Although I left the US in approximately 2002 I am here now to help my folks through COVID. I work for a company here but am remote when out of the country. I'm not a big news watcher or TV watcher for that matter.
I'm pretty a-political and have views on issues that could be seen as left or right and even socialist (for example public schools, a socialist program where people no longer having children or never having children pay into the education system - instead of schools being private and parents electing to have one or many children paying for their kids' schooling. I'm OK with that type of socialism).
That being said my folks are convinced the election was stolen and rigged based on what they hear on conservative outlets. My father has said, "when do you think the day will come when everyone finds out that Trump really won the election?"
The point of this post is has anyone ever seen any proof? Have they supplied anything to the conservative outlets?
My head is more in the going on in South America, and what's going on in my adopted country but I'm curious as to why my folks think that there is something more behind this election.
In my searching I found this, forget the commentary afterwards but even Tucker Carlson from Fox News (everyone knows who he is, right?) was looking for proof. Did it ever come?
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Although I left the US in approximately 2002 I am here now to help my folks through COVID. I work for a company here but am remote when out of the country. I'm not a big news watcher or TV watcher for that matter.
I'm pretty a-political and have views on issues that could be seen as left or right and even socialist (for example public schools, a socialist program where people no longer having children or never having children pay into the education system - instead of schools being private and parents electing to have one or many children paying for their kids' schooling. I'm OK with that type of socialism).
That being said my folks are convinced the election was stolen and rigged based on what they hear on conservative outlets. My father has said, "when do you think the day will come when everyone finds out that Trump really won the election?"
The point of this post is has anyone ever seen any proof? Have they supplied anything to the conservative outlets?
My head is more in the going on in South America, and what's going on in my adopted country but I'm curious as to why my folks think that there is something more behind this election.
In my searching I found this, forget the commentary afterwards but even Tucker Carlson from Fox News (everyone knows who he is, right?) was looking for proof. Did it ever come?
I'll respond to the whether there is (or not) proof. Personally, I think there were to many reports (Not thru MSM) that just didn't add up. To many separate stories for all to be false. Is anything going to change? Absolutely not. There are several points to be made on the "PROOF." The main one is how is anyone going to know if the MSM simply ignores or simply buries the story. They usually go with ignoring. There is no journalism or reporting of the facts anymore. It's all simply bend the facts to fit the narrative. Nothing less then opinion pieces. The MSM has been going after trump since day 1! WHY? I've always said if he is pissing off this many people (Especially congress) then he must be doing something right. Point being, if MSM had any proof of fraud, they are not going to report on it. Which in turn, keeps half of America in the dark (whether truthful or not) It is trutly sad that the MSN has no desire to be fair (No matter which side you sit) News use to be reported and the audience decided. Those days are gone. Anyway this is just my opinion.
Were the dominion machines compromised? Why were the ballots harvested? Why did certain states refuse to be audited? None of this matters and won't be reported or followed up on, WHY? The sad thing is, this will happen agian over and over and congress could give a rats ass to remedy the problem. Why does congress make a battle out of requiring all voters to show a valid ID??? It's baffling! Mail and absentee need to be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature. WHY DOES ANYONE FIGHT THAT? Anyway, have a good day.
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I'll respond to the whether there is (or not) proof. Personally, I think there were to many reports (Not thru MSM) that just didn't add up. To many separate stories for all to be false. Is anything going to change? Absolutely not. There are several points to be made on the "PROOF." The main one is how is anyone going to know if the MSM simply ignores or simply buries the story. They usually go with ignoring. There is no journalism or reporting of the facts anymore. It's all simply bend the facts to fit the narrative. Nothing less then opinion pieces. The MSM has been going after trump since day 1! WHY? I've always said if he is pissing off this many people (Especially congress) then he must be doing something right. Point being, if MSM had any proof of fraud, they are not going to report on it. Which in turn, keeps half of America in the dark (whether truthful or not) It is trutly sad that the MSN has no desire to be fair (No matter which side you sit) News use to be reported and the audience decided. Those days are gone. Anyway this is just my opinion.
Were the dominion machines compromised? Why were the ballots harvested? Why did certain states refuse to be audited? None of this matters and won't be reported or followed up on, WHY? The sad thing is, this will happen agian over and over and congress could give a rats ass to remedy the problem. Why does congress make a battle out of requiring all voters to show a valid ID??? It's baffling! Mail and absentee need to be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature. WHY DOES ANYONE FIGHT THAT? Anyway, have a good day.
I'll make this easy. There is no proof of election fraud. None. Zip. Zilch.
I have the same evidence reviewed by over 130 different judges in over 100 different courts. This evidence includes:
1) The actual ballots used in every state, and whether they are same sided, two sided, and whether the presidential ballot is attached to any of the state races.
2) The tally from each state and whether the presidential tally in terms of numbers differed by more than 5% from the state or local races.
