my bad
SEMI automatic.
Was not trying to imply that he was carrying around a fully automatic weapon
Er, you have no idea whether or not ballistic tests were conducted as the police still have Zimmerman's handgun.
Your assertions regarding officers on the scene "questioning" Zimmerman are meaningless. And in fact, they would not be best served by questioning him since he was injured and was going to be taken to the station for questioning.
Further, as the New York Times reported:
The day after the shooting, George Zimmerman, according to his father, returned with at least three police officers to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, back to that grassy area where plaintive cries for help had gone unanswered. The investigators, accompanied by someone with a video camera, wanted him to re-enact the events of the night when the two strangers had stood their ground.
Mr. Zimmerman’s father watched from nearby. “They started where his vehicle was,” he recalled. “They walked him down the sidewalk and to the end of the sidewalk, to the street where he got an address and then walked him back towards his vehicle, near where the incident occurred.”
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I think you need to stop asserting there was no "immediate investigation"
Ballastic tests go far beyond testing the gun that was fired. They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
And it is laughable to suggest they would not question him at the scene, before Miranda kicked in. Perhaps you should review Chapter 14 of The Police Officers Handbook by Robert Sterling.
As far as his alleged injury. it is also protocal to transport anyone with injuries to proper medical facilities. An interrogation at a police station of an injured suspect only leads to arguments as to any statements on voluntariness grounds.
Finally, nothing in the police reports suggest that Zimmerman returned to the scene.
Of course, you know all this considering you are an attorney.
Er, you have no idea whether or not ballistic tests were conducted as the police still have Zimmerman's handgun.
Your assertions regarding officers on the scene "questioning" Zimmerman are meaningless. And in fact, they would not be best served by questioning him since he was injured and was going to be taken to the station for questioning.
Further, as the New York Times reported:
The day after the shooting, George Zimmerman, according to his father, returned with at least three police officers to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, back to that grassy area where plaintive cries for help had gone unanswered. The investigators, accompanied by someone with a video camera, wanted him to re-enact the events of the night when the two strangers had stood their ground.
Mr. Zimmerman’s father watched from nearby. “They started where his vehicle was,” he recalled. “They walked him down the sidewalk and to the end of the sidewalk, to the street where he got an address and then walked him back towards his vehicle, near where the incident occurred.”
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I think you need to stop asserting there was no "immediate investigation"
Ballastic tests go far beyond testing the gun that was fired. They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
And it is laughable to suggest they would not question him at the scene, before Miranda kicked in. Perhaps you should review Chapter 14 of The Police Officers Handbook by Robert Sterling.
As far as his alleged injury. it is also protocal to transport anyone with injuries to proper medical facilities. An interrogation at a police station of an injured suspect only leads to arguments as to any statements on voluntariness grounds.
Finally, nothing in the police reports suggest that Zimmerman returned to the scene.
Of course, you know all this considering you are an attorney.
If the weirdo walking behind you was a white-Hispanic Democrat,you probably did the best thing..
If the weirdo walking behind you was a white-Hispanic Democrat,you probably did the best thing..
They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
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How would you know?
They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
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How would you know?
Finally, nothing in the police reports suggest that Zimmerman returned to the scene.
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Right.
And nothing in the police report said Martin had Skittles or iced tea.
You don't believe that right?
Or are you pretending that because something isn't a) available to the public or b) in a police report, it doesn't exist?
Finally, nothing in the police reports suggest that Zimmerman returned to the scene.
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Right.
And nothing in the police report said Martin had Skittles or iced tea.
You don't believe that right?
Or are you pretending that because something isn't a) available to the public or b) in a police report, it doesn't exist?
They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
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How would you know?
Because it is impossible to perform such tests after the victim/dead party is buried.
They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
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How would you know?
Because it is impossible to perform such tests after the victim/dead party is buried.
Because it is impossible to perform such tests after the victim/dead party is buried.
My guess is that the on scene evidence and witness statements were soo good that Zimmermans story made the most sense and caused them to accept that as what happened.
Because it is impossible to perform such tests after the victim/dead party is buried.
My guess is that the on scene evidence and witness statements were soo good that Zimmermans story made the most sense and caused them to accept that as what happened.
Because it is impossible to perform such tests after the victim/dead party is buried.
That's great, but um
Jackelyn Barnard, spokeswoman for State Attorney Angela Corey's office, addressed her office's position via e-mail to the IBTimes on Wednesday:
"The autopsy report cannot be released at this time," she wrote. "By law, we are not allowed to release any information/documents involved in the investigation."
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You have no idea which tests were done at the scene or by the medical examiner's office.
No idea.
Because it is impossible to perform such tests after the victim/dead party is buried.
