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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2020 - 6:21 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    If the Trump administration had any dirt on Joe, they would have used it. This is right out of Trump's playbook of developing rabbit holes about illegal voting, President O's wiretapping etc etc.  Joe will also get the "Bernie Bump" because Bernie's supporters see Joe in a different way than they saw H. There is no resentment between the two men. Bernie voters will never vote for Trump like they wouldn't for H. Bernie motivates voters to come out like no other politician & they will be coming out for Joe.

    Assange will feed Trump everything he will need on Joe when the time is right...believe it an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    If the Trump administration had any dirt on Joe, they would have used it. This is right out of Trump's playbook of developing rabbit holes about illegal voting, President O's wiretapping etc etc.  Joe will also get the "Bernie Bump" because Bernie's supporters see Joe in a different way than they saw H. There is no resentment between the two men. Bernie voters will never vote for Trump like they wouldn't for H. Bernie motivates voters to come out like no other politician & they will be coming out for Joe.

    Assange will feed Trump everything he will need on Joe when the time is right...believe it an_light

     
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    The debates will not mean a thing to either candidate. Trumps base is not going to change and that is the problem.

    This election comes down to Michigan, Wisconsin  and Pennsylvania. All three states rode blue waves in 2018 and the Dems have learned form Hillary's mistakes there. Furthermore, Uncle Joe will bring back the African American that didn't show up for Hillary in those states.

    Without those three states there is no path for Trump to win.

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    The debates will not mean a thing to either candidate. Trumps base is not going to change and that is the problem.

    This election comes down to Michigan, Wisconsin  and Pennsylvania. All three states rode blue waves in 2018 and the Dems have learned form Hillary's mistakes there. Furthermore, Uncle Joe will bring back the African American that didn't show up for Hillary in those states.

    Without those three states there is no path for Trump to win.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2020 - 6:34 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If the Trump administration had any dirt on Joe, they would have used it. This is right out of Trump's playbook of developing rabbit holes about illegal voting, President O's wiretapping etc etc.  Joe will also get the "Bernie Bump" because Bernie's supporters see Joe in a different way than they saw H. There is no resentment between the two men. Bernie voters will never vote for Trump like they wouldn't for H. Bernie motivates voters to come out like no other politician & they will be coming out for Joe. Assange will feed Trump everything he will need on Joe when the time is right...believe it

    Biden has Bernie and Obama!  AND you know you are afraid of the Clintons!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If the Trump administration had any dirt on Joe, they would have used it. This is right out of Trump's playbook of developing rabbit holes about illegal voting, President O's wiretapping etc etc.  Joe will also get the "Bernie Bump" because Bernie's supporters see Joe in a different way than they saw H. There is no resentment between the two men. Bernie voters will never vote for Trump like they wouldn't for H. Bernie motivates voters to come out like no other politician & they will be coming out for Joe. Assange will feed Trump everything he will need on Joe when the time is right...believe it

    Biden has Bernie and Obama!  AND you know you are afraid of the Clintons!

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2020 - 7:06 PM ET #29

    Very interesting what Trump had to say today to the Taiwanese reporter  answering the 2nd part of His question in His presser.... (Sanders dropping out and Obama not endorsing Biden.  Bernie keeping His delegates and going for more....even though he's throwing in the towel)???.....He said Obama knows something and inferring that He (Trump) knows the game plan.  I love my 16-1 field bet!  We will see.  They can't put Biden out there....no way.

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    Very interesting what Trump had to say today to the Taiwanese reporter  answering the 2nd part of His question in His presser.... (Sanders dropping out and Obama not endorsing Biden.  Bernie keeping His delegates and going for more....even though he's throwing in the towel)???.....He said Obama knows something and inferring that He (Trump) knows the game plan.  I love my 16-1 field bet!  We will see.  They can't put Biden out there....no way.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2020 - 7:16 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If the Trump administration had any dirt on Joe, they would have used it. This is right out of Trump's playbook of developing rabbit holes about illegal voting, President O's wiretapping etc etc.  Joe will also get the "Bernie Bump" because Bernie's supporters see Joe in a different way than they saw H. There is no resentment between the two men. Bernie voters will never vote for Trump like they wouldn't for H. Bernie motivates voters to come out like no other politician & they will be coming out for Joe. Assange will feed Trump everything he will need on Joe when the time is right...believe it

    The Russian edited version, right?

