There is no way to overstate what a massive scandal this is. In the weeks before the election, the CIA invented a blatant lie: that the NY Post's documents were "Russian disinformation." Big Tech then *censored* the reporting, and corporate outlets spent weeks spreading the lie.
The reality is that -- *from the start* -- there was ample evidence proving these documents were real, and that the CIA was lying. But the evidence came from right-wing outlets so the NYT, CNN and friends ignored it.
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There is no way to overstate what a massive scandal this is. In the weeks before the election, the CIA invented a blatant lie: that the NY Post's documents were "Russian disinformation." Big Tech then *censored* the reporting, and corporate outlets spent weeks spreading the lie.
The reality is that -- *from the start* -- there was ample evidence proving these documents were real, and that the CIA was lying. But the evidence came from right-wing outlets so the NYT, CNN and friends ignored it.
Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail.
Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else.
Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings
Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around.
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Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail.
Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else.
Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings
Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around.
“To me, this is just classic textbook Soviet Russian tradecraft at work,” former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper says as authorities are investigating if recently published emails are tied to a Russian disinformation effort targeting Biden.
That's why their newsroom and airwaves are filled with ex CIA and intelligence operatives, FBI officials, Pentagon functionaries and other security state ghouls telling lies like this under the guise of "news," right out in the open.
This is a MAJOR problem. What Biden, Bidens brother, and Biden’s son did isn’t even the main issue here.
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CNN Tweet 10/16/20:
“To me, this is just classic textbook Soviet Russian tradecraft at work,” former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper says as authorities are investigating if recently published emails are tied to a Russian disinformation effort targeting Biden.
That's why their newsroom and airwaves are filled with ex CIA and intelligence operatives, FBI officials, Pentagon functionaries and other security state ghouls telling lies like this under the guise of "news," right out in the open.
This is a MAJOR problem. What Biden, Bidens brother, and Biden’s son did isn’t even the main issue here.
Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail. Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else. Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around.
The entire political system is corrupt and the function of our current two party system is broken and has been for a long time. Trump was an outsider / non-politician that the establishment could not stand being in power. Biden is a walking Hologram puppet. Both sides are easy to bash. Having a logical or thought provoking discussion in this sub is basically non-existent. It's a booming echo chamber 95% of the time. When certain usernames copy & pastes something and gets a legitimate question tossed at them they ignore and/or deflect. There is no discussion. So now this sub is reduced to each side just posting the same regurgitated message time and time again....
America First
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail. Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else. Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around.
The entire political system is corrupt and the function of our current two party system is broken and has been for a long time. Trump was an outsider / non-politician that the establishment could not stand being in power. Biden is a walking Hologram puppet. Both sides are easy to bash. Having a logical or thought provoking discussion in this sub is basically non-existent. It's a booming echo chamber 95% of the time. When certain usernames copy & pastes something and gets a legitimate question tossed at them they ignore and/or deflect. There is no discussion. So now this sub is reduced to each side just posting the same regurgitated message time and time again....
Yes both are corrupt... when trump got elected in 2016... on CNN, a caller called in and said when both parties don't like a person, that's the one you vote for .. he is an outsider and neither party wants him in fear of revealing the corruption and fraud by all political parties..
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Yes both are corrupt... when trump got elected in 2016... on CNN, a caller called in and said when both parties don't like a person, that's the one you vote for .. he is an outsider and neither party wants him in fear of revealing the corruption and fraud by all political parties..
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail. Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else. Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around. The entire political system is corrupt and the function of our current two party system is broken and has been for a long time. Trump was an outsider / non-politician that the establishment could not stand being in power. Biden is a walking Hologram puppet. Both sides are easy to bash. Having a logical or thought provoking discussion in this sub is basically non-existent. It's a booming echo chamber 95% of the time. When certain usernames copy & pastes something and gets a legitimate question tossed at them they ignore and/or deflect. There is no discussion. So now this sub is reduced to each side just posting the same regurgitated message time and time again....
