A pandemic will NEVER fully come under control -- NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT -- unless there is full compliance by the populace. not only is there a very large non-compliance, but actual deliberate resistance to making America safe, despite the efforts of the Biden administration.
Fubah2 is right. Pandemic is a collective problem that can only be solved by collective remedy. Infection anywhere can become infection everywhere. Failure in collective action has hamstrung US pandemic response. The result of division is a patchwork of different responses with Americans fighting each other instead of the pandemic. Selfishness has been costly. Currently, almost half of all states have vaccine mandates issued by either federal, state, municipal or private sector. But if Biden employer limited mandate is implemented for next 6 months, estimated 6500 deaths and 250,000 hospitalizations could be prevented.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
A pandemic will NEVER fully come under control -- NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT -- unless there is full compliance by the populace. not only is there a very large non-compliance, but actual deliberate resistance to making America safe, despite the efforts of the Biden administration.
Fubah2 is right. Pandemic is a collective problem that can only be solved by collective remedy. Infection anywhere can become infection everywhere. Failure in collective action has hamstrung US pandemic response. The result of division is a patchwork of different responses with Americans fighting each other instead of the pandemic. Selfishness has been costly. Currently, almost half of all states have vaccine mandates issued by either federal, state, municipal or private sector. But if Biden employer limited mandate is implemented for next 6 months, estimated 6500 deaths and 250,000 hospitalizations could be prevented.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: A pandemic will NEVER fully come under control -- NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT -- unless there is full compliance by the populace. Not only is there a very large non-compliance, but actual deliberate resistance to making America safe, despite the efforts of the Biden administration.
Fubah2 is right.
Pandemic is a collective problem that can only be solved by collective remedy. Infection anywhere can become infection everywhere. Failure in collective action has hamstrung US pandemic response. The result of division is a patchwork of different responses with Americans fighting each other instead of the pandemic. Selfishness has been costly.
Exactly, thirdperson!
We know *HOW* to effectively manage the pandemic (that was created under trump-regime) but knowing *HOW* and the actual "compliance" required for it to succeed is not the same thing. Resistance by portions of the population in various states is holding America back.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: A pandemic will NEVER fully come under control -- NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT -- unless there is full compliance by the populace. Not only is there a very large non-compliance, but actual deliberate resistance to making America safe, despite the efforts of the Biden administration.
Fubah2 is right.
Pandemic is a collective problem that can only be solved by collective remedy. Infection anywhere can become infection everywhere. Failure in collective action has hamstrung US pandemic response. The result of division is a patchwork of different responses with Americans fighting each other instead of the pandemic. Selfishness has been costly.
Exactly, thirdperson!
We know *HOW* to effectively manage the pandemic (that was created under trump-regime) but knowing *HOW* and the actual "compliance" required for it to succeed is not the same thing. Resistance by portions of the population in various states is holding America back.
Kaiser Family Foundation for research analysis has found that: 85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated
Our northern neighbors, Canadians have 76.5% rate of fully Covid-19 vaccination. Even Brazil beats U.S., 64.2% vs 59.7%.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Kaiser Family Foundation for research analysis has found that: 85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated
Our northern neighbors, Canadians have 76.5% rate of fully Covid-19 vaccination. Even Brazil beats U.S., 64.2% vs 59.7%.
Canadians have 76.5% rate of fully Covid-19 vaccination. Even Brazil beats U.S., 64.2% vs 59.7%.
Key is that both Brazilians and Canadians trust their public health system and see vaccination as patriotic duty. Doctors are seen as public servants for common good instead of businessmen trying to maximize profits.
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Canadians have 76.5% rate of fully Covid-19 vaccination. Even Brazil beats U.S., 64.2% vs 59.7%.
Key is that both Brazilians and Canadians trust their public health system and see vaccination as patriotic duty. Doctors are seen as public servants for common good instead of businessmen trying to maximize profits.
