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10-16-20 as of 5pm EST  intertops..

To Win the Presidency --- Biden -227  Trump +160

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Well, I don't have odds to contribute but I will mention the most interesting piece of data I saw from an article.  Republicans are getting more registrations right now in critical swing states.  A Democratic strategist was alarmed about it.  Now what I don't know is how many Democrats were registered in 2016 and sat out.  The progressives who wouldn't vote for Hillary.  One customer I have said that's what Biden did wrong in the debate.  He lost them when he wouldn't embrace the Green New Deal.  I don't think it's the same scenario this time as 2016, meaning progressives are more willing to vote for Biden.  The ideals they cared about aren't as important now that the stakes have changed.  I just don't have enough data at my disposal to know if the registrations are dwarfed by the number of people who were apathetic.  I tend to think yes because that's ultimately why Hillary didn't win, in my opinion.  I realize numerous factors contributed to her losing but my firm belief is that the public generally didn't feel Trump could actually become president.  That's what caused the voter turnout in 2016 and that's why I see it changing in 2020.  

 
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Biden -227 and can not draw more than 10 people uunless they are  paid. 

Trump packs them in by the thousands everywhere and is +190!

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Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:

Well, I don't have odds to contribute but I will mention the most interesting piece of data I saw from an article.  Republicans are getting more registrations right now in critical swing states.  A Democratic strategist was alarmed about it.  Now what I don't know is how many Democrats were registered in 2016 and sat out.  The progressives who wouldn't vote for Hillary.  One customer I have said that's what Biden did wrong in the debate.  He lost them when he wouldn't embrace the Green New Deal.  I don't think it's the same scenario this time as 2016, meaning progressives are more willing to vote for Biden.  The ideals they cared about aren't as important now that the stakes have changed.  I just don't have enough data at my disposal to know if the registrations are dwarfed by the number of people who were apathetic.  I tend to think yes because that's ultimately why Hillary didn't win, in my opinion.  I realize numerous factors contributed to her losing but my firm belief is that the public generally didn't feel Trump could actually become president.  That's what caused the voter turnout in 2016 and that's why I see it changing in 2020.

The early numbers suggest Democrats are dwarfing Republicans in early voting, especially mail in voting. While the GOP may be registering voters late in critical swing states, you also have to consider that un-registered Democrats or those that sat out, likely registered a couple of years ago or even months ago to vote early, which is why we are seeing record turnout for early voting periods. That bodes well for Dems, which is the reason why GOP is trying to eliminate drop off at ballot boxes to suppress votes. an_light

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity: Well, I don't have odds to contribute but I will mention the most interesting piece of data I saw from an article.  Republicans are getting more registrations right now in critical swing states.  A Democratic strategist was alarmed about it.  Now what I don't know is how many Democrats were registered in 2016 and sat out.  The progressives who wouldn't vote for Hillary.  One customer I have said that's what Biden did wrong in the debate.  He lost them when he wouldn't embrace the Green New Deal.  I don't think it's the same scenario this time as 2016, meaning progressives are more willing to vote for Biden.  The ideals they cared about aren't as important now that the stakes have changed.  I just don't have enough data at my disposal to know if the registrations are dwarfed by the number of people who were apathetic.  I tend to think yes because that's ultimately why Hillary didn't win, in my opinion.  I realize numerous factors contributed to her losing but my firm belief is that the public generally didn't feel Trump could actually become president.  That's what caused the voter turnout in 2016 and that's why I see it changing in 2020. The early numbers suggest Democrats are dwarfing Republicans in early voting, especially mail in voting. While the GOP may be registering voters late in critical swing states, you also have to consider that un-registered Democrats or those that sat out, likely registered a couple of years ago or even months ago to vote early, which is why we are seeing record turnout for early voting periods. That bodes well for Dems, which is the reason why GOP is trying to eliminate drop off at ballot boxes to suppress votes.

Voters turn out would be the key winning formula for Biden/Harris ticket and down ballot candidates for Democrats. GOP is fully aware that, and desperately tries to suppress the voting. Over 18 millions of voters have repelled the GOP's voting suppression gimmick, and casted their votes as early as possible. I would guess that majority of these early votes going for Biden/Harris. 

It quite possible that next month, Bidden/Harris ticket will surpass 2008 Obama/Biden ticket's record votes of 69,498,516. 70,000,000 will be the magic number, over or under?    

 
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@Deezy- That supposition can't be corroborated and so I would suggest you are speculating at best.  How can you verify with any certainty that those voters weren't registered previously?  You could be right but there's no way to actually know without making a presumption.  I believe the voter participation rate is the most relevant statistic for the election and that's what I've based the majority of my opinions on.  There could actually be 5% or even 10% of eligible voters who were already registered but didn't bother voting because they thought it was a waste of time.  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:

@Deezy- That supposition can't be corroborated and so I would suggest you are speculating at best.  How can you verify with any certainty that those voters weren't registered previously?  You could be right but there's no way to actually know without making a presumption.  I believe the voter participation rate is the most relevant statistic for the election and that's what I've based the majority of my opinions on.  There could actually be 5% or even 10% of eligible voters who were already registered but didn't bother voting because they thought it was a waste of time.