MODS should ban Kelly and Fubduh and see how much better this sub will actually get. Those 2 are pushing people away. It's the same crap from those 2 over and over. No discussions, only propaganda and usually off topic from the thread. They just want their names at the top and the last comment.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail. Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else. Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around. The entire political system is corrupt and the function of our current two party system is broken and has been for a long time. Trump was an outsider / non-politician that the establishment could not stand being in power. Biden is a walking Hologram puppet. Both sides are easy to bash. Having a logical or thought provoking discussion in this sub is basically non-existent. It's a booming echo chamber 95% of the time. When certain usernames copy & pastes something and gets a legitimate question tossed at them they ignore and/or deflect. There is no discussion. So now this sub is reduced to each side just posting the same regurgitated message time and time again....
MODS should ban Kelly and Fubduh and see how much better this sub will actually get. Those 2 are pushing people away. It's the same crap from those 2 over and over. No discussions, only propaganda and usually off topic from the thread. They just want their names at the top and the last comment.
if is an opinion, then should be stated as such.... the problem is when journalists, media cover a story, when they lie about it there is no penalty them. No accountability... if journalists had more integrity, the world might be a better place.. until the we will have division,hatred,animosity...imo
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if is an opinion, then should be stated as such.... the problem is when journalists, media cover a story, when they lie about it there is no penalty them. No accountability... if journalists had more integrity, the world might be a better place.. until the we will have division,hatred,animosity...imo
Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail. Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else. Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around.
It's not about the political party,
The ENTIRE media and internet controllers COLLUDED with the Biden's to prevent THE TRUTH right before the election and after the election, and then even now.
It's using the phrase "misinformation" to create a 1970's SOVIET style propaganda campaign.
"philosophical intoxication" will be the new norm. Disagree with us and you need mental help.
They've lied about COVID, using data from Jan 1 to create false numbers for the vaccinated. Ignored overseas data that they could have used, etc.
Right now they're lying about the Haitians. Thousands have been turned loose in the U.S., told to "check-in". Most won't. News media says were sending them back. A handful at best.
This is what the democratic party wants!! They want people dependent on THEM.
So don't give me the crap about "all politicians" are evil so get used to it.
SO............MUCH....................MORE!!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail. Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else. Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around.
It's not about the political party,
The ENTIRE media and internet controllers COLLUDED with the Biden's to prevent THE TRUTH right before the election and after the election, and then even now.
It's using the phrase "misinformation" to create a 1970's SOVIET style propaganda campaign.
"philosophical intoxication" will be the new norm. Disagree with us and you need mental help.
They've lied about COVID, using data from Jan 1 to create false numbers for the vaccinated. Ignored overseas data that they could have used, etc.
Right now they're lying about the Haitians. Thousands have been turned loose in the U.S., told to "check-in". Most won't. News media says were sending them back. A handful at best.
This is what the democratic party wants!! They want people dependent on THEM.
So don't give me the crap about "all politicians" are evil so get used to it.
Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Google all protected Biden. Any outlet that talked about the story was suspended. Basically only the NY Post reported on it. They would have never protected Trump even if there were false stories circulating. Look at Russiagate — totally fabricated. All of the major media outlets pushed the story. Twitter, Facebook, Google, Apple etc didn’t take any action. You’re a moderator. You’ll say your spiel in this thread but I have yet to see you say something like that in a thread about Trump. Why? Bias?
No your blinders are in full view...I said plenty regarding Trump bashing and partisan nonsense, but you flip back to your warm comfy blanket partisan leanings. If you are mad about Biden, be as mad about Trump or Bush or Bush because all of them are deserving of criticism..
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Google all protected Biden. Any outlet that talked about the story was suspended. Basically only the NY Post reported on it. They would have never protected Trump even if there were false stories circulating. Look at Russiagate — totally fabricated. All of the major media outlets pushed the story. Twitter, Facebook, Google, Apple etc didn’t take any action. You’re a moderator. You’ll say your spiel in this thread but I have yet to see you say something like that in a thread about Trump. Why? Bias?
No your blinders are in full view...I said plenty regarding Trump bashing and partisan nonsense, but you flip back to your warm comfy blanket partisan leanings. If you are mad about Biden, be as mad about Trump or Bush or Bush because all of them are deserving of criticism..