3) The number of registered voters in each state and the population of that state.
4) The pre-election polls and exit polls for each state.
5) The mechanism for counting ballots in each state (machine, hand, server, internal process).
In going to each one, there is no evidence of irregularity. Nothing that would suggest that fraud occurred in any state.
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I'll make this easy. There is no proof of election fraud. None. Zip. Zilch.
I have the same evidence reviewed by over 130 different judges in over 100 different courts. This evidence includes:
1) The actual ballots used in every state, and whether they are same sided, two sided, and whether the presidential ballot is attached to any of the state races.
2) The tally from each state and whether the presidential tally in terms of numbers differed by more than 5% from the state or local races.
3) The number of registered voters in each state and the population of that state.
4) The pre-election polls and exit polls for each state.
5) The mechanism for counting ballots in each state (machine, hand, server, internal process).
In going to each one, there is no evidence of irregularity. Nothing that would suggest that fraud occurred in any state.
I'll respond to the whether there is (or not) proof. Personally, I think there were to many reports (Not thru MSM) that just didn't add up. To many separate stories for all to be false. Is anything going to change? Absolutely not. There are several points to be made on the "PROOF." The main one is how is anyone going to know if the MSM simply ignores or simply buries the story. They usually go with ignoring. There is no journalism or reporting of the facts anymore. It's all simply bend the facts to fit the narrative. Nothing less then opinion pieces. The MSM has been going after trump since day 1! WHY? I've always said if he is pissing off this many people (Especially congress) then he must be doing something right. Point being, if MSM had any proof of fraud, they are not going to report on it. Which in turn, keeps half of America in the dark (whether truthful or not) It is trutly sad that the MSN has no desire to be fair (No matter which side you sit) News use to be reported and the audience decided. Those days are gone. Anyway this is just my opinion. Were the dominion machines compromised? Why were the ballots harvested? Why did certain states refuse to be audited? None of this matters and won't be reported or followed up on, WHY? The sad thing is, this will happen agian over and over and congress could give a rats ass to remedy the problem. Why does congress make a battle out of requiring all voters to show a valid ID??? It's baffling! Mail and absentee need to be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature. WHY DOES ANYONE FIGHT THAT? Anyway, have a good day.
So you're saying FOX News and Tucker Carlson are MSM?
OK, I'm out of the loop. So you're saying that Sydney Powell who has this evidence really wanted to go on FOX but FOX, since they are MSM, and Tucker Carlson are lying and saying Sydney Powel declined to come on and present evidence? Byt Sydnel Power really wanted to present her evidence for the FOX viewers?
I saw Guiliani once on FOX and he never presented any evidence. When asked he said it was coming or something like that.
OK so FOX is MSM and that is why we have seen nothing in the way of evidence on FOX (believe me I've searched), FOX is "in on it".
So what about AON, Washington Times, the Blaze and other Right leaning outlets? Are they in on it too? In short where is the evidence? It's gotta be posted somewhere on the internet, and carried by a somewhat reputable outlet, like the ones listed above..
This is a serious question and I'm shocked that the response from you, with all due respect, insinuates that FOX News' Tucker Carlson is on the take for the dems.
Did you watch the video I posted? Is Carlson lying about POwell not accepting the offer to present evidence?
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
I'll respond to the whether there is (or not) proof. Personally, I think there were to many reports (Not thru MSM) that just didn't add up. To many separate stories for all to be false. Is anything going to change? Absolutely not. There are several points to be made on the "PROOF." The main one is how is anyone going to know if the MSM simply ignores or simply buries the story. They usually go with ignoring. There is no journalism or reporting of the facts anymore. It's all simply bend the facts to fit the narrative. Nothing less then opinion pieces. The MSM has been going after trump since day 1! WHY? I've always said if he is pissing off this many people (Especially congress) then he must be doing something right. Point being, if MSM had any proof of fraud, they are not going to report on it. Which in turn, keeps half of America in the dark (whether truthful or not) It is trutly sad that the MSN has no desire to be fair (No matter which side you sit) News use to be reported and the audience decided. Those days are gone. Anyway this is just my opinion. Were the dominion machines compromised? Why were the ballots harvested? Why did certain states refuse to be audited? None of this matters and won't be reported or followed up on, WHY? The sad thing is, this will happen agian over and over and congress could give a rats ass to remedy the problem. Why does congress make a battle out of requiring all voters to show a valid ID??? It's baffling! Mail and absentee need to be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature. WHY DOES ANYONE FIGHT THAT? Anyway, have a good day.
So you're saying FOX News and Tucker Carlson are MSM?
OK, I'm out of the loop. So you're saying that Sydney Powell who has this evidence really wanted to go on FOX but FOX, since they are MSM, and Tucker Carlson are lying and saying Sydney Powel declined to come on and present evidence? Byt Sydnel Power really wanted to present her evidence for the FOX viewers?
