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    More republican hypocrisy - does it ever end???

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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 10:50 AM ET #1

    All the talk about obama's travel expenses and using tax payers money etc...

    I heard yesterday that in his first month trumps travel costs alone were right about $11.7 million. That includes travel, secret service etc.

    In his 8 years as president Obama averaged $12 million a year.

    But hey who cares right? Have to be able to think critically to have an opinion on this.
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    All the talk about obama's travel expenses and using tax payers money etc...

    I heard yesterday that in his first month trumps travel costs alone were right about $11.7 million. That includes travel, secret service etc.

    In his 8 years as president Obama averaged $12 million a year.

    But hey who cares right? Have to be able to think critically to have an opinion on this.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 11:10 AM ET #2

    how much did Hillary frequent flyer mile run us.
    what results did that achieve... right back at ya tiger.
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    what results did that achieve... right back at ya tiger.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 11:20 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    how much did Hillary frequent flyer mile run us.
    what results did that achieve... right back at ya tiger.

    I am not sure. But to be fair I also do not know how much it costs for all of the other members in Trumps white house. I am just focusing on the President and the overwhelmingly hypocrisy.

    And this doesn't even include the costs that are racking up in New York.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    how much did Hillary frequent flyer mile run us.
    what results did that achieve... right back at ya tiger.

    I am not sure. But to be fair I also do not know how much it costs for all of the other members in Trumps white house. I am just focusing on the President and the overwhelmingly hypocrisy.

    And this doesn't even include the costs that are racking up in New York.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 11:26 AM ET #4

    suppose going to the National museum for black history would be considered a complete waste of time and resources as well?
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    suppose going to the National museum for black history would be considered a complete waste of time and resources as well?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 11:30 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    suppose going to the National museum for black history would be considered a complete waste of time and resources as well?

    Huh? I do not follow. 
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    suppose going to the National museum for black history would be considered a complete waste of time and resources as well?

    Huh? I do not follow. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 11:32 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    suppose going to the National museum for black history would be considered a complete waste of time and resources as well?

    You are digressing from the point. It is a straight forward point. Stay on task!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    suppose going to the National museum for black history would be considered a complete waste of time and resources as well?

    You are digressing from the point. It is a straight forward point. Stay on task!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 11:52 AM ET #7

    the sum you admirably revealed is a collection of the costs the white house has spent in the travel the president has done.

    so this sum would include the Japan Prime ministers golf trip.
    the presidents day rally's in florida, the movements within white houses air force one,
    the logistics of the security concerns of guarding our asset The President of the United states.

    you are addressing costs, and within that cost how much does it cost for one hour of flight time for air force one. for the first flight , then how much does it cost to continue the program after start up costs are determined.
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    the sum you admirably revealed is a collection of the costs the white house has spent in the travel the president has done.

    so this sum would include the Japan Prime ministers golf trip.
    the presidents day rally's in florida, the movements within white houses air force one,
    the logistics of the security concerns of guarding our asset The President of the United states.

    you are addressing costs, and within that cost how much does it cost for one hour of flight time for air force one. for the first flight , then how much does it cost to continue the program after start up costs are determined.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 11:58 AM ET #8

    really i got you in seven moves?....
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 12:14 PM ET #9

    here's the beauty of all these bills trump is racking up.  the money going to maralago for his weekly excursions there and the extra money to deal with his wife in trump tower in NY go into his pocket.  trump is going to go into the grifting hall of fame on the first ballot when all is said and done.  i hope someone calculates how much money trump makes off this thing .  i bet it's going to be impressive. 
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    here's the beauty of all these bills trump is racking up.  the money going to maralago for his weekly excursions there and the extra money to deal with his wife in trump tower in NY go into his pocket.  trump is going to go into the grifting hall of fame on the first ballot when all is said and done.  i hope someone calculates how much money trump makes off this thing .  i bet it's going to be impressive. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    here's the beauty of all these bills trump is racking up.  the money going to maralago for his weekly excursions there and the extra money to deal with his wife in trump tower in NY go into his pocket.  trump is going to go into the grifting hall of fame on the first ballot when all is said and done.  i hope someone calculates how much money trump makes off this thing .  i bet it's going to be impressive. 

