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    Equal rights activists petitioning Minnesota for era ratification

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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2017 - 11:45 AM ET #1

    awmakers in Minnesota are debating legislation to give equal protection to residents regardless of gender, and they’ll be greeted by hundreds of women urging them to vote ‘yes’ at the State Capitol today.

    On this International Women’s Day, women across the state and globe are skipping work, wearing red and attending marches and rallies. They’re calling for gender equality, and to bring attention to the social, economic and cultural successes of women.

    Betty Folliard, president of ERA Minnesota, a group that supports passage of a national Equal Rights Amendment and specific language about equality in the Minnesota Constitution, says it’s another chance for women to make their voices heard.

    “To say to our legislative leaders in the Minnesota House and the Minnesota Senate that women’s rights are human rights, women’s rights are equal rights, and we’re going to ‘keep calm and demand equality,’” she said.

    Pending legislation in House and Senate

    Legislation in both the House and Senate reads, “equality under the law shall not be abridged or denied on account of gender.” If the bills pass both houses, the change would be put on the ballot next year with a start date of January 1st, 2019.

    Folliard says women had been battling for equality for 94 years when the 19th Amendment was passed. She notes they can fight and die for the U.S. but still aren’t guaranteed equal rights.

    “An Equal Rights Amendment will set forth the principle of gender equality and offer women and men a more effective avenue of legal recourse against discrimination on the basis of sex,” she explained.

    Other marches and rallies for International Women’s Day are being held this evening, including one at Mayday Plaza in Minneapolis, and another in Minnesota Power Park in Duluth
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    awmakers in Minnesota are debating legislation to give equal protection to residents regardless of gender, and they’ll be greeted by hundreds of women urging them to vote ‘yes’ at the State Capitol today.

    On this International Women’s Day, women across the state and globe are skipping work, wearing red and attending marches and rallies. They’re calling for gender equality, and to bring attention to the social, economic and cultural successes of women.

    Betty Folliard, president of ERA Minnesota, a group that supports passage of a national Equal Rights Amendment and specific language about equality in the Minnesota Constitution, says it’s another chance for women to make their voices heard.

    “To say to our legislative leaders in the Minnesota House and the Minnesota Senate that women’s rights are human rights, women’s rights are equal rights, and we’re going to ‘keep calm and demand equality,’” she said.

    Pending legislation in House and Senate

    Legislation in both the House and Senate reads, “equality under the law shall not be abridged or denied on account of gender.” If the bills pass both houses, the change would be put on the ballot next year with a start date of January 1st, 2019.

    Folliard says women had been battling for equality for 94 years when the 19th Amendment was passed. She notes they can fight and die for the U.S. but still aren’t guaranteed equal rights.

    “An Equal Rights Amendment will set forth the principle of gender equality and offer women and men a more effective avenue of legal recourse against discrimination on the basis of sex,” she explained.

    Other marches and rallies for International Women’s Day are being held this evening, including one at Mayday Plaza in Minneapolis, and another in Minnesota Power Park in Duluth
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2017 - 1:26 PM ET #2

    Women are being encouraged to take day off and march. That pretty well sums up womens day. Another march lacking focus. The pay gap is a myth.
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    Women are being encouraged to take day off and march. That pretty well sums up womens day. Another march lacking focus. The pay gap is a myth.
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Sabanesque] 'm sure we'll see the yearly equal pay figures start to balance out. The whole "equal pay" statistics are based on outright lies. Women are paid the same as men. They just don't do the hard labor jobs (because physically they can't or don't want to). 

    Let's see more women nailing roofs, laying down tile, framing houses. (won't happen)

     Response: that should be of an individual choice to demands in construction and opportunities within the construction industry. do not see a reason why a women could not use air guns and skil saws same as a man.

    And let's hire people to raise the kids so women can work 40-50 hours. (won't happen
    Response : These exist we call them Teachers and afterschool programs. as well as child day care centers .

    Maybe we can get robots pregnant so women can be free to work 40-50 hours. (won't happen)

    Response John Hopkins University is a leader in this field stem cell research now allows for cloning opportunities.

    I'm sure we'll see the yearly equal pay figures start to balance out. The whole "equal pay" statistics are based on outright lies. Women are paid the same as men. They just don't do the hard labor jobs (because physically they can't or don't want to). 


     Response: Americans will not do this regardless hence we have immegrant labor status green cards, through legal channels we can contract immigrants to do labor or tech Jobs Employers are unable to find qualified domestic talent for.

    welcome to 2017 ... it has changed from the narrow views you held when you graduated from College.



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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Sabanesque] 'm sure we'll see the yearly equal pay figures start to balance out. The whole "equal pay" statistics are based on outright lies. Women are paid the same as men. They just don't do the hard labor jobs (because physically they can't or don't want to). 

    Let's see more women nailing roofs, laying down tile, framing houses. (won't happen)

     Response: that should be of an individual choice to demands in construction and opportunities within the construction industry. do not see a reason why a women could not use air guns and skil saws same as a man.