I saw Guiliani once on FOX and he never presented any evidence. When asked he said it was coming or something like that.
OK so FOX is MSM and that is why we have seen nothing in the way of evidence on FOX (believe me I've searched), FOX is "in on it".
So what about AON, Washington Times, the Blaze and other Right leaning outlets? Are they in on it too? In short where is the evidence? It's gotta be posted somewhere on the internet, and carried by a somewhat reputable outlet, like the ones listed above..
This is a serious question and I'm shocked that the response from you, with all due respect, insinuates that FOX News' Tucker Carlson is on the take for the dems.
Did you watch the video I posted? Is Carlson lying about POwell not accepting the offer to present evidence?
If my math is correct. Covers has 3 more election fraud deniers! Again. Did they ever repair the massive water leak in Georgia that was about to drown all of Atlanta? Thankfully Augusta National was spared a horrible fate! Amazing hard working Americans in masks as part of their wardrobe voted for somebody who took showers with his daughter.
Has anybody talked to Ruby Freeman and her Mom? For the record. President Trump won 68% of the vote and won 49 states. Trump only lost New York.
It was a MAGA landslide for President Trump on 3 and 4 November 2020.
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If my math is correct. Covers has 3 more election fraud deniers! Again. Did they ever repair the massive water leak in Georgia that was about to drown all of Atlanta? Thankfully Augusta National was spared a horrible fate! Amazing hard working Americans in masks as part of their wardrobe voted for somebody who took showers with his daughter.
Has anybody talked to Ruby Freeman and her Mom? For the record. President Trump won 68% of the vote and won 49 states. Trump only lost New York.
It was a MAGA landslide for President Trump on 3 and 4 November 2020.
Although I left the US in approximately 2002 I am here now to help my folks through COVID. I work for a company here but am remote when out of the country. I'm not a big news watcher or TV watcher for that matter. I'm pretty a-political and have views on issues that could be seen as left or right and even socialist (for example public schools, a socialist program where people no longer having children or never having children pay into the education system - instead of schools being private and parents electing to have one or many children paying for their kids' schooling. I'm OK with that type of socialism). That being said my folks are convinced the election was stolen and rigged based on what they hear on conservative outlets. My father has said, "when do you think the day will come when everyone finds out that Trump really won the election?" The point of this post is has anyone ever seen any proof? Have they supplied anything to the conservative outlets? My head is more in the going on in South America, and what's going on in my adopted country but I'm curious as to why my folks think that there is something more behind this election. In my searching I found this, forget the commentary afterwards but even Tucker Carlson from Fox News (everyone knows who he is, right?) was looking for proof. Did it ever come?
just in case barneybeans There is an epic thread inside this forum with all of the evidence proving the election was stolen from President Trump. The title of the thread is Evidence of the Heist.
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Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Although I left the US in approximately 2002 I am here now to help my folks through COVID. I work for a company here but am remote when out of the country. I'm not a big news watcher or TV watcher for that matter. I'm pretty a-political and have views on issues that could be seen as left or right and even socialist (for example public schools, a socialist program where people no longer having children or never having children pay into the education system - instead of schools being private and parents electing to have one or many children paying for their kids' schooling. I'm OK with that type of socialism). That being said my folks are convinced the election was stolen and rigged based on what they hear on conservative outlets. My father has said, "when do you think the day will come when everyone finds out that Trump really won the election?" The point of this post is has anyone ever seen any proof? Have they supplied anything to the conservative outlets? My head is more in the going on in South America, and what's going on in my adopted country but I'm curious as to why my folks think that there is something more behind this election. In my searching I found this, forget the commentary afterwards but even Tucker Carlson from Fox News (everyone knows who he is, right?) was looking for proof. Did it ever come?
just in case barneybeans There is an epic thread inside this forum with all of the evidence proving the election was stolen from President Trump. The title of the thread is Evidence of the Heist.
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans: Although I left the US in approximately 2002 I am here now to help my folks through COVID. I work for a company here but am remote when out of the country. I'm not a big news watcher or TV watcher for that matter. I'm pretty a-political and have views on issues that could be seen as left or right and even socialist (for example public schools, a socialist program where people no longer having children or never having children pay into the education system - instead of schools being private and parents electing to have one or many children paying for their kids' schooling. I'm OK with that type of socialism). That being said my folks are convinced the election was stolen and rigged based on what they hear on conservative outlets. My father has said, "when do you think the day will come when everyone finds out that Trump really won the election?" The point of this post is has anyone ever seen any proof? Have they supplied anything to the conservative outlets? My head is more in the going on in South America, and what's going on in my adopted country but I'm curious as to why my folks think that there is something more behind this election. In my searching I found this, forget the commentary afterwards but even Tucker Carlson from Fox News (everyone knows who he is, right?) was looking for proof. Did it ever come? just in case barneybeans There is an epic thread inside this forum with all of the evidence proving the election was stolen from President Trump. The title of the thread is Evidence of the Heist.
