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    Please Vote for Gary and please, please LET HIM DEBATE

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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 10:03 AM ET #1

    Everywhere I go, I hear the same lament, "what terrible candidates we have to choose from". Yet, there is another.

    VOTE FOR GARY

    Many say he cannot win. I do not care. Do not let the pundits talk you into a corner and not voting for the only logical candidate. 
    Many say a Vote for Gary is really a vote for Trump/Clinton. This one is almost comical to me, as I hear it split 50/50 in Trump and Clinton supporters. It is not a vote for one of them, it is a Vote for Gary. If enough like minded people can come together, Gary can and will WIN!

    If you hate the Donald like I do
    If you hate the Clintons like I do


    Then do the only rational thing and VOTE FOR GARY!!!

    Thanks for your time


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Everywhere I go, I hear the same lament, "what terrible candidates we have to choose from". Yet, there is another.

    VOTE FOR GARY

    Many say he cannot win. I do not care. Do not let the pundits talk you into a corner and not voting for the only logical candidate. 
    Many say a Vote for Gary is really a vote for Trump/Clinton. This one is almost comical to me, as I hear it split 50/50 in Trump and Clinton supporters. It is not a vote for one of them, it is a Vote for Gary. If enough like minded people can come together, Gary can and will WIN!

    If you hate the Donald like I do
    If you hate the Clintons like I do


    Then do the only rational thing and VOTE FOR GARY!!!

    Thanks for your time


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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 10:33 AM ET #2

    Gary isnt doing himself too many favors with how dumb he seems in the media lately.

    I'd pass on him given his obvious confusions. He is coming off as some inexperienced hick to be honest.
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    Gary isnt doing himself too many favors with how dumb he seems in the media lately.

    I'd pass on him given his obvious confusions. He is coming off as some inexperienced hick to be honest.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 12:08 PM ET #3

    Gary Johnson fumbled twice in his own 5-yard line on the Aleppo question and the "Aleppo Moment", that should doom his 15% debate chance for good, CD. 
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    Gary Johnson fumbled twice in his own 5-yard line on the Aleppo question and the "Aleppo Moment", that should doom his 15% debate chance for good, CD. 
     
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    I am voting for Gary.  Protest vote because we only have two major party candidates from which to choose.  This country needs a Third Party.  The Two Party system has failed us repeatedly. 

    I will say this about Trump.  Every time you throw him to the wolves he comes back leading the pack.
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    I am voting for Gary.  Protest vote because we only have two major party candidates from which to choose.  This country needs a Third Party.  The Two Party system has failed us repeatedly. 

    I will say this about Trump.  Every time you throw him to the wolves he comes back leading the pack.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 12:52 PM ET #5

    Johnson can siphon votes from Hillary Colorado and new Mexico voted for Obama those states are needed to remain blue. His legalize marijuana platform could disrupt Clinton's.ride to 1600 Pennsylvania so media blackout on favorable press. What's allepo a ruin in the middle East.
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    Johnson can siphon votes from Hillary Colorado and new Mexico voted for Obama those states are needed to remain blue. His legalize marijuana platform could disrupt Clinton's.ride to 1600 Pennsylvania so media blackout on favorable press. What's allepo a ruin in the middle East.
     
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    Johnson can siphon votes from Hillary Colorado and new Mexico voted for Obama those states are needed to remain blue. His legalize marijuana platform could disrupt Clinton's.ride to 1600 Pennsylvania so media blackout on favorable press. What's allepo a ruin in the middle East.
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    Johnson can siphon votes from Hillary Colorado and new Mexico voted for Obama those states are needed to remain blue. His legalize marijuana platform could disrupt Clinton's.ride to 1600 Pennsylvania so media blackout on favorable press. What's allepo a ruin in the middle East.
     
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    There will never be a third party in this country.
     


    Why do I say this? 

    Because a third party dilutes the power of the other 2 parties.

    Show me where in past human history, those with the most power and influence within a society ever abdicated it willingly? 


    Divide and Conquer     

    Nobody has ever done it better than Democrats and Republicans



    For those of you in Rio Linda, I'm not dissing a third party, of course it would be a good thing. 








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    There will never be a third party in this country.
     


    Why do I say this? 

    Because a third party dilutes the power of the other 2 parties.

    Show me where in past human history, those with the most power and influence within a society ever abdicated it willingly? 