Fubah2 is right. Pandemic is a collective problem that can only be solved by collective remedy. Infection anywhere can become infection everywhere. Failure in collective action has hamstrung US pandemic response. The result of division is a patchwork of different responses with Americans fighting each other instead of the pandemic. Selfishness has been costly.
must have public compliance or the battle vs. the virus will continue endlessly
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Fubah2 is right. Pandemic is a collective problem that can only be solved by collective remedy. Infection anywhere can become infection everywhere. Failure in collective action has hamstrung US pandemic response. The result of division is a patchwork of different responses with Americans fighting each other instead of the pandemic. Selfishness has been costly.
must have public compliance or the battle vs. the virus will continue endlessly
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Canadians have 76.5% rate of fully Covid-19 vaccination. Even Brazil beats U.S., 64.2% vs 59.7%. Key is that both Brazilians and Canadians trust their public health system and see vaccination as patriotic duty. Doctors are seen as public servants for common good instead of businessmen trying to maximize profits.
In all fairness, doctors in this country ARE businessmen trying to maximize profits.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Canadians have 76.5% rate of fully Covid-19 vaccination. Even Brazil beats U.S., 64.2% vs 59.7%. Key is that both Brazilians and Canadians trust their public health system and see vaccination as patriotic duty. Doctors are seen as public servants for common good instead of businessmen trying to maximize profits.
In all fairness, doctors in this country ARE businessmen trying to maximize profits.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Canadians have 76.5% rate of fully Covid-19 vaccination. Even Brazil beats U.S., 64.2% vs 59.7%. Key is that both Brazilians and Canadians trust their public health system and see vaccination as patriotic duty. Doctors are seen as public servants for common good instead of businessmen trying to maximize profits. In all fairness, doctors in this country ARE businessmen trying to maximize profits.
Let's also talk about wait times in Canada compared to the US.
Let's also talk about Canadian citizens coming to the US for more complicated surgeries.
Let's also talk about the taxes in Canada compared to the US.
Let's also talk about the land size of Canada compared to the US.
Let's also talk about the population of US being 10 times larger the Canada.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Canadians have 76.5% rate of fully Covid-19 vaccination. Even Brazil beats U.S., 64.2% vs 59.7%. Key is that both Brazilians and Canadians trust their public health system and see vaccination as patriotic duty. Doctors are seen as public servants for common good instead of businessmen trying to maximize profits. In all fairness, doctors in this country ARE businessmen trying to maximize profits.
Let's also talk about wait times in Canada compared to the US.
Let's also talk about Canadian citizens coming to the US for more complicated surgeries.
Let's also talk about the taxes in Canada compared to the US.
Let's also talk about the land size of Canada compared to the US.
Let's also talk about the population of US being 10 times larger the Canada.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kaiser Family Foundation for research analysis has found that: 85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated tells the story right there
99+% recovery rate
Why do you care what side of the political spectrum is vaxed or not? If you're vaxed, why do you care what someone else does?
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kaiser Family Foundation for research analysis has found that: 85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated tells the story right there
99+% recovery rate
Why do you care what side of the political spectrum is vaxed or not? If you're vaxed, why do you care what someone else does?
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kaiser Family Foundation found that 85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated. 55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated Why do you care what side of the political spectrum is vaxed or not? If you're vaxed, why do you care what someone else does?
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
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Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kaiser Family Foundation found that 85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated. 55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated Why do you care what side of the political spectrum is vaxed or not? If you're vaxed, why do you care what someone else does?
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
wait times in Canada compared to the US. Canadian citizens coming to the US for surgeries. taxes in Canada compared to the US.
Overall, Canada is ranked ahead of US in healthcare system according to US-based Commonwealth fund. Although wait time is longer in Canada, US rations healthcare by price while Canadian doctors first treat patients who are most sick. Better to be on a waiting list in Canada instead of being uninsured in the US.
Only a tiny minority of Canadians travel to the US for healthcare. Vast majority of Canadians stay home. More Americans travel to Canada to buy cheap drugs. Polls show Canadians are more satisfied with their healthcare system than Americans. Besides, life expectancy is higher in Canada.
For a universal system, taxes are a fairer way for funding than insurance premiums. No Canadian becomes bankrupt because of medical bills. Canada spends less on healthcare as percentage of GDP while insuring a larger share of population. US has the most unaffordable and wasteful healthcare system in the world with millions of Americans under insured.
