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    The Geriatric Squad Off to Big Lead in Early 2020 Democrat Poll

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    SarasotaSlim
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 1:38 PM ET #1

    Bernie Sanders leads the pack of potential Democratic 2020 candidates with 28% of the vote, followed ...
    by Joe Biden with 17 % and .....
    Elizabeth Warren at 12% according to a new poll by Zogby.

    https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/794-the-zogby-poll-feel-the-bern-sanders-early-favorite-among-2020-democratic-hopefuls

    Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg -- 7 % (the dark horse)
    Sen. Kamala Harris -- 6 %
    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand -- 3 %.
    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo -- 3 %
    Sen. Amy Klobuchar -- 1 %
    Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe -- 1 % ( Clinton favorite)

    The survey added that Sanders is also the favorite of Asian and Hispanic voters.

    Sanders gets a whopping 71 % among younger Hispanic primary voters age 18-29....Give amnesty to DACA"s ..and we can get that to 95%.....

    Between the three leaders ( Sanders,Biden and Warren), they get 57 % of the vote. Their average age on Inauguration Day 2021 would be.............................. nearly 76 years old.

    President Donald J.Trump should have no problem in defeating these out of step, out of touch leftist candidates in 2020..
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    Bernie Sanders leads the pack of potential Democratic 2020 candidates with 28% of the vote, followed ...
    by Joe Biden with 17 % and .....
    Elizabeth Warren at 12% according to a new poll by Zogby.

    https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/794-the-zogby-poll-feel-the-bern-sanders-early-favorite-among-2020-democratic-hopefuls

    Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg -- 7 % (the dark horse)
    Sen. Kamala Harris -- 6 %
    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand -- 3 %.
    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo -- 3 %
    Sen. Amy Klobuchar -- 1 %
    Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe -- 1 % ( Clinton favorite)

    The survey added that Sanders is also the favorite of Asian and Hispanic voters.

    Sanders gets a whopping 71 % among younger Hispanic primary voters age 18-29....Give amnesty to DACA"s ..and we can get that to 95%.....

    Between the three leaders ( Sanders,Biden and Warren), they get 57 % of the vote. Their average age on Inauguration Day 2021 would be.............................. nearly 76 years old.

    President Donald J.Trump should have no problem in defeating these out of step, out of touch leftist candidates in 2020..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 1:54 PM ET #2

    It appears to be another Trump landslide in 2020. What a deplorable field. I would not have a beer with any of them.
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    It appears to be another Trump landslide in 2020. What a deplorable field. I would not have a beer with any of them.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 3:20 PM ET #3

    Zogby is nothing if not a Flaming Progressive( He can be quoted that Trump will be Impeached by the Midterms) but that might explain the far toooo rosy #s for New York's Cuomo (the Idiot Basstard Son) and the current placeholder of the.Clinton' Chair in the Senate. Zogby pisssses himself still when talking about Rodham. 
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    Zogby is nothing if not a Flaming Progressive( He can be quoted that Trump will be Impeached by the Midterms) but that might explain the far toooo rosy #s for New York's Cuomo (the Idiot Basstard Son) and the current placeholder of the.Clinton' Chair in the Senate. Zogby pisssses himself still when talking about Rodham. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 4:59 PM ET #4

    It was my belief that Bernie would've beaten Trump in 2016. Before the primaries were even close to being decided I would always say, "Hillary czn't beat Trump. Bernie can beat Trump but Bernie can't beat Hillary. That is the paradox. With that said, there's no way Bernie can beat Trump in 2020. Bernie, who is only about 5 years older than Trump, comes off as if he's 15 years older than Trump. You add 4 years onto that and he'll only come off even older and kookier. Democrats better get their sh!t together and figure it out or it will be a landslide. My bank is on Joe Biden winning the nomination.
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    It was my belief that Bernie would've beaten Trump in 2016. Before the primaries were even close to being decided I would always say, "Hillary czn't beat Trump. Bernie can beat Trump but Bernie can't beat Hillary. That is the paradox. With that said, there's no way Bernie can beat Trump in 2020. Bernie, who is only about 5 years older than Trump, comes off as if he's 15 years older than Trump. You add 4 years onto that and he'll only come off even older and kookier. Democrats better get their sh!t together and figure it out or it will be a landslide. My bank is on Joe Biden winning the nomination.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 5:28 PM ET #5

    It's Bidens' turn...........
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    It's Bidens' turn...........
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 5:35 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    It appears to be another Trump landslide in 2020. What a deplorable field. I would not have a beer with any of them.

