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LQQks like someone needs to get off their high horse....
 
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Slim - why did you spell look with QQ? Were you trying to be clever? If so we are burying the lead in this thread. Grown men do not need to so that.
 
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I do not have emoticons on my phone ( for obvious reasons) but I assume you know what I am getting at.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

I do not have emoticons on my phone ( for obvious reasons) but I assume you know what I am getting at.



<rolling head emoticon >





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The funny thing is my original post was the usual criticism of Obama's foreign policy. I understand you stopped reading after seeing the word 'magnified' as you knew you would be unable to comprehend the rest of the statement. 

I asked a number of questions to Killer and (with sarcasm) shockingly, did not receive a response. Perhaps you can provide you for Killer since you owe him. If it were not for Killer, you would be at the bottom of the covers posters intellectual totem pole. 

But what is the solution? Wiping them off the face of the Earth? Can you get all of them? Who is them? And how do you do so? Boots on the ground? Will Americans stand for troops dying? 


(I'll assume these are the questions I'm to answer?)
And before I answer the questions, I don't need FOX News, all I have to 
do is listen to the mouthpieces that the administration turns loose daily.
It's a wonder FOX is even in business, all I have to do is listen
to Holder, Saki, or that blonde with the librarian glasses. OMG,
are you kidding me?

So DJ, after 30+ years of liberalism including open borders, mass immigration
from every turd-world nation on earth I'm supposed to come up with solutions
when I never would've allowed the demographics of the country to be
altered to the point it is today...

For starters, no more immigration from Muslim countries for 5-10 years or until
the Jihad business is over. Enforce
the immigration laws on the books, stop saying the system is broken when
1 million people immigrate here legally every year. Anyone here over staying
a Visa past 60 days gets 2 years in jail. I believe the significant number of 
people here illegally are in that class and that problem would solve itself.

The current administration has pretty much set the Middle East on fire and
how does it get put out. America must start un-mercifully start bombing these
cavemen where ever they roam. A lot of innocent people are going to die,
that's a shame but if it isn't done, we're going to be the innocent people
eventually. Now that Egypt & Jordan are on board they could be 
a big help with intelligence. They should be able to get personnel in position
to identify targets. Without a doubt, boots on the ground will be a necessity
and I'd put every Middle East leader on notice that if they don't get on board
with this, they get cutoff from everything. Saudi Arabia, no more oil sales to
the U.S. and NO protection, if you get invaded, we'll wait til it's over, then we 
go in an kill them. The U.S. is so stupid, they never play the strong hand
we have. I've never seen a country that never puts its best interests first,
we're more or less a suicidal nation and you have to know with the
leadership we have the country is on its deathbed...

Now DJ, I don't believe anything I wrote will ever happen. The country
will be lost and go up in smoke before any of those suggestions would
ever be considered their so radical, but keep importing people that want
to blowup the Boston Marathon or go to Syria and join ISIS, that's the
liberal thing to do...










 
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"For starters, no more immigration from Muslim countries for 5-10 years or until
the Jihad business is over. Enforce''
 
This is a great starting point..because Muslim Jihad immigration has already started.
 
Five years ago Obama issued an executive order to expedite immigrant visa requests from Islamic countries. A person from a Muslim country could become a U.S. citizen in as little as ten weeks, with no I.D. and no declaration of allegiance to the U.S. Constitution...
 
Between 2010 and 2013, there was actually a greater increase in the number of immigrants from the Middle East than from Central America..
 
The number of Muslims in America is growing by the millions  But, since the U.S. Census Bureau cannot count adherents of a religion we don't know how many .
 
If Islamic immigration doesn't stop, Islamic terror doesn't stop...
 
..and yet yesterday Vice President Joe Biden said we are a melting pot and suggested that we could counter violent extremism by assimilating immigrants which would help prevent terrorist attacks on U.S ...............BS
 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


The funny thing is my original post was the usual criticism of Obama's foreign policy. I understand you stopped reading after seeing the word 'magnified' as you knew you would be unable to comprehend the rest of the statement. 

I asked a number of questions to Killer and (with sarcasm) shockingly, did not receive a response. Perhaps you can provide you for Killer since you owe him. If it were not for Killer, you would be at the bottom of the covers posters intellectual totem pole. 

But what is the solution? Wiping them off the face of the Earth? Can you get all of them? Who is them? And how do you do so? Boots on the ground? Will Americans stand for troops dying? 


I think it's safe to say that killer and myself didn't get fooled by the Obama election machine. That would put us at least above everyone that did get obama tingles up their leg on the totem pole no?


 
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Muslims have no intentions whatsoever of assimilating. Where ever they mass, they wish to impose their culture on the host country. Ask France how multi-culturalism is working out. Obama said he was going to transform the U.S. and without a doubt he is... Get ready for more one-off terrorist attacks in the U.S. And you know it'll be the same thing "we were investigating these individuals" blah blah blah. And the other line "we have to make sure this never happens again" (yeah right)...
 
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Ignorant old white dude comments.. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Ignorant old white dude comments.. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

Muslims have no intentions whatsoever of assimilating. Where ever they mass, they wish to impose their culture on the host country. Ask France how multi-culturalism is working out. Obama said he was going to transform the U.S. and without a doubt he is... Get ready for more one-off terrorist attacks in the U.S. And you know it'll be the same thing "we were investigating these individuals" blah blah blah. And the other line "we have to make sure this never happens again" (yeah right)...

