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Taxpayers will be forced to provide billions in direct corporate bailout cash infusions.............

President Obama's legacy .. this Obamacare disaster is going down the tubes and taxpayers will have pick up the tab. The exchanges are about to collapse....some of the biggest insurance companies amid mounting losses are heading for the exits..

UnitedHealth is pulling out completely,Humana is pulling out 88% of the counties  it was in..Aetna will exit too, unless it gets a huge, annual infusion of direct corporate bailout payments from taxpayers.,,Some states are already down to just a single insurance company..

Obamacare was doomed to fail by not being structured to offer products people actually wanted..According to the March 2016 CBO analysis there will be 27M uninsured in 2022 and 51M without the ACA provision..

If,elected Trump will repeal and replace Obamacare with something terrific..His alternative adheres to free-market principles..he’d get rid of restrictions on the interstate sale of health insurance and not required anyone  buy insurance unless he or she wants to...

Trump will call for individuals to be able to deduct health insurance premiums from their income taxes.............

 
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Who knows what trump will do... He has no real track record in government or actual legislation or voting...

But that's perfect for the mentality of the trump supporter that some how trump will fix everything magically...

Reminds me of Obama the magic negro but the emotional racist lemming's version 
 
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If,Hillary gets in and starts adding all of the illegals and Moslem refugees to the ObamaCare rolls. . that will be the end of healthcare in this country...
 
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Yup waving the white flag...  When ever trump is mentioned or analyzed the Failed strategy of thinking that chicken little histrionics can be paired with credibility...

If the GOP or even trump supporters could showcase and explain the actual positives of trump, they would... But with this level of uncertainty and trump being so unpredictable, the white flag of surrender is waved and the discussion is spun to ripping trump's opponent because there is  nothing to sell America on other than don't vote for the opponent of trump... 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

If,Hillary gets in and starts adding all of the illegals and Moslem refugees to the ObamaCare rolls. . that will be the end of healthcare in this country...

Well, the problem is we are already paying for their healthcare. The only question is whether they are added to insurance. See EMTALA.
 
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According to politico, most insurers are commited to offering Obamacare plans and exchanges are unlikely to implode.  Few insurers are abandoning exchanges.  United Health still remains in States that are profitable.  Many are willing to accept financial losses so they can keep securing big profits from Medicare and Medicaid business.

Any law as ambitious and complex as Obamacare is going to be a work in progress.  But problems aren't insurmountable.  In countries with universal healthcare, years of reforms were necessary but worthwhile in the long run..
 
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Any law as ambitious and complex as Obamacare is going to be a work in progress


you know what might help?  stay with me here as this is going to be a pretty radical idea, but what if democrats had a competing party of adults that actually presented good ideas to improve healthcare rather than whining all of the time and blaming obama for everything?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

Any law as ambitious and complex as Obamacare is going to be a work in progress


you know what might help?  stay with me here as this is going to be a pretty radical idea, but what if democrats had a competing party of adults that actually presented good ideas to improve healthcare rather than whining all of the time and blaming obama for everything?


Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?
 
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doesnt help that the hospitals charge 850-1100 for a chest x ray or 20$ for a pill of advil that doesnt work.
 
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Vermont's single payer system is too easy and destroys for profit health insurance industry
So we got a super mitt system
But States still can dictate what insurance providor can sell health insurance in their area and the fed has a new revenue source of you can't afford it you will me fined.
 
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Loll everything suddenly got too real 
 
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At least 6 swing states face double-digit premium hikes under Obamacare..........

Dramatic increases on premiums in Wisconsin and Florida as well as Michigan, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina..these projected hikes may bode well for Donald Trump in Nov.

The Kaiser Family Foundation report that revealed low cost plans under Obamacare face a 11 % hike. The District of Columbia is facing a 21% hike in premiums while Portland is facing a 26 % hike. New York City faces a 16% increase in premiums.

Under the law consumers impacted by the double-digit increases are expected to see the hikes around Nov.1st—one week before the national election,,but since the law doesn't seem to mean much to this administration ..expect a postponement of the announcements..
 
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..and while all this is happening ...We’re still waiting for our $2,500 annual savings....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

Any law as ambitious and complex as Obamacare is going to be a work in progress


you know what might help?  stay with me here as this is going to be a pretty radical idea, but what if democrats had a competing party of adults that actually presented good ideas to improve healthcare rather than whining all of the time and blaming obama for everything?

He doesn't get it... Lol
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

Any law as ambitious and complex as Obamacare is going to be a work in progress


you know what might help?  stay with me here as this is going to be a pretty radical idea, but what if democrats had a competing party of adults that actually presented good ideas to improve healthcare rather than whining all of the time and blaming obama for everything?

CD,

In fairness, that competing party you speak of which lacks cooperation, is simply the party on the other side of the aisle. 
Before O was blamed for everything, GWB was.
HRC is next. None of this is new.

As for Obamacare itself, I will only comment from my personal experience.
This is a family plan.
Pre-O-care my premium was $14,000 annually, with a $5,000 deductible.
Post-O-care my premium is $19,800 annually, with a $10,000 deductible.
The Post-O-care deductible is per family member.
This past year I had 2 family members require medical assistance (which is not the norm)
For the year I paid $40,000 for health coverage.
Pre Obama, it would have cost me $19,000.

As more insurers pull out of O-care, I will venture a guess to say that HRC will give them more perks to stay in.
In political speak, perks = government kickbacks.
Gov't kickbacks = more taxes.
More taxes are not paid by the people who are helped by O-care, they are paid by the schleps who are already funding O-care ... people like ME! 

By the time HRC finishes her term, can I expect to be paying less or more for health insurance? (rhetorical question)

If I sound like I'm whining, it is because I am.
Sometimes whining is justified.
Here's my idea as how to fix O-care ... pull the plug on it!

It's not as if my taxes weren't already paying for the health care of the impoverished 


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*disclaimer, the following comes from a biased news source (this needs to be stated, as anything not coming from a liberal news source is deemed as biased around here) 

Everything you ever wanted to know about Obamacare is right here.
Feel free to refute/dispute anything within, but please bring some facts to the discussion.




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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

Any law as ambitious and complex as Obamacare is going to be a work in progress


you know what might help?  stay with me here as this is going to be a pretty radical idea, but what if democrats had a competing party of adults that actually presented good ideas to improve healthcare rather than whining all of the time and blaming obama for everything?

So when bush was being blamed for everything that was different. When it's Obama it now, suddenly qualifies as whining. Smh
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