    And let's hire people to raise the kids so women can work 40-50 hours. (won't happen
    Response : These exist we call them Teachers and afterschool programs. as well as child day care centers .

    Maybe we can get robots pregnant so women can be free to work 40-50 hours. (won't happen)

    Response John Hopkins University is a leader in this field stem cell research now allows for cloning opportunities.

    I'm sure we'll see the yearly equal pay figures start to balance out. The whole "equal pay" statistics are based on outright lies. Women are paid the same as men. They just don't do the hard labor jobs (because physically they can't or don't want to). 


     Response: Americans will not do this regardless hence we have immegrant labor status green cards, through legal channels we can contract immigrants to do labor or tech Jobs Employers are unable to find qualified domestic talent for.

    welcome to 2017 ... it has changed from the narrow views you held when you graduated from College.



     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2017 - 2:37 PM ET #4

    Women taking a day off without pay to protest unequal pay should do a lot to close the pay gap with men.................
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Women taking a day off without pay to protest unequal pay should do a lot to close the pay gap with men.................


    guess its the old teacher trick, do you want a cookie now or can you wait a while for four cookies....
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    Women taking a day off without pay to protest unequal pay should do a lot to close the pay gap with men.................


    guess its the old teacher trick, do you want a cookie now or can you wait a while for four cookies....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Women are being encouraged to take day off and march. That pretty well sums up womens day. Another march lacking focus. The pay gap is a myth.

    actually NOW national organization for women is quite focused they want Equal Rights amendment ratified. It seems opposition is in the cut and run mode to this steamroller moving slowly but effectively to complete this goal.
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    Women are being encouraged to take day off and march. That pretty well sums up womens day. Another march lacking focus. The pay gap is a myth.

    actually NOW national organization for women is quite focused they want Equal Rights amendment ratified. It seems opposition is in the cut and run mode to this steamroller moving slowly but effectively to complete this goal.
     
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    NOW may have focus, but the endless marches and protests accomplish nothing. The pink hat march was a complete debacle, it was exclusive, hijacked by left wing celebreties spewing ridiculous comments. There is no end game to any of this. They cry overworked and underpaid but the evidence just isnt there. Unpaid labour used to be called parenting. 

    The neilsen numbers for shows like the talk, the view, ellen et al reveal what the mordern stay at home woman is doing all day. 

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    NOW may have focus, but the endless marches and protests accomplish nothing. The pink hat march was a complete debacle, it was exclusive, hijacked by left wing celebreties spewing ridiculous comments. There is no end game to any of this. They cry overworked and underpaid but the evidence just isnt there. Unpaid labour used to be called parenting. 

    The neilsen numbers for shows like the talk, the view, ellen et al reveal what the mordern stay at home woman is doing all day. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    NOW may have focus, but the endless marches and protests accomplish nothing. The pink hat march was a complete debacle, it was exclusive, hijacked by left wing celebreties spewing ridiculous comments. There is no end game to any of this. They cry overworked and underpaid but the evidence just isnt there. Unpaid labour used to be called parenting. 

    The neilsen numbers for shows like the talk, the view, ellen et al reveal what the mordern stay at home woman is doing all day. 


    yes the medias endless distraction that is some type of protest to trump for Clinton is sickning i can admit, and ratifing era under a Republican at 1600 pennsylvania is not a good fit for Democratic national comitee... 

    but sooner or later the news watching real Americans in anywhere usa will realize that these are not marches about Hillary any nasty women who feel rejected in 2016 election process, these are usa citizens demanding equal rights regardless of sex.

    how ever the media is spinning it does not distract from the publicity 
    this is exposing in the way things are done in Washington.
    And democratic leadership for the frauds they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    NOW may have focus, but the endless marches and protests accomplish nothing. The pink hat march was a complete debacle, it was exclusive, hijacked by left wing celebreties spewing ridiculous comments. There is no end game to any of this. They cry overworked and underpaid but the evidence just isnt there. Unpaid labour used to be called parenting. 

    The neilsen numbers for shows like the talk, the view, ellen et al reveal what the mordern stay at home woman is doing all day. 


    yes the medias endless distraction that is some type of protest to trump for Clinton is sickning i can admit, and ratifing era under a Republican at 1600 pennsylvania is not a good fit for Democratic national comitee... 

    but sooner or later the news watching real Americans in anywhere usa will realize that these are not marches about Hillary any nasty women who feel rejected in 2016 election process, these are usa citizens demanding equal rights regardless of sex.

    how ever the media is spinning it does not distract from the publicity 
    this is exposing in the way things are done in Washington.
    And democratic leadership for the frauds they are.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2017 - 9:43 PM ET #9

    https://youtu.be/sREyrKc7EiQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDutch:

    https://youtu.be/sREyrKc7EiQ


    obviously not many liberals could sit through that but that is the exact problem with activism. So many different stories or causes , and divides the nation into factions,
    what is real most Americans have zero tolerance for rape, sexual assault on anyone. black white women men boys or girls rape has no place in America.