    time for the chuck shumer action doll "unprecedented"
    then when was the actually set.. shorak pick me me ...

    clinton is the one who started the secret srevice must pay for housing clause in the constitution, ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    here's the beauty of all these bills trump is racking up.  the money going to maralago for his weekly excursions there and the extra money to deal with his wife in trump tower in NY go into his pocket.  trump is going to go into the grifting hall of fame on the first ballot when all is said and done.  i hope someone calculates how much money trump makes off this thing .  i bet it's going to be impressive. 

    time for the chuck shumer action doll "unprecedented"
    then when was the actually set.. shorak pick me me ...

    clinton is the one who started the secret srevice must pay for housing clause in the constitution, ,

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 1:08 PM ET #11

    The Third Amendment

    By Gordon S. Wood

    The Third Amendment seems to have no direct constitutional relevance at present; indeed, not only is it the least litigated amendment in the Bill of Rights, but the Supreme Court has never decided a case on the basis of it.

    The federal government today is not likely to ask people to house soldiers in their homes, even in time of war. Nevertheless, the amendment has some modern implications. It suggests the individual’s right of domestic privacy—that people are protected from governmental intrusion into their homes; and it is the only part of the Constitution that deals directly with the relationship between the rights of individuals and the military in both peace and war—rights that emphasize the importance of civilian control over the armed forces. Some legal scholars have even begun to argue that the amendment might be applied to the government’s response to terror attacks and natural disasters, and to issues involving eminent domain and the militarization of the police.

    When the amendment was written in the eighteenth century, Americans and Englishmen in general believed that the issue of quartering troops in private homes was of great and palpable significance. During the course of their history the English had developed a deep dislike of standing armies; they especially objected to the government’s compelling them to quarter soldiers in their homes.

    Yet the English attitude was contradictory. At the same time as the English protested the quartering of troops in private homes, they were reluctant to house the soldiers in barracks separated from the civilian population. The English remained so suspicious of standing armies that they feared that concentrations of soldiers in barracks might pose military threats to the people’s liberties. Thus, the English concluded that if they had to have an army, it must be scattered among the populace and housed preferably in inns, alehouses, stables, and private homes. But as Parliament made clear in the Glorious Revolution of 1688-89, the government could not billet troops in private homes without the consent of the owners. So the English fear of standing armies was inextricably connected to their fear of having soldiers quartered in their homes without their consent.

    During the Seven Years War between Britain and France (called in the North American colonies the French and Indian War) the colonists who had inherited the traditional English fear of standing armies resented having to billet the British redcoats. Americans preferred to rely for their protection on local militia, not on professional soldiers. Although the peace treaty of 1763 ended the war and ousted France from the North American continent, the British government believed it still needed tens of thousands of soldiers in America in order to police the newly acquired territories. Since the earlier English quartering act did not extend to the colonies, Parliament in 1765 passed a Quartering Act that set down the regulations for housing soldiers in the American colonies during time of peace. The colonists were to provide barracks for the soldiers, and if they were not available, the troops were to be billeted in inns, stables, and alehouses; if these were insufficient, the governors and councils of the provinces were authorized to use uninhabited houses, barns, and other buildings to lodge the soldiers. The colonists were required to furnish provisions and necessaries for the troops, including firewood, bedding, and beer.

