Yeah there is no way outside having someone leak info that the government can see things from outside the corporate shield, no chance. Here is one for you, Musk is cooking for sure, I have ZERO doubt in my mind his books are not clean and he hides and shifts stuff around to keep his stock share price up because he needs that cash for his lifestyle and to bail out Twitter.
Wall, these are both public companies that Musk owns that naturally fall under the purview of the SEC and other federal agencies. I would be surprised if he's getting away w anything.
SBF on the other hand is just an outright fraud, proclaiming "I'm sorry, it sucks " to anyone that will listen. What a little punk this guy is
The following sentence is a headline from infowars.com FTX used clinical trials that found therapeutic medications ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were ineffective Covid treatments were funded by defunct crypto exchange FTX. Imagine that! Can we please put that punk named Sam Bankman-Fried in handcuffs and chains! Here is the story.
FTX Slush Fund Bankrolled Fake Studies To Hide Covid Therapeutics (infowars.com)
In 2020, SBF gave $5.2 million to President Joe Biden’s campaign, but his political spending was then only just getting started. SBF created the main vehicle for his political spending in 2022: Protect Our Future PAC. That PAC raised $28.4 million and spent all most all of it on Democratic primaries and the general election. Almost all of that came from SBF, with rounding error contributions from Everytown for Gun Safety Action (Michael Bloomberg’s anti-gun group) and a California guy named David Eth. The PAC spending made SBF the sixth largest donor to American politics in the 2021-2022 cycle, and the second largest donor to Democratic candidates, topped only by George Soros.
That PAC’s messaging orbited pandemic prevention and it claimed to endorse only candidates who took long term views on pandemic planning. SBF’s PAC endorsed the following candidates, a blend of state, local, and federal candidates: Abigail Spanberger (VA-07), Adam Hollier (MI-13), Alderman Gilbert Villegas (IL-03), Anthony Delgado (NY Lt. Governor), Becca Balint (VT-AL), Brittany Pettersen (CO-7), Carrick Flynn (OR-06), Chuy Garcia (IL-04), Francis Conole (NY- 22), Haley Stevens (MI-11), Jared Moskowitz (FL-22), Jonathan Jackson (IL-01), Josh Lafazan (NY-03), Laura Gillen (NY-04), Max Rose (NY-11), Maxwell Alejandro Frost (FL-10), Mayor Robert Garcia (CA-42), Morgan McGarvey (KY-03), Nikki Budzinski (IL-13), Peter Welch (VT-SEN), Rep. Lucy McBath (GA-07), Rep. Ritchie Torres (NY-15), Rep. Shontel Brown (OH-11), Robert Menendez, Jr. (NJ-08), State Rep. Jasmine, Crockett (TX-30), Sydney Kamlager (CA-30), and Valerie Foushee (NC-04).
Carrick Flynn. Flynn ran for Oregon’s 6 Congressional District in a crowded field of Democrats. He finished second, with 18.3 percent of the vote, losing to Andrea Salinas, who went on to win a close race to represent a district that includes Salem and parts of the Portland area.
According to campaign finance records, SBF’s PAC spent $10.5 million promoting Flynn. That’s more than one-third of the group’s total funding spent on a Dem primary candidate who bagged 11,105 votes. That means SBF paid $945 for every Flynn vote. Unusual, to say the least, but double so when you consider his mother’s whole political schtick is maximizing the impact of political spending using sophisticated strategies and analysis.
Did a cabal of U.S. actors send taxpayer money to Ukraine that was transferred back into FTX to launder money into the Democratic Party?
According to reporting from Coin Desk, the Ukrainian government partnered with FTX to help convert cryptocurrency “donations” into arms and war supplies. According to some estimates, between FTX and the National Bank of Ukraine facilitated the flow of up to $100 million worth of bitcoin and cryptocurrency for the war effort. Ukrainian officials have refuted the allegation that anything nefarious happened with FTX, but that’s pretty much meaningless. As far as I’m concerned, it’s only smoke around the potential fire.