    definition of rape is been confusing, but i will show my hand in this if two adults can not mutually consent to the act of adult sex. then this is rape.
    children should not engage in the behavior for simple reason of raising the child becomes a difficult at best for a single mother of teen years. Can this be done through legislation no . It has to be done with education to what happens to single parents raising children and what happens to children being raised by a community.

    example how many single parent adult children are in jail , drugs, or dead. vs a stable two parent home raising children after finishing college and establishing a good job and position to raise children.

    total waste of talent of Citizens wanting equal rights for all and encountering every wheel house of distraction sides taking focus off the game at hand equal rights amendment ratification regardless who is in the seat of 1600 pennsylvania avenue. If hillary was there these protests would be focused on era ratification, but without hillary the demo rats decided to sit on the can and wait till 2020, stalling every possible accomplishment trump may take credit for.

    the problem since 1972 they have wasted 20 years with a democrat in 1600 pennsylvania ave. and they arte still stalling for time.

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    https://youtu.be/sREyrKc7EiQ


    obviously not many liberals could sit through that but that is the exact problem with activism. So many different stories or causes , and divides the nation into factions,
    what is real most Americans have zero tolerance for rape, sexual assault on anyone. black white women men boys or girls rape has no place in America.

    definition of rape is been confusing, but i will show my hand in this if two adults can not mutually consent to the act of adult sex. then this is rape.
    children should not engage in the behavior for simple reason of raising the child becomes a difficult at best for a single mother of teen years. Can this be done through legislation no . It has to be done with education to what happens to single parents raising children and what happens to children being raised by a community.

    example how many single parent adult children are in jail , drugs, or dead. vs a stable two parent home raising children after finishing college and establishing a good job and position to raise children.

    total waste of talent of Citizens wanting equal rights for all and encountering every wheel house of distraction sides taking focus off the game at hand equal rights amendment ratification regardless who is in the seat of 1600 pennsylvania avenue. If hillary was there these protests would be focused on era ratification, but without hillary the demo rats decided to sit on the can and wait till 2020, stalling every possible accomplishment trump may take credit for.

    the problem since 1972 they have wasted 20 years with a democrat in 1600 pennsylvania ave. and they arte still stalling for time.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2017 - 10:32 PM ET #11

    they squash grassroots organizations through super delegates...

    https://inthesetimes.com/features/superdelegate-interview-elaine-kamarck.html

    Yeah, I mean what we’ve known for many years now is that primary electorates are not representative of the whole party. Republican primaries skew right and the Democrat primaries skew left. That’s really dawning on people after 1972, when you had a real increase in the number of primaries. There was a concern that we were going to be nominating unelectable candidates like George McGovern.


    now what was happening in 1972... let me think... era amendment ratification? water gate? wallace assasination in american independent party .. dubbed segregationists, hmmm let me think...
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    they squash grassroots organizations through super delegates...

    https://inthesetimes.com/features/superdelegate-interview-elaine-kamarck.html

    Yeah, I mean what we’ve known for many years now is that primary electorates are not representative of the whole party. Republican primaries skew right and the Democrat primaries skew left. That’s really dawning on people after 1972, when you had a real increase in the number of primaries. There was a concern that we were going to be nominating unelectable candidates like George McGovern.


    now what was happening in 1972... let me think... era amendment ratification? water gate? wallace assasination in american independent party .. dubbed segregationists, hmmm let me think...
     
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    super delegates are needed to keep the party in line with the leadership goals...
     that is the only reason for them.
     in the q bee top down effect with in the democratic party.
     you are told who to vote for and you best do it.

    you are subjects to tyrany from an inner circle as discussed in the novel 1984, or distant works of Hawthorne or even more distant works such as the fables of Chaucier, or sophicles is you wish to did even futhur and without fail a freemen system is subjected to a monarchy, consider acorn the sa that put Obama in power. He then dismissed and disolved this sa for Hillaries ss approach.

    and now we have Trump at 1600 pennsylvania ave.
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    super delegates are needed to keep the party in line with the leadership goals...
     that is the only reason for them.
     in the q bee top down effect with in the democratic party.
     you are told who to vote for and you best do it.

    you are subjects to tyrany from an inner circle as discussed in the novel 1984, or distant works of Hawthorne or even more distant works such as the fables of Chaucier, or sophicles is you wish to did even futhur and without fail a freemen system is subjected to a monarchy, consider acorn the sa that put Obama in power. He then dismissed and disolved this sa for Hillaries ss approach.

    and now we have Trump at 1600 pennsylvania ave.
     
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    , when you had a real increase in the number of primaries...
    you have to love the abject arrogance of dealing with new blood in a Party system and the measures leadership went through to mute this grassroots supporter efforts.
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    you have to love the abject arrogance of dealing with new blood in a Party system and the measures leadership went through to mute this grassroots supporter efforts.
     
     
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    eventually a class action lawsuite will be brought to challenge governments lack security for wards of the state, whether in prison or correctional systems, youth detention centers, or foster home services operating under dhhs budgets system, rape has no place in america and the government is liable for the damages while individuals are left in there care.
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