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail. Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else. Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around. The entire political system is corrupt and the function of our current two party system is broken and has been for a long time. Trump was an outsider / non-politician that the establishment could not stand being in power. Biden is a walking Hologram puppet. Both sides are easy to bash. Having a logical or thought provoking discussion in this sub is basically non-existent. It's a booming echo chamber 95% of the time. When certain usernames copy & pastes something and gets a legitimate question tossed at them they ignore and/or deflect. There is no discussion. So now this sub is reduced to each side just posting the same regurgitated message time and time again....
Trump really was not a political outsider, one does not need to be in office to be a political insider...he was as inside as any politician...and he was a massive corporate insider, what is the difference? None really...
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Both sides wonder every time their party is not in the seat...so Biden's kid is a schmuck, no question and for sure he profited off the history of his dad in politics. So GOP doobs mad that Hunter isnt being put in jail. Trump had a mountain of questionable closet trash that the DEMS were mad he got away with, his kids are guilty doing shady things, Trump got away with abusing people, tax evasion, hushing a prostitute and who knows what else. Obama was questioned sillily about his birth papers, his wife was questioned for her business interests and dealings Shall I go on? If you are mad about Biden and you are a Repub, why are you not mad at the abuses of the GOP leaders as much or more? No question there is no black and white, winner loser here...all parties are guilty, most all players are awful so posting about Biden is kind of boring since we all know the kid is a putz and will likely not get in trouble the same way Trump for 4 yrs never had to release tax documents that would have screwed him or allow women who he silenced with bribes and NDAs to speak about him...its kind of a joke all around. The entire political system is corrupt and the function of our current two party system is broken and has been for a long time. Trump was an outsider / non-politician that the establishment could not stand being in power. Biden is a walking Hologram puppet. Both sides are easy to bash. Having a logical or thought provoking discussion in this sub is basically non-existent. It's a booming echo chamber 95% of the time. When certain usernames copy & pastes something and gets a legitimate question tossed at them they ignore and/or deflect. There is no discussion. So now this sub is reduced to each side just posting the same regurgitated message time and time again....
Trump really was not a political outsider, one does not need to be in office to be a political insider...he was as inside as any politician...and he was a massive corporate insider, what is the difference? None really...
The point is, Trump isn't a lifelong politician.........it wasn't his life's work. OTOH, Biden knows nothing else......he's one of those that has never had a real job but thinks he knows what's best for everyone that does.
I don't like Trump.........never have. But I liked some of what he did while in office, & the fact that he made the lifers (on both sides) squirm a little.
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@wallstreetcappers
The point is, Trump isn't a lifelong politician.........it wasn't his life's work. OTOH, Biden knows nothing else......he's one of those that has never had a real job but thinks he knows what's best for everyone that does.
I don't like Trump.........never have. But I liked some of what he did while in office, & the fact that he made the lifers (on both sides) squirm a little.
@wallstreetcappers The point is, Trump isn't a lifelong politician.........it wasn't his life's work. OTOH, Biden knows nothing else......he's one of those that has never had a real job but thinks he knows what's best for everyone that does. I don't like Trump.........never have. But I liked some of what he did while in office, & the fact that he made the lifers (on both sides) squirm a little.
Well said!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
@wallstreetcappers The point is, Trump isn't a lifelong politician.........it wasn't his life's work. OTOH, Biden knows nothing else......he's one of those that has never had a real job but thinks he knows what's best for everyone that does. I don't like Trump.........never have. But I liked some of what he did while in office, & the fact that he made the lifers (on both sides) squirm a little.
I can’t stand Bush or Cheney or any establishment Republicans.
Next election they’ll run out a few against people like Rand Paul or DeSantis … if the GOP ever did them dirty in favor of an establishment candidate (Sanders/Clinton or Sanders/Biden) I’d be as anti GOP as I am currently anti DNC.
If that happened it would be the beginning of a real 3 Party system.
Unlike Sanders Democrats, Trump Republicans would never back an establishment GOP.
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I can’t stand Bush or Cheney or any establishment Republicans.
Next election they’ll run out a few against people like Rand Paul or DeSantis … if the GOP ever did them dirty in favor of an establishment candidate (Sanders/Clinton or Sanders/Biden) I’d be as anti GOP as I am currently anti DNC.
If that happened it would be the beginning of a real 3 Party system.