Substitute 'muslims' for 'blacks' and surely, your grandfather said the same thing. 

It should be pointed out that how many Americans have died on American soil due to terrorist attacks under Obama as compared to other recent Presidents?

I believe that may be called something like game, set, match. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


I think it's safe to say that killer and myself didn't get fooled by the Obama election machine. That would put us at least above everyone that did get obama tingles up their leg on the totem pole no?



Its safe to say that you haven't answered my questions about the solutions. 

Perhaps Obama has been an abject failure in certain areas, but to quote a Star Trek theme, he cannot reprogram a computer to create a solution to a no win situation. 

And the problem with right wing extremist sheep is they will attack no matter the situation, without providing solutions. 
 
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Maybe Obama can give all of out ISIS brothers EBT cards? That should do it!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


Its safe to say that you haven't answered my questions about the solutions. 

Perhaps Obama has been an abject failure in certain areas, but to quote a Star Trek theme, he cannot reprogram a computer to create a solution to a no win situation. 

And the problem with right wing extremist sheep is they will attack no matter the situation, without providing solutions. 

I watched both of Obama's speeches from the terrorists summit. I found myself in agreement with him on at least 90% of what he said.

Middle East is probably the most complex region to sort out on the whole earth. 

I think our military commanders have been screwing up in Iraq and Afghanistan since the beginning. 

At first we didn't win the hearts and minds in Iraq because of certain tactics deployed. It took the surge and much less mellon thumping to finally make headway.

In Afghanistan it seems to me we didn't use Apache helicopters as wisely as possible or there would have been far fewer ridge line ambushes on our troops on patrol or in convoy. I admit, I don't know the full capabilities of the military.

I do believe however that a small brigade in each region could cripple isis movements and degrade them into oblivion in a relatively short amount of time.

We may have to utilize most of the spy satellites for the effort. 

Abject failure is way too nice. He gave his tell sign long ago. He is the most smoke and mirrors person ever IMO. Wait until after he leaves office... I predict many more whistle blowers to come out then.

This immigration amnesty order is prime example of how he thinks. He knows he doesn't have constitutional authority, but he didn't let that stop him. Now we have a huge waste of time and money for the SCOTUS to ultimately determine just that.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


I watched both of Obama's speeches from the terrorists summit. I found myself in agreement with him on at least 90% of what he said.

Middle East is probably the most complex region to sort out on the whole earth. 

I think our military commanders have been screwing up in Iraq and Afghanistan since the beginning. 

At first we didn't win the hearts and minds in Iraq because of certain tactics deployed. It took the surge and much less mellon thumping to finally make headway.

In Afghanistan it seems to me we didn't use Apache helicopters as wisely as possible or there would have been far fewer ridge line ambushes on our troops on patrol or in convoy. I admit, I don't know the full capabilities of the military.

I do believe however that a small brigade in each region could cripple isis movements and degrade them into oblivion in a relatively short amount of time.

We may have to utilize most of the spy satellites for the effort. 

Abject failure is way too nice. He gave his tell sign long ago. He is the most smoke and mirrors person ever IMO. Wait until after he leaves office... I predict many more whistle blowers to come out then.

This immigration amnesty order is prime example of how he thinks. He knows he doesn't have constitutional authority, but he didn't let that stop him. Now we have a huge waste of time and money for the SCOTUS to ultimately determine just that.


You keep posting like this, it is going to make it difficult for me to immediately dismiss your intelligence. 

Iraq, Afghan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc. It really doesn't matter what country you name, they all have striking similarities in terms of political history, which is that democracies last about as long as a Florida winter. 

It really doesn't matter what the US does in terms of their governments because any change in the head of the dictatorships is going to be temporary until another one consolidates power, and represses the minority extremists. Groups like ISIS wouldn't survive in a strong dictatorship in any of those countries because they would not have any power. They prey upon a weakened fractioned government by instituting fear and terror. 

Iraq beget Egypt which beget Libya which beget Syria. We never seem to learn. 

Bush I had it right by fighting Iraq and leaving SH in power with the devil you know policy. 

Tactics, helicopters, troops, etc. are temporary answers that lead to permanent quandaries. In Iraq, US troops continued to die propping up a house of cards that was going to collapse as soon as we left. Stay forever and add more troops is the only solution with the cost of US lives. The public turned against it. 

As for ISIS, this isn't fighting Nazis wearing army unis. This is an unknown enemy, like the Vietcong. We would incur significant losses of life to fight on the ground and every military person knows it. Therein is the ultimate problem that everyone must consider; i.e. is it worth it. 

I don't know that answer. 
 
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Just found out MSNBC is cancelling Joy Reid. Since she is unemployed I guess she'll be joining ISIS.
 
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Whose that?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

Whose that?


I guess that's why she's getting cancelled.

As long as they don't cancel my lord and savior Hannity everything will be fine.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Ignorant old white dude comments.. 

Yeah Detox, my comments are so ignorant... You won't make an argument against any of it though. Flood the country with Muslims and