Barneybeans
Don't waste your time. There is no verifiable evidence of anything in that thread.
A lot of unproven conspiracy theories from Gateway Pundit with no actual evidence or factual support.
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans: Although I left the US in approximately 2002 I am here now to help my folks through COVID. I work for a company here but am remote when out of the country. I'm not a big news watcher or TV watcher for that matter. I'm pretty a-political and have views on issues that could be seen as left or right and even socialist (for example public schools, a socialist program where people no longer having children or never having children pay into the education system - instead of schools being private and parents electing to have one or many children paying for their kids' schooling. I'm OK with that type of socialism). That being said my folks are convinced the election was stolen and rigged based on what they hear on conservative outlets. My father has said, "when do you think the day will come when everyone finds out that Trump really won the election?" The point of this post is has anyone ever seen any proof? Have they supplied anything to the conservative outlets? My head is more in the going on in South America, and what's going on in my adopted country but I'm curious as to why my folks think that there is something more behind this election. In my searching I found this, forget the commentary afterwards but even Tucker Carlson from Fox News (everyone knows who he is, right?) was looking for proof. Did it ever come? just in case barneybeans There is an epic thread inside this forum with all of the evidence proving the election was stolen from President Trump. The title of the thread is Evidence of the Heist.
Barneybeans
Don't waste your time. There is no verifiable evidence of anything in that thread.
A lot of unproven conspiracy theories from Gateway Pundit with no actual evidence or factual support.
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: I'll respond to the whether there is (or not) proof. Personally, I think there were to many reports (Not thru MSM) that just didn't add up. To many separate stories for all to be false. Is anything going to change? Absolutely not. There are several points to be made on the "PROOF." The main one is how is anyone going to know if the MSM simply ignores or simply buries the story. They usually go with ignoring. There is no journalism or reporting of the facts anymore. It's all simply bend the facts to fit the narrative. Nothing less then opinion pieces. The MSM has been going after trump since day 1! WHY? I've always said if he is pissing off this many people (Especially congress) then he must be doing something right. Point being, if MSM had any proof of fraud, they are not going to report on it. Which in turn, keeps half of America in the dark (whether truthful or not) It is trutly sad that the MSN has no desire to be fair (No matter which side you sit) News use to be reported and the audience decided. Those days are gone. Anyway this is just my opinion. Were the dominion machines compromised? Why were the ballots harvested? Why did certain states refuse to be audited? None of this matters and won't be reported or followed up on, WHY? The sad thing is, this will happen agian over and over and congress could give a rats ass to remedy the problem. Why does congress make a battle out of requiring all voters to show a valid ID??? It's baffling! Mail and absentee need to be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature. WHY DOES ANYONE FIGHT THAT? Anyway, have a good day. So you're saying FOX News and Tucker Carlson are MSM? OK, I'm out of the loop. So you're saying that Sydney Powell who has this evidence really wanted to go on FOX but FOX, since they are MSM, and Tucker Carlson are lying and saying Sydney Powel declined to come on and present evidence? Byt Sydnel Power really wanted to present her evidence for the FOX viewers? I saw Guiliani once on FOX and he never presented any evidence. When asked he said it was coming or something like that. OK so FOX is MSM and that is why we have seen nothing in the way of evidence on FOX (believe me I've searched), FOX is "in on it". So what about AON, Washington Times, the Blaze and other Right leaning outlets? Are they in on it too? In short where is the evidence? It's gotta be posted somewhere on the internet, and carried by a somewhat reputable outlet, like the ones listed above.. This is a serious question and I'm shocked that the response from you, with all due respect, insinuates that FOX News' Tucker Carlson is on the take for the dems. Did you watch the video I posted? Is Carlson lying about POwell not accepting the offer to present evidence?
