The begining of the end ?

Myth: Face masks can protect you from the virus

Standard surgical masks cannot protect you from SARS-CoV-2, as they are not designed to block out viral particles and do not lay flush to the face, Live Science previously reported. That said, surgical masks can help prevent infected people from spreading the virus further by blocking any respiratory droplets that could be expelled from their mouths. 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-cdc-says-americans-dont-have-to-wear-facemasks-because-of-coronavirus-2020-01-30

Most people don’t know how to use face masks correctly, and a rush to buy masks could prevent the people who need them most — health care providers — from getting them

In fact the U.S. surgeon general recently urged the public to “STOP BUYING MASKS!” “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!,” wrote Surgeon General Jerome Adams

“The virus is not spreading in the general community,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the Center for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in a Jan. 30 briefing. “We don’t routinely recommend the use of face masks by the public to prevent respiratory illness. And we certainly are not recommending that at this time for this new virus.”

Adalja applauded the CDC’s recommendation on face masks. “Even during H1N1 [flu epidemic], there was no recommendation to wear face masks,” he said. They “end up creating a false sense of security and most people don’t wear them appropriately,” he said.

People who are not in the medical field who wear the masks often come in contact with germs when they lift the mask up to eat or slip their fingers under the mask to blow their nose, he said.

Panic-driven demand for face masks, Adalja said, is particularly worrisome because it could have “a negative supply shock” effect on hospital personnel who need these masks more than the general public.

in early March, Adams told viewers that “you can actually increase your risk of getting a respiratory disease like coronavirus” if you wear a mask improperly.

“It’s not going to do anything for you. It’s the people who actually have coronavirus that have the masks, need the masks,” Tapper said.

First of all, most people buying masks are not getting one that stops the virus from reaching their mouth or nose anyway. The coronavirus is transmitted through droplets, not through the air. That means you cannot randomly breathe it in, but it also means the standard surgical mask you see people wearing will not help. Those masks are designed to keep droplets in—not to keep them out—and are intended to keep the wearer from getting others sick. 

whether this coronavirus is “airborne” and what that means. The virus is not airborne using the scientific definition used for pathogenssuch as tuberculosisor measles. Droplets might become aerosolized for some viruses, but there is not yet evidence showing that this coronavirus can be breathed in when a nearby infected individual exhales.

So, why the recent change in guidance by the CDC and our own governor? Was it because initially there were not enough masks to go around? It makes sense that medical personnel and the sick should have been given top priority of available supplies. But why is it just now that experts are telling us even two layers of cotton material — like a T-shirt — covering the face can help prevent the spread of COVID-19? Surely the experts have known that all along.

Nurses at a hospital in Mexico said they were instructed not to wear masks when treating patients so they wouldn't incite fear, Reuters reported.

In the face of this, publicly presenting an absolute answer — “You don’t need them” — for something that requires a qualified response just makes people trust authorities even less...the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. told the public to wear masks if they were sick. However, there is increasing evidence of asymptomatic transmission, especially through younger people who have milder cases and don’t know they are sick but are still infectious.Since the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. do say that masks lessen the chances that infected people will infect others, then everyone should use masks.

Americans should wear face masks as a way to help stifle the spread of COVID-19, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top doctors leading the public health fight against the coronavirus pandemic — a departure from previous government guidance to only wear a mask if you were caring for someone with the illness or had it yourself.

“If everybody does that, we’re each protecting each other,” Fauci said

For months, federal health officials discouraged the use of surgical face masks. In recent weeks, some health experts began to question that decision, suggesting that the use of face coverings could have helped slow the spread of the virus sooner. But on Friday, the task force said it was now recommending face coverings “in light of recent studies.”

Psychotherapist Amy Morin explains that wearing the masks does more for our mental health than our physical well-being, by soothing our anxiety and giving us the illusion of being in control.

If a mask is not tested and approved as a legitimate N95 respirator by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), it’s not going to do much to stop the new coronavirus from reaching your mouth or nose.

You know it’s serious when the Surgeon General has to say “seriously people.” Indeed, the current mask-sales frenzy is exactly that: a frenzy.

Yeah, a standard surgical mask like the one that she is wearing ain’t going to keep much out except maybe keeping people from recognizing that she is Kate Hudson. Such masks are quite hole-ly, having many, many small holes. And viruses are small enough to get through these holes.

Wearing a mask still leaves your eyes exposed to get viruses rubbed into them, unless you wear airtight goggles at the same time.

Jeffrey Swisher, chairman of California Pacific Medical Center’s department of anesthesiology, has also tweetedthat "viral particles are too small and the filtration ability of surgical masks is insufficient" to prevent the spread of novel coronavirus. He added: "Surgical masks protect you as a patient in the operating room from bacterial contamination. Stop buying and hoarding them!"

That is the gist of some I put on there earlier. 

Can get you started in the right direction if you want to look into it more. 

I have been in clean rooms for a good portion of my career.  I have been in all, from Class 100k to Class 1k. 

There are actual classes on these and how to dress and undress, etc.  They address some of the things in these classes that some of the folks have concerns with regarding these masks.  Like: improper technique (especially removal), complacency, lack or proper cleaning, etc. 

So, I very much understand the benefit — I am just saying, it is NOT a panacea and does WAY LESS than ‘advertised’.

Come on man !    Raiders22,,, 8 consecutive post in a row,, in one hour,,, in a thread you did not start  ...without anybody replying...  is called shitin in someone else's thread.

Now, I need a mask to cut down on the smell....

People who are still anti mask deserve the Darwin awards 

He asked for the links.  And I copied them in there. And broke them up into smaller posts to fit and save continuity.  Was not waiting on replies.  It could have been one post but space did not allow it. 

You are right,, he did ask for more studies...and you sure gave them to him..

We're cool..........