    Assange shot his load.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If the Trump administration had any dirt on Joe, they would have used it. This is right out of Trump's playbook of developing rabbit holes about illegal voting, President O's wiretapping etc etc.  Joe will also get the "Bernie Bump" because Bernie's supporters see Joe in a different way than they saw H. There is no resentment between the two men. Bernie voters will never vote for Trump like they wouldn't for H. Bernie motivates voters to come out like no other politician & they will be coming out for Joe. Assange will feed Trump everything he will need on Joe when the time is right...believe it

    The Russian edited version, right?

    Assange shot his load.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2020 - 7:18 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyJones:

    Very interesting what Trump had to say today to the Taiwanese reporter  answering the 2nd part of His question in His presser.... (Sanders dropping out and Obama not endorsing Biden.  Bernie keeping His delegates and going for more....even though he's throwing in the towel)???.....He said Obama knows something and inferring that He (Trump) knows the game plan.  I love my 16-1 field bet!  We will see.  They can't put Biden out there....no way.

    Fake news.

    A hundy says Bernie & President O will endorse Joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyJones:

    Very interesting what Trump had to say today to the Taiwanese reporter  answering the 2nd part of His question in His presser.... (Sanders dropping out and Obama not endorsing Biden.  Bernie keeping His delegates and going for more....even though he's throwing in the towel)???.....He said Obama knows something and inferring that He (Trump) knows the game plan.  I love my 16-1 field bet!  We will see.  They can't put Biden out there....no way.

    Fake news.

    A hundy says Bernie & President O will endorse Joe.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2020 - 9:29 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyJones: Very interesting what Trump had to say today to the Taiwanese reporter  answering the 2nd part of His question in His presser.... (Sanders dropping out and Obama not endorsing Biden.  Bernie keeping His delegates and going for more....even though he's throwing in the towel)???.....He said Obama knows something and inferring that He (Trump) knows the game plan.  I love my 16-1 field bet!  We will see.  They can't put Biden out there....no way. Fake news. A hundy says Bernie & President O will endorse Joe.

    Fake News???   Time stamp 6:37 ET is the time the question was asked during presser....I was watching....You and everyone else... check it out.  Classic!

                        At best Biden is a Trojan Horse bringing in the VP or His handlers...(I think the Dementia is a bit of an act)......How about the AP press release today......(paraphrase) Bernie Quits and leaves Biden as the "LIKELY" Democratic Nominee 

    As for the hundy.....save your money$$$  I have quite the laydown already played against sleepy.  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyJones: Very interesting what Trump had to say today to the Taiwanese reporter  answering the 2nd part of His question in His presser.... (Sanders dropping out and Obama not endorsing Biden.  Bernie keeping His delegates and going for more....even though he's throwing in the towel)???.....He said Obama knows something and inferring that He (Trump) knows the game plan.  I love my 16-1 field bet!  We will see.  They can't put Biden out there....no way. Fake news. A hundy says Bernie & President O will endorse Joe.

    Fake News???   Time stamp 6:37 ET is the time the question was asked during presser....I was watching....You and everyone else... check it out.  Classic!

                        At best Biden is a Trojan Horse bringing in the VP or His handlers...(I think the Dementia is a bit of an act)......How about the AP press release today......(paraphrase) Bernie Quits and leaves Biden as the "LIKELY" Democratic Nominee 

    As for the hundy.....save your money$$$  I have quite the laydown already played against sleepy.  

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If the Trump administration had any dirt on Joe, they would have used it. This is right out of Trump's playbook of developing rabbit holes about illegal voting, President O's wiretapping etc etc.  Joe will also get the "Bernie Bump" because Bernie's supporters see Joe in a different way than they saw H. There is no resentment between the two men. Bernie voters will never vote for Trump like they wouldn't for H. Bernie motivates voters to come out like no other politician & they will be coming out for Joe. Assange will feed Trump everything he will need on Joe when the time is right...believe it Biden has Bernie and Obama!  AND you know you are afraid of the Clintons!

     

    Damn right im afraid of those child sex slave traffickers...i have kids of my own...any parent should demand the Clintons to face justice for all the lives they have ruined and terminated prematurely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If the Trump administration had any dirt on Joe, they would have used it. This is right out of Trump's playbook of developing rabbit holes about illegal voting, President O's wiretapping etc etc.  Joe will also get the "Bernie Bump" because Bernie's supporters see Joe in a different way than they saw H. There is no resentment between the two men. Bernie voters will never vote for Trump like they wouldn't for H. Bernie motivates voters to come out like no other politician & they will be coming out for Joe. Assange will feed Trump everything he will need on Joe when the time is right...believe it Biden has Bernie and Obama!  AND you know you are afraid of the Clintons!