    The colonies, particularly the province of New York, objected to this act, especially as it obliged them to raise money to support the soldiers without the consent of their provincial legislatures. Tensions over the presence of British soldiers in the colonies increased. In 1768 royal troops were redeployed to Boston, Massachusetts, to assist with law enforcement in a colony that seethed with resentment against British authority. Many Bostonians became convinced that this standing army quartered among them in time of peace in violation of English law was designed to overwhelm them with military force. With nearly four thousand redcoats billeted in a town of fifteen thousand civilians, it was only a matter of time before an incident occurred. On March 5, 1770, nervous British soldiers fired upon a hostile crowd and killed five civilians, resulting in what the colonists called the Boston Massacre. 

    In the eyes of the British government Boston seemed to be a hotbed of fanaticism. The Tea Party in December 1773, in which patriots threw £10,000 of tea into Boston harbor, confirmed this view and led Parliament in 1774 to pass the Coercive Acts, among which was a new Quartering Act. This act went beyond the earlier statute by authorizing the royal governors to order the billeting of soldiers in private homes if the colonists refused to provide other lodging.

    These British actions lay behind the Continental Congress’s expressions of American grievance. In its Declaration and Resolves on October 14, 1774, Congress protested the presence in a time of peace of a standing army and the quartering of troops in the colonies without their consent. Then in the Declaration of Independence of 1776, two of the many accusations Congress leveled against the king were his keeping “among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the Consent or our Legislatures,” and his “quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us.”

    Many of the Revolutionary state constitutions drafted in 1776-77 included provisions warning of the dangers of standing armies in peacetime and stating, as the Virginia Bill of Rights of 1776 did, “That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free State.” Some state constitutions also affirmed, as did the Delaware Declaration of Rights of 1776, “that no soldiers ought to be quartered in any house in time of peace without the consent of the owner, and in time of war in such manner only as the legislature shall direct.” Thus when the new federal Congress came to write the Third Amendment to the Constitution in 1789, it had considerable experience and precedent to rely on. There was nothing new about the Third Amendment; it simply declared what had become conventional American wisdom.

    sourceGordon S. Wood Alva O. Way University Professor and Professor of History Emeritus at Brown University  
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    By Gordon S. Wood

    The Third Amendment seems to have no direct constitutional relevance at present; indeed, not only is it the least litigated amendment in the Bill of Rights, but the Supreme Court has never decided a case on the basis of it.

    The federal government today is not likely to ask people to house soldiers in their homes, even in time of war. Nevertheless, the amendment has some modern implications. It suggests the individual’s right of domestic privacy—that people are protected from governmental intrusion into their homes; and it is the only part of the Constitution that deals directly with the relationship between the rights of individuals and the military in both peace and war—rights that emphasize the importance of civilian control over the armed forces. Some legal scholars have even begun to argue that the amendment might be applied to the government’s response to terror attacks and natural disasters, and to issues involving eminent domain and the militarization of the police.

    When the amendment was written in the eighteenth century, Americans and Englishmen in general believed that the issue of quartering troops in private homes was of great and palpable significance. During the course of their history the English had developed a deep dislike of standing armies; they especially objected to the government’s compelling them to quarter soldiers in their homes.

    Yet the English attitude was contradictory. At the same time as the English protested the quartering of troops in private homes, they were reluctant to house the soldiers in barracks separated from the civilian population. The English remained so suspicious of standing armies that they feared that concentrations of soldiers in barracks might pose military threats to the people’s liberties. Thus, the English concluded that if they had to have an army, it must be scattered among the populace and housed preferably in inns, alehouses, stables, and private homes. But as Parliament made clear in the Glorious Revolution of 1688-89, the government could not billet troops in private homes without the consent of the owners. So the English fear of standing armies was inextricably connected to their fear of having soldiers quartered in their homes without their consent.

