHING. Now, republicans love this!  Anything that foils a Democrat proposal is fine by them, even if that proposal was backed by say 75% of Americans.   Helping the American people, protecting us from dangers (military, cyber, viral),  improving our ability to compete on the world stage means absolutely nothing to Republicans unless THEY are in charge.   Every Democrat proposal must be defeated.   And they will persist in pushing everything they possibly can toward the supreme court. Yes, America will lose.  But when they are no longer in charge the Republicans just don't care about that.  All they will care about is thwarting everything from the Democrats.   And people actually cheer this.

    Grim Reaper just filled another five federal judges in last thirty hours, per Brian Williams' 11 Hour/MSNBC. One of those five judges was called unqualified to the job by the American Bar Association (ABA).

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/kathryn-kimball-mizelle-trump-judge-pick-deemed-unqualified-gets-confirmed-to-lifetime-judgeship

    Election has consequences. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Its right there in the constitution.... President has responsibility to select Supreme Court judge... Can't blame people dieing during presidency. correct and Obama should have got  his SCOTUS pick (Garland) but was cheated out of it , which is not right there in the constitutuion SCOTUS justices will hold lopsided 6-3 in favor of conservatives for at least another two years if Mitch McConnell remains the Senate majority leader. Upcoming Biden administration will be forlorn in terms of SCOTUS majority, or even worse McConnell will make Biden a one term president as his top priority as Mitch claimed it to the President Obama. Also, not clear how many federal judges could Biden fill under McConnell's majority leader role, big fat goose egg, perhaps. Yes. I *EXPECT* Osoff and Warnock to put up good fights AGAIN but with the same result. Therefore The Grim Reaper will hold the senate hostage AGAIN for another two years minimum. Biden is limited from what he can do by executive order to help the American people, but I EXPECT Mitch will block *EVERYTHING* -- literally and figuratively.  trump will keep his following on twitter and in the two newest radical right cable networks and chirp from the peanut gallery.  THERE WILL BE GRIDLOCK ONCE AGAIN. Nothing significant will get done for the American people when there is a split and VERY DEVISIVE congress. NOTHING. Now, republicans love this!  Anything that foils a Democrat proposal is fine by them, even if that proposal was backed by say 75% of Americans.   Helping the American people, protecting us from dangers (military, cyber, viral),  improving our ability to compete on the world stage means absolutely nothing to Republicans unless THEY are in charge.   Every Democrat proposal must be defeated.   And they will persist in pushing everything they possibly can toward the supreme court. Yes, America will lose.  But when they are no longer in charge the Republicans just don't care about that.  All they will care about is thwarting everything from the Democrats.   And people actually cheer this.

    Grim Reaper just filled another five federal judges in last thirty hours, per Brian Williams' 11 Hour/MSNBC. One of those five judges was called unqualified to the job by the American Bar Association (ABA).

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/kathryn-kimball-mizelle-trump-judge-pick-deemed-unqualified-gets-confirmed-to-lifetime-judgeship

    Election has consequences. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Grim Reaper just filled another five federal judges in last thirty hours, per Brian Williams' 11 Hour/MSNBC. One of those five judges was called unqualified to the job by the American Bar Association (ABA). https://www.thedailybeast.com/kathryn-kimball-mizelle-trump-judge-pick-deemed-unqualified-gets-confirmed-to-lifetime-judgeship Election has consequences.

    Yep America is screwed.

    The Senate needs to be proportional just like the House, but that will NEVER happen.

    Wyoming with 500,000 people get 2 senators.

    In theory the votes there could be  like 100,000 vs 99,700 and each Republican gets in narrowly.

     

    In California with 40 MILLION population they only get 2 senators.

    The Dem senate candidates could actually each whup their GOP opponent by over 3 MILLION votes each, and the state still only gets 2 senators to speak for 40 MILLION people.

    The definitive power lies in the Senate the way it currently is laid out.

    It won't change in our lifetime.

    Polls show clearly the American populace blame congress - both sides - for FAILURE to help Americans, but they cast MOST of that blame on REPUBLICANS and specifically Mitch McConnell who has the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in Congress.

     

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    Grim Reaper just filled another five federal judges in last thirty hours, per Brian Williams' 11 Hour/MSNBC. One of those five judges was called unqualified to the job by the American Bar Association (ABA). https://www.thedailybeast.com/kathryn-kimball-mizelle-trump-judge-pick-deemed-unqualified-gets-confirmed-to-lifetime-judgeship Election has consequences.

    Yep America is screwed.