     

    Damn right im afraid of those child sex slave traffickers...i have kids of my own...any parent should demand the Clintons to face justice for all the lives they have ruined and terminated prematurely.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 1:42 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    The debates will not mean a thing to either candidate. Trumps base is not going to change and that is the problem. This election comes down to Michigan, Wisconsin  and Pennsylvania. All three states rode blue waves in 2018 and the Dems have learned form Hillary's mistakes there. Furthermore, Uncle Joe will bring back the African American that didn't show up for Hillary in those states. Without those three states there is no path for Trump to win.

    There is no way your claim of blacks supporting the left will ever happen...this is how the black vote will go as they stay home now and self educate and enlighten:

     

    https://youtu.be/NuwGIbeZ6YU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    The debates will not mean a thing to either candidate. Trumps base is not going to change and that is the problem. This election comes down to Michigan, Wisconsin  and Pennsylvania. All three states rode blue waves in 2018 and the Dems have learned form Hillary's mistakes there. Furthermore, Uncle Joe will bring back the African American that didn't show up for Hillary in those states. Without those three states there is no path for Trump to win.

    There is no way your claim of blacks supporting the left will ever happen...this is how the black vote will go as they stay home now and self educate and enlighten:

     

    https://youtu.be/NuwGIbeZ6YU

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 2:10 PM ET #35

    Heres another freudian slip of how Dems view the world thru their "unique" perspective...how did Tlaib get elected is truly a mystery to me:

     

    https://youtu.be/glKa_EI24RU

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    Heres another freudian slip of how Dems view the world thru their "unique" perspective...how did Tlaib get elected is truly a mystery to me:

     

    https://youtu.be/glKa_EI24RU

     
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    And another Freudian slip...another glowing Democrat showing true colors...how did she still an elected official after the she got caught marrying her brother? You cant make this stuff up folks:

     

    https://youtu.be/9C_DKzp21JQ

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    And another Freudian slip...another glowing Democrat showing true colors...how did she still an elected official after the she got caught marrying her brother? You cant make this stuff up folks:

     

    https://youtu.be/9C_DKzp21JQ

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 2:33 PM ET #37

    Trump Org has approached Deutsche Bank about delaying loan payments.

    Jesus Christ it is embarrassing having a deadbeat President begging foreign banks for favors while in office.

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    Trump Org has approached Deutsche Bank about delaying loan payments.

    Jesus Christ it is embarrassing having a deadbeat President begging foreign banks for favors while in office.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Trump Org has approached Deutsche Bank about delaying loan payments. Jesus Christ it is embarrassing having a deadbeat President begging foreign banks for favors while in office.

    Trump knows every single legal loophole there is, are you jealous of his shrewd business savvy knowing when to zig or when to zag?

     

    @7:15...Heres something that is really embarrassing for Joe:

     

    https://youtu.be/ZLSaId-QqLk

     

    How many more of these would you like me to post between now and the election? I have 1000s more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Trump Org has approached Deutsche Bank about delaying loan payments. Jesus Christ it is embarrassing having a deadbeat President begging foreign banks for favors while in office.

    Trump knows every single legal loophole there is, are you jealous of his shrewd business savvy knowing when to zig or when to zag?

     

    @7:15...Heres something that is really embarrassing for Joe:

     

    https://youtu.be/ZLSaId-QqLk

     

    How many more of these would you like me to post between now and the election? I have 1000s more.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 3:01 PM ET #39

    Im sure Joe will gladly accept Alexia's Occasional Cortex endorsement...would it be cool if she was the VP nominee, being just a sleepy creepy heartbeat away from running the United Immigrant Society of the American States?

    @5:52 for a serious moment:

     

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    Im sure Joe will gladly accept Alexia's Occasional Cortex endorsement...would it be cool if she was the VP nominee, being just a sleepy creepy heartbeat away from running the United Immigrant Society of the American States?