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Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
wait times in Canada compared to the US. Canadian citizens coming to the US for surgeries. taxes in Canada compared to the US.
Overall, Canada is ranked ahead of US in healthcare system according to US-based Commonwealth fund. Although wait time is longer in Canada, US rations healthcare by price while Canadian doctors first treat patients who are most sick. Better to be on a waiting list in Canada instead of being uninsured in the US.
Only a tiny minority of Canadians travel to the US for healthcare. Vast majority of Canadians stay home. More Americans travel to Canada to buy cheap drugs. Polls show Canadians are more satisfied with their healthcare system than Americans. Besides, life expectancy is higher in Canada.
For a universal system, taxes are a fairer way for funding than insurance premiums. No Canadian becomes bankrupt because of medical bills. Canada spends less on healthcare as percentage of GDP while insuring a larger share of population. US has the most unaffordable and wasteful healthcare system in the world with millions of Americans under insured.
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kaiser Family Foundation found that 85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated. 55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated Why do you care what side of the political spectrum is vaxed or not? If you're vaxed, why do you care what someone else does? Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
This is a bunch of lies.
Data from Iceland proves that. Cannot find U.S. data that shows daily vaxed vs unvaxed without "since Jan 1" or this small percentage of vaccinated have had infection, etc. Back in August Michigan and Illinois said 28% and 30% of hospitalizations were vaccinated, after that silence. They won't say.
Iceland vaccination rate 76.8%. Last 7 days 56.2% of COVID cases were vaccinated. This is typical of all summer data. Vast majority my azz.
According to the San Franciso liberal org KFF, Black's have just made it to the 50% vaccinated point lagging behind all other races. Michigan's recent surge has been inner cities.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kaiser Family Foundation found that 85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated. 55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated Why do you care what side of the political spectrum is vaxed or not? If you're vaxed, why do you care what someone else does? Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
This is a bunch of lies.
Data from Iceland proves that. Cannot find U.S. data that shows daily vaxed vs unvaxed without "since Jan 1" or this small percentage of vaccinated have had infection, etc. Back in August Michigan and Illinois said 28% and 30% of hospitalizations were vaccinated, after that silence. They won't say.
Iceland vaccination rate 76.8%. Last 7 days 56.2% of COVID cases were vaccinated. This is typical of all summer data. Vast majority my azz.
According to the San Franciso liberal org KFF, Black's have just made it to the 50% vaccinated point lagging behind all other races. Michigan's recent surge has been inner cities.
85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated.
55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population.They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
thx for posting the facts once again thirdperson !
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Kaiser Family Foundation found that
85% of adults who are Democrats are fully vaccinated.
55% of adults who are Republicans are fully vaccinated
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population.They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
thx for posting the facts once again thirdperson !
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: wait times in Canada compared to the US. Canadian citizens coming to the US for surgeries. taxes in Canada compared to the US. Overall, Canada is ranked ahead of US in healthcare system according to US-based Commonwealth fund. Although wait time is longer in Canada, US rations healthcare by price while Canadian doctors first treat patients who are most sick. Better to be on a waiting list in Canada instead of being uninsured in the US. Only a tiny minority of Canadians travel to the US for healthcare. Vast majority of Canadians stay home. More Americans travel to Canada to buy cheap drugs. Polls show Canadians are more satisfied with their healthcare system than Americans. Besides, life expectancy is higher in Canada. For a universal system, taxes are a fairer way for funding than insurance premiums. No Canadian becomes bankrupt because of medical bills. Canada spends less on healthcare as percentage of GDP while insuring a larger share of population. US has the most unaffordable and wasteful healthcare system in the world with millions of Americans under insured.
