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    Giuliani: No 'successful radical Islamic terrorist attacks' in U.S. before Obama's presidency

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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2016 - 9:30 PM ET #1

    Former New York mayor and Donald Trump surrogate Rudolph W. Giuliani told Trump's supporters Monday that the U.S. did not face "any successful radical Islamic terrorist attacks" before President Obama took office in 2008.

    Giuliani's claim, of course, ignores the Sept 11 attacks and was especially notable because he was mayor of New York at the time, a position that has formed a pillar of his public identity since then.

    Vice President Joe Biden once famously said of Giuliani: "There's only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun and a verb and 9/11."

    https://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-rudy-giuliani-the-u-s-didn-t-1471286315-htmlstory.html

    Hummn Well you can see what Obama has done to the USA!!!                   

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    Former New York mayor and Donald Trump surrogate Rudolph W. Giuliani told Trump's supporters Monday that the U.S. did not face "any successful radical Islamic terrorist attacks" before President Obama took office in 2008.

    Giuliani's claim, of course, ignores the Sept 11 attacks and was especially notable because he was mayor of New York at the time, a position that has formed a pillar of his public identity since then.

    Vice President Joe Biden once famously said of Giuliani: "There's only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun and a verb and 9/11."

    https://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-rudy-giuliani-the-u-s-didn-t-1471286315-htmlstory.html

    Hummn Well you can see what Obama has done to the USA!!!                   

     
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    Time for zelo to go.



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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2016 - 11:57 PM ET #4

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.
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    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.
     
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    The Muslim population has been since Muhamobama the last 6 years, has been the fastest growing population. Obama is proud to have orchestrated the immigration of 900,000 Muslims from various countries. Obama ordered the stated department to issue these visas under relaxed conditions and eased restrictions. Additionally, 425,000 Muslims overextended their visas. Only 1,400 were sought after and deported. The majority of these believe in sharia law.
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    The Muslim population has been since Muhamobama the last 6 years, has been the fastest growing population. Obama is proud to have orchestrated the immigration of 900,000 Muslims from various countries. Obama ordered the stated department to issue these visas under relaxed conditions and eased restrictions. Additionally, 425,000 Muslims overextended their visas. Only 1,400 were sought after and deported. The majority of these believe in sharia law.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.


    Of the 180,000 Americans murdered by non-terrorist since 9/11... how many of the murderers shouted " Allahu Akbar" as if they accomplished something glorious and holy by killing other people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.


    Of the 180,000 Americans murdered by non-terrorist since 9/11... how many of the murderers shouted " Allahu Akbar" as if they accomplished something glorious and holy by killing other people?
     
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    Largest migration of any period of recorded history of Mexican immigrants, Muslim refugees to one geographical region--the USA. Yes they are taking over. They are a majority in many states, California to name just one. Blame the weak. Blame the cucks. They are bamboozled and will put Slick Bill back in the White House to screw us over again.
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    Largest migration of any period of recorded history of Mexican immigrants, Muslim refugees to one geographical region--the USA. Yes they are taking over. They are a majority in many states, California to name just one. Blame the weak. Blame the cucks. They are bamboozled and will put Slick Bill back in the White House to screw us over again.
     
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    Hum. How quickly we forget Sept 11 2001.

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    Hum. How quickly we forget Sept 11 2001.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Of the 180,000 Americans murdered by non-terrorist since 9/11... how many of the murderers shouted " Allahu Akbar" as if they accomplished something glorious and holy by killing other people?

    So, I see.....you take no issue when young kids shout 'I'll kill you motherfu@@er" at 10yrs old playing Mortal Combat programminng their brain to kill (marine training sublimily) just like a terrorist  might and moth their mantras before killing yet when we turn on the news almost weekly we hear about former Marines or servicemen or other 'white' patriotic multi-generation Americans addding to the total of   180000 murders? What is the rati of non-American killing in America vs American -born killers? 
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Of the 180,000 Americans murdered by non-terrorist since 9/11... how many of the murderers shouted " Allahu Akbar" as if they accomplished something glorious and holy by killing other people?

    So, I see.....you take no issue when young kids shout 'I'll kill you motherfu@@er" at 10yrs old playing Mortal Combat programminng their brain to kill (marine training sublimily) just like a terrorist  might and moth their mantras before killing yet when we turn on the news almost weekly we hear about former Marines or servicemen or other 'white' patriotic multi-generation Americans addding to the total of   180000 murders? What is the rati of non-American killing in America vs American -born killers? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Hum. How quickly we forget Sept 11 2001.


    Ironically, Rudy Giuliani was the mayor of New York City. How does Giuliani forget he was the major at the time of two attacks on the World Trade Center? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Hum. How quickly we forget Sept 11 2001.


    Ironically, Rudy Giuliani was the mayor of New York City. How does Giuliani forget he was the major at the time of two attacks on the World Trade Center? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Hum. How quickly we forget Sept 11 2001.