The biggest evidence... is the timing of SBF’s donations: he gave much more money to Democrats after the partnership with Ukraine than he did before. In 2021 and in the first part of 2022 (prior to the partnership with Ukraine in March of 2022), SBF had given $11.7 million to political candidates, according to FEC records. After March 15, 2022, the date when Coindesk first reported the partnership with Ukraine, SBF gives another $22.4 million to politicians and political committees. In May, two months after the start of FTX’s Ukrainian partnership, SBF tells a podcaster that his “soft ceiling” for political spending on left-wing causes is $1,000,000,000. Regardless of what you think about the conspiracy theory, it’s clear that SBF donated far more money after the Ukrainian partnership and floated the idea of donating enormous sums – after the Ukrainian partnership.
https://www.themainewire.com/2022/11/sam-bankman-frieds-ftx-collapse-touches-ukraine-the-world-economic-forum-silicon-valley-and-both-sides-of-d-c/
No proof of FTX-Ukraine-democrats conspiracy according to fact checks by facebook, politifact, forbes and coin desk. Much US aid didn't go directly to Ukraine government but rather to third parties such as military contractors and humanitarian relief groups. Nonsense to allege Ukraine government investing in FTX and money laundering to help US democrats.
"fact checks" are opinions.
The truth will come out.
Facebook finally admitted the truth: The “fact checks” that social media use to police what Americans read and watch are just “opinion.”
That’s thanks to a lawsuit brought by celebrated journalist John Stossel, which has exposed the left’s supposed battle against “misinformation” as a farce.
NY -post https://nypost.com/2021/12/14/facebook-admits-the-truth-fact-checks-are-really-just-lefty-opinion/
thirdperson is likely a branch of these "fact checkers" - allegedly 
The 30-year-old billionaire was able to gain access to a top Biden advisor weeks before he offered vast political donations to the Democrats.
The Washington Free Beacon reported that Bankman-Fried met with top Biden adviser Steve Ricchetti on April 22 and May 12, according to White House visitor logs.
Gabe Bankman-Fried—SBF’s brother who handles the billionaire’s political operations—visited the White House on March 7, according to the outlet.
SBF largely funded the Democratic Protect Our Future PAC that only launched in May 2022. SBF’s brother said the PAC was formed to “stop the next pandemic.”
Curiously, the Ukrainian government launched a cryptocurrency donation website in March that was backed by FTX.
CoinDesk reported in March,
‘Aid for Ukraine,’ which has the backing of crypto exchange FTX, staking platform Everstake, and Ukraine’s Kuna exchange, will route donated crypto to the National Bank of Ukraine, Everstake’s Head of Growth Vlad Likhuta told CoinDesk. Ukraine’s crypto-savvy Ministry of Digital Transformation is also involved.
An Everstake Press Release stated,
Aid For Ukraine is cooperating with the cryptocurrency exchange FTX which converts crypto funds received into fiat and sends the donations to the National Bank of Ukraine. This marks the first-ever instance of a cryptocurrency exchange directly cooperating with a public financial entity to provide a conduit for crypto donations. Earlier this month, FTX already converted $1 million worth of SOL and transferred it to the National Bank of Ukraine. (SOL just lost 40% of it's coin in the last week due to the FTX fall out)
Bankman-Fried said at the time:
At the onset of the conflict in Ukraine, FTX felt the need to provide assistance in any way it could. By working with the Ministry of Digital Transformation to set up payment rails and facilitate the conversion of crypto donations into fiat currency, we have given the National Bank of Ukraine the ability to deliver aid and resources to the people who need it most. We are grateful for the opportunity to work with Sergey and the Everstake team as they continue to work tirelessly in helping Ukrainians as they suffer from this conflict.
It's. not. nonsense. It's. facts.
https://mronline.org/2022/11/15/collapsed-cryptocurrency-exchange-ftx-had-ties-to-ukrainian-government-wef-and-top-biden-adviser/
No proof of FTX-Ukraine-democrats conspiracy according to fact checks by facebook, politifact, forbes and coin desk. Much US aid didn't go directly to Ukraine government but rather to third parties such as military contractors and humanitarian relief groups.