You are correct. It is pure speculation. Just saying no one really started studying the registration rates for voters in swing districts until a few weeks ago. So claiming Republicans are dominating in registering those voters is speculation too because we do not know when other previous unregistered signed up to vote (say 6 months ago, a year ago etc). I also think that voter participation is the best barometer for making predictions. Currently, it looks good for Dems. Should be an interesting next couple of weeks. an_cheers

 
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Correction. Trump +160.

 
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odds at all books swinging back to Trump as they should.peace_5peace

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October 17th

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Biden -175

Trump +155

 

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I have 2 large locals 

One is in the City of Buffalo , and said he bettors were pounding BIDEN at plus odds and were still betting him at -175 ...He stopped taking action today , and said he is praying for a trump win like 2016 when he won a boatload ...

My other local is in a rural area where Trump flags are everywhere...He is offering Trump at +165 while saying 9/10 bets are on Trump ...He thinks Biden wins In a landslide although he has never voted for a Democrat

 In his life ...

 

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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity: Well, I don't have odds to contribute but I will mention the most interesting piece of data I saw from an article.  Republicans are getting more registrations right now in critical swing states.  A Democratic strategist was alarmed about it.  Now what I don't know is how many Democrats were registered in 2016 and sat out.  The progressives who wouldn't vote for Hillary.  One customer I have said that's what Biden did wrong in the debate.  He lost them when he wouldn't embrace the Green New Deal.  I don't think it's the same scenario this time as 2016, meaning progressives are more willing to vote for Biden.  The ideals they cared about aren't as important now that the stakes have changed.  I just don't have enough data at my disposal to know if the registrations are dwarfed by the number of people who were apathetic.  I tend to think yes because that's ultimately why Hillary didn't win, in my opinion.  I realize numerous factors contributed to her losing but my firm belief is that the public generally didn't feel Trump could actually become president.  That's what caused the voter turnout in 2016 and that's why I see it changing in 2020. The early numbers suggest Democrats are dwarfing Republicans in early voting, especially mail in voting. While the GOP may be registering voters late in critical swing states, you also have to consider that un-registered Democrats or those that sat out, likely registered a couple of years ago or even months ago to vote early, which is why we are seeing record turnout for early voting periods. That bodes well for Dems, which is the reason why GOP is trying to eliminate drop off at ballot boxes to suppress votes. Voters turn out would be the key winning formula for Biden/Harris ticket and down ballot candidates for Democrats. GOP is fully aware that, and desperately tries to suppress the voting. Over 18 millions of voters have repelled the GOP's voting suppression gimmick, and casted their votes as early as possible. I would guess that majority of these early votes going for Biden/Harris.  It quite possible that next month, Bidden/Harris ticket will surpass 2008 Obama/Biden ticket's record votes of 69,498,516. 70,000,000 will be the magic number, over or under?

 

One of my locals has over 71,000,000 for Biden at -150, up from +240 pre covid 

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Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: I have 2 large locals  One is in the City of Buffalo , and said he bettors were pounding BIDEN at plus odds and were still betting him at -175 ...He stopped taking action today , and said he is praying for a trump win like 2016 when he won a boatload ... My other local is in a rural area where Trump flags are everywhere...He is offering Trump at +165 while saying 9/10 bets are on Trump ...He thinks Biden wins In a landslide although he has never voted for a Democrat  In his life ... The idea of using a "local" will be a thing of the past. Sports betting will eventually be as easy as buying a lottery ticket. Sounds as creepy as watching Guiliani exposing Hunter Biden sex tapes with underage Chinese girls (yuck).

 

Rudy has not exposed anyone but himself ..Sounds like he's working with Russian agents now to keep Trump in office ( Trumps is broke and in heavy debt to the Russians , if he wasn't he would have sued Forbes and NYT for liable ))...

These 2 locals are doing great ..Our casinos require you to bet in person with Cash , after going through covid checks ...

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@DoubleUp- I don't want to hijack this because I think the OP intended for actual odds to be discussed and posted as opposed to opinions.  However, I believe Trump was possibly broke or heading that way before he became president.  That's why he was angling for ways to profit off his presidential run after it was over.  He's been able to weaken the dollar and has been giving investors information at Mar-a-Lago.  That's how they can make moves in the stock market that are substantial.  I know Republicans think they're clever but I've always got the angles covered and see what's really happening.  Now Trump has leveraged himself better and isn't nearly as broke, at the expense of prices rising in the U.S. and the dollar being weakened.  Of course the average American does not understand this.  Wall made a lot of good points on here about trying to make the GDP look better in the short term, along with it being easier for outsiders to buy up property in the U.S.  I thought Americans didn't want that but Trump will continue that pattern if he wins again.  Sigh.  Americans are suckers.