    @5:52 for a serious moment:

     

    https://youtu.be/4_COOk67-G8

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 3:26 PM ET #40

    On January 27th, Joe Biden wrote an op-ed saying the United States was not prepared for this pandemic and needed to do more to prepare. As late as March 8th, Donald Trump was saying that this was no worse than the flu and nothing to worry about. The choice is clear in November.

    He got rid of the pandemic team President O created & we could sure have used them during this pandemic.

    Trump had his chance and failed miserably.

    He's gotta go.

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    On January 27th, Joe Biden wrote an op-ed saying the United States was not prepared for this pandemic and needed to do more to prepare. As late as March 8th, Donald Trump was saying that this was no worse than the flu and nothing to worry about. The choice is clear in November.

    He got rid of the pandemic team President O created & we could sure have used them during this pandemic.

    Trump had his chance and failed miserably.

    He's gotta go.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 3:54 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Joe will prosecute Trump on the debate stage and Trump will insult, blame and lie as always. It will become abundantly clear to the American people we will be better as a country with Biden as president.

     

    I have to respectfully disagree with your assumptions. Joe can’t debate. He either gets mad and starts mumbling profusely, or puts on that fake horse- tooth smile. It will not due vs Trump. Thats if Joe even makes it to the dance. 

     

    If you compare the two agenda’s, (left and right), the democrats have turned themselves into an anti middle class, anri small business and anti Constitutional party. They are not even trying to hide from it. That is where they went totally wrong. Joe was the lesser of all evils for the dems. Yet evil none the less.  

    The Democrat agenda is to try Joe because he used to be likable and stick someone in as Vice Pres. to take over for him in considerably less time than Joes 4 years. They have to know Joe is mentally unable for the position. To put him on a stage with a shark like Trump will demoralize him further. 

    Both parties are out for blood and it will be “ katy bar the doors “ come debate time.

     

    JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Joe will prosecute Trump on the debate stage and Trump will insult, blame and lie as always. It will become abundantly clear to the American people we will be better as a country with Biden as president.

     

    I have to respectfully disagree with your assumptions. Joe can’t debate. He either gets mad and starts mumbling profusely, or puts on that fake horse- tooth smile. It will not due vs Trump. Thats if Joe even makes it to the dance. 

     

    If you compare the two agenda’s, (left and right), the democrats have turned themselves into an anti middle class, anri small business and anti Constitutional party. They are not even trying to hide from it. That is where they went totally wrong. Joe was the lesser of all evils for the dems. Yet evil none the less.  

    The Democrat agenda is to try Joe because he used to be likable and stick someone in as Vice Pres. to take over for him in considerably less time than Joes 4 years. They have to know Joe is mentally unable for the position. To put him on a stage with a shark like Trump will demoralize him further. 

    Both parties are out for blood and it will be “ katy bar the doors “ come debate time.

     

    JMO

     
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    I'm not so sure Trump is looking forward to the debate because unlike 2016, he now has a political record that can be exposed.

    He will get fact checked by well prepared questioners & as slimy and slippery as he is, Trump doesn't have "facts" readily available in his brain.

    Joe has a quick temper which he will have to control. I think the TV ratings will go through the roof.

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    I'm not so sure Trump is looking forward to the debate because unlike 2016, he now has a political record that can be exposed.

    He will get fact checked by well prepared questioners & as slimy and slippery as he is, Trump doesn't have "facts" readily available in his brain.

    Joe has a quick temper which he will have to control. I think the TV ratings will go through the roof.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 4:36 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Im sure Joe will gladly accept Alexia's Occasional Cortex endorsement...would it be cool if she was the VP nominee, being just a sleepy creepy heartbeat away from running the United Immigrant Society of the American States? @5:52 for a serious moment:   https://youtu.be/4_COOk67-G8

    Of course we know ...Age eligibility.... By virtue of the Twelfth Amendment , the Vice President is required to be at least 35 years old...

    AOC is 30 years old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Im sure Joe will gladly accept Alexia's Occasional Cortex endorsement...would it be cool if she was the VP nominee, being just a sleepy creepy heartbeat away from running the United Immigrant Society of the American States? @5:52 for a serious moment:   https://youtu.be/4_COOk67-G8

    Of course we know ...Age eligibility.... By virtue of the Twelfth Amendment , the Vice President is required to be at least 35 years old...

    AOC is 30 years old...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 4:47 PM ET #44

    Does anyone think Trump will replace Pence as his running mate?

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    Does anyone think Trump will replace Pence as his running mate?

