.....and it came from? (definitely not Trump!) I may have mentioned this before in another post, but my trip to Nazi sites, stadiums and gathering places for Hitler in Germany was extremely chilling and thrilling at the same time.....it gave me a sense of place and where humanity should not ever be given what we know where the circumstances after could take you if accepted/embraced by society. And, all through the 2-3 hr exhibits, I occasionally heard the name Trump in peoples conversations around me in all types of foreign languages, as well as some visiting Americans/Canadians....
So, this line from Hillary resonates in a big way:
“He says he wants to ‘make America great again,’ but his real message remains ‘make America hate again.’” Comment that followed from undecided Republican voter:
“Man, this speech was brutal, and completely justified,” Tom Nichols, a U.S. Naval War College professor, said on Twitter. “I hate Trumpers for making me feel good about a Clinton speech.”
Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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.....and it came from? (definitely not Trump!) I may have mentioned this before in another post, but my trip to Nazi sites, stadiums and gathering places for Hitler in Germany was extremely chilling and thrilling at the same time.....it gave me a sense of place and where humanity should not ever be given what we know where the circumstances after could take you if accepted/embraced by society. And, all through the 2-3 hr exhibits, I occasionally heard the name Trump in peoples conversations around me in all types of foreign languages, as well as some visiting Americans/Canadians....
So, this line from Hillary resonates in a big way:
“He says he wants to ‘make America great again,’ but his real message remains ‘make America hate again.’” Comment that followed from undecided Republican voter:
“Man, this speech was brutal, and completely justified,” Tom Nichols, a U.S. Naval War College professor, said on Twitter. “I hate Trumpers for making me feel good about a Clinton speech.”
Another comparison of Trump to Hitler? Interestingly pathetic.
On social issues I tend to be left of center, but I am quick to recognize when people/media/politicians use the racial bigotry card to try to gain an advantage.
From my perspective, according to those who want to paint Trump as being a bigot, their main talking point is his stance on illegal immigrants, and Muslims coming here from the Middle East.
Personally, I believe this to be nothing more than 'politically correct' BS.
So Trump wants to enforce the laws of this country ... OMG, he's a racist/bigot/Hitler!!!!!
If anyone is here illegally, they should be shown the door.
We have laws and everyone should abide by them. I do, and I expect everyone else to do the same.
As for a temporary ban on Muslim immigrants, I do not fully agree with Trump. But the fact is we are living in a different world than ever before, and as such there are new threats to our safety and our way of life.
Don't take my word for it, just ask France
bigreds daddy
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Another comparison of Trump to Hitler? Interestingly pathetic.
On social issues I tend to be left of center, but I am quick to recognize when people/media/politicians use the racial bigotry card to try to gain an advantage.
From my perspective, according to those who want to paint Trump as being a bigot, their main talking point is his stance on illegal immigrants, and Muslims coming here from the Middle East.
Personally, I believe this to be nothing more than 'politically correct' BS.
So Trump wants to enforce the laws of this country ... OMG, he's a racist/bigot/Hitler!!!!!
If anyone is here illegally, they should be shown the door.
We have laws and everyone should abide by them. I do, and I expect everyone else to do the same.
As for a temporary ban on Muslim immigrants, I do not fully agree with Trump. But the fact is we are living in a different world than ever before, and as such there are new threats to our safety and our way of life.
The thing we have to fear, is fear itself........and you sir, are full of fear and don't want to live and let live. France is the home of American freedom and democracy and they are not cowering in their way of life and nor should America.......just be smart and diligent about repelling the threat, not deepening the threat. Inciting terrorists is far worse than monitoring and acting against them while allowing citizens to live in the French/American philosophy of a free society. The Europeans don't live in fear like Americans and don't carry guns despite all of the recent goings on.....but the more inciting and inflaming the terrorists they do, the more they will get.
Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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The thing we have to fear, is fear itself........and you sir, are full of fear and don't want to live and let live. France is the home of American freedom and democracy and they are not cowering in their way of life and nor should America.......just be smart and diligent about repelling the threat, not deepening the threat. Inciting terrorists is far worse than monitoring and acting against them while allowing citizens to live in the French/American philosophy of a free society. The Europeans don't live in fear like Americans and don't carry guns despite all of the recent goings on.....but the more inciting and inflaming the terrorists they do, the more they will get.
