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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2019 - 8:51 PM ET #26

    Sure SS...

    Especially since the sheets are made to not support the weight of a suicide and magically both guards were sleeping and didnt notice.

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    Sure SS...

    Especially since the sheets are made to not support the weight of a suicide and magically both guards were sleeping and didnt notice.

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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2019 - 9:50 PM ET #27

    WSC,

    It is my understanding that prisoners at the Metropolitan Correctional Center’s Special Housing Unit were Epstein was housed ....when placed of suicide watch are issued heavy, rip- and fold-resistant smocks and blankets to reduce the risk of hanging.

    However when inmates are removed from suicide watch and deemed no longer an imminent risk for suicide...they are provided a mattress, blankets, a pillow,, normal prison clothing and regular bedsheets ..Epstein was take off suicide watch days before the hanging on July 29th...

    Do you know for sure that Epstein's bed sheet ..he hung himself with was of paper level ?
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    WSC,

    It is my understanding that prisoners at the Metropolitan Correctional Center’s Special Housing Unit were Epstein was housed ....when placed of suicide watch are issued heavy, rip- and fold-resistant smocks and blankets to reduce the risk of hanging.

    However when inmates are removed from suicide watch and deemed no longer an imminent risk for suicide...they are provided a mattress, blankets, a pillow,, normal prison clothing and regular bedsheets ..Epstein was take off suicide watch days before the hanging on July 29th...

    Do you know for sure that Epstein's bed sheet ..he hung himself with was of paper level ?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2019 - 10:43 PM ET #28

    Yeah a fellow inmate said the sheets were thin, not strong enough to support a hanging. And what say you about TWO guards sleeping?

    I call CIA garbage....

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    Yeah a fellow inmate said the sheets were thin, not strong enough to support a hanging. And what say you about TWO guards sleeping?

    I call CIA garbage....

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2019 - 12:31 AM ET #29

    Criminal prison inmates are not known to be a reliable source of accurate information..as far as the two guards ..if you can believe an anonymous prison official... they were asleep.. not checking on him  for hours...

    I will say, it does lend it's self to speculation ...especially while he was naming names ..nevertheless I don't like to fall into those conspiracy theory traps..they don't pan out too often..
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    Criminal prison inmates are not known to be a reliable source of accurate information..as far as the two guards ..if you can believe an anonymous prison official... they were asleep.. not checking on him  for hours...

    I will say, it does lend it's self to speculation ...especially while he was naming names ..nevertheless I don't like to fall into those conspiracy theory traps..they don't pan out too often..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2019 - 4:12 PM ET #30

    Oh I think conspiracy theories come in regularly and how this situation could be such a low priority reeks of CIA involvement. There is no way that two guards were asleep and nobody watching the establishment, that is pure nonsense.

    Why would they give him the ability to hang himself knowing he is a high value inmate involved in a very serious and damning situation? 

    I know when your political party is involved you are less detailed but when it is the opposite you are intensely critical and involved. I just hope this guy properly planned how to distribute all the info he had in case of being murdered...that is the only way we know who really was involved with proof and the public deserves to know.

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    Oh I think conspiracy theories come in regularly and how this situation could be such a low priority reeks of CIA involvement. There is no way that two guards were asleep and nobody watching the establishment, that is pure nonsense.

    Why would they give him the ability to hang himself knowing he is a high value inmate involved in a very serious and damning situation? 

    I know when your political party is involved you are less detailed but when it is the opposite you are intensely critical and involved. I just hope this guy properly planned how to distribute all the info he had in case of being murdered...that is the only way we know who really was involved with proof and the public deserves to know.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2019 - 4:53 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Oh I think conspiracy theories come in regularly and how this situation could be such a low priority reeks of CIA involvement. There is no way that two guards were asleep and nobody watching the establishment, that is pure nonsense.

    Why would they give him the ability to hang himself knowing he is a high value inmate involved in a very serious and damning situation? 

    I know when your political party is involved you are less detailed but when it is the opposite you are intensely critical and involved. I just hope this guy properly planned how to distribute all the info he had in case of being murdered...that is the only way we know who really was involved with proof and the public deserves to know.


    WSC'ers why is it you feel,, you need to interject political jabs into the discussion with conservative,, esp.when your side of the debate starts heading south ?

    Nevermind..I know you will not answer .......you never do.

    You put out some information from an un-named convict and an other anonymous sources and take affront,because I don't gobble it up as fact..( as Biden says he choose's truth over facts)

    Now, you are claiming you know for sure, that the two guards were asleep and not watching the store..

    Well,maybe this video statement from Epstein's security guard will change your mind..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSIvrRAuJ0c&feature=youtu.be
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Oh I think conspiracy theories come in regularly and how this situation could be such a low priority reeks of CIA involvement. There is no way that two guards were asleep and nobody watching the establishment, that is pure nonsense.

