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    Trump and the Tapes !

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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2023 - 10:54 AM ET #1

    It is now obvious the reason and purpose Trump retained the documents! Each document was intended to be used to support in some form of defense in the possible charges that were coming the day he left office. On the tape the staffer  mentions Miley says you start the coup on January 6th to which he “ like he had them on a Rolodex “ to which Trump replies Wait a minute let me see here ! Well with Miley - uh let’s see here"He said that I wanted to attack Iran; isn’t it amazing?" Trump said "I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him. They presented me this – this is off the record but – they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him," Trump said, per the clip."All sorts of stuff, pages long. Let’s see here," Trump continued. "Isn't that amazing. This totally wins my case, you know, except that it is like highly confidential, secret, this is secret information." They have plan for Iran …Not me!
    Each and every document that he took and refused to return had value in a way of deflecting blame to others for his many warped decisions! I don’t doubt for second that Miley knows Trump has material that would be news breaking about the joint chiefs & the defense department! This is Trump text book 101 ….Blame, Defect, Blackmail or Payoff! These documents in his mind were his ticket to a public opinion Pardon!…..And definitely with the MAGA cult. It take very little imagination to realize each and every document had a distinct purpose regardless of what they would do to weaken our countries defense or standing in the world if declassified ! As he could give a rats @ss about that! Its all about self preservation !….Never forget John McCain was no hero “ Hero’s don’t get captured “ This is the Art of the deal.

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    It is now obvious the reason and purpose Trump retained the documents! Each document was intended to be used to support in some form of defense in the possible charges that were coming the day he left office. On the tape the staffer  mentions Miley says you start the coup on January 6th to which he “ like he had them on a Rolodex “ to which Trump replies Wait a minute let me see here ! Well with Miley - uh let’s see here"He said that I wanted to attack Iran; isn’t it amazing?" Trump said "I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him. They presented me this – this is off the record but – they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him," Trump said, per the clip."All sorts of stuff, pages long. Let’s see here," Trump continued. "Isn't that amazing. This totally wins my case, you know, except that it is like highly confidential, secret, this is secret information." They have plan for Iran …Not me!
    Each and every document that he took and refused to return had value in a way of deflecting blame to others for his many warped decisions! I don’t doubt for second that Miley knows Trump has material that would be news breaking about the joint chiefs & the defense department! This is Trump text book 101 ….Blame, Defect, Blackmail or Payoff! These documents in his mind were his ticket to a public opinion Pardon!…..And definitely with the MAGA cult. It take very little imagination to realize each and every document had a distinct purpose regardless of what they would do to weaken our countries defense or standing in the world if declassified ! As he could give a rats @ss about that! Its all about self preservation !….Never forget John McCain was no hero “ Hero’s don’t get captured “ This is the Art of the deal.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2023 - 8:33 PM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    It is now obvious the reason and purpose Trump retained the documents! Each document was intended to be used to support in some form of defense in the possible charges that were coming the day he left office.

    Those who watch only Fox News will not learn of this.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    It is now obvious the reason and purpose Trump retained the documents! Each document was intended to be used to support in some form of defense in the possible charges that were coming the day he left office.

    Those who watch only Fox News will not learn of this.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2023 - 8:41 PM ET #3

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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2023 - 3:58 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    It is now obvious the reason and purpose Trump retained the documents! Each document was intended to be used to support in some form of defense in the possible charges that were coming the day he left office.

    Each and every document that he took and refused to return had value in a way of deflecting blame to others for his many warped decisions!

    This is Trump text book 101 ….Blame, Deflect, Blackmail or Payoff!

    These documents [ed, deliberately stolen] in his mind, were his ticket to a public opinion Pardon!…..And definitely with the MAGA cult. 

    @joe pockets

     Hammer.  Nail.  Head.  peace_5

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    It is now obvious the reason and purpose Trump retained the documents! Each document was intended to be used to support in some form of defense in the possible charges that were coming the day he left office.

    Each and every document that he took and refused to return had value in a way of deflecting blame to others for his many warped decisions!

    This is Trump text book 101 ….Blame, Deflect, Blackmail or Payoff!

    These documents [ed, deliberately stolen] in his mind, were his ticket to a public opinion Pardon!…..And definitely with the MAGA cult. 

    @joe pockets

     Hammer.  Nail.  Head.  peace_5

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2023 - 9:49 AM ET #5

    There is no deflecting blame, Milley outright lied. Milley said Trump wanted to attack Iran. No, Milley drew up a plan to attack Iran and handed it to Trump. Trump has that plan. Am sure he kept it as proof who the liar was.