    During the Seven Years War between Britain and France (called in the North American colonies the French and Indian War) the colonists who had inherited the traditional English fear of standing armies resented having to billet the British redcoats. Americans preferred to rely for their protection on local militia, not on professional soldiers. Although the peace treaty of 1763 ended the war and ousted France from the North American continent, the British government believed it still needed tens of thousands of soldiers in America in order to police the newly acquired territories. Since the earlier English quartering act did not extend to the colonies, Parliament in 1765 passed a Quartering Act that set down the regulations for housing soldiers in the American colonies during time of peace. The colonists were to provide barracks for the soldiers, and if they were not available, the troops were to be billeted in inns, stables, and alehouses; if these were insufficient, the governors and councils of the provinces were authorized to use uninhabited houses, barns, and other buildings to lodge the soldiers. The colonists were required to furnish provisions and necessaries for the troops, including firewood, bedding, and beer.

    The colonies, particularly the province of New York, objected to this act, especially as it obliged them to raise money to support the soldiers without the consent of their provincial legislatures. Tensions over the presence of British soldiers in the colonies increased. In 1768 royal troops were redeployed to Boston, Massachusetts, to assist with law enforcement in a colony that seethed with resentment against British authority. Many Bostonians became convinced that this standing army quartered among them in time of peace in violation of English law was designed to overwhelm them with military force. With nearly four thousand redcoats billeted in a town of fifteen thousand civilians, it was only a matter of time before an incident occurred. On March 5, 1770, nervous British soldiers fired upon a hostile crowd and killed five civilians, resulting in what the colonists called the Boston Massacre. 

    In the eyes of the British government Boston seemed to be a hotbed of fanaticism. The Tea Party in December 1773, in which patriots threw £10,000 of tea into Boston harbor, confirmed this view and led Parliament in 1774 to pass the Coercive Acts, among which was a new Quartering Act. This act went beyond the earlier statute by authorizing the royal governors to order the billeting of soldiers in private homes if the colonists refused to provide other lodging.

    These British actions lay behind the Continental Congress’s expressions of American grievance. In its Declaration and Resolves on October 14, 1774, Congress protested the presence in a time of peace of a standing army and the quartering of troops in the colonies without their consent. Then in the Declaration of Independence of 1776, two of the many accusations Congress leveled against the king were his keeping “among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the Consent or our Legislatures,” and his “quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us.”

    Many of the Revolutionary state constitutions drafted in 1776-77 included provisions warning of the dangers of standing armies in peacetime and stating, as the Virginia Bill of Rights of 1776 did, “That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free State.” Some state constitutions also affirmed, as did the Delaware Declaration of Rights of 1776, “that no soldiers ought to be quartered in any house in time of peace without the consent of the owner, and in time of war in such manner only as the legislature shall direct.” Thus when the new federal Congress came to write the Third Amendment to the Constitution in 1789, it had considerable experience and precedent to rely on. There was nothing new about the Third Amendment; it simply declared what had become conventional American wisdom.

    sourceGordon S. Wood Alva O. Way University Professor and Professor of History Emeritus at Brown University  
     
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    The Third Amendment seems to have no direct constitutional relevance at present; indeed, not only is it the least litigated amendment in the Bill of Rights, but the Supreme Court has never decided a case on the basis of it.....
    wonder if the court actually took this case what John Roberts court could determine of the ruling of said secretive team accommodations during state visits.
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    wonder if the court actually took this case what John Roberts court could determine of the ruling of said secretive team accommodations during state visits.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    the sum you admirably revealed is a collection of the costs the white house has spent in the travel the president has done.

    so this sum would include the Japan Prime ministers golf trip.
    the presidents day rally's in florida, the movements within white houses air force one,
    the logistics of the security concerns of guarding our asset The President of the United states.

    you are addressing costs, and within that cost how much does it cost for one hour of flight time for air force one. for the first flight , then how much does it cost to continue the program after start up costs are determined.

    I do not follow your reasoning at all. Are you suggesting that all of these additional and associated costs related to Trump's travel were not present for Obama???????

    So Trump spending almost as much in one month as Obama did in a whole year is a function of all of these additional costs that magically were not present during Obama's terms?????