    Divide and Conquer     

    Nobody has ever done it better than Democrats and Republicans



    For those of you in Rio Linda, I'm not dissing a third party, of course it would be a good thing. 








     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 1:15 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Gary isnt doing himself too many favors with how dumb he seems in the media lately.

    I'd pass on him given his obvious confusions. He is coming off as some inexperienced hick to be honest.

    Honestly, it was not a fumble to me. I had no idea what Aleppo is and I have a doctorate. Do you ever just wonder why the media has only shown this in the last month and none of his stump speeches or political platform?  They are afraid of him, it is that plain and simple.

    Just do me a favor, watch him. Listen to him. Check out his qualifications and see if he does not come off better than the BIG 2.

    The Donald, literally scares the hell out of me. When he has his first temper tantrum with some other megalomaniac, we are going to end up in another war.

    The Hillary is part of the machine and the biggest liar on the planet. If you want to vote for her, then take her but she is a POS.

    Gary is honest and not really a politician, how refreshing is that?

    The government was created to be run the people who are looking to benefit the people. We have two people running that are obviously looking to benefit the establishment and themselves. I would much rather have an earnest, honest guy guiding my country who will try to make the best decisions for all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Gary isnt doing himself too many favors with how dumb he seems in the media lately.

    I'd pass on him given his obvious confusions. He is coming off as some inexperienced hick to be honest.

    Honestly, it was not a fumble to me. I had no idea what Aleppo is and I have a doctorate. Do you ever just wonder why the media has only shown this in the last month and none of his stump speeches or political platform?  They are afraid of him, it is that plain and simple.

    Just do me a favor, watch him. Listen to him. Check out his qualifications and see if he does not come off better than the BIG 2.

    The Donald, literally scares the hell out of me. When he has his first temper tantrum with some other megalomaniac, we are going to end up in another war.

    The Hillary is part of the machine and the biggest liar on the planet. If you want to vote for her, then take her but she is a POS.

    Gary is honest and not really a politician, how refreshing is that?

    The government was created to be run the people who are looking to benefit the people. We have two people running that are obviously looking to benefit the establishment and themselves. I would much rather have an earnest, honest guy guiding my country who will try to make the best decisions for all.


     
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    Europa, biggest respect for you as you saw the Donald as a real candidate when I thought he was still just trying to promote his next TV show.

    I am amazed that the American public is buying into this but it may be like Obama 8 years ago. We all want change and he is obviously change. He also taps into the angry white man voter to a tee. I am sad to say, most of my friends love him. It makes me honestly feel bad about myself.  
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    Europa, biggest respect for you as you saw the Donald as a real candidate when I thought he was still just trying to promote his next TV show.

    I am amazed that the American public is buying into this but it may be like Obama 8 years ago. We all want change and he is obviously change. He also taps into the angry white man voter to a tee. I am sad to say, most of my friends love him. It makes me honestly feel bad about myself.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    Europa, biggest respect for you as you saw the Donald as a real candidate when I thought he was still just trying to promote his next TV show.

    I am amazed that the American public is buying into this but it may be like Obama 8 years ago. We all want change and he is obviously change. He also taps into the angry white man voter to a tee. I am sad to say, most of my friends love him. It makes me honestly feel bad about myself.  

    That's probably how Trump blew away other 16 candidates in the GOP primaries. However, there is a difference between bipartisan primaries and the general election though. White men alone can not win him the presidency, CD, let alone Trump has his own issues with those college educated white men.     



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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    Europa, biggest respect for you as you saw the Donald as a real candidate when I thought he was still just trying to promote his next TV show.

    I am amazed that the American public is buying into this but it may be like Obama 8 years ago. We all want change and he is obviously change. He also taps into the angry white man voter to a tee. I am sad to say, most of my friends love him. It makes me honestly feel bad about myself.  

    That's probably how Trump blew away other 16 candidates in the GOP primaries. However, there is a difference between bipartisan primaries and the general election though. White men alone can not win him the presidency, CD, let alone Trump has his own issues with those college educated white men.     



     
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    Johnson seems likable but I'm afraid you need to have some knowledge about foreign affairs.  How can he not possibly name a foreign leader he respects?  That's just bad.  I actually think his running mate (Weld) is more qualified than he is but the party nominated Johnson because they felt he appealed to people better.
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    Johnson seems likable but I'm afraid you need to have some knowledge about foreign affairs.  How can he not possibly name a foreign leader he respects?  That's just bad.  I actually think his running mate (Weld) is more qualified than he is but the party nominated Johnson because they felt he appealed to people better.
     