Well said, thirdperson. Universal health insurance (UHI) has prevailed among almost all of the western nations, except U.S., and industrialized countries around the world. The UHI system won't be so popular in these majority countries if it's deeply flawed, to the contrary the system saves millions of people's lives.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: wait times in Canada compared to the US. Canadian citizens coming to the US for surgeries. taxes in Canada compared to the US. Overall, Canada is ranked ahead of US in healthcare system according to US-based Commonwealth fund. Although wait time is longer in Canada, US rations healthcare by price while Canadian doctors first treat patients who are most sick. Better to be on a waiting list in Canada instead of being uninsured in the US. Only a tiny minority of Canadians travel to the US for healthcare. Vast majority of Canadians stay home. More Americans travel to Canada to buy cheap drugs. Polls show Canadians are more satisfied with their healthcare system than Americans. Besides, life expectancy is higher in Canada. For a universal system, taxes are a fairer way for funding than insurance premiums. No Canadian becomes bankrupt because of medical bills. Canada spends less on healthcare as percentage of GDP while insuring a larger share of population. US has the most unaffordable and wasteful healthcare system in the world with millions of Americans under insured.
Well said, thirdperson. Universal health insurance (UHI) has prevailed among almost all of the western nations, except U.S., and industrialized countries around the world. The UHI system won't be so popular in these majority countries if it's deeply flawed, to the contrary the system saves millions of people's lives.
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
This remains a fact overall despite occaisonal statistical anomalies which always occur in science.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
This remains a fact overall despite occaisonal statistical anomalies which always occur in science.
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
You gave one legitimate reason explaining why you care if other people are vaccinated or not.
— overwhelmed hospitals —
Can you provide a list of the hospitals that are currently overwhelmed with Covid patients?
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
You gave one legitimate reason explaining why you care if other people are vaccinated or not.
— overwhelmed hospitals —
Can you provide a list of the hospitals that are currently overwhelmed with Covid patients?
Hospitals are busier than ever — but not because of COVID
Little of this surge is driven by COVID infections, even as cases rise across the state. Instead, patients are flooding hospitals with every kind of problem — heart attacks, strokes, drug overdoses, suicidal thoughts, broken bones, infections, and COVID. Many had put off medical care during the pandemic and came to the hospital only when they could no longer bear to stay home.
Hospitals are busier than ever — but not because of COVID
Little of this surge is driven by COVID infections, even as cases rise across the state. Instead, patients are flooding hospitals with every kind of problem — heart attacks, strokes, drug overdoses, suicidal thoughts, broken bones, infections, and COVID. Many had put off medical care during the pandemic and came to the hospital only when they could no longer bear to stay home.
NY’s vaccine mandates led to roughly 50,000 healthcare workers losing their jobs — more to come
Now we’re seeing this
“A surge in COVID-19 cases and a shortage of health care workers is filling hospitals and nursing homes past their capacity in upstate New York, creating a growing crisis in the health care system even before the omicron variant is known to have spread through the area, according to hospital executives from Buffalo to Albany.”
NY’s vaccine mandates led to roughly 50,000 healthcare workers losing their jobs — more to come
Now we’re seeing this
“A surge in COVID-19 cases and a shortage of health care workers is filling hospitals and nursing homes past their capacity in upstate New York, creating a growing crisis in the health care system even before the omicron variant is known to have spread through the area, according to hospital executives from Buffalo to Albany.”
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
This remains a fact overall despite occaisonal statistical anomalies which always occur in science.
of course there r nearly always statistical exceptions
makes me laugh when a dude points to an exception then claim that is the relevent truth all over while ignoring the massive bulk of statistical evidence to the contrary oh his belief
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
This remains a fact overall despite occaisonal statistical anomalies which always occur in science.
of course there r nearly always statistical exceptions
makes me laugh when a dude points to an exception then claim that is the relevent truth all over while ignoring the massive bulk of statistical evidence to the contrary oh his belief
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
This remains a fact overall despite occaisonal statistical anomalies which always occur in science.
of course there r nearly always statistical exceptions
makes me laugh when a dude points to an exception then claim that is the relevent truth all over while ignoring the massive bulk of statistical evidence to the contrary oh his belief
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur in unvaccinated population. They are more likely to be reinfected or to infect others. Whereas vaccinated people are less likely to suffer severe illness. Overwhelmed hospitals need to ration or delay healthcare for patients. Political affiliation matters more than age, race and education in determining whether someone receives a vaccine dose. Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of pandemic but population vaccination rates are too low.