NO.....just a passion to discuss, inform....debate and correct if necessary. But I realize that ultimately, like sports, politics is a game so if you wish to play, play...but don't question the game or how the participants are 'paid' for playing it.....supposed to be for fun, purposeful and leisure like any sport.
Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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NO.....just a passion to discuss, inform....debate and correct if necessary. But I realize that ultimately, like sports, politics is a game so if you wish to play, play...but don't question the game or how the participants are 'paid' for playing it.....supposed to be for fun, purposeful and leisure like any sport.
The thing we have to fear, is fear itself........and you sir, are full of fear and don't want to live and let live. France is the home of American freedom and democracy and they are not cowering in their way of life and nor should America.......just be smart and diligent about repelling the threat, not deepening the threat. Inciting terrorists is far worse than monitoring and acting against them while allowing citizens to live in the French/American philosophy of a free society. The Europeans don't live in fear like Americans and don't carry guns despite all of the recent goings on.....but the more inciting and inflaming the terrorists they do, the more they will get.
DUMBEST CRAP I HAVE EVER READ.....
Muslims are Muslims....They have been killing and invading for 1400 years now.....THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.....This is what they do...They are killing Christians or person somewhere, someplace, RIGHT NOW--AS WE SPEAK
You cannot possibly incite or inflame them----They are incited and inflamed as soon as they are born...
WAKE UP YOU LEFTIST IDIOTS......Europe is almost DEAD already...Trump will ban them from the USA......You talk about "hate"......IT IS THE MUSLIMS THAT HATE AND KILL....Trump and his supporters see the truth....Liberals are too stupid to see the truth...God help us if Hillary somehow wins and brings in millions and millions more.
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Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:
The thing we have to fear, is fear itself........and you sir, are full of fear and don't want to live and let live. France is the home of American freedom and democracy and they are not cowering in their way of life and nor should America.......just be smart and diligent about repelling the threat, not deepening the threat. Inciting terrorists is far worse than monitoring and acting against them while allowing citizens to live in the French/American philosophy of a free society. The Europeans don't live in fear like Americans and don't carry guns despite all of the recent goings on.....but the more inciting and inflaming the terrorists they do, the more they will get.
DUMBEST CRAP I HAVE EVER READ.....
Muslims are Muslims....They have been killing and invading for 1400 years now.....THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.....This is what they do...They are killing Christians or person somewhere, someplace, RIGHT NOW--AS WE SPEAK
You cannot possibly incite or inflame them----They are incited and inflamed as soon as they are born...
WAKE UP YOU LEFTIST IDIOTS......Europe is almost DEAD already...Trump will ban them from the USA......You talk about "hate"......IT IS THE MUSLIMS THAT HATE AND KILL....Trump and his supporters see the truth....Liberals are too stupid to see the truth...God help us if Hillary somehow wins and brings in millions and millions more.
She is as clever as my middle finger. LA Times of all papers has Trump up by 1. Landslide building. Blacks will not come out in droves for her like they did for Obama. The 'silent' Trump votes trounces Hillary.
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She is as clever as my middle finger. LA Times of all papers has Trump up by 1. Landslide building. Blacks will not come out in droves for her like they did for Obama. The 'silent' Trump votes trounces Hillary.
Muslims are Muslims....They have been killing and invading for 1400 years now.....THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.....This is what they do...They are killing Christians or person somewhere, someplace, RIGHT NOW--AS WE SPEAK
You cannot possibly incite or inflame them----They are incited and inflamed as soon as they are born...
WAKE UP YOU LEFTIST IDIOTS......Europe is almost DEAD already...Trump will ban them from the USA......You talk about "hate"......IT IS THE MUSLIMS THAT HATE AND KILL....Trump and his supporters see the truth....Liberals are too stupid to see the truth...God help us if Hillary somehow wins and brings in millions and millions more.
Some Muslims you freaking crybaby and fearest.....would be scared of your own ghost. Not all people are bad from a culture or ethnicity. Its harder for the bad ones, more than ever, to get into a country with so much security and eyes looking for them. Your argument is idiotic and racsist born out of your own cries in the dark as a young child from the moonlight flooding your room every 28 days...
Go get some help for your paranoia and fears..
Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:
DUMBEST CRAP I HAVE EVER READ.....
Muslims are Muslims....They have been killing and invading for 1400 years now.....THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.....This is what they do...They are killing Christians or person somewhere, someplace, RIGHT NOW--AS WE SPEAK
You cannot possibly incite or inflame them----They are incited and inflamed as soon as they are born...