    Why would they give him the ability to hang himself knowing he is a high value inmate involved in a very serious and damning situation? 

    I know when your political party is involved you are less detailed but when it is the opposite you are intensely critical and involved. I just hope this guy properly planned how to distribute all the info he had in case of being murdered...that is the only way we know who really was involved with proof and the public deserves to know.


    WSC'ers why is it you feel,, you need to interject political jabs into the discussion with conservative,, esp.when your side of the debate starts heading south ?

    Nevermind..I know you will not answer .......you never do.

    You put out some information from an un-named convict and an other anonymous sources and take affront,because I don't gobble it up as fact..( as Biden says he choose's truth over facts)

    Now, you are claiming you know for sure, that the two guards were asleep and not watching the store..

    Well,maybe this video statement from Epstein's security guard will change your mind..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSIvrRAuJ0c&feature=youtu.be
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2019 - 11:28 PM ET #32

    My side of the debate isnt heading south...I disagree with the conclusion from the coroner, I did not quote Biden or any politician rather that you never ever missed an opportunity to hit up a conspiracy when it serves your political purpose..look at your messages in this thread and it isnt some unknown concept what I am referencing.

    I never answer...lol yeah coming from you one of the worst at not answering is cute. I rarely if ever do NOT reply, I'll hit it straight no matter what even when it is unpopular.

    And no I am not interested in his security guard. What I know is I have a friend who works at a correction facility and has for over fifteen years, the story being told here is pure garbage. Even at the most poorly run facility the odds of what are being suggested here are zero...it does not happen as described especially with a high value inmate as he was. Where were the tapes of the facility anyway, the record of what happened in the hallways as this allegedly was going on?

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    My side of the debate isnt heading south...I disagree with the conclusion from the coroner, I did not quote Biden or any politician rather that you never ever missed an opportunity to hit up a conspiracy when it serves your political purpose..look at your messages in this thread and it isnt some unknown concept what I am referencing.

    I never answer...lol yeah coming from you one of the worst at not answering is cute. I rarely if ever do NOT reply, I'll hit it straight no matter what even when it is unpopular.

    And no I am not interested in his security guard. What I know is I have a friend who works at a correction facility and has for over fifteen years, the story being told here is pure garbage. Even at the most poorly run facility the odds of what are being suggested here are zero...it does not happen as described especially with a high value inmate as he was. Where were the tapes of the facility anyway, the record of what happened in the hallways as this allegedly was going on?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2019 - 10:43 PM ET #33

    I think the logic of WSC is impossible to dispute here. I am no conspiracy buff, but the facts suggest homicide, not suicide. My money would be on the British Royal Family protecting Randy Prince Andy or the Clinton Crime Family protecting Bill ( RIP Mr. Vincent Foster ).

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    I think the logic of WSC is impossible to dispute here. I am no conspiracy buff, but the facts suggest homicide, not suicide. My money would be on the British Royal Family protecting Randy Prince Andy or the Clinton Crime Family protecting Bill ( RIP Mr. Vincent Foster ).

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2019 - 9:54 AM ET #34

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    Facts you will never be told by the New York Times: 1/ Madame Maxwell was given helicopter lessons and rated to fly another gift,  4 million dollar corporate heli-bird from West Palm Beach to Epstein Island.  2/ Epstein bragged about "buying a Slavia sex slake when she was 15" (The word slave comes directly from Slavia, where most slaves were being bought and sold in antiquity). Today, Nadie Marcinko is now a rated commercial pilot (paid for by Epstein) and she is the CEO of Aviloop. If you are loyal, you get hooked up with Epstein, you get paid very well.  3/ Epstein's jewish connections. 4/ Not even speculate WHY Epstein did this operation, spending large sums of money to keep it operational. WHY? Pure perversion? I don't buy it.  Epstein's death solved a lot of headaches for everyone. Now lawyers for the "disloyal" girls can try pick apart his estate.

    Geez, if you aren't Sabanesque, you guys definitely shop at the same Whole Foods. #3 on your list is just "Epstein's jewish connections." That's some high level sleuthing there, let me tell ya. A guy named Epstein has jewish connections? How many sleepless nights were spent cracking that one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

    Facts you will never be told by the New York Times: 1/ Madame Maxwell was given helicopter lessons and rated to fly another gift,  4 million dollar corporate heli-bird from West Palm Beach to Epstein Island.  2/ Epstein bragged about "buying a Slavia sex slake when she was 15" (The word slave comes directly from Slavia, where most slaves were being bought and sold in antiquity). Today, Nadie Marcinko is now a rated commercial pilot (paid for by Epstein) and she is the CEO of Aviloop. If you are loyal, you get hooked up with Epstein, you get paid very well.  3/ Epstein's jewish connections. 4/ Not even speculate WHY Epstein did this operation, spending large sums of money to keep it operational. WHY? Pure perversion? I don't buy it.  Epstein's death solved a lot of headaches for everyone. Now lawyers for the "disloyal" girls can try pick apart his estate.