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    the sum you admirably revealed is a collection of the costs the white house has spent in the travel the president has done.

    so this sum would include the Japan Prime ministers golf trip.
    the presidents day rally's in florida, the movements within white houses air force one,
    the logistics of the security concerns of guarding our asset The President of the United states.

    you are addressing costs, and within that cost how much does it cost for one hour of flight time for air force one. for the first flight , then how much does it cost to continue the program after start up costs are determined.

    I do not follow your reasoning at all. Are you suggesting that all of these additional and associated costs related to Trump's travel were not present for Obama???????

    So Trump spending almost as much in one month as Obama did in a whole year is a function of all of these additional costs that magically were not present during Obama's terms?????

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    I do not follow your reasoning at all. Are you suggesting that all of these additional and associated costs related to Trump's travel were not present for Obama???????

    So Trump spending almost as much in one month as Obama did in a whole year is a function of all of these additional costs that magically were not present during Obama's terms?????


    of course they were but obamas team was not staying at trump hotels, more a budget inn sort of fair....
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    I do not follow your reasoning at all. Are you suggesting that all of these additional and associated costs related to Trump's travel were not present for Obama???????

    So Trump spending almost as much in one month as Obama did in a whole year is a function of all of these additional costs that magically were not present during Obama's terms?????


    of course they were but obamas team was not staying at trump hotels, more a budget inn sort of fair....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 3:08 PM ET #15

    if it was my security and your bill
     them boys be dining on cavier lobster salmon rib eye every night.
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    if it was my security and your bill
     them boys be dining on cavier lobster salmon rib eye every night.
     
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    touche
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    The following I do know. The stock market's value is up and estimated 2 trillion dollars since 8 November. This is the biggest move in history. Does anybody on the fake news sights mention this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    touche

    seemed like you were argueing that we should be able to treat security officers shabbily, and let them drool as leaders feast, cause4 they just the help. had to see what the intention was in prevailing arguement.
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    touche

    seemed like you were argueing that we should be able to treat security officers shabbily, and let them drool as leaders feast, cause4 they just the help. had to see what the intention was in prevailing arguement.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The following I do know. The stock market's value is up and estimated 2 trillion dollars since 8 November. This is the biggest move in history. Does anybody on the fake news sights mention this?
    this does not agree with scott smellys talking point list you have to go to bloomberg for digesting this type of data.
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    The following I do know. The stock market's value is up and estimated 2 trillion dollars since 8 November. This is the biggest move in history. Does anybody on the fake news sights mention this?
    this does not agree with scott smellys talking point list you have to go to bloomberg for digesting this type of data.
     
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    American's have more confidence in the economy now than they have since George Washington crossed the Delaware. There is only 1 reason for this. President Trump. Scott Smelley (sp?) is fake news.
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2017 - 4:38 PM ET #21

    Dow, S&P, Nasdaq and Russell notch new record highs, up more than 10% since election
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    more deflection from the deplorables (nature70 and sundance) .. not surprised at all

    Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump secret service protection on business trips to open a new "Golf Club" in Dubai costed American Taxpayers millions of dollars

    Neither Donald Jr nor Eric were conducting US government business.

    Eric and Donald Jr, who run the Trump Organisation, receive Secret Service protection as members of the US President’s immediate family. 

    The pair arrived in the United Arab Emirates on Saturday for a ceremony to formally open the Trump International Golf Club in Dubai. 

    Eric’s visit to Uruguay on a business trip to check on the progress of the Trump Tower in January is said to have cost US taxpayers almost $100,000 (£80,000) to cover his security costs.

    In New York, the city is paying $500,000 a day to guard Trump Tower, according to police officials’ estimates, an amount that could reach $183 million a year.  

    Obama's daughters were minors, not businesswomen making deals on behalf of their fathers
    When and where does it stop ?

    Each trip to Mar-a-Lago costs an estimated $3 million or more

    Trump could have used Camp David to host Prime Minsiter Abe.