WAKE UP YOU LEFTIST IDIOTS......Europe is almost DEAD already...Trump will ban them from the USA......You talk about "hate"......IT IS THE MUSLIMS THAT HATE AND KILL....Trump and his supporters see the truth....Liberals are too stupid to see the truth...God help us if Hillary somehow wins and brings in millions and millions more.
Some Muslims you freaking crybaby and fearest.....would be scared of your own ghost. Not all people are bad from a culture or ethnicity. Its harder for the bad ones, more than ever, to get into a country with so much security and eyes looking for them. Your argument is idiotic and racsist born out of your own cries in the dark as a young child from the moonlight flooding your room every 28 days...
Muslims are Muslims....They have been killing and invading for 1400 years now.....THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.....This is what they do...They are killing Christians or person somewhere, someplace, RIGHT NOW--AS WE SPEAK
You cannot possibly incite or inflame them----They are incited and inflamed as soon as they are born...
WAKE UP YOU LEFTIST IDIOTS......Europe is almost DEAD already...Trump will ban them from the USA......You talk about "hate"......IT IS THE MUSLIMS THAT HATE AND KILL....Trump and his supporters see the truth....Liberals are too stupid to see the truth...God help us if Hillary somehow wins and brings in millions and millions more.
I guess you are going to move to North Korea or Russia? (its about all you got for warped minded fascist-like people like you.....the rest of the world is dealing with the issue that is temporary....and I will point out, all of this started with BUSH I and BUSH II so you fukked up right wingers don't know how to clean it up, only how to stir up the hornets nest!!)
Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:
DUMBEST CRAP I HAVE EVER READ.....
Muslims are Muslims....They have been killing and invading for 1400 years now.....THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.....This is what they do...They are killing Christians or person somewhere, someplace, RIGHT NOW--AS WE SPEAK
You cannot possibly incite or inflame them----They are incited and inflamed as soon as they are born...
WAKE UP YOU LEFTIST IDIOTS......Europe is almost DEAD already...Trump will ban them from the USA......You talk about "hate"......IT IS THE MUSLIMS THAT HATE AND KILL....Trump and his supporters see the truth....Liberals are too stupid to see the truth...God help us if Hillary somehow wins and brings in millions and millions more.
I guess you are going to move to North Korea or Russia? (its about all you got for warped minded fascist-like people like you.....the rest of the world is dealing with the issue that is temporary....and I will point out, all of this started with BUSH I and BUSH II so you fukked up right wingers don't know how to clean it up, only how to stir up the hornets nest!!)
She is as clever as my middle finger. LA Times of all papers has Trump up by 1. Landslide building. Blacks will not come out in droves for her like they did for Obama. The 'silent' Trump votes trounces Hillary.
Someone on another page is offering 7-1 for any Trump takers at $250 a pop...I suggest you go and take it if you are so sure.....it blows my mind how people can love a flipflopper like Trump who will side with enemies, lie, hate, change his mind, ignore information and basically make fools out of you extreme right wingers...yet you cling to the man like he is Al Capone......well, you know how that story ended. Hillary is not the best candidate ever but she is the only one given the circumstances...which is why she is -425 in VEGAS and they dont like to lose money so people like you are certainly helping the betting even out a little by taking Trump. Vegas by the way, was built WHEN AL CAPONE WAS PUSHED OUT OF THE WAY CAUSE HE WAS TOO RADICAL FOR BUSINESS GOING FORWARD FOR THE MOB....Trump is the same. I am a closet Republican but Trump is bad for the 'family'.
Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
She is as clever as my middle finger. LA Times of all papers has Trump up by 1. Landslide building. Blacks will not come out in droves for her like they did for Obama. The 'silent' Trump votes trounces Hillary.
Someone on another page is offering 7-1 for any Trump takers at $250 a pop...I suggest you go and take it if you are so sure.....it blows my mind how people can love a flipflopper like Trump who will side with enemies, lie, hate, change his mind, ignore information and basically make fools out of you extreme right wingers...yet you cling to the man like he is Al Capone......well, you know how that story ended. Hillary is not the best candidate ever but she is the only one given the circumstances...which is why she is -425 in VEGAS and they dont like to lose money so people like you are certainly helping the betting even out a little by taking Trump. Vegas by the way, was built WHEN AL CAPONE WAS PUSHED OUT OF THE WAY CAUSE HE WAS TOO RADICAL FOR BUSINESS GOING FORWARD FOR THE MOB....Trump is the same. I am a closet Republican but Trump is bad for the 'family'.