    When was the first Trump landslide? 

    I know you're not one to do much, if any, research. But he didn't win by much last November, against a highly unpopular candidate. 

    He hasn't done much as President so far to sway people that didn't vote for him. He might even alienate his base at the rate he's going. 

    If the Dems can get anyone decent to run, get a few more percentage points in a few swing states, Trump probably won't be President in 2020. 

    You guys voted for this clown. Don't end up mad if we're watching The Rock, Kanye, or Zuckerberg take office in 2020. 





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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    It appears to be another Trump landslide in 2020. What a deplorable field. I would not have a beer with any of them.

    When was the first Trump landslide? 

    I know you're not one to do much, if any, research. But he didn't win by much last November, against a highly unpopular candidate. 

    He hasn't done much as President so far to sway people that didn't vote for him. He might even alienate his base at the rate he's going. 

    If the Dems can get anyone decent to run, get a few more percentage points in a few swing states, Trump probably won't be President in 2020. 

    You guys voted for this clown. Don't end up mad if we're watching The Rock, Kanye, or Zuckerberg take office in 2020. 





     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 6:02 PM ET #7

    By seeing Donald J Jump cuts the deal on DACA with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, Trump might team up either Schumer or Pelosi to run the 2020 campaign.   
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    By seeing Donald J Jump cuts the deal on DACA with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, Trump might team up either Schumer or Pelosi to run the 2020 campaign.   
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 6:16 PM ET #8

    1. The 1st Landslide was November of 16. Trump wins about 98% of the land mass in the US. Trump wins 3,084 out of 3141 counties from Maine to California. Not a Landslide by the strictest of definitions. But a Landslide nevertheless.

    2.The Death of England thread was not verified due to the lack of time on my end. 

    3. At the very least. On the light side. The stock market value has increased by 4 trillion dollars. That would never happen under Lefty leadership.

    4. There is no viable Dem Presidential candidate at this point in time.

    5. I would not be mad if any of the celebrities won. I would be disappointed.


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    1. The 1st Landslide was November of 16. Trump wins about 98% of the land mass in the US. Trump wins 3,084 out of 3141 counties from Maine to California. Not a Landslide by the strictest of definitions. But a Landslide nevertheless.

    2.The Death of England thread was not verified due to the lack of time on my end. 

    3. At the very least. On the light side. The stock market value has increased by 4 trillion dollars. That would never happen under Lefty leadership.

    4. There is no viable Dem Presidential candidate at this point in time.

    5. I would not be mad if any of the celebrities won. I would be disappointed.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 6:56 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    1. The 1st Landslide was November of 16. Trump wins about 98% of the land mass in the US. Trump wins 3,084 out of 3141 counties from Maine to California. Not a Landslide by the strictest of definitions. But a Landslide nevertheless.

    2.The Death of England thread was not verified due to the lack of time on my end. 

    3. At the very least. On the light side. The stock market value has increased by 4 trillion dollars. That would never happen under Lefty leadership.

    4. There is no viable Dem Presidential candidate at this point in time.

    5. I would not be mad if any of the celebrities won. I would be disappointed.



    1. Land doesn't vote, people do. Popular vote wins states, which leads to electoral votes. Winning counties doesn't matter. You can win 95% of counties in certain states, and still lose the state. Trump barely won a few swing states, which can easily go the other way next time. That's literally what the election came down to: a few percentage points in places like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida. Trump barely won those states against one of the most unpopular candidates ever. 