    It's easier for Secret Service to protect the president and his guets at Camp David


    Mar-a-Lago 3, Camp David 0


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    more deflection from the deplorables (nature70 and sundance) .. not surprised at all

    Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump secret service protection on business trips to open a new "Golf Club" in Dubai costed American Taxpayers millions of dollars

    Neither Donald Jr nor Eric were conducting US government business.

    Eric and Donald Jr, who run the Trump Organisation, receive Secret Service protection as members of the US President’s immediate family. 

    The pair arrived in the United Arab Emirates on Saturday for a ceremony to formally open the Trump International Golf Club in Dubai. 

    Eric’s visit to Uruguay on a business trip to check on the progress of the Trump Tower in January is said to have cost US taxpayers almost $100,000 (£80,000) to cover his security costs.

    In New York, the city is paying $500,000 a day to guard Trump Tower, according to police officials’ estimates, an amount that could reach $183 million a year.  

    Obama's daughters were minors, not businesswomen making deals on behalf of their fathers
    When and where does it stop ?

    Each trip to Mar-a-Lago costs an estimated $3 million or more

    Trump could have used Camp David to host Prime Minsiter Abe.

    It's easier for Secret Service to protect the president and his guets at Camp David


    Mar-a-Lago 3, Camp David 0


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    suppose going to the National museum for black history would be considered a complete waste of time and resources as well?


    You are comparing apples to Oranges
    You need to engage your brain

    National museum for black history address:
     14th St and Constitution Ave, NW, Washington, DC 20001, United States

    INational museum for black history in Washington and visiting a historical museum for those who were wronged by the US government is NOT a waste  of time.

    There was no J*E*W*S concentration camp in America but VP Pence visited a Nazi concentration camp in Germany. Are you going to call Pence's visit a waste of time ? 

    “I grew up with a front row seat to the American dream,” Pence said. “The heroes of my childhood were Martin Luther King Jr. and John F. Kennedy… but I was inspired by the ideals of our 40th president and became a Republican.”


     The state only kept polling places open until 6 p.m. during the May primary, although most states keep their polls open to 8 p.m. or even later. Indiana doesn’t have any laws that require employers to allow workers to leave work to go vote. 
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    suppose going to the National museum for black history would be considered a complete waste of time and resources as well?


    You are comparing apples to Oranges
    You need to engage your brain

    National museum for black history address:
     14th St and Constitution Ave, NW, Washington, DC 20001, United States

    INational museum for black history in Washington and visiting a historical museum for those who were wronged by the US government is NOT a waste  of time.

    There was no J*E*W*S concentration camp in America but VP Pence visited a Nazi concentration camp in Germany. Are you going to call Pence's visit a waste of time ? 

    “I grew up with a front row seat to the American dream,” Pence said. “The heroes of my childhood were Martin Luther King Jr. and John F. Kennedy… but I was inspired by the ideals of our 40th president and became a Republican.”


     The state only kept polling places open until 6 p.m. during the May primary, although most states keep their polls open to 8 p.m. or even later. Indiana doesn’t have any laws that require employers to allow workers to leave work to go vote. 
     
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    In contrast, King said in his 1957 speech called “Give Us The Ballot,” “So long as I do not firmly and irrevocably possess the right to vote I do not possess myself. I cannot make up my mind. It is made up for me. I cannot live as a democratic citizen, observing the laws I have helped to enact. I can only submit to the edict of others.”
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    trump has over 19 family members on the secret service watch

    930 plus secret service detail. one floor of the trump tower has been retrofit'd to acquire a headquarter. similar to tower 7 of the world trade center back in 2001 when it had emergency headquartered on one of its floor. which did not make it.


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    trump has over 19 family members on the secret service watch

    930 plus secret service detail. one floor of the trump tower has been retrofit'd to acquire a headquarter. similar to tower 7 of the world trade center back in 2001 when it had emergency headquartered on one of its floor. which did not make it.


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