     
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    Why would Trump replace  him ?  It makes no sense.  Those that support Trump will support him regardless of who his VP is... and those that don't like Trump wouldn't vote for him even if Mother Teresa were on the ticket.  

    As a final note, I don't get the impression Trump doesn't like working with Pence.  

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    Why would Trump replace  him ?  It makes no sense.  Those that support Trump will support him regardless of who his VP is... and those that don't like Trump wouldn't vote for him even if Mother Teresa were on the ticket.  

    As a final note, I don't get the impression Trump doesn't like working with Pence.  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 7:45 PM ET #46

    So I surmise that's a no from you.

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    So I surmise that's a no from you.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2020 - 10:39 PM ET #47

    Yes ..

     

     

     

     

     

    ( correct bigsmile)

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    Yes ..

     

     

     

     

     

    ( correct bigsmile)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I'm not so sure Trump is looking forward to the debate because unlike 2016, he now has a political record that can be exposed. He will get fact checked by well prepared questioners & as slimy and slippery as he is, Trump doesn't have "facts" readily available in his brain. Joe has a quick temper which he will have to control. I think the TV ratings will go through the roof.

     

    Sure sounds like you have Trump out of the race. No one has been more slippery and slimy than the democrat party for over three years now. Slimy, slippery and viscous as Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff and Biden. Everyone on the left seems to forget Joe’s quid pro quo to get the prosecutor fired and then gloat about it. For his sons benefit, not for America.

     

    The hatred is all coming from the left. They at any cost, even American lives, only care about the loss in 2016. They cannot get past it. 

     

    If we are going to go solely on Trumps record since winning the White House. It will be a landslide victory for him. All of this while constantly under attack from democrat assumptions and lies. Thats all it ever turned out to be. The media is just as guilty as the politicians.

     

    I guess we can go back and forth all day and all night. We’ll just have to wait until the elections are over and hope for America’s success going into the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I'm not so sure Trump is looking forward to the debate because unlike 2016, he now has a political record that can be exposed. He will get fact checked by well prepared questioners & as slimy and slippery as he is, Trump doesn't have "facts" readily available in his brain. Joe has a quick temper which he will have to control. I think the TV ratings will go through the roof.

     

    Sure sounds like you have Trump out of the race. No one has been more slippery and slimy than the democrat party for over three years now. Slimy, slippery and viscous as Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff and Biden. Everyone on the left seems to forget Joe’s quid pro quo to get the prosecutor fired and then gloat about it. For his sons benefit, not for America.

     

    The hatred is all coming from the left. They at any cost, even American lives, only care about the loss in 2016. They cannot get past it. 

     

    If we are going to go solely on Trumps record since winning the White House. It will be a landslide victory for him. All of this while constantly under attack from democrat assumptions and lies. Thats all it ever turned out to be. The media is just as guilty as the politicians.

     

    I guess we can go back and forth all day and all night. We’ll just have to wait until the elections are over and hope for America’s success going into the future.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2020 - 3:00 AM ET #49

    No way for Trump to win!

    Wisky, Mich and Penn will go blue, just like the 2018 elections.

    There is no blue state turning red.

     

    Can you say:

    Attorney General Adam Schiff !

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    No way for Trump to win!

    Wisky, Mich and Penn will go blue, just like the 2018 elections.

    There is no blue state turning red.

     

    Can you say:

    Attorney General Adam Schiff !

     
     
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    Joe Biden moves in a “more progressive direction”since Bernie dropped out...designed to appeal to younger BernieBros and left-leaning voters who were skeptical of his candidacy and instead supported Sen. Bernie ...( more free stuff )

    Biden released plans to expand Medicare eligibility and forgive some student debt..

    ...Joe Biden is pivoting to the left as he begins his general election campaign against President Donald Trump, promising to eliminate student debt for a huge portion of people making under $125,000 a year and lowering the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 60....

    Biden buying votes with our money.

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    Joe Biden moves in a “more progressive direction”since Bernie dropped out...designed to appeal to younger BernieBros and left-leaning voters who were skeptical of his candidacy and instead supported Sen. Bernie ...( more free stuff )

    Biden released plans to expand Medicare eligibility and forgive some student debt..

    ...Joe Biden is pivoting to the left as he begins his general election campaign against President Donald Trump, promising to eliminate student debt for a huge portion of people making under $125,000 a year and lowering the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 60....

    Biden buying votes with our money.

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