    2. Perhaps you shouldn't create a thread without doing the tiniest of research? Just an idea. 

    3. The Dow Jones has been steadily improving since 2009. Picking an arbitrary time frame doesn't mean you can give credit to Trump for this. This goes back to that research thing again. You should try it sometime. 

    4. There is no election this year. The Dems just need to find someone slightly less hated than HRC in the next two years. 

    5. You should be disappointed right now then. That's all that happened, a celebrity won. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    1. The 1st Landslide was November of 16. Trump wins about 98% of the land mass in the US. Trump wins 3,084 out of 3141 counties from Maine to California. Not a Landslide by the strictest of definitions. But a Landslide nevertheless.

    2.The Death of England thread was not verified due to the lack of time on my end. 

    3. At the very least. On the light side. The stock market value has increased by 4 trillion dollars. That would never happen under Lefty leadership.

    4. There is no viable Dem Presidential candidate at this point in time.

    5. I would not be mad if any of the celebrities won. I would be disappointed.



    1. Land doesn't vote, people do. Popular vote wins states, which leads to electoral votes. Winning counties doesn't matter. You can win 95% of counties in certain states, and still lose the state. Trump barely won a few swing states, which can easily go the other way next time. That's literally what the election came down to: a few percentage points in places like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida. Trump barely won those states against one of the most unpopular candidates ever. 

    2. Perhaps you shouldn't create a thread without doing the tiniest of research? Just an idea. 

    3. The Dow Jones has been steadily improving since 2009. Picking an arbitrary time frame doesn't mean you can give credit to Trump for this. This goes back to that research thing again. You should try it sometime. 

    4. There is no election this year. The Dems just need to find someone slightly less hated than HRC in the next two years. 

    5. You should be disappointed right now then. That's all that happened, a celebrity won. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 6:58 PM ET #10

    I think it was always Trumps plan, and goal, to work towards the middle. I think any good President would take that approach. I think he wanted to be a great uniter and the events of Charlottesville, and his response, threw a monkey wrench into those plans. I think now he's doing a "I give you Daca, you give me tax reform" dance. Personally, I wish it were the other way around but such is life.
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    I think it was always Trumps plan, and goal, to work towards the middle. I think any good President would take that approach. I think he wanted to be a great uniter and the events of Charlottesville, and his response, threw a monkey wrench into those plans. I think now he's doing a "I give you Daca, you give me tax reform" dance. Personally, I wish it were the other way around but such is life.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 8:34 PM ET #11

    The dems viscerated sanders last go 'round, called into question his actual contribution to civil rights involvement, john lewis "i never saw him". One issue candidate. Hard for them to embrace him as the flag bearer. Bernie is right about too much money at the top. Too much money in politics.

    Biden, prob deceased by the time 2020 rolls around.

    Warren, pocahontas? Never, no way.


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    The dems viscerated sanders last go 'round, called into question his actual contribution to civil rights involvement, john lewis "i never saw him". One issue candidate. Hard for them to embrace him as the flag bearer. Bernie is right about too much money at the top. Too much money in politics.

    Biden, prob deceased by the time 2020 rolls around.

    Warren, pocahontas? Never, no way.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 10:52 PM ET #12

    So, the Democrats have Crazy Bernie as their front runner.. My,My..

     ..and how come Tim Kaine didn’t make the list ?   Oh well, I guess people didn't like his  creepy clown act...
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    So, the Democrats have Crazy Bernie as their front runner.. My,My..

     ..and how come Tim Kaine didn’t make the list ?   Oh well, I guess people didn't like his  creepy clown act...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 10:57 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    So, the Democrats have Crazy Bernie as their front runner.. My,My..

     ..and how come Tim Kaine didn’t make the list ?   Oh well, I guess people didn't like his  creepy clown act...

    So what makes Bernie crazy slim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    So, the Democrats have Crazy Bernie as their front runner.. My,My..

     ..and how come Tim Kaine didn’t make the list ?   Oh well, I guess people didn't like his  creepy clown act...

    So what makes Bernie crazy slim?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2017 - 11:58 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    So what makes Bernie crazy slim?

    Senility maybe? Alzheimers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    So what makes Bernie crazy slim?