    Ironic that the motto for 9/11 is "Never Forget"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Hum. How quickly we forget Sept 11 2001.


    Ironic that the motto for 9/11 is "Never Forget"
     
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    Honestly,  you just can't his stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    So, I see.....you take no issue when young kids shout 'I'll kill you motherfu@@er" at 10yrs old playing Mortal Combat programminng their brain to kill (marine training sublimily) just like a terrorist  might and moth their mantras before killing yet when we turn on the news almost weekly we hear about former Marines or servicemen or other 'white' patriotic multi-generation Americans addding to the total of   180000 murders? What is the rati of non-American killing in America vs American -born killers? 


    White privilege..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    So, I see.....you take no issue when young kids shout 'I'll kill you motherfu@@er" at 10yrs old playing Mortal Combat programminng their brain to kill (marine training sublimily) just like a terrorist  might and moth their mantras before killing yet when we turn on the news almost weekly we hear about former Marines or servicemen or other 'white' patriotic multi-generation Americans addding to the total of   180000 murders? What is the rati of non-American killing in America vs American -born killers? 


    White privilege..............

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.

    Wow these numbers displaying reality has got some posters all upset...

    Rational and logic perspective seems to be such a trigger for certain posters... Like they are allergic to it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.

    Wow these numbers displaying reality has got some posters all upset...

    Rational and logic perspective seems to be such a trigger for certain posters... Like they are allergic to it...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.


    Did you write this post before or after the Orlando massacre?

    I predict crickets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to FBI, non-muslims commit over 95% of all terrorist attacks in the US.  Since 9/11, only 33 Americans have been killed by muslim terrorists.  However  almost 180,000 Americans were murdered by non-terrorists.


    Did you write this post before or after the Orlando massacre?

    I predict crickets.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow these numbers displaying reality has got some posters all upset...

    Rational and logic perspective seems to be such a trigger for certain posters... Like they are allergic to it...


    When are you going to do the right thing and look before you leap?

    You piled on to bad or erroneous information by another low information sheep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow these numbers displaying reality has got some posters all upset...

    Rational and logic perspective seems to be such a trigger for certain posters... Like they are allergic to it...


    When are you going to do the right thing and look before you leap?

    You piled on to bad or erroneous information by another low information sheep.
     
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    Hard to believe that so many here, and all over the world, simply swallow what the media feeds them, without even asking what it is they are being fed.

    The liberal media took one brief part of Guliani's speech and replayed it to make him look like a twit.
    In reading the comments here, it was a job well done.

    Is there a person alive who honestly believes that Guliani somehow forgot 9/11? Seriously???

    The fact is that Guliani spoke at length about 9/11 being "the worst foreign attack in our history since the war of 1812" in his comments immediately before the part of the speech which has the liberals (and apparently the independents) salivating.

    I'm not defending his obvious poor choice of phrasing, but the media paints with a biased brush, and people keep buying the pictures as if they are Rembrandts 


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    Hard to believe that so many here, and all over the world, simply swallow what the media feeds them, without even asking what it is they are being fed.

    The liberal media took one brief part of Guliani's speech and replayed it to make him look like a twit.
    In reading the comments here, it was a job well done.

    Is there a person alive who honestly believes that Guliani somehow forgot 9/11? Seriously???

    The fact is that Guliani spoke at length about 9/11 being "the worst foreign attack in our history since the war of 1812" in his comments immediately before the part of the speech which has the liberals (and apparently the independents) salivating.

    I'm not defending his obvious poor choice of phrasing, but the media paints with a biased brush, and people keep buying the pictures as if they are Rembrandts 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow these numbers displaying reality has got some posters all upset...

    Rational and logic perspective seems to be such a trigger for certain posters... Like they are allergic to it...


    Oh you mean faulty numbers? Faulty numbers? Wrong numbers?

    Please explain how these wrong numbers represent reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow these numbers displaying reality has got some posters all upset...

    Rational and logic perspective seems to be such a trigger for certain posters... Like they are allergic to it...


    Oh you mean faulty numbers? Faulty numbers? Wrong numbers?

    Please explain how these wrong numbers represent reality.
     
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    I think they represented the reality at the time. So ok, add in the homophobic attack in Orlando. The distortional number says something...

    What do those discrepancies in numbers communicate?
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    I think they represented the reality at the time. So ok, add in the homophobic attack in Orlando. The distortional number says something...

    What do those discrepancies in numbers communicate?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    I think they represented the reality at the time. So ok, add in the homophobic attack in Orlando. The distortional number says something...

    What do those discrepancies in numbers communicate?


    Distortional? Is your spell checker on crack?

    What about the fort Hood workplace violence? What about the military recruiting office?

    The poster was obfuscating facts. Comparing MURDER stats with Terror stats which is disingenuous and you piled on without using your brain again. You didn't even add up the numbers and thus ended up with egg on your face.....AGAIN.