Fox is not main street media. Im not arguing one way or thee other- I'm simply stating the point that main street media picks and chooses their opinion pieces that fit their narrative. Can you dispute that claim? Can anyone? regardless of your own political affiliation. No way in hell
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Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: I'll respond to the whether there is (or not) proof. Personally, I think there were to many reports (Not thru MSM) that just didn't add up. To many separate stories for all to be false. Is anything going to change? Absolutely not. There are several points to be made on the "PROOF." The main one is how is anyone going to know if the MSM simply ignores or simply buries the story. They usually go with ignoring. There is no journalism or reporting of the facts anymore. It's all simply bend the facts to fit the narrative. Nothing less then opinion pieces. The MSM has been going after trump since day 1! WHY? I've always said if he is pissing off this many people (Especially congress) then he must be doing something right. Point being, if MSM had any proof of fraud, they are not going to report on it. Which in turn, keeps half of America in the dark (whether truthful or not) It is trutly sad that the MSN has no desire to be fair (No matter which side you sit) News use to be reported and the audience decided. Those days are gone. Anyway this is just my opinion. Were the dominion machines compromised? Why were the ballots harvested? Why did certain states refuse to be audited? None of this matters and won't be reported or followed up on, WHY? The sad thing is, this will happen agian over and over and congress could give a rats ass to remedy the problem. Why does congress make a battle out of requiring all voters to show a valid ID??? It's baffling! Mail and absentee need to be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature. WHY DOES ANYONE FIGHT THAT? Anyway, have a good day. So you're saying FOX News and Tucker Carlson are MSM? OK, I'm out of the loop. So you're saying that Sydney Powell who has this evidence really wanted to go on FOX but FOX, since they are MSM, and Tucker Carlson are lying and saying Sydney Powel declined to come on and present evidence? Byt Sydnel Power really wanted to present her evidence for the FOX viewers? I saw Guiliani once on FOX and he never presented any evidence. When asked he said it was coming or something like that. OK so FOX is MSM and that is why we have seen nothing in the way of evidence on FOX (believe me I've searched), FOX is "in on it". So what about AON, Washington Times, the Blaze and other Right leaning outlets? Are they in on it too? In short where is the evidence? It's gotta be posted somewhere on the internet, and carried by a somewhat reputable outlet, like the ones listed above.. This is a serious question and I'm shocked that the response from you, with all due respect, insinuates that FOX News' Tucker Carlson is on the take for the dems. Did you watch the video I posted? Is Carlson lying about POwell not accepting the offer to present evidence?
Fox is not main street media. Im not arguing one way or thee other- I'm simply stating the point that main street media picks and chooses their opinion pieces that fit their narrative. Can you dispute that claim? Can anyone? regardless of your own political affiliation. No way in hell
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: I'll respond to the whether there is (or not) proof. Personally, I think there were to many reports (Not thru MSM) that just didn't add up. To many separate stories for all to be false. Is anything going to change? Absolutely not. There are several points to be made on the "PROOF." The main one is how is anyone going to know if the MSM simply ignores or simply buries the story. They usually go with ignoring. There is no journalism or reporting of the facts anymore. It's all simply bend the facts to fit the narrative. Nothing less then opinion pieces. The MSM has been going after trump since day 1! WHY? I've always said if he is pissing off this many people (Especially congress) then he must be doing something right. Point being, if MSM had any proof of fraud, they are not going to report on it. Which in turn, keeps half of America in the dark (whether truthful or not) It is trutly sad that the MSN has no desire to be fair (No matter which side you sit) News use to be reported and the audience decided. Those days are gone. Anyway this is just my opinion. Were the dominion machines compromised? Why were the ballots harvested? Why did certain states refuse to be audited? None of this matters and won't be reported or followed up on, WHY? The sad thing is, this will happen agian over and over and congress could give a rats ass to remedy the problem. Why does congress make a battle out of requiring all voters to show a valid ID??? It's baffling! Mail and absentee need to be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature. WHY DOES ANYONE FIGHT THAT? Anyway, have a good day. So you're saying FOX News and Tucker Carlson are MSM? OK, I'm out of the loop. So you're saying that Sydney Powell who has this evidence really wanted to go on FOX but FOX, since they are MSM, and Tucker Carlson are lying and saying Sydney Powel declined to come on and present evidence? Byt Sydnel Power really wanted to present her evidence for the FOX viewers? I saw Guiliani once on FOX and he never presented any evidence. When asked he said it was coming or something like that. OK so FOX is MSM and that is why we have seen nothing in the way of evidence on FOX (believe me I've searched), FOX is "in on it". So what about AON, Washington Times, the Blaze and other Right leaning outlets? Are they in on it too? In short where is the evidence? It's gotta be posted somewhere on the internet, and carried by a somewhat reputable outlet, like the ones listed above.. This is a serious question and I'm shocked that the response from you, with all due respect, insinuates that FOX News' Tucker Carlson is on the take for the dems. Did you watch the video I posted? Is Carlson lying about POwell not accepting the offer to present evidence?Fox is not main street media. Im not arguing one way or thee other- I'm simply stating the point that main street media picks and chooses their opinion pieces that fit their narrative. Can you dispute that claim? Can anyone? regardless of your own political affiliation. No way in hell
Sorry Snorkle.
Fox is indeed part of the mainstream media. They are one the 10 largest media companies (ranked 7th) in the world, and the 4th largest "news" network. You can deny facts, but they are indeed mainstream media, whether you acknowledge it or not.