    Senility maybe? Alzheimers?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2017 - 12:12 AM ET #15

    JANE SANDERS alone sinks her poor ole' hubbies chances
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    JANE SANDERS alone sinks her poor ole' hubbies chances
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2017 - 12:42 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    So what makes Bernie crazy slim?


    Dementia ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    So what makes Bernie crazy slim?


    Dementia ?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2017 - 2:19 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    So what makes Bernie crazy slim?

    Free College Tuition for everyone
    Create Single Payer HealthCare by expanding Medicare (even CB        estimates that first year cost 32Trillion)
    Generally Socialist Solution to every Issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    So what makes Bernie crazy slim?

    Free College Tuition for everyone
    Create Single Payer HealthCare by expanding Medicare (even CB        estimates that first year cost 32Trillion)
    Generally Socialist Solution to every Issue.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    By seeing Donald J Jump cuts the deal on DACA with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, Trump might team up either Schumer or Pelosi to run the 2020 campaign.   


    All this told me is he decided he had no choice but to negotiate with the Democrats because he isn't working with McConnell and couldn't come up any kind of a budget that Republicans will accept.  He doesn't give a crap about DACA but he knew it could be good leverage to get the Democrats to come to the table.

    I remember a Republican from Texas stating Trump is a big-idea guy.  Great.  Anyone can think up what is wrong for issues and denounce them, except that knowing a starting point and how to accomplish it generally are important.  Trump has virtually no principles or morals that he cares about, save abortion perhaps, so he just spews out a tweet for a subject, defers to his peers by saying Congress needs to get it done, since a president isn't supposed to have a defined outline and vision for a country, then he moves on to the next topic in his head as if he really nailed it.

    Take healthcare.  Whether you agree with Bernie or not, he actually sat down and tried to formulate a policy with some of his staff members to fix the issue.  Trump declared Obamacare is terrible, promised it'll be better and more affordable and then said Congress let him down when he wasn't even part of the process.  I believe the most you'll see them do is eventually repeal Obamacare and that's it because they don't have a replacement plan at all.   I'd actually give Trump and Republicans credit if they could craft a good healthcare bill, but there's a better chance of hell freezing over before it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    By seeing Donald J Jump cuts the deal on DACA with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, Trump might team up either Schumer or Pelosi to run the 2020 campaign.   


    All this told me is he decided he had no choice but to negotiate with the Democrats because he isn't working with McConnell and couldn't come up any kind of a budget that Republicans will accept.  He doesn't give a crap about DACA but he knew it could be good leverage to get the Democrats to come to the table.

    I remember a Republican from Texas stating Trump is a big-idea guy.  Great.  Anyone can think up what is wrong for issues and denounce them, except that knowing a starting point and how to accomplish it generally are important.  Trump has virtually no principles or morals that he cares about, save abortion perhaps, so he just spews out a tweet for a subject, defers to his peers by saying Congress needs to get it done, since a president isn't supposed to have a defined outline and vision for a country, then he moves on to the next topic in his head as if he really nailed it.

    Take healthcare.  Whether you agree with Bernie or not, he actually sat down and tried to formulate a policy with some of his staff members to fix the issue.  Trump declared Obamacare is terrible, promised it'll be better and more affordable and then said Congress let him down when he wasn't even part of the process.  I believe the most you'll see them do is eventually repeal Obamacare and that's it because they don't have a replacement plan at all.   I'd actually give Trump and Republicans credit if they could craft a good healthcare bill, but there's a better chance of hell freezing over before it happens.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:


    Free College Tuition for everyone
    Create Single Payer HealthCare by expanding Medicare (even CB        estimates that first year cost 32Trillion)
    Generally Socialist Solution to every Issue.

    We are the greatest country in the world, yes, no? Shouldn't we have these things? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:


    Free College Tuition for everyone
    Create Single Payer HealthCare by expanding Medicare (even CB        estimates that first year cost 32Trillion)
    Generally Socialist Solution to every Issue.