    The Senate needs to be proportional just like the House, but that will NEVER happen.

    Wyoming with 500,000 people get 2 senators.

    In theory the votes there could be  like 100,000 vs 99,700 and each Republican gets in narrowly.

     

    In California with 40 MILLION population they only get 2 senators.

    The Dem senate candidates could actually each whup their GOP opponent by over 3 MILLION votes each, and the state still only gets 2 senators to speak for 40 MILLION people.

    The definitive power lies in the Senate the way it currently is laid out.

    It won't change in our lifetime.

    Polls show clearly the American populace blame congress - both sides - for FAILURE to help Americans, but they cast MOST of that blame on REPUBLICANS and specifically Mitch McConnell who has the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in Congress.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Grim Reaper just filled another five federal judges in last thirty hours, per Brian Williams' 11 Hour/MSNBC. One of those five judges was called unqualified to the job by the American Bar Association (ABA). https://www.thedailybeast.com/kathryn-kimball-mizelle-trump-judge-pick-deemed-unqualified-gets-confirmed-to-lifetime-judgeship Election has consequences. Yep America is screwed. The Senate needs to be proportional just like the House, but that will NEVER happen. Wyoming with 500,000 people get 2 senators. In theory the votes there could be  like 100,000 vs 99,700 and each Republican gets in narrowly.   In California with 40 MILLION population they only get 2 senators. The Dem senate candidates could actually each whup their GOP opponent by over 3 MILLION votes each, and the state still only gets 2 senators to speak for 40 MILLION people. The definitive power lies in the Senate the way it currently is laid out. It won't change in our lifetime. Polls show clearly the American populace blame congress - both sides - for FAILURE to help Americans, but they cast MOST of that blame on REPUBLICANS and specifically Mitch McConnell who has the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in Congress.

    Here is the thing, Mitch McConnell, the Grim Reaper, will become the most powerful Republican politician on Jan. 20, 2021. Biden will have his hands tied by McConnell who will laugh out loud for at least another two years or for eon, seemly GOP will control the Senate forever. 

    And may be one day, the SCOTUS justices will fill as 9-0 seats in favor of the conservatives/GOP, thanks to GOP senate majority. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Grim Reaper just filled another five federal judges in last thirty hours, per Brian Williams' 11 Hour/MSNBC. One of those five judges was called unqualified to the job by the American Bar Association (ABA). https://www.thedailybeast.com/kathryn-kimball-mizelle-trump-judge-pick-deemed-unqualified-gets-confirmed-to-lifetime-judgeship Election has consequences. Yep America is screwed. The Senate needs to be proportional just like the House, but that will NEVER happen. Wyoming with 500,000 people get 2 senators. In theory the votes there could be  like 100,000 vs 99,700 and each Republican gets in narrowly.   In California with 40 MILLION population they only get 2 senators. The Dem senate candidates could actually each whup their GOP opponent by over 3 MILLION votes each, and the state still only gets 2 senators to speak for 40 MILLION people. The definitive power lies in the Senate the way it currently is laid out. It won't change in our lifetime. Polls show clearly the American populace blame congress - both sides - for FAILURE to help Americans, but they cast MOST of that blame on REPUBLICANS and specifically Mitch McConnell who has the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in Congress.

    Here is the thing, Mitch McConnell, the Grim Reaper, will become the most powerful Republican politician on Jan. 20, 2021. Biden will have his hands tied by McConnell who will laugh out loud for at least another two years or for eon, seemly GOP will control the Senate forever. 

    And may be one day, the SCOTUS justices will fill as 9-0 seats in favor of the conservatives/GOP, thanks to GOP senate majority. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2020 - 8:25 AM ET #37

    "I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's." - Mark Twain, 12 Sept. 1907

    Samuel Clemmons words could not ring tried  and truer  today as it was 113 years.

    Roosevelt felt cheated in election so Teddy broke away from the gop and ran as a 3rd party bringing Wilson the Democrat  to power first elected Democrat to the President since before the civil war....

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    "I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's." - Mark Twain, 12 Sept. 1907

    Samuel Clemmons words could not ring tried  and truer  today as it was 113 years.

    Roosevelt felt cheated in election so Teddy broke away from the gop and ran as a 3rd party bringing Wilson the Democrat  to power first elected Democrat to the President since before the civil war....

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2020 - 8:32 AM ET #38

    The president went back to Republican control until his nephew Franklin Roosevelt ascended to President in 1933...

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    The president went back to Republican control until his nephew Franklin Roosevelt ascended to President in 1933...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2020 - 8:35 AM ET #39

    I know you live day to day.