 
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October 18th

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Trump +135

 

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Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity: @DoubleUp- I don't want to hijack this because I think the OP intended for actual odds to be discussed and posted as opposed to opinions.  However, I believe Trump was possibly broke or heading that way before he became president.  That's why he was angling for ways to profit off his presidential run after it was over.  He's been able to weaken the dollar and has been giving investors information at Mar-a-Lago.  That's how they can make moves in the stock market that are substantial.  I know Republicans think they're clever but I've always got the angles covered and see what's really happening.  Now Trump has leveraged himself better and isn't nearly as broke, at the expense of prices rising in the U.S. and the dollar being weakened.  Of course the average American does not understand this.  Wall made a lot of good points on here about trying to make the GDP look better in the short term, along with it being easier for outsiders to buy up property in the U.S.  I thought Americans didn't want that but Trump will continue that pattern if he wins again.  Sigh.  Americans are suckers.   Summary of above lazy long azz essay opinion: Trump ran for President to become wealthier.

 

Yes, because he had all that massive debt and didn't manage his finances well.  He's a stupid liar who suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  That's why he couldn't borrow from American banks.  You're a Republican loser who doesn't function well and all of your thoughts don't matter.  I suspect that if you were to die, nobody would miss you and the world would certainly be better off.  Please do everyone a favor and end your life.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:

Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor: Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity: @DoubleUp- I don't want to hijack this because I think the OP intended for actual odds to be discussed and posted as opposed to opinions.  However, I believe Trump was possibly broke or heading that way before he became president.  That's why he was angling for ways to profit off his presidential run after it was over.  He's been able to weaken the dollar and has been giving investors information at Mar-a-Lago.  That's how they can make moves in the stock market that are substantial.  I know Republicans think they're clever but I've always got the angles covered and see what's really happening.  Now Trump has leveraged himself better and isn't nearly as broke, at the expense of prices rising in the U.S. and the dollar being weakened.  Of course the average American does not understand this.  Wall made a lot of good points on here about trying to make the GDP look better in the short term, along with it being easier for outsiders to buy up property in the U.S.  I thought Americans didn't want that but Trump will continue that pattern if he wins again.  Sigh.  Americans are suckers.   Summary of above lazy long azz essay opinion: Trump ran for President to become wealthier.   Yes, because he had all that massive debt and didn't manage his finances well.  He's a stupid liar who suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  That's why he couldn't borrow from American banks.  You're a Republican loser who doesn't function well and all of your thoughts don't matter.  I suspect that if you were to die, nobody would miss you and the world would certainly be better off.  Please do everyone a favor and end your life.
classic lib response, which is why so many people, myself included, are switching from dem to rep this election. MAGA!!!!peace_5peace

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Updated Heritage Odds from last week.
Trump has closed the gaps a bit in every contest.

10-22-20 as of 4:00am EST ...
To Win the Presidency --- Dem -190 Rep +160
AZ D -135 R +115
FL R -130 D +110
GA R -170 D +143
IA R -165 D +140
MI D -225 R +185
MN D -300 R +240
NC D -120 R +100
OH R -205 D +175
PA D -205 D +175
TX R -320 D +260
WI D -225 R +185

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BookMaker  11-01-20 at 5:30pm est

To Win the Presidency:  DEM -206  REP +172

AZ  D -138  R +119

FL  R -170  D +145

GA  R -191  D +166

IA  R -255  D +217

MI  D -361  R +301

MN  D -415  R +338

NC  D -117  R +101

OH  R -276  D +234

PA  D -204  R +176

TX  R -337  D +282

WI  D -356  R +296

 

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Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:

BookMaker  11-01-20 at 5:30pm est To Win the Presidency:  DEM -206  REP +172 AZ  D -138  R +119 FL  R -170  D +145 GA  R -191  D +166 IA  R -255  D +217 MI  D -361  R +301 MN  D -415  R +338 NC  D -117  R +101 OH  R -276  D +234 PA  D -204  R +176 TX  R -337  D +282 WI  D -356  R +296

Got yourself any plays on the election, Goose? I took a friendly play with a buddy at Biden +155 little while ago. clover 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

Quote Originally Posted.. The idea of using a "local" will be a thing of the past. Sports betting will eventually be as easy as buying a lottery ticket. Sounds as creepy as watching Guiliani exposing Hunter Biden sex tapes with underage Chinese girls (yuck).

 

What happened with Tucker Carlsons evidence...lol 

Go figure more faux news trash ..

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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor: Quote Originally Posted.. The idea of using a "local" will be a thing of the past. Sports betting will eventually be as easy as buying a lottery ticket. Sounds as creepy as watching Guiliani exposing Hunter Biden sex tapes with underage Chinese girls (yuck).   What happened with Tucker Carlsons evidence...lol  Go figure more faux news trash ..

Yeah, kinda of like having a Tucker Carlson baloon - filled with a lot of hot air -

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HERITAGE  11/3/20 3:30am est

AZ  D-120  R+100

FL  R-130  D+110

GA  R-165  D+140

IA  R-280  D+230

MI  D-330  R+270

MN  D-465  R+355

NC  R-135  D+115

OH  R-260  D+210

PA  D-180  R+150

TX  R-380  D+300

WI  D-370  R+290

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BookMaker Dem-192  Rep+155

intertops Biden-167  Trump+130

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Biden down to -160 on Bovada! Yikes. He was at -190 earlier today.

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