    Why is this a problem for you?

    You do this all the time because you're so eager to add to your post count, you don't care if what you post is accurate or correct. As long as you bash conservatives.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    I think they represented the reality at the time. So ok, add in the homophobic attack in Orlando. The distortional number says something...

    What do those discrepancies in numbers communicate?


    Distortional? Is your spell checker on crack?

    What about the fort Hood workplace violence? What about the military recruiting office?

    The poster was obfuscating facts. Comparing MURDER stats with Terror stats which is disingenuous and you piled on without using your brain again. You didn't even add up the numbers and thus ended up with egg on your face.....AGAIN.

    Why is this a problem for you?

    You do this all the time because you're so eager to add to your post count, you don't care if what you post is accurate or correct. As long as you bash conservatives.....
     
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    No I made a typo, not need to say if my spell checker is on crack and engage in your insults and games...  What I meant to say was disproportional, I apologize for the error on my part. 


    And I actually did am using my brain on this asking what the discrepancies in the numbers mean.  No need to attack me insulting my intelligence and then claiming victory.   

    I answered your question in a civil manner and responded with a question looking at the bigger picture of the meaning of the numbers. Why say egg on face for answering your question and asking a question with no jabs or games on my part? 

    Then you get all personal about post count?  Then characterize me as not caring if what I post is correct.. And then you make it partisan trying to charactize me as biased when I make no mention of partisan anything. 

    I offer nothing bu civil dialog wihth no jabs or insults on my part and you Go personal on multiple levels, make up lies, attack me and insult me... 

    But once again I'm sure you and others will say this is all my fault right...  I guess you gotta scape goat someone now adays 
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    No I made a typo, not need to say if my spell checker is on crack and engage in your insults and games...  What I meant to say was disproportional, I apologize for the error on my part. 


    And I actually did am using my brain on this asking what the discrepancies in the numbers mean.  No need to attack me insulting my intelligence and then claiming victory.   

    I answered your question in a civil manner and responded with a question looking at the bigger picture of the meaning of the numbers. Why say egg on face for answering your question and asking a question with no jabs or games on my part? 

    Then you get all personal about post count?  Then characterize me as not caring if what I post is correct.. And then you make it partisan trying to charactize me as biased when I make no mention of partisan anything. 

    I offer nothing bu civil dialog wihth no jabs or insults on my part and you Go personal on multiple levels, make up lies, attack me and insult me... 

    But once again I'm sure you and others will say this is all my fault right...  I guess you gotta scape goat someone now adays 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow these numbers displaying reality has got some posters all upset...

    Rational and logic perspective seems to be such a trigger for certain posters... Like they are allergic to it...


    Looks like nothing but a jab to me....should have checked to see if the numbers are accurate before piling on.

    You do this all the time.
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    Wow these numbers displaying reality has got some posters all upset...

    Rational and logic perspective seems to be such a trigger for certain posters... Like they are allergic to it...


    Looks like nothing but a jab to me....should have checked to see if the numbers are accurate before piling on.

    You do this all the time.
     
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    If you're responding to that post as a means of not responding to the question of what the numbers mean I would ask that you stop playing games and answer my question. 

    I ask you the question with out any attacks or games but instead you insult me saying j should checked my numbers and then going personal saying I do it all the time. 

    I am clearly the problem here 
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    If you're responding to that post as a means of not responding to the question of what the numbers mean I would ask that you stop playing games and answer my question. 

    I ask you the question with out any attacks or games but instead you insult me saying j should checked my numbers and then going personal saying I do it all the time. 

    I am clearly the problem here 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    If you're responding to that post as a means of not responding to the question of what the numbers mean I would ask that you stop playing games and answer my question. 

    I ask you the question with out any attacks or games but instead you insult me saying j should checked my numbers and then going personal saying I do it all the time. 

    I am clearly the problem here 


    Who are you and what have you done with DL36? Do you have him duct taped in the closet?

    What is going on here?

    .....Wherever he is, tell him that I was only trying to show him that he was indeed making a jab that drew my initial post about piling on to bad numbers. If he didn't pile on, I would have said nothing to him. Ask Miccio Kaku what nothing is.....the absence of 'something'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    If you're responding to that post as a means of not responding to the question of what the numbers mean I would ask that you stop playing games and answer my question. 

    I ask you the question with out any attacks or games but instead you insult me saying j should checked my numbers and then going personal saying I do it all the time. 

    I am clearly the problem here 


    Who are you and what have you done with DL36? Do you have him duct taped in the closet?

    What is going on here?

    .....Wherever he is, tell him that I was only trying to show him that he was indeed making a jab that drew my initial post about piling on to bad numbers. If he didn't pile on, I would have said nothing to him. Ask Miccio Kaku what nothing is.....the absence of 'something'.
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