    They plan generational shifts in Policy.

    Long term designs something happens and you feel it's a random act of chance. They finally realize a goal and say finally the work is complete.... 

    It ain't even close in terms of mismatched of intelligence vs commoners day to day needs...

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    I know you live day to day.

    They plan generational shifts in Policy.

    Long term designs something happens and you feel it's a random act of chance. They finally realize a goal and say finally the work is complete.... 

    It ain't even close in terms of mismatched of intelligence vs commoners day to day needs...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordbettington:

    does anyone believe that many people actually voted?  The sheer increase alone is suspect.  Sure times are tough, but  In 2008 the economy and stock market were collapsing and plenty of people loved and hated obama and yet much much less votes.  There are millions of eligible voters who will never vote in their lifetime, everyone knows a few people like this.  There is a possibility that alot of votes came from people who don't even know they voted.  Seems most on here aren't open to critical thinking, they just love or hate trump/biden blindly.

     

    Yes, I do believe that many people voted because the oddsmakers set Trump's popular vote total at 69 million for an over/under and set Biden's at 79 million.  I understand you are likely an insane Republican who doesn't follow credible news sources but that's simply no excuse for ignorance.  The books already knew the increase in voting was coming and so unless you've got secret information that needs to be revealed to the public, your theory about people having their ballots cast without knowing is astoundingly stupid.  The behavior I'm seeing from Republicans now is exactly why I keep describing them as scumbags who cheat, lie and steal until they're dead.  Oh, they know Trump lost but desperate people will do anything possible before it's all over.  I'm not concerned because these slimy animals will crawl back to their apartments and homes once they realize nothing can be done to change the outcome.  It's hilarious to see these evil people trying everything to keep Trump's Machiavellian society in place.  Don't worry.  You can still cheat, lie and steal in your personal lives.  

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    does anyone believe that many people actually voted?  The sheer increase alone is suspect.  Sure times are tough, but  In 2008 the economy and stock market were collapsing and plenty of people loved and hated obama and yet much much less votes.  There are millions of eligible voters who will never vote in their lifetime, everyone knows a few people like this.  There is a possibility that alot of votes came from people who don't even know they voted.  Seems most on here aren't open to critical thinking, they just love or hate trump/biden blindly.

     

    Yes, I do believe that many people voted because the oddsmakers set Trump's popular vote total at 69 million for an over/under and set Biden's at 79 million.  I understand you are likely an insane Republican who doesn't follow credible news sources but that's simply no excuse for ignorance.  The books already knew the increase in voting was coming and so unless you've got secret information that needs to be revealed to the public, your theory about people having their ballots cast without knowing is astoundingly stupid.  The behavior I'm seeing from Republicans now is exactly why I keep describing them as scumbags who cheat, lie and steal until they're dead.  Oh, they know Trump lost but desperate people will do anything possible before it's all over.  I'm not concerned because these slimy animals will crawl back to their apartments and homes once they realize nothing can be done to change the outcome.  It's hilarious to see these evil people trying everything to keep Trump's Machiavellian society in place.  Don't worry.  You can still cheat, lie and steal in your personal lives.  

     
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     Nothing will change until the Dems capture both the House and Senate. NOTHING. Even then I expect the Dems will be too stupid to get anything accomplished for fear of hurting the Republicans feelings. 

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     Nothing will change until the Dems capture both the House and Senate. NOTHING. Even then I expect the Dems will be too stupid to get anything accomplished for fear of hurting the Republicans feelings. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    See I feel both sides now can come to the table with a common interest. Finding something they can agree with Fairness standards in an election process.

    Surely this is your attempt at humor. You can't be that naive, please. Across the aisle is a ship that has sailed. If Democrats present a bill of any kind, Republicans will vote against it even if it's something they favor. The did it a hundred times from 2010 -2016 because they were infuriated over a black family living in the White House.

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    See I feel both sides now can come to the table with a common interest. Finding something they can agree with Fairness standards in an election process.

    Surely this is your attempt at humor. You can't be that naive, please. Across the aisle is a ship that has sailed. If Democrats present a bill of any kind, Republicans will vote against it even if it's something they favor. The did it a hundred times from 2010 -2016 because they were infuriated over a black family living in the White House.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2020 - 1:16 AM ET #44

    I believe Joe can work with humans in the Senate 

    He has worked with both aisles in the senate.

    And will continue doing what he does building personal friendships with his collegues.

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    He has worked with both aisles in the senate.

    And will continue doing what he does building personal friendships with his collegues.

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