This remains a fact overall despite occaisonal statistical anomalies which always occur in science.
of course there r nearly always statistical exceptions
makes me laugh when a dude points to an exception then claim that is the relevent truth all over while ignoring the massive bulk of statistical evidence to the contrary oh his belief
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: wait times in Canada compared to the US. Canadian citizens coming to the US for surgeries. taxes in Canada compared to the US. Overall, Canada is ranked ahead of US in healthcare system according to US-based Commonwealth fund. Although wait time is longer in Canada, US rations healthcare by price while Canadian doctors first treat patients who are most sick. Better to be on a waiting list in Canada instead of being uninsured in the US. Only a tiny minority of Canadians travel to the US for healthcare. Vast majority of Canadians stay home. More Americans travel to Canada to buy cheap drugs. Polls show Canadians are more satisfied with their healthcare system than Americans. Besides, life expectancy is higher in Canada. For a universal system, taxes are a fairer way for funding than insurance premiums. No Canadian becomes bankrupt because of medical bills. Canada spends less on healthcare as percentage of GDP while insuring a larger share of population. US has the most unaffordable and wasteful healthcare system in the world with millions of Americans under insured. Well said, thirdperson. Universal health insurance (UHI) has prevailed among almost all of the western nations, except U.S., and industrialized countries around the world. The UHI system won't be so popular in these majority countries if it's deeply flawed, to the contrary the system saves millions of people's lives.
Canadian universal health care system is better than ours by far - when speaking about those who do not count among the wealthy
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: wait times in Canada compared to the US. Canadian citizens coming to the US for surgeries. taxes in Canada compared to the US. Overall, Canada is ranked ahead of US in healthcare system according to US-based Commonwealth fund. Although wait time is longer in Canada, US rations healthcare by price while Canadian doctors first treat patients who are most sick. Better to be on a waiting list in Canada instead of being uninsured in the US. Only a tiny minority of Canadians travel to the US for healthcare. Vast majority of Canadians stay home. More Americans travel to Canada to buy cheap drugs. Polls show Canadians are more satisfied with their healthcare system than Americans. Besides, life expectancy is higher in Canada. For a universal system, taxes are a fairer way for funding than insurance premiums. No Canadian becomes bankrupt because of medical bills. Canada spends less on healthcare as percentage of GDP while insuring a larger share of population. US has the most unaffordable and wasteful healthcare system in the world with millions of Americans under insured. Well said, thirdperson. Universal health insurance (UHI) has prevailed among almost all of the western nations, except U.S., and industrialized countries around the world. The UHI system won't be so popular in these majority countries if it's deeply flawed, to the contrary the system saves millions of people's lives.
Canadian universal health care system is better than ours by far - when speaking about those who do not count among the wealthy
900+ Cornell University students tested Covid positive, school campus at Ithaca, New York has been shut down. "Very high" percentage of those infected students are Omicron variant cases.*
Hold on your butts, it's gonna be some rough ride through this winter. Stay healthy, fellas.
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900+ Cornell University students tested Covid positive, school campus at Ithaca, New York has been shut down. "Very high" percentage of those infected students are Omicron variant cases.*
900+ Cornell University students tested Covid positive, school campus at Ithaca, New York has been shut down. "Very high" percentage of those infected students are Omicron variant cases.* *https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/us/cornell-university-covid-cases/index.html Hold on your butts, it's gonna be some rough ride through this winter. Stay healthy, fellas.
Cornell University vaccination rate close to 100%
Am sure the "vast majority" of COVID cases there are the unvaccinated. Right Thirdperson?
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900+ Cornell University students tested Covid positive, school campus at Ithaca, New York has been shut down. "Very high" percentage of those infected students are Omicron variant cases.* *https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/us/cornell-university-covid-cases/index.html Hold on your butts, it's gonna be some rough ride through this winter. Stay healthy, fellas.
Cornell University vaccination rate close to 100%
Am sure the "vast majority" of COVID cases there are the unvaccinated. Right Thirdperson?
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must have public compliance or the battle vs. the virus will continue endlessly
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