Someone on another page is offering 7-1 for any Trump takers at $250 a pop...I suggest you go and take it if you are so sure.....it blows my mind how people can love a flipflopper like Trump who will side with enemies, lie, hate, change his mind, ignore information and basically make fools out of you extreme right wingers...yet you cling to the man like he is Al Capone......well, you know how that story ended. Hillary is not the best candidate ever but she is the only one given the circumstances...which is why she is -425 in VEGAS and they dont like to lose money so people like you are certainly helping the betting even out a little by taking Trump. Vegas by the way, was built WHEN AL CAPONE WAS PUSHED OUT OF THE WAY CAUSE HE WAS TOO RADICAL FOR BUSINESS GOING FORWARD FOR THE MOB....Trump is the same. I am a closet Republican but Trump is bad for the 'family'.
I am the guy offering 7-1 on a Trump win. But as always there is a catch. If Trump doesn't reach 201 electoral votes than I get paid 7-1. It's actually a very fair bet. (this offer expires after labor day)
"Make America hate again" is an ok line from her speech but not very original. For me, the best line of her Reno speech was "We all know that Trump will deport 11 million illegals".
He has absolutely no idea what he is going to do with them. The campaign changes positions hourly on this issue. She is forcing his hand on this issue that has become toxic for his campaign.
Flip flopping on a major campaign promise made during the primaries is suicide. But the general electorate is against mass deportations. I'll just kick back and watch his meltdown continue.
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Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:
Someone on another page is offering 7-1 for any Trump takers at $250 a pop...I suggest you go and take it if you are so sure.....it blows my mind how people can love a flipflopper like Trump who will side with enemies, lie, hate, change his mind, ignore information and basically make fools out of you extreme right wingers...yet you cling to the man like he is Al Capone......well, you know how that story ended. Hillary is not the best candidate ever but she is the only one given the circumstances...which is why she is -425 in VEGAS and they dont like to lose money so people like you are certainly helping the betting even out a little by taking Trump. Vegas by the way, was built WHEN AL CAPONE WAS PUSHED OUT OF THE WAY CAUSE HE WAS TOO RADICAL FOR BUSINESS GOING FORWARD FOR THE MOB....Trump is the same. I am a closet Republican but Trump is bad for the 'family'.
I am the guy offering 7-1 on a Trump win. But as always there is a catch. If Trump doesn't reach 201 electoral votes than I get paid 7-1. It's actually a very fair bet. (this offer expires after labor day)
"Make America hate again" is an ok line from her speech but not very original. For me, the best line of her Reno speech was "We all know that Trump will deport 11 million illegals".
He has absolutely no idea what he is going to do with them. The campaign changes positions hourly on this issue. She is forcing his hand on this issue that has become toxic for his campaign.
Flip flopping on a major campaign promise made during the primaries is suicide. But the general electorate is against mass deportations. I'll just kick back and watch his meltdown continue.
Muslims are Muslims....They have been killing and invading for 1400 years now.....THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.....This is what they do...They are killing Christians or person somewhere, someplace, RIGHT NOW--AS WE SPEAK
You cannot possibly incite or inflame them----They are incited and inflamed as soon as they are born...
WAKE UP YOU LEFTIST IDIOTS......Europe is almost DEAD already...Trump will ban them from the USA......You talk about "hate"......IT IS THE MUSLIMS THAT HATE AND KILL....Trump and his supporters see the truth....Liberals are too stupid to see the truth...God help us if Hillary somehow wins and brings in millions and millions more.
Muslims are Muslims? It's like lumping all Christianity together and saying it am he same thing. Or saying the westboro baptist church is chilristianity and there for all Christians are the same as them.
It's like you discredit yourself on the first sentence so your emotional in rant in caps not only looks crazy but it looks misinformed. It's just so Ironic that you call others stupid.
So what is your solution? Do you even have one that makes sense?
Better yet, what exactly is trumps solution?
Or do you just use this forum as a means of spouting off anger and frustration and blame anyone and anything else for your life?
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Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:
DUMBEST CRAP I HAVE EVER READ.....
Muslims are Muslims....They have been killing and invading for 1400 years now.....THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.....This is what they do...They are killing Christians or person somewhere, someplace, RIGHT NOW--AS WE SPEAK
You cannot possibly incite or inflame them----They are incited and inflamed as soon as they are born...