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    Johnson will not be elected. Media and the 6 corporation that run the snooze stations have endorsed HRC the only coverage will be Bad donald and great killary in news coverage media . Johnson and the libertarians will not be heard as anyone in positional power has already anointed Queen Hillary as our supreme leader for the next 8 years. This would be a perfect year for johnson however establishment democrats and Republicans have already anointed our next presidential office.
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    Johnson will not be elected. Media and the 6 corporation that run the snooze stations have endorsed HRC the only coverage will be Bad donald and great killary in news coverage media . Johnson and the libertarians will not be heard as anyone in positional power has already anointed Queen Hillary as our supreme leader for the next 8 years. This would be a perfect year for johnson however establishment democrats and Republicans have already anointed our next presidential office.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Johnson will not be elected. Media and the 6 corporation that run the snooze stations have endorsed HRC the only coverage will be Bad donald and great killary in news coverage media . Johnson and the libertarians will not be heard as anyone in positional power has already anointed Queen Hillary as our supreme leader for the next 8 years. This would be a perfect year for johnson however establishment democrats and Republicans have already anointed our next presidential office.

    No argument here, you may very well be right. All I am saying is let us get out and vote for Gary and see what happens.

    The Libertarians have a foreign policy position. It is one mostly of isolationism, which I happen to agree with. The last 20 years of wars in the Middle East have done nothing for the Middle East or us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Johnson will not be elected. Media and the 6 corporation that run the snooze stations have endorsed HRC the only coverage will be Bad donald and great killary in news coverage media . Johnson and the libertarians will not be heard as anyone in positional power has already anointed Queen Hillary as our supreme leader for the next 8 years. This would be a perfect year for johnson however establishment democrats and Republicans have already anointed our next presidential office.

    No argument here, you may very well be right. All I am saying is let us get out and vote for Gary and see what happens.

    The Libertarians have a foreign policy position. It is one mostly of isolationism, which I happen to agree with. The last 20 years of wars in the Middle East have done nothing for the Middle East or us.
     
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    u gotta be kidding , right ?

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    u gotta be kidding , right ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXFb0eSYjEA
     
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    Middle east will be at war. Under Obama/Clinton's state department we have Muslim brotherhoods take over of Egypt and Lybia
    We have daesh take over of northern Iraq and western Syria we have a race war erupting in America.
    Sooo sooo many good things to show from the hope for some change administration. We have pan handling legalized under freedom of speech we have black lives matter for organ donor clinics we have planned parenthood selling off the unborns body parts. And we can enjoy watching lesbian trapped in a boys body showering in the girls locker room at the high school. So many achievements....
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    Middle east will be at war. Under Obama/Clinton's state department we have Muslim brotherhoods take over of Egypt and Lybia
    We have daesh take over of northern Iraq and western Syria we have a race war erupting in America.
    Sooo sooo many good things to show from the hope for some change administration. We have pan handling legalized under freedom of speech we have black lives matter for organ donor clinics we have planned parenthood selling off the unborns body parts. And we can enjoy watching lesbian trapped in a boys body showering in the girls locker room at the high school. So many achievements....
     
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    We have given 400 mill to Iran to advance nuclear weapon research. We can honestly claim we are ahummed in phillipeans Turkey Saudi Arabia France England Japan China Russia Egypt. So many great achievements we are 20, trillion in debt. We can all pay 5000,a year for a health insurance policy that won't cover anything short of being hit by mack truck that makes the old.100,a month HMO look like a luxury to today's family of four. We can honestly say adult children living with mom and dad has skyrocketed a single job paying 1000 a week has been replaced by three jobs paying 600 a week. University expenses have expanded exponitionally and media has become this administration biggest cheerleader.
    It must be new and improved... It costs more and we get less.

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    We have given 400 mill to Iran to advance nuclear weapon research. We can honestly claim we are ahummed in phillipeans Turkey Saudi Arabia France England Japan China Russia Egypt. So many great achievements we are 20, trillion in debt. We can all pay 5000,a year for a health insurance policy that won't cover anything short of being hit by mack truck that makes the old.100,a month HMO look like a luxury to today's family of four. We can honestly say adult children living with mom and dad has skyrocketed a single job paying 1000 a week has been replaced by three jobs paying 600 a week. University expenses have expanded exponitionally and media has become this administration biggest cheerleader.
    It must be new and improved... It costs more and we get less.