That's great, but um
Jackelyn Barnard, spokeswoman for State Attorney Angela Corey's office, addressed her office's position via e-mail to the IBTimes on Wednesday:
"The autopsy report cannot be released at this time," she wrote. "By law, we are not allowed to release any information/documents involved in the investigation."
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You have no idea which tests were done at the scene or by the medical examiner's office.
No idea.
They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
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In other words, you have no proof for this claim.
They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
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In other words, you have no proof for this claim.
Ballastic tests go far beyond testing the gun that was fired. They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
Note:
The Volusia County Medical Examiner's office, the body that "independently, objectively and scientifically determines the cause and manner of death under certain circumstances," handled the autopsy.
For now, that report remains under seal, spokesman Dave Byron told The Times. It has been forwarded to the Seminole County branch of the Florida state attorney's office and won't be made public while the investigation is pending.
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Ballastic tests go far beyond testing the gun that was fired. They include an examination of the wound to determine distance, angles, trajectory, and powder burns. None of which was done here.
Note:
The Volusia County Medical Examiner's office, the body that "independently, objectively and scientifically determines the cause and manner of death under certain circumstances," handled the autopsy.
For now, that report remains under seal, spokesman Dave Byron told The Times. It has been forwarded to the Seminole County branch of the Florida state attorney's office and won't be made public while the investigation is pending.
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My guess is that the on scene evidence and witness statements were soo good that Zimmermans story made the most sense and caused them to accept that as what happened.
That's why the police wanted to arrest Zimmerman at the scene because his story didn't add up.
My guess is that the on scene evidence and witness statements were soo good that Zimmermans story made the most sense and caused them to accept that as what happened.
That's why the police wanted to arrest Zimmerman at the scene because his story didn't add up.
That's great, but um
Jackelyn Barnard, spokeswoman for State Attorney Angela Corey's office, addressed her office's position via e-mail to the IBTimes on Wednesday:
"The autopsy report cannot be released at this time," she wrote. "By law, we are not allowed to release any information/documents involved in the investigation."
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You have no idea which tests were done at the scene or by the medical examiner's office.
No idea.
Interesting that an attorney doesn't know the difference between wound ballistics and an autopsy.
How much criminal work do you do again?
That's great, but um
Jackelyn Barnard, spokeswoman for State Attorney Angela Corey's office, addressed her office's position via e-mail to the IBTimes on Wednesday:
"The autopsy report cannot be released at this time," she wrote. "By law, we are not allowed to release any information/documents involved in the investigation."
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You have no idea which tests were done at the scene or by the medical examiner's office.
No idea.
Interesting that an attorney doesn't know the difference between wound ballistics and an autopsy.
How much criminal work do you do again?
Agreed.
Except the bullet wound was to the chest. That is referenced in both the police report and the funeral director's examination of the body.
Since the wound was still fresh and untreated (because he could not tell the entry nor exit point), they failed to perform tests.
As I have said before, this failure cuts both ways for Zimmerman as it could have supported his version of events.
Agreed.
Except the bullet wound was to the chest. That is referenced in both the police report and the funeral director's examination of the body.
Since the wound was still fresh and untreated (because he could not tell the entry nor exit point), they failed to perform tests.
As I have said before, this failure cuts both ways for Zimmerman as it could have supported his version of events.
Personally, I don't think the family wants to hear any more of the evidence. Imagine if the bus driver came forward. Or the owners of the missing jewelry.
The family wants us to see him as the innocent 12 year old and not the young man that was developing a pattern of suspensions and trouble.
Personally, I don't think the family wants to hear any more of the evidence. Imagine if the bus driver came forward. Or the owners of the missing jewelry.
The family wants us to see him as the innocent 12 year old and not the young man that was developing a pattern of suspensions and trouble.
1.A gun by itself is not a threat.
2. A person standing in front of you giving you a dirty look is cause fro an elevation of awareness but not a threat.
3. Scenario 2 + a holstered gun is yet another elevation of awareness yet still not a threat.
4. Scenario 3 only becomes a threat at the moment that intent to use the gun on you or someone else is manifested.
5. Scenario 2 could be a threat if the person punches you in the face and slams your head repeatedly in the ground. Irregardless of all actions up to that point.
I think that will hold up to any argument.
GSM
IPC
*Chirping*
1.A gun by itself is not a threat.
2. A person standing in front of you giving you a dirty look is cause fro an elevation of awareness but not a threat.
3. Scenario 2 + a holstered gun is yet another elevation of awareness yet still not a threat.
4. Scenario 3 only becomes a threat at the moment that intent to use the gun on you or someone else is manifested.
5. Scenario 2 could be a threat if the person punches you in the face and slams your head repeatedly in the ground. Irregardless of all actions up to that point.
I think that will hold up to any argument.
GSM
IPC
*Chirping*
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