    Geez, if you aren't Sabanesque, you guys definitely shop at the same Whole Foods. #3 on your list is just "Epstein's jewish connections." That's some high level sleuthing there, let me tell ya. A guy named Epstein has jewish connections? How many sleepless nights were spent cracking that one?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2019 - 1:29 PM ET #35

    Circus Bettor, most people are not interested in the angle you always pursue...not that it isnt important to you but it isnt the highest priority with regard to the overall situation. It is a bit annoying when many discussions you are involved with always go that way even when the subject has no direct reason to. I dont like how they have their roots into the political system here for obvious reasons, but then I also do not like the ultra conservatives teeth in the neck of politics either. Any monetary influence bothers me, it gives more power than the average guy can have over the process and it is not transparent.
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    Circus Bettor, most people are not interested in the angle you always pursue...not that it isnt important to you but it isnt the highest priority with regard to the overall situation. It is a bit annoying when many discussions you are involved with always go that way even when the subject has no direct reason to. I dont like how they have their roots into the political system here for obvious reasons, but then I also do not like the ultra conservatives teeth in the neck of politics either. Any monetary influence bothers me, it gives more power than the average guy can have over the process and it is not transparent.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2019 - 3:38 PM ET #36

    Nah no need to go that far, but also no need to turn everything into that conclusion. Discussion is good, all sides are welcome. I also do not disagree with your conclusion that Israel has their control over our policy and decisions way too much, but its not the only thing to discuss and evolve to conversation wise.
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    Nah no need to go that far, but also no need to turn everything into that conclusion. Discussion is good, all sides are welcome. I also do not disagree with your conclusion that Israel has their control over our policy and decisions way too much, but its not the only thing to discuss and evolve to conversation wise.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2019 - 11:56 PM ET #37

    US Attorney General Bill Barr today addressed Epstein’s case and the DOJ’s investigation into Epstein's death..

    Barr said he has not seen anything that undercuts the finding of the medical examiner,,that this was a suicide by hanging..
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    US Attorney General Bill Barr today addressed Epstein’s case and the DOJ’s investigation into Epstein's death..

    Barr said he has not seen anything that undercuts the finding of the medical examiner,,that this was a suicide by hanging..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2019 - 5:25 PM ET #38

    Shocking...just like the dopes who towed the line about Kennedy. What is he going to say that the CIA made a hit on the guy to stop him from outting many of their assets and hundreds of politicians and corporate leaders?
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    Shocking...just like the dopes who towed the line about Kennedy. What is he going to say that the CIA made a hit on the guy to stop him from outting many of their assets and hundreds of politicians and corporate leaders?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2021 - 4:04 PM ET #39

    From the Marine who stopped the armed robbery in Yuma, AZ. Even Dana Perino got a laugh out of it! Only 20 or so seconds. Epstein did not kill himself!

    Kassy Dillon on Twitter: "The Marine who stopped the corner store robbery in the viral video was just on Fox News. He ended his interview saying "Epstein didn't kill himself" haha. https://t.co/NUkZaow09j" / Twitter

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    From the Marine who stopped the armed robbery in Yuma, AZ. Even Dana Perino got a laugh out of it! Only 20 or so seconds. Epstein did not kill himself!

    Kassy Dillon on Twitter: "The Marine who stopped the corner store robbery in the viral video was just on Fox News. He ended his interview saying "Epstein didn't kill himself" haha. https://t.co/NUkZaow09j" / Twitter

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2021 - 4:07 PM ET #40

    @sundance

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    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2021 - 6:18 PM ET #41

    Hilarious...

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    Hilarious...

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2025 - 7:51 PM ET #43

    Conspiracy theorists at work again . Nothing new . And the beat goes on . So dopey. 