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: I'll respond to the whether there is (or not) proof. Personally, I think there were to many reports (Not thru MSM) that just didn't add up. To many separate stories for all to be false. Is anything going to change? Absolutely not. There are several points to be made on the "PROOF." The main one is how is anyone going to know if the MSM simply ignores or simply buries the story. They usually go with ignoring. There is no journalism or reporting of the facts anymore. It's all simply bend the facts to fit the narrative. Nothing less then opinion pieces. The MSM has been going after trump since day 1! WHY? I've always said if he is pissing off this many people (Especially congress) then he must be doing something right. Point being, if MSM had any proof of fraud, they are not going to report on it. Which in turn, keeps half of America in the dark (whether truthful or not) It is trutly sad that the MSN has no desire to be fair (No matter which side you sit) News use to be reported and the audience decided. Those days are gone. Anyway this is just my opinion. Were the dominion machines compromised? Why were the ballots harvested? Why did certain states refuse to be audited? None of this matters and won't be reported or followed up on, WHY? The sad thing is, this will happen agian over and over and congress could give a rats ass to remedy the problem. Why does congress make a battle out of requiring all voters to show a valid ID??? It's baffling! Mail and absentee need to be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature. WHY DOES ANYONE FIGHT THAT? Anyway, have a good day. So you're saying FOX News and Tucker Carlson are MSM? OK, I'm out of the loop. So you're saying that Sydney Powell who has this evidence really wanted to go on FOX but FOX, since they are MSM, and Tucker Carlson are lying and saying Sydney Powel declined to come on and present evidence? Byt Sydnel Power really wanted to present her evidence for the FOX viewers? I saw Guiliani once on FOX and he never presented any evidence. When asked he said it was coming or something like that. OK so FOX is MSM and that is why we have seen nothing in the way of evidence on FOX (believe me I've searched), FOX is "in on it". So what about AON, Washington Times, the Blaze and other Right leaning outlets? Are they in on it too? In short where is the evidence? It's gotta be posted somewhere on the internet, and carried by a somewhat reputable outlet, like the ones listed above.. This is a serious question and I'm shocked that the response from you, with all due respect, insinuates that FOX News' Tucker Carlson is on the take for the dems. Did you watch the video I posted? Is Carlson lying about POwell not accepting the offer to present evidence?Fox is not main street media. Im not arguing one way or thee other- I'm simply stating the point that main street media picks and chooses their opinion pieces that fit their narrative. Can you dispute that claim? Can anyone? regardless of your own political affiliation. No way in hell
Sorry Snorkle.
Fox is indeed part of the mainstream media. They are one the 10 largest media companies (ranked 7th) in the world, and the 4th largest "news" network. You can deny facts, but they are indeed mainstream media, whether you acknowledge it or not.
So what ever . The capitol hasn't been sacked in an armed insurrection since the war of 1812. And in the big book of fairy tales the British alone did that.... No one talks about the the American loyalists torry class that assisted the British...
It was just the British the British acted alone with the aid of a few Canadians that's the story . That's the truth get with the program.
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So what ever . The capitol hasn't been sacked in an armed insurrection since the war of 1812. And in the big book of fairy tales the British alone did that.... No one talks about the the American loyalists torry class that assisted the British...
It was just the British the British acted alone with the aid of a few Canadians that's the story . That's the truth get with the program.
Decades of investigations under different presidents conclude voting fraud is very rare. For example, justice department of Bush and Trump administrations. There has never been enough fraud to dictate the outcome of any election in US history. Bigger problem in governments suppressing eligible voters by making voting harder. Most fraud cases are errors by election workers. Most common way of rigging elections is by politicians lying to mislead people.
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Decades of investigations under different presidents conclude voting fraud is very rare. For example, justice department of Bush and Trump administrations. There has never been enough fraud to dictate the outcome of any election in US history. Bigger problem in governments suppressing eligible voters by making voting harder. Most fraud cases are errors by election workers. Most common way of rigging elections is by politicians lying to mislead people.
I am so sorry, I was not clear in my later posts in this thread, my fault.
To be clear I am not looking for your evidence or the evidence on some website or this forum or something somebody said. I am looking for what FOX presented, Washington Times, AON, Breitbart, Newsmax etc.. what are the right leaning news outlets presenting as evidence?
Tucker Carlson asked both lead attorneys to come on and present their evidence to their millions of viewers and I can't find where they did.
My quote: "So what about AON, Washington Times, the Blaze and other Right leaning outlets?...where is the evidence? It's gotta be posted somewhere on the internet, and carried by a somewhat reputable outlet, like the ones listed above.."
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I am so sorry, I was not clear in my later posts in this thread, my fault.
To be clear I am not looking for your evidence or the evidence on some website or this forum or something somebody said. I am looking for what FOX presented, Washington Times, AON, Breitbart, Newsmax etc.. what are the right leaning news outlets presenting as evidence?
Tucker Carlson asked both lead attorneys to come on and present their evidence to their millions of viewers and I can't find where they did.
My quote: "So what about AON, Washington Times, the Blaze and other Right leaning outlets?...where is the evidence? It's gotta be posted somewhere on the internet, and carried by a somewhat reputable outlet, like the ones listed above.."