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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 7:38 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    I am voting for Gary.  Protest vote because we only have two major party candidates from which to choose.  This country needs a Third Party.  The Two Party system has failed us repeatedly. 

    I will say this about Trump.  Every time you throw him to the wolves he comes back leading the pack.


    Protest vote ?    So, you are going to making the rest of us do the work of deciding...

    No problem.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    I am voting for Gary.  Protest vote because we only have two major party candidates from which to choose.  This country needs a Third Party.  The Two Party system has failed us repeatedly. 

    I will say this about Trump.  Every time you throw him to the wolves he comes back leading the pack.


    Protest vote ?    So, you are going to making the rest of us do the work of deciding...

    No problem.......


     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 1:21 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    u gotta be kidding , right ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXFb0eSYjEA



    I have to give it to you, he looks like an arse.
    I do not really care though. As I know his heart is in the right place and he can be trusted. You cannot say that for the Liar  or the Megalomaniac. They will both be running for agendas that do not advance that of the common American.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    u gotta be kidding , right ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXFb0eSYjEA



    I have to give it to you, he looks like an arse.
    I do not really care though. As I know his heart is in the right place and he can be trusted. You cannot say that for the Liar  or the Megalomaniac. They will both be running for agendas that do not advance that of the common American.



     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 7:04 AM ET #19

    Gary Johnson's presidential aspirations is going up in smoke......
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 7:18 AM ET #20

    If I had 2 votes they would both go to Trump....
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 9:48 AM ET #21

    Liberals call that double duty...
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 9:55 AM ET #22

    Megalomaniac, you hit the nail on the head doc!
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 10:55 AM ET #23

    No doubt that GJ will take away more vote from HRC than Trump.  At this point, I think having him in the debate will help her as the more he's getting scrutinized, the worse he looks, from What's Aleppo to can't naming living foreign leader to rationalizing don't care about climate change bc the sun will consume the earth in couple billion years anyway to answer "I don't know" when asked if it was wrong for US to enter WW2.
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    No doubt that GJ will take away more vote from HRC than Trump.  At this point, I think having him in the debate will help her as the more he's getting scrutinized, the worse he looks, from What's Aleppo to can't naming living foreign leader to rationalizing don't care about climate change bc the sun will consume the earth in couple billion years anyway to answer "I don't know" when asked if it was wrong for US to enter WW2.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 4:41 PM ET #24

    Gary Johnson was a fukkking RINO before the Libertarians offered him a National Stage that he would never have otherwise. As a citizen with Libertarian asperations for this country,this is the year that the LP over-stepped and this year every voter must mske a meaningful choice between 2 dramatic paths  for this Country.
    This is the year not to play High School Civics with your Vote..
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    Gary Johnson was a fukkking RINO before the Libertarians offered him a National Stage that he would never have otherwise. As a citizen with Libertarian asperations for this country,this is the year that the LP over-stepped and this year every voter must mske a meaningful choice between 2 dramatic paths  for this Country.
    This is the year not to play High School Civics with your Vote..
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 2:48 PM ET #25

    I voted for Gary the last election and again this year but his appeal is diminishing in my eyes. There is a lot I agree with and some things I don't.

    Gary will not win and I can not in good conscience vote for Hillary or The Donald. To me it doesn't matter who wins, we all get anyway in the end.

    Johnson is the "lesser of the evils" and if every election more people vote third party maybe, just maybe it will gain enough steam to break the stranglehold on the 2 party system. But that will be many MANY years down the road if ever.

    One can only hope, we are in serious need of a complete restructure of our government and judicial/legal systems. We are circling the drain on the current course.

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    I voted for Gary the last election and again this year but his appeal is diminishing in my eyes. There is a lot I agree with and some things I don't.

    Gary will not win and I can not in good conscience vote for Hillary or The Donald. To me it doesn't matter who wins, we all get anyway in the end.

    Johnson is the "lesser of the evils" and if every election more people vote third party maybe, just maybe it will gain enough steam to break the stranglehold on the 2 party system. But that will be many MANY years down the road if ever.

    One can only hope, we are in serious need of a complete restructure of our government and judicial/legal systems. We are circling the drain on the current course.

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