Nonsense to allege Ukraine government investing in FTX and money laundering to help US democrats.
So the MAGA-MORONS on social media and cable are shouting conspiracy theories, and once again with no proof???
Geez, never saw that coming 
So the MAGA-MORONS on social media and cable are shouting conspiracy theories, and once again with no proof???
Precisely.
Again.
It never ends with them.
Fraud is pretty much ingrained into their DNA now.
Media matters and lead stories fact checks also debunk FTX conspiracy theory as baseless. Fund raiser "Aid for Ukraine" received private crypto contributions (not US taxpayers money). FTX helped to convert all crypto currency to only fund Ukraine war effort. No crypto currency was stored on FTX. No evidence that FTX transfered taxpayers money through Ukraine to democrats in the US. Such funds are subject to World bank safeguards and monitoring according to US agency for international development. Besides, not a crime for FTX to make donations to democrats and republicans.
We'll see when the facts come out.
Sure, when it's your money it's not. But when it's stolen money....
thx thirdperson thats all i need to know until the putin lovers come up with proof
which they wont
by the way
Weird, has Media Matters and lead stories seen FTXs books? No. So how would these left leaning fact checking sites have the info to DeBuNk? They don't. They haven't debunked anything. On going investigation that has only just started...
Let's see how this plays out in time.
checking the cable news and rightwing websites there is still no proof to back up their umpteenth conspiracy theory!!
this is just their deflection from failing bigly in the midterms
NOT TRUE: FTX was the second largest donor to biden
There’s like 10 bigger donors to Biden during the 2020 election.
You also made a huge assumption along the way to your wrong conclusion - that Biden knew of the scheme and ignored it anyways. Absolutely evidence of that exists, but funny how you left that out.
Bankman-Fried reportedly gave more than $44,000 to the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) this year, while NRCC Chair Tom Emmer received donations from Salame.
An additional $23 million was funneled to Democrats via a Bankman-Fried political action committee (PAC), while one tied to Salame gave more than $12 million to Republicans.
Not to mention, the $5.6 million Bankman-Fried gave to President Joe Biden’s campaign leading up to the 2020 collection, second only to media billionaire Mike Bloomberg, who donated $56 million.
In light of swirling allegations around Bankman-Fried, including that he siphoned billions of dollars in customer funds to fuel risky bets across the crypto ecosystem, Democrats Dick Durbin and Jesús “Chuy” García both told The Daily Beast they would donate the $2,900 they received from Bankman-Fried to undisclosed charities.
The situation is especially sticky given the odds that at least some of Bankman-Fried’s personal fortune came as a result of intentionally misusing user funds, although such allegations are yet to be explicitly proven.
Republican David Schweikert said he’d also give up his FTX-linked cash, which also amounted to $2,900 by way of Salame. “If the person who made an individual contribution engaged in bad acts, yeah, absolutely,” Schweikert reportedly said.
Ruben Gallego, Democratic representative of Arizona, took a different tack, telling reporters that he’d spent Bankman-Fried’s donation in support of Latina Congress hopeful Andrea Salinas.
Bankman-Fried had reportedly spent millions to defeat Salinas throughout Oregon’s Democratic primary. “I think I’ve paid it back,” Gallego said.
Democratic representatives Salud Carbajal and Lucy McBath received $5,800 and $2,900 from Bankman-Fried, respectively. McBath didn’t comment, according to the Daily Beast, which reported that her communications director said that she couldn’t answer questions while walking to the House floor.
Carbajal, who represents California’s 24th district, directed reporters to contact his office. A spokesperson later told Blockworks that Carbajal would indeed be donating Bankman-Fried’s money to a local charity “in our area that is aimed at boosting economic opportunity and financial literacy.”
Aside from those detailed above, The Daily Beast contacted 26 current and incoming lawmakers from both parties, all of which declined to comment or did not respond.
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