Unlike Sanders Democrats, Trump Republicans would never back an establishment GOP.
Mugg... exactly....he made lifers squirm....that's exactly what was said when he won the election...James carville..." you don't understand...this man owes nobody"... and other quote was when both parties don't like you, that's the person to vote for...I forgot person's name
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Mugg... exactly....he made lifers squirm....that's exactly what was said when he won the election...James carville..." you don't understand...this man owes nobody"... and other quote was when both parties don't like you, that's the person to vote for...I forgot person's name
Trump Republicans are stronger than Establishment Republicans.
Trump Republicans are stronger than Sanders Democrats.
But they’re not stronger than Establishment Democrats … because establishment Democrats have CIA, FBI, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, WaPo, NYT, Bloomberg, LA Times … this group also has the fake racism narrative, fake global warming narrative, the fake Covid narrative etc … they’ll be a tough egg to crack because of all of the indoctrination.
I do believe eventually black people will leave this group. Their interests don’t align with the interests of the establishment Democrats. Eventually a few good leaders will open their eyes imo and it will be historic. That’s my prediction. But nobody has been able to do it yet and I’m not sure who it will be.
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Trump Republicans are stronger than Establishment Republicans.
Trump Republicans are stronger than Sanders Democrats.
But they’re not stronger than Establishment Democrats … because establishment Democrats have CIA, FBI, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, WaPo, NYT, Bloomberg, LA Times … this group also has the fake racism narrative, fake global warming narrative, the fake Covid narrative etc … they’ll be a tough egg to crack because of all of the indoctrination.
I do believe eventually black people will leave this group. Their interests don’t align with the interests of the establishment Democrats. Eventually a few good leaders will open their eyes imo and it will be historic. That’s my prediction. But nobody has been able to do it yet and I’m not sure who it will be.
@wallstreetcappers The point is, Trump isn't a lifelong politician.........it wasn't his life's work. OTOH, Biden knows nothing else......he's one of those that has never had a real job but thinks he knows what's best for everyone that does. I don't like Trump.........never have. But I liked some of what he did while in office, & the fact that he made the lifers (on both sides) squirm a little.
You guys try to categorize him in some bizarre way as if he was an outsider, he was none of that at all..he campaigned to act as if he was an outsider but he was as inside as Biden...the only difference is Trump used the machine to be inside versus being part of the machine. There is no difference except Trump paid for entry via making enormous political connections due to his businesses and his name and in fact he gained more in his attempts to be an insider than Biden ever has. Biden worked inside, Trump worked the inside and got political and financial favors in the process.
Biden's kid is a joke he should be taken down as all of them should including Trump, Jared, Trump Jr, the cronies Trump had all around him and many that got caught but were pardoned. Trump made zero difference to this country and if anything he was the most disgusting, derisive angry person ever to be in office, delusional and paranoid to Nixon and higher levels. Corporations were the winners during Trump's years and I wonder why that is.
The last president who was a true outsider was Reagan and Carter before him, all since are just different coat colors of the machine.
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
@wallstreetcappers The point is, Trump isn't a lifelong politician.........it wasn't his life's work. OTOH, Biden knows nothing else......he's one of those that has never had a real job but thinks he knows what's best for everyone that does. I don't like Trump.........never have. But I liked some of what he did while in office, & the fact that he made the lifers (on both sides) squirm a little.
You guys try to categorize him in some bizarre way as if he was an outsider, he was none of that at all..he campaigned to act as if he was an outsider but he was as inside as Biden...the only difference is Trump used the machine to be inside versus being part of the machine. There is no difference except Trump paid for entry via making enormous political connections due to his businesses and his name and in fact he gained more in his attempts to be an insider than Biden ever has. Biden worked inside, Trump worked the inside and got political and financial favors in the process.
Biden's kid is a joke he should be taken down as all of them should including Trump, Jared, Trump Jr, the cronies Trump had all around him and many that got caught but were pardoned. Trump made zero difference to this country and if anything he was the most disgusting, derisive angry person ever to be in office, delusional and paranoid to Nixon and higher levels. Corporations were the winners during Trump's years and I wonder why that is.
The last president who was a true outsider was Reagan and Carter before him, all since are just different coat colors of the machine.
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