WAKE UP YOU LEFTIST IDIOTS......Europe is almost DEAD already...Trump will ban them from the USA......You talk about "hate"......IT IS THE MUSLIMS THAT HATE AND KILL....Trump and his supporters see the truth....Liberals are too stupid to see the truth...God help us if Hillary somehow wins and brings in millions and millions more.
Muslims are Muslims? It's like lumping all Christianity together and saying it am he same thing. Or saying the westboro baptist church is chilristianity and there for all Christians are the same as them.
It's like you discredit yourself on the first sentence so your emotional in rant in caps not only looks crazy but it looks misinformed. It's just so Ironic that you call others stupid.
So what is your solution? Do you even have one that makes sense?
Better yet, what exactly is trumps solution?
Or do you just use this forum as a means of spouting off anger and frustration and blame anyone and anything else for your life?
Muslims are Muslims? It's like lumping all Christianity together and saying it am he same thing. Or saying the westboro baptist church is chilristianity and there for all Christians are the same as them.
It's like you discredit yourself on the first sentence so your emotional in rant in caps not only looks crazy but it looks misinformed. It's just so Ironic that you call others stupid.
So what is your solution? Do you even have one that makes sense?
Better yet, what exactly is trumps solution?
Or do you just use this forum as a means of spouting off anger and frustration and blame anyone and anything else for your life?
Answers: Paragraph one....Hundreds of terror attacks commited by muslims every week around the world, with women and children as their main targets...I see no other religion doing this. Yes?..No ?..
Paragraph two: I have always hated stupid and incompetent people....Persons who CANNOT see the stupidity in admitting millions of people to our country who DO NOT BELONG HERE because of their violent beliefs......Well!!....they are stupid.
(3) Trump is a work in progress....He will evolve and start to correct the errors of the last 50 years....At least he has ideas to start working on solutions......The dimwit demonRATS with Hitlery in charge will just give us more of the same problems...BRING IN millions more to go immediately on welfare and all the while scheming on how to kill us and institute sharia law.
(4) It's back to the stupidity thing again....I cannot stand stupid comments....I must point out the stupidity to others, that is why I respond back ......And YES, dl36 You indeed qualify as one of the most idiotic, stupid, posters this forum has ever seen.
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
Muslims are Muslims? It's like lumping all Christianity together and saying it am he same thing. Or saying the westboro baptist church is chilristianity and there for all Christians are the same as them.
It's like you discredit yourself on the first sentence so your emotional in rant in caps not only looks crazy but it looks misinformed. It's just so Ironic that you call others stupid.
So what is your solution? Do you even have one that makes sense?
Better yet, what exactly is trumps solution?
Or do you just use this forum as a means of spouting off anger and frustration and blame anyone and anything else for your life?
Answers: Paragraph one....Hundreds of terror attacks commited by muslims every week around the world, with women and children as their main targets...I see no other religion doing this. Yes?..No ?..
Paragraph two: I have always hated stupid and incompetent people....Persons who CANNOT see the stupidity in admitting millions of people to our country who DO NOT BELONG HERE because of their violent beliefs......Well!!....they are stupid.
(3) Trump is a work in progress....He will evolve and start to correct the errors of the last 50 years....At least he has ideas to start working on solutions......The dimwit demonRATS with Hitlery in charge will just give us more of the same problems...BRING IN millions more to go immediately on welfare and all the while scheming on how to kill us and institute sharia law.
(4) It's back to the stupidity thing again....I cannot stand stupid comments....I must point out the stupidity to others, that is why I respond back ......And YES, dl36 You indeed qualify as one of the most idiotic, stupid, posters this forum has ever seen.
1. But to lump all Muslims together as the same is neither accurate nor realistic. Comparisons with other religions is meaningless and does not prove your point that all Muslims and offshoots are the same as the most violent and extreme. Look even at a large country like India and the history of violence against Muslims.
You calling other stupid who do not agree with you really says it all. You did a good job showing how people like you think. Nothing more for me to say on that. You pretty much discredited yourself there along with you crazy caps and your angry emotional positing.
Trump is a work in progress? Lol what does that even mean?
He working on solutions? What are his solutions and how hard these specific solutions going to result in specific outcomes? And what are those outcomes? Can you articulate that? Or are you coming from a low information standpoint about your own candidate? It looks like it when I asked for your solutions or trumps and you are completely unable to provide that. Giving you a second chance here to answer these questions.