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Conspiracy theorists at work again . Nothing new . And the beat goes on . So dopey. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2025 - 5:17 AM ET #44

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     nice thread bumppeace_5

    you can actually read with your own eyes that Wallstreet showed the ability to have conversations, it is nothing like the 'Do as I say' attitude now

    I wonder if this was before Wall had his made men title because he was the OP here

    Don't be offended by my opinion Wallstreet, your reaction posts here from 2019 appear more civil compared to now 

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     nice thread bumppeace_5

    you can actually read with your own eyes that Wallstreet showed the ability to have conversations, it is nothing like the 'Do as I say' attitude now

    I wonder if this was before Wall had his made men title because he was the OP here

    Don't be offended by my opinion Wallstreet, your reaction posts here from 2019 appear more civil compared to now 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    @unplucked_gem  nice thread bump you can actually read with your own eyes that Wallstreet showed the ability to have conversations, it is nothing like the 'Do as I say' attitude now I wonder if this was before Wall had his made men title because he was the OP here Don't be offended by my opinion Wallstreet, your reaction posts here from 2019 appear more civil compared to now

    He has been a mod for a while. I would agree, he seems to have changed but it's one persons perception of another, and must be taken with a grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    @unplucked_gem  nice thread bump you can actually read with your own eyes that Wallstreet showed the ability to have conversations, it is nothing like the 'Do as I say' attitude now I wonder if this was before Wall had his made men title because he was the OP here Don't be offended by my opinion Wallstreet, your reaction posts here from 2019 appear more civil compared to now

    He has been a mod for a while. I would agree, he seems to have changed but it's one persons perception of another, and must be taken with a grain of salt.

     
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     Nah nothing is different you just take offense when I hold people accountable and call out those being abusive to other members. It is cute seeing the partisan group who more often offends try and form fake narratives and act surprised that what they have crafted is false.

    Just because someone either shares your viewpoint or DOES NOT share your viewpoint the better approach is to understand and see perspective then draw conclusions. I missed my snowflake liberal wheaties for a few days on this thread thus I was not a DEI loving conservative abusing mod, I will make sure not to repeat that again.

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     Nah nothing is different you just take offense when I hold people accountable and call out those being abusive to other members. It is cute seeing the partisan group who more often offends try and form fake narratives and act surprised that what they have crafted is false.

    Just because someone either shares your viewpoint or DOES NOT share your viewpoint the better approach is to understand and see perspective then draw conclusions. I missed my snowflake liberal wheaties for a few days on this thread thus I was not a DEI loving conservative abusing mod, I will make sure not to repeat that again.

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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2025 - 11:47 AM ET #47

    My favorite piece of this thread is where the self proclaimed resident fact checker breaks out the "snopes" references as confirmation these are conspiracy theories.  

    Woops....

    Time wins again.  

    If time beat me down and proved me wrong as often as third I wouldn't even show up in here any more, much less continue to post like you are actually stating facts to help the forum.  It is a complete joke.  third is basically an indirect misinformation plant in this forum and there are literally only a half decades worth of BS receipts in here to prove it.  If he was tracking his "facts" like we do betting % then he would be in the single digits.  

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    My favorite piece of this thread is where the self proclaimed resident fact checker breaks out the "snopes" references as confirmation these are conspiracy theories.  

    Woops....

    Time wins again.  

    If time beat me down and proved me wrong as often as third I wouldn't even show up in here any more, much less continue to post like you are actually stating facts to help the forum.  It is a complete joke.  third is basically an indirect misinformation plant in this forum and there are literally only a half decades worth of BS receipts in here to prove it.  If he was tracking his "facts" like we do betting % then he would be in the single digits.  

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2025 - 11:58 AM ET #48

    On this topic, I must say that it seems Pam jumped the gun with her statement last week of "Epstein files are on my desk ready to be released".  Everything that was just released it those cute little white binders is OLD NEWS.  YEARS OLD.  I posted the same redacted black book list here YEARS ago.  It is a joke that they even made a big deal out of it and now she is back tracking blaming the NYC DOJ & FBI office of with holding evidence.  Yes, that is true that there is an element from those organizations that was found destroying server evidence.  BUT why the hell did she come out with a statement of any kind if she new there was a vast amount of missing evidence???  That sounds extremely fishing OR it sounds like INCOMPETENCE.  I'm going with the latter on this one.....I'll believe it when I see individuals from NYC DOJ & FBI prosecuted and held accountable.  Until then, the recent events surrounding this "release" are a joke.

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    On this topic, I must say that it seems Pam jumped the gun with her statement last week of "Epstein files are on my desk ready to be released".  Everything that was just released it those cute little white binders is OLD NEWS.  YEARS OLD.  I posted the same redacted black book list here YEARS ago.  It is a joke that they even made a big deal out of it and now she is back tracking blaming the NYC DOJ & FBI office of with holding evidence.  Yes, that is true that there is an element from those organizations that was found destroying server evidence.  BUT why the hell did she come out with a statement of any kind if she new there was a vast amount of missing evidence???  That sounds extremely fishing OR it sounds like INCOMPETENCE.  I'm going with the latter on this one.....I'll believe it when I see individuals from NYC DOJ & FBI prosecuted and held accountable.  Until then, the recent events surrounding this "release" are a joke.

     
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