If my math is correct. Covers has 3 more election fraud deniers! Again. Did they ever repair the massive water leak in Georgia that was about to drown all of Atlanta? Thankfully Augusta National was spared a horrible fate! Amazing hard working Americans in masks as part of their wardrobe voted for somebody who took showers with his daughter. Has anybody talked to Ruby Freeman and her Mom? For the record. President Trump won 68% of the vote and won 49 states. Trump only lost New York. It was a MAGA landslide for President Trump on 3 and 4 November 2020.
If my math is correct I am asking a question, having a discussion. I'm condoning nor denying anything I'm not on any side.
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
If my math is correct. Covers has 3 more election fraud deniers! Again. Did they ever repair the massive water leak in Georgia that was about to drown all of Atlanta? Thankfully Augusta National was spared a horrible fate! Amazing hard working Americans in masks as part of their wardrobe voted for somebody who took showers with his daughter. Has anybody talked to Ruby Freeman and her Mom? For the record. President Trump won 68% of the vote and won 49 states. Trump only lost New York. It was a MAGA landslide for President Trump on 3 and 4 November 2020.
If my math is correct I am asking a question, having a discussion. I'm condoning nor denying anything I'm not on any side.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: If my math is correct. Covers has 3 more election fraud deniers! Again. Did they ever repair the massive water leak in Georgia that was about to drown all of Atlanta? Thankfully Augusta National was spared a horrible fate! Amazing hard working Americans in masks as part of their wardrobe voted for somebody who took showers with his daughter. Has anybody talked to Ruby Freeman and her Mom? For the record. President Trump won 68% of the vote and won 49 states. Trump only lost New York. It was a MAGA landslide for President Trump on 3 and 4 November 2020.If my math is correct I am asking a question, having a discussion. I'm condoning nor denying anything I'm not on any side.
The problem is that most Republicans are just like Trump and justify lying to accomplish their goals. Everything they're saying to you is going to be false, meaning you can't take their word to mean anything. It's all hearsay, conjecture and nonsense. I'm sure you've started to feel that way with the lack of clarity. They make ambiguous statements but don't seem to provide more details when you press for information. Right? This is how Republicans are. I totally understand why they supported Trump. They're the kind of people who make bold claims or outlandish remarks. Then when you go further, you find out they're doing it for shock value. They don't have any real core beliefs and everything is a facade.
You also have to consider that most conservative media outlets are producing fake news and Republicans only consume it. So most of them believe things that aren't real and aren't verifiable. That makes them crazy animals who can't function on a daily basis. My language used in the past was done so because it reflects what they've become. If Republicans were civilized, articulate and intelligent, I would treat them as such. I work with what I'm given and the end result is a reflection of that.
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Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: If my math is correct. Covers has 3 more election fraud deniers! Again. Did they ever repair the massive water leak in Georgia that was about to drown all of Atlanta? Thankfully Augusta National was spared a horrible fate! Amazing hard working Americans in masks as part of their wardrobe voted for somebody who took showers with his daughter. Has anybody talked to Ruby Freeman and her Mom? For the record. President Trump won 68% of the vote and won 49 states. Trump only lost New York. It was a MAGA landslide for President Trump on 3 and 4 November 2020.If my math is correct I am asking a question, having a discussion. I'm condoning nor denying anything I'm not on any side.
The problem is that most Republicans are just like Trump and justify lying to accomplish their goals. Everything they're saying to you is going to be false, meaning you can't take their word to mean anything. It's all hearsay, conjecture and nonsense. I'm sure you've started to feel that way with the lack of clarity. They make ambiguous statements but don't seem to provide more details when you press for information. Right? This is how Republicans are. I totally understand why they supported Trump. They're the kind of people who make bold claims or outlandish remarks. Then when you go further, you find out they're doing it for shock value. They don't have any real core beliefs and everything is a facade.
You also have to consider that most conservative media outlets are producing fake news and Republicans only consume it. So most of them believe things that aren't real and aren't verifiable. That makes them crazy animals who can't function on a daily basis. My language used in the past was done so because it reflects what they've become. If Republicans were civilized, articulate and intelligent, I would treat them as such. I work with what I'm given and the end result is a reflection of that.
just in case barneybeans There is an epic thread inside this forum with all of the evidence proving the election was stolen from President Trump. The title of the thread is Evidence of the Heist.
Before Obama was elected there was this birther thing. I'm sure you remember that. A good friend of mine was convinced that Obama was born in Kenya. He had his own evidence in the form of forums like this one and in some emails, and conspiracy websites...
What I was curious about at the time was Hillary Clinton who was running against Obama for the Dem nomination and John McCain (would have made a great president, as would Ron Paul) who ran against Obama for president.... with all of their money and connections and government clearance how come they were not able separately to get what they needed to throw Obama out of the race based on birth? How was it that the super rich and connected Clintons and then McCain with all of his corporate support and the entire RNC behind him couldn't prove the birth story, therefore paving the way to easy street to win their respective elections?