I make no jabs, personal attacks or games. Yet you tee off launching this onslaught of abusive name calling, calling me one of the most idiotic, stupid, posters this forum as has ever seen?
But ofcourse this is what those in charge want. I simply ask questions and point out some things a it what you are saying in a civil manner and you have free reign to be abusive and insulting.
Funny how that works.
Hopefully you can answer my questions in a civil and coherent manner. I put the most important part in bold to help you and promote a civil dialog, but considering what you have displayed so far and those in charge wanting it to be exactly like this, I am not confident that you will be able or willing to man up and answer the questions in bold
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1. But to lump all Muslims together as the same is neither accurate nor realistic. Comparisons with other religions is meaningless and does not prove your point that all Muslims and offshoots are the same as the most violent and extreme. Look even at a large country like India and the history of violence against Muslims.
You calling other stupid who do not agree with you really says it all. You did a good job showing how people like you think. Nothing more for me to say on that. You pretty much discredited yourself there along with you crazy caps and your angry emotional positing.
Trump is a work in progress? Lol what does that even mean?
He working on solutions? What are his solutions and how hard these specific solutions going to result in specific outcomes? And what are those outcomes? Can you articulate that? Or are you coming from a low information standpoint about your own candidate? It looks like it when I asked for your solutions or trumps and you are completely unable to provide that. Giving you a second chance here to answer these questions.
I make no jabs, personal attacks or games. Yet you tee off launching this onslaught of abusive name calling, calling me one of the most idiotic, stupid, posters this forum as has ever seen?
But ofcourse this is what those in charge want. I simply ask questions and point out some things a it what you are saying in a civil manner and you have free reign to be abusive and insulting.
Funny how that works.
Hopefully you can answer my questions in a civil and coherent manner. I put the most important part in bold to help you and promote a civil dialog, but considering what you have displayed so far and those in charge wanting it to be exactly like this, I am not confident that you will be able or willing to man up and answer the questions in bold
Trump is a work in progress? Lol what does that even mean? Should we wait till 2024 when he is ready to actually be president? Please explain
He is working on solutions? What are his solutions and how are these specific solutions going to result in specific outcomes? And what are those outcomes? Can you articulate that? Or are you coming from a low information standpoint about your own candidate? It looks like it when I asked for your solutions or trump's and you are completely unable to provide that. Giving you a third chance here to answer these questions.
Jimmy,
I cleaned this up a bit, sorry for the typos. I wanted to make it as easy as possible for you to engage in an intelligent and civil dialog by answering the questions about the statements you made.
Looking forward to hearing you response with out the jab, insults, personal attacks and games as I have done absolutely none that and yet there you go bashing me.
Funny how that works out
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
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Trump is a work in progress? Lol what does that even mean? Should we wait till 2024 when he is ready to actually be president? Please explain
He is working on solutions? What are his solutions and how are these specific solutions going to result in specific outcomes? And what are those outcomes? Can you articulate that? Or are you coming from a low information standpoint about your own candidate? It looks like it when I asked for your solutions or trump's and you are completely unable to provide that. Giving you a third chance here to answer these questions.
Jimmy,
I cleaned this up a bit, sorry for the typos. I wanted to make it as easy as possible for you to engage in an intelligent and civil dialog by answering the questions about the statements you made.
Looking forward to hearing you response with out the jab, insults, personal attacks and games as I have done absolutely none that and yet there you go bashing me.
The thing we have to fear, is fear itself........and you sir, are full of fear and don't want to live and let live. France is the home of American freedom and democracy and they are not cowering in their way of life and nor should America
I have no fear. Not of Muslims, nor ISIS, nor discussing topics with you.
I never suggested that France was cowering. If you would like to have a discussion with me you will need to remain on topic, sans twisting of words in order to gain a perceived, albeit wrong, advantage.
I will quote myself so you can follow along without misinterpreting ...
"But the fact is we are living in a different world than ever before, and as such there are new threats to our safety and our way of life. Don't take my word for it, just ask France"
Clearly I referenced France as having had the experience that we are living in a world with a different set of threats than we were previously. France is not cowering, nor is America.
Now please try to stay on topic.
You say we should "live and let live", which is certainly what we do here.
Unfortunately, terrorists don't have that same philosophy.
