house votes on health care today.

36 members of the freedom caucus are now in a jam. if they vote against this they will be targeted in primary cycles, 

trump is taking names of republicans not voting or voting no.

freedom caucus members are on the chopping block .

Paul Ryan says they are voting today. 

chuck the smucks in philibustering buisness as he moves to block the gorsuch nomination.

mcconnell as of far has not changed the rules of the senate. be interesting if he does.

something like if Judge Thomas asks a question bound to happen but not really a good bet.

then it can return to the house which wont pass it and in my opinion a giant waste of time and tax payer money as these established hacks go through the same motion year in and year out as it does with every budget ....

all just to say that are doing something, blocking anything that comes up to changing the way the are.

comittee addressing debate parameters.

It's really easy to be on the outside complaining about the other side, yelling and screaming about how much better we can do, and throwing out promises and not explaining how we are going to do it. 

It's like the local radio guy who keeps screaming that the coach of the football team or basketball team should be fired.  Then you ask him who should replace them, and they have no idea.  Being vocal about getting rid of something is easy.  It's coming up with the replacement plan that's the hard part, and unfortunately I'm seeing that the Republicans don't have plans for the things they were outspoken against.

Being in the majority is a whole different animal.  Passing legislation is really tough.  Just in the House, Republicans realized they have moderate republicans to appease as well as far right republicans to appease, and those people have small areas they represent and they need to do what their voters want.  Even though they are Republicans, they represent different people who want different things.

This vote represents a pretty big problem facing Republicans.  They aren't all on the same page, and they don't all want the same things.  Trump has flip flopped on so many things, and changes his mind daily,  they can't rally around him because they don't know exactly what he wants, and what legislation he wants.  This health care bill wasn't his idea...it was Paul Ryans.  And while Paul Ryan is a leader in the party, he isn't the President.  Trump had a lot of great sound bites when he was running, but it's becoming obvious that's all they were...sound bites.  The only thing he's really tried aggressively to go after is the travel ban, but they are so unorganized they keep writing the executive order in a way that it's open to getting shot down in court, and of course it keeps getting shot down in court. 

What I didn't see coming in the opposition to this bill was that there were people that didn't like the bill because it got rid of Obamacare subsidies, and then there were people that didn't like it because it wasn't far right enough.  It was obvious that there was no way to find a way to pass through a Republican congress.  If that's going to be a trend moving forward, the Republicans are in big trouble in trying to pass legislation.

The travel ban has been a disaster in court, healthcare couldn't even pass the House, there obviously isn't going to be a wall, Trump's budget proposal is ridiculous, it's obvious the Hillary emails and Benghazi talk was a sham because they promised prosecution, and they haven't done anything with that (they don't even mention it anymore)...so what exactly are they going to deliver on that they promised?

Based on what I've seen so far, my guess is not much. 

 

There is nothing better the repubs can come up with and that is a fact because (as mentioned many times) the problems are not addressed, rather shifting semantics around and trying to put some lipstick on this and voila the problem is all solved, REPUB style.

What a joke, but I am actually impressed that a small group of repubs are not falling for this joke because it is not any better than what is existing and in fact it penalizes many and accomplishes nothing.

You cannot fix the problem when part of the problem is paying for your lunch ticket...big pharma and healthcare PACS have sunk their teeth into our politicians so nothing can be done to fix the problem.

well i locked gonzwaga, and unc for the title game. but i am sure this part was for someone else, when ever i post anything on football, baseball, basketball, major forum is dead sure not going to happen.

i am like 1-10 since i thought hillary would win. i do have futures posted washington nationals win it all at 25-1 is too good to turn down. pot odds thing, i do not see the cubs repeating.

as on american legue side bo sox white sox yankees and cleavland all seem to have great paper teams. i nod bo sox due to sale pick up in off season.

but back to the thread, this spells out Ryans two year term he is already a lame duck holding the gavel. cause while washington was in "gridlock" was one reason not to get anything done.

now he has a divided party within a divvided house and really health care was from the begginers area, budget appropriation ways and means and everything really hard wont be done either. and this cycle the republicans have to do something.

or ryan can turn in his gavel and go back to distributing the news papers in where ever wisconsin again.

Lol.  It's a match play tourney.  We don't do match play tourneys

Republican Majority in the House of Representatives

Republican Majority in the Senate

Still can't get anything done 

Republicans have been trying to repeal and Replace ACA  for 7 years(that's right it's Affordable Care Act - not ObamaCare)

there is no law that the states upon their own determination can model their health plan after Vermonts.

any state legislature challenging a feasibilty study of Bernies Plan for universal health care as a current working model should then contemplate Bernie's plan. and Vermonts single payer. at the timje the dissenting view was that vermont would be over run by many terminally ill citizens the state has managed well with the plan since late 2000's

if it included being able to broker medicines in quebec again vermonts plan would actually cost much less ...

but as wallstreet revealed thed feds and state legislatures are bought and sold by pig Pharma.... it would be hard to under take a feasibility study on Nancys home district even.