    For Trump to say he did not declassify it shoots a big hole in his "I declassified all my documents" statements. He admitted he had classified docs. OK, can he posess them as a former president? Biden had several for years and he wasn't even president. Giving them back after someone else finds out is like stealing and then giving back the stolen items after someone else sees them. Your still guilty! an_light

    And letting this out to the public is a big no-no. Legally it hurts the prosecutors case, more a political move. 

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    There is no deflecting blame, Milley outright lied. Milley said Trump wanted to attack Iran. No, Milley drew up a plan to attack Iran and handed it to Trump. Trump has that plan. Am sure he kept it as proof who the liar was.

    For Trump to say he did not declassify it shoots a big hole in his "I declassified all my documents" statements. He admitted he had classified docs. OK, can he posess them as a former president? Biden had several for years and he wasn't even president. Giving them back after someone else finds out is like stealing and then giving back the stolen items after someone else sees them. Your still guilty! an_light

    And letting this out to the public is a big no-no. Legally it hurts the prosecutors case, more a political move. 

    an_popcorn

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2023 - 10:52 AM ET #6

    He sounded like a moron who had no place being POTUS, he was more interested in "look at me" and had no idea what the crap he was talking about.

    Vintage Trump

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    He sounded like a moron who had no place being POTUS, he was more interested in "look at me" and had no idea what the crap he was talking about.

    Vintage Trump

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2023 - 11:23 AM ET #7

    All presidents show top secret information to journalists.  

     

    Has anyone ever read the book.. The Obama Wars.. by Bob Woodward?  

    Obama gave Woodward tons of top secret classified information for millions to read.  Nobody cared.  

     

    Trumps indictment is all dirty politics. 

     

    Everyone in the media knows about journalists viewing classified documents in the past.  The media just lies right through their teeth when they talk about Trump breaking the law.  

     

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    All presidents show top secret information to journalists.  

     

    Has anyone ever read the book.. The Obama Wars.. by Bob Woodward?  

    Obama gave Woodward tons of top secret classified information for millions to read.  Nobody cared.  

     

    Trumps indictment is all dirty politics. 

     

    Everyone in the media knows about journalists viewing classified documents in the past.  The media just lies right through their teeth when they talk about Trump breaking the law.  

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2023 - 9:19 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    He sounded like a moron who had no place being POTUS, he was more interested in "look at me" and had no idea what the crap he was talking about.

    Vintage Trump

    Couldn't have said that any better  peace_5

     

    an_lightOf course this does not make Biden a top draft pick/angel by default, just because trump is so gawdawful.  NO WAY!!  And I have stated this often before. 

    But Biden was and still is the far better choice than the twice-impeached, twice-indicted, pro-fascist insurrectionist, who acts ONLY in his own self-interest, with a persistent phobia for the truth.....and totally disgusting SEX OFFENDER

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    He sounded like a moron who had no place being POTUS, he was more interested in "look at me" and had no idea what the crap he was talking about.

    Vintage Trump

    Couldn't have said that any better  peace_5

     

    an_lightOf course this does not make Biden a top draft pick/angel by default, just because trump is so gawdawful.  NO WAY!!  And I have stated this often before. 

    But Biden was and still is the far better choice than the twice-impeached, twice-indicted, pro-fascist insurrectionist, who acts ONLY in his own self-interest, with a persistent phobia for the truth.....and totally disgusting SEX OFFENDER

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2023 - 6:46 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    the twice-impeached, twice-indicted, pro-fascist insurrectionist, who acts ONLY in his own self-interest, with a persistent phobia for the truth.....and totally disgusting SEX OFFENDER
      Uh ya, true, but other than that Trump is ok  an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    the twice-impeached, twice-indicted, pro-fascist insurrectionist, who acts ONLY in his own self-interest, with a persistent phobia for the truth.....and totally disgusting SEX OFFENDER
      Uh ya, true, but other than that Trump is ok  an_roll_laugh

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2023 - 9:08 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    He sounded like a moron who had no place being POTUS,

    he was more interested in "look at me" and had no idea what the crap he was talking about.

    Vintage Trump

    @wallstreetcappers  peace_5  Fully agree,  and I don't expect his blunders to stop either as he has consistently demonstrated right up through today an_popcorn

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    He sounded like a moron who had no place being POTUS,

    he was more interested in "look at me" and had no idea what the crap he was talking about.

    Vintage Trump

    @wallstreetcappers  peace_5  Fully agree,  and I don't expect his blunders to stop either as he has consistently demonstrated right up through today an_popcorn

     

     

     

     

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