That is not fear talking, that is facts
bigreds daddy
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Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:
The thing we have to fear, is fear itself........and you sir, are full of fear and don't want to live and let live. France is the home of American freedom and democracy and they are not cowering in their way of life and nor should America
I have no fear. Not of Muslims, nor ISIS, nor discussing topics with you.
I never suggested that France was cowering. If you would like to have a discussion with me you will need to remain on topic, sans twisting of words in order to gain a perceived, albeit wrong, advantage.
I will quote myself so you can follow along without misinterpreting ...
"But the fact is we are living in a different world than ever before, and as such there are new threats to our safety and our way of life. Don't take my word for it, just ask France"
Clearly I referenced France as having had the experience that we are living in a world with a different set of threats than we were previously. France is not cowering, nor is America.
Now please try to stay on topic.
You say we should "live and let live", which is certainly what we do here.
Unfortunately, terrorists don't have that same philosophy.
I guess you are going to move to North Korea or Russia? (its about all you got for warped minded fascist-like people like you.....the rest of the world is dealing with the issue that is temporary....and I will point out, all of this started with BUSH I and BUSH II so you fukked up right wingers don't know how to clean it up, only how to stir up the hornets nest!!)
I see you are a calm, objective individual
So much for civil discussion
bigreds daddy
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Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:
I guess you are going to move to North Korea or Russia? (its about all you got for warped minded fascist-like people like you.....the rest of the world is dealing with the issue that is temporary....and I will point out, all of this started with BUSH I and BUSH II so you fukked up right wingers don't know how to clean it up, only how to stir up the hornets nest!!)
She is as clever as my middle finger. LA Times of all papers has Trump up by 1. Landslide building. Blacks will not come out in droves for her like they did for Obama. The 'silent' Trump votes trounces Hillary.
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
She is as clever as my middle finger. LA Times of all papers has Trump up by 1. Landslide building. Blacks will not come out in droves for her like they did for Obama. The 'silent' Trump votes trounces Hillary.
"Make America hate again" is an ok line from her speech but not very original. For me, the best line of her Reno speech was "We all know that Trump will deport 11 million illegals".
Saying Trump will deport illegals, however many there are, is a good line???
I'm sorry, but I can not comprehend why removing someone who is here illegally is a bad thing.
I'm open to varying opinions on this, and the subsequent dialogue, as long as it can be done without name calling and blatant stupidity
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Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:
"Make America hate again" is an ok line from her speech but not very original. For me, the best line of her Reno speech was "We all know that Trump will deport 11 million illegals".
Saying Trump will deport illegals, however many there are, is a good line???
I'm sorry, but I can not comprehend why removing someone who is here illegally is a bad thing.
I'm open to varying opinions on this, and the subsequent dialogue, as long as it can be done without name calling and blatant stupidity
Saying Trump will deport illegals, however many there are, is a good line???
I'm sorry, but I can not comprehend why removing someone who is here illegally is a bad thing.
I'm open to varying opinions on this, and the subsequent dialogue, as long as it can be done without name calling and blatant stupidity
I am speaking about illegal immigration as it relates to the state of THIS race.........Clinton v Trump.
The message of deporting families is not popular with the general electorate. Just as Trump was softening his position on amnesty, HRC said that he won't soften. It was a politically clever move.
Trump has to either soften his position and risk upsetting some of his Primary voters who believed Trump's claim to deport all illegals OR he has to remain married to his position of mass deportations, which is a losing argument in the suburbs and makes him look divisive. Divisive can win a gop primary. Can it win a general?
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Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:
Saying Trump will deport illegals, however many there are, is a good line???
I'm sorry, but I can not comprehend why removing someone who is here illegally is a bad thing.
I'm open to varying opinions on this, and the subsequent dialogue, as long as it can be done without name calling and blatant stupidity
I am speaking about illegal immigration as it relates to the state of THIS race.........Clinton v Trump.
The message of deporting families is not popular with the general electorate. Just as Trump was softening his position on amnesty, HRC said that he won't soften. It was a politically clever move.
Trump has to either soften his position and risk upsetting some of his Primary voters who believed Trump's claim to deport all illegals OR he has to remain married to his position of mass deportations, which is a losing argument in the suburbs and makes him look divisive. Divisive can win a gop primary. Can it win a general?
We are hopelessly deadlocked....The liberals on this politics forum will NEVER see the light, they love hillary and the d-rats way of business.
There is is NO possible way to reason with them as they have no common sense.
Might as well talk to your car...You'll have better luck.
Talking to your car is what it feels like talking to you as you were given clear and simple questions concerning your own statements and yet you Fail to give anything that resembles a coherent response.
As someone that is not a liberal and will not be voting for Hillary your sorry rhetoric is rendered useless in a civil and rational disucssion. Perhaps that is why you continue to scurry off with your tail between your legs frightened that your rhetoric and emotional talking points will
Not hold up to the light of day. It is ironic that you of all people say others won't see the light when you can't even articulate what your seeing or even saying.
Seems like anyone with common sense could follow a basic conversation and man up and answer questions.
Keep running
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Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:
We are hopelessly deadlocked....The liberals on this politics forum will NEVER see the light, they love hillary and the d-rats way of business.
There is is NO possible way to reason with them as they have no common sense.
Might as well talk to your car...You'll have better luck.
Talking to your car is what it feels like talking to you as you were given clear and simple questions concerning your own statements and yet you Fail to give anything that resembles a coherent response.
As someone that is not a liberal and will not be voting for Hillary your sorry rhetoric is rendered useless in a civil and rational disucssion. Perhaps that is why you continue to scurry off with your tail between your legs frightened that your rhetoric and emotional talking points will
Not hold up to the light of day. It is ironic that you of all people say others won't see the light when you can't even articulate what your seeing or even saying.
Seems like anyone with common sense could follow a basic conversation and man up and answer questions.
Talking to your car is what it feels like talking to you as you were given clear and simple questions concerning your own statements and yet you Fail to give anything that resembles a coherent response.
As someone that is not a liberal and will not be voting for Hillary your sorry rhetoric is rendered useless in a civil and rational disucssion. Perhaps that is why you continue to scurry off with your tail between your legs frightened that your rhetoric and emotional talking points will
Not hold up to the light of day. It is ironic that you of all people say others won't see the light when you can't even articulate what your seeing or even saying.
Seems like anyone with common sense could follow a basic conversation and man up and answer questions.
Keep running
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How can a person answer your inane questions when there is NO answer to many of the questions?.... You love to bait just about everyone that posts on this site....That's all you do....bait.
You questioned one of my comments that"Trump was a work in progress"
You said lol..."what does that mean"...like who does not know that term?
It means he has never held public office and there is no possible way for anyone to know exactly what he will do....but, since he is a smart, competent person, he will grow into the position and do the right thing for the country...and ALL the citizens
You bait by saying "what are his solutions and how are these going to result in specific outcomes"
Come on now...There are dozens of negative issues regarding our nation that need to be addressed....All the way from Veterans care to the NATO issue to immigration...and more...
If anyone could answer your question they would need a crystal ball and special powers.....YET...NOBODY aks these kinds of questions to hillary.........Know why?.....She does't take any questions...
Advice to dl36.....Start asking intelligent questions to your "lemming" friends on this forum.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by dl36]
Talking to your car is what it feels like talking to you as you were given clear and simple questions concerning your own statements and yet you Fail to give anything that resembles a coherent response.
As someone that is not a liberal and will not be voting for Hillary your sorry rhetoric is rendered useless in a civil and rational disucssion. Perhaps that is why you continue to scurry off with your tail between your legs frightened that your rhetoric and emotional talking points will
Not hold up to the light of day. It is ironic that you of all people say others won't see the light when you can't even articulate what your seeing or even saying.
Seems like anyone with common sense could follow a basic conversation and man up and answer questions.
Keep running
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How can a person answer your inane questions when there is NO answer to many of the questions?.... You love to bait just about everyone that posts on this site....That's all you do....bait.
You questioned one of my comments that"Trump was a work in progress"
You said lol..."what does that mean"...like who does not know that term?
It means he has never held public office and there is no possible way for anyone to know exactly what he will do....but, since he is a smart, competent person, he will grow into the position and do the right thing for the country...and ALL the citizens
You bait by saying "what are his solutions and how are these going to result in specific outcomes"
Come on now...There are dozens of negative issues regarding our nation that need to be addressed....All the way from Veterans care to the NATO issue to immigration...and more...
If anyone could answer your question they would need a crystal ball and special powers.....YET...NOBODY aks these kinds of questions to hillary.........Know why?.....She does't take any questions...
Advice to dl36.....Start asking intelligent questions to your "lemming" friends on this forum.
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