I don't give a shit about this election and I'm not taking sides and I'm not denying anything.
I just want to know what is the evidence that is NOT in some chat forum, nor email, nor weenie website. What did the major, right leaning media outlets secure and present to their audiences?
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
just in case barneybeans There is an epic thread inside this forum with all of the evidence proving the election was stolen from President Trump. The title of the thread is Evidence of the Heist.
Before Obama was elected there was this birther thing. I'm sure you remember that. A good friend of mine was convinced that Obama was born in Kenya. He had his own evidence in the form of forums like this one and in some emails, and conspiracy websites...
What I was curious about at the time was Hillary Clinton who was running against Obama for the Dem nomination and John McCain (would have made a great president, as would Ron Paul) who ran against Obama for president.... with all of their money and connections and government clearance how come they were not able separately to get what they needed to throw Obama out of the race based on birth? How was it that the super rich and connected Clintons and then McCain with all of his corporate support and the entire RNC behind him couldn't prove the birth story, therefore paving the way to easy street to win their respective elections?
I don't give a shit about this election and I'm not taking sides and I'm not denying anything.
I just want to know what is the evidence that is NOT in some chat forum, nor email, nor weenie website. What did the major, right leaning media outlets secure and present to their audiences?
If my math is correct. Covers has 3 more election fraud deniers! Again. Did they ever repair the massive water leak in Georgia that was about to drown all of Atlanta? Thankfully Augusta National was spared a horrible fate! Amazing hard working Americans in masks as part of their wardrobe voted for somebody who took showers with his daughter. Has anybody talked to Ruby Freeman and her Mom? For the record. President Trump won 68% of the vote and won 49 states. Trump only lost New York. It was a MAGA landslide for President Trump on 3 and 4 November 2020.
TRANSLATION for those who dont quite understand rumplicker speak:
"we have 3 very credible sources of undeniable PROOF that rump won the election in a massive landslide and the wh was stolen from him:
santa claus
easter bunny
bigfoot"
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
If my math is correct. Covers has 3 more election fraud deniers! Again. Did they ever repair the massive water leak in Georgia that was about to drown all of Atlanta? Thankfully Augusta National was spared a horrible fate! Amazing hard working Americans in masks as part of their wardrobe voted for somebody who took showers with his daughter. Has anybody talked to Ruby Freeman and her Mom? For the record. President Trump won 68% of the vote and won 49 states. Trump only lost New York. It was a MAGA landslide for President Trump on 3 and 4 November 2020.
TRANSLATION for those who dont quite understand rumplicker speak:
"we have 3 very credible sources of undeniable PROOF that rump won the election in a massive landslide and the wh was stolen from him:
Fox is not main street media. Im not arguing one way or thee other- I'm simply stating the point that main street media picks and chooses their opinion pieces that fit their narrative. Can you dispute that claim? Can anyone? regardless of your own political affiliation. No way in hell
Let's leave mainstream media out of this.
If FOX is not mainstream media. as you say, then what did they provide as evidence on the air, on FOX that I can watch on youtube? You posted about Mainstream media twice. I don't care about mainstream media. I am asking you about FOX, AON, Newsmax, Washingtom Times, The Blaze, Breitbart.
I am on Breitbart now looking at a few things but....
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
Fox is not main street media. Im not arguing one way or thee other- I'm simply stating the point that main street media picks and chooses their opinion pieces that fit their narrative. Can you dispute that claim? Can anyone? regardless of your own political affiliation. No way in hell
Let's leave mainstream media out of this.
If FOX is not mainstream media. as you say, then what did they provide as evidence on the air, on FOX that I can watch on youtube? You posted about Mainstream media twice. I don't care about mainstream media. I am asking you about FOX, AON, Newsmax, Washingtom Times, The Blaze, Breitbart.
I am on Breitbart now looking at a few things but....
just in case barneybeans There is an epic thread inside this forum with all of the evidence proving the election was stolen from President Trump. The title of the thread is Evidence of the Heist.
Thank you for that Sundance. But evidence can show up all over the internet. Has any of this evidence contained in the Covers thread you reference made its way to right leaning Networks: FOX, AON, Newsmax, Washingtom Times, The Blaze, Breitbart?
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
just in case barneybeans There is an epic thread inside this forum with all of the evidence proving the election was stolen from President Trump. The title of the thread is Evidence of the Heist.
Thank you for that Sundance. But evidence can show up all over the internet. Has any of this evidence contained in the Covers thread you reference made its way to right leaning Networks: FOX, AON, Newsmax, Washingtom Times, The Blaze, Breitbart?
ok.... where do you go from there tell em about Santa as well????
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