    We are the greatest country in the world, yes, no? Shouldn't we have these things? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    We are the greatest country in the world, yes, no? Shouldn't we have these things? 


    Yes, you should have these things..

    Having a health insurance policy is the right of every American...you shouldn't have a choice to not have a one...

    Isn't that why Congress mandated that every person must buy a health insurance policy (although,I wasn't aware that the Constitution granted Congress that power) or that the words "health"or "health insurance" appear anywhere in the Constitution...

    You have a right to have these things ...man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    We are the greatest country in the world, yes, no? Shouldn't we have these things? 


    Yes, you should have these things..

    Having a health insurance policy is the right of every American...you shouldn't have a choice to not have a one...

    Isn't that why Congress mandated that every person must buy a health insurance policy (although,I wasn't aware that the Constitution granted Congress that power) or that the words "health"or "health insurance" appear anywhere in the Constitution...

    You have a right to have these things ...man.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Yes, you should have these things..

    Having a health insurance policy is the right of every American...you shouldn't have a choice to not have a one...

    Isn't that why Congress mandated that every person must buy a health insurance policy (although,I wasn't aware that the Constitution granted Congress that power) or that the words "health"or "health insurance" appear anywhere in the Constitution...

    You have a right to have these things ...man.

    And I should not have to pay an increase in my health policy to absorb the costs of people that don't have insurance. 

    Do you live in a state that doesn't mandate auto insurance slim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Yes, you should have these things..

    Having a health insurance policy is the right of every American...you shouldn't have a choice to not have a one...

    Isn't that why Congress mandated that every person must buy a health insurance policy (although,I wasn't aware that the Constitution granted Congress that power) or that the words "health"or "health insurance" appear anywhere in the Constitution...

    You have a right to have these things ...man.

    And I should not have to pay an increase in my health policy to absorb the costs of people that don't have insurance. 

    Do you live in a state that doesn't mandate auto insurance slim?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

     
    Elizabeth Warren at 12% according to a new poll by Zogby.
    Sen. Kamala Harris -- 6 %
    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand -- 3 %.
    Sen. Amy Klobuchar -- 1 %



    According to Crooked Hillary, there's a "Game being played to keep women in their place".....

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-theres-a-game-that%e2%80%99s-being-played-to-keep-women-in-their-place/ar-AAs19BY?ocid=spartanntp

    Yep, there's no opportunities for advancement of women in America, impossible to get ahead.....

    Jesus Christ.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

     
    Elizabeth Warren at 12% according to a new poll by Zogby.
    Sen. Kamala Harris -- 6 %
    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand -- 3 %.
    Sen. Amy Klobuchar -- 1 %



    According to Crooked Hillary, there's a "Game being played to keep women in their place".....

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-theres-a-game-that%e2%80%99s-being-played-to-keep-women-in-their-place/ar-AAs19BY?ocid=spartanntp

    Yep, there's no opportunities for advancement of women in America, impossible to get ahead.....

    Jesus Christ.....


     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2017 - 5:30 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    And I should not have to pay an increase in my health policy to absorb the costs of people that don't have insurance. 

    Do you live in a state that doesn't mandate auto insurance slim?


    Not at this time.....although there are more than one state, that allows drivers to register a car without insurance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    And I should not have to pay an increase in my health policy to absorb the costs of people that don't have insurance. 

    Do you live in a state that doesn't mandate auto insurance slim?


    Not at this time.....although there are more than one state, that allows drivers to register a car without insurance...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2017 - 6:59 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Not at this time.....although there are more than one state, that allows drivers to register a car without insurance...

    Do you think it's a good or bad Idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Not at this time.....although there are more than one state, that allows drivers to register a car without insurance...

    Do you think it's a good or bad Idea?

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2017 - 8:08 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    Do you think it's a good or bad Idea?



    It's a good idea ,,If ,a person can prove their ability to pay for damages in the event of an auto accident,, if,they are the ones at fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    Do you think it's a good or bad Idea?



    It's a good idea ,,If ,a person can prove their ability to pay for damages in the event of an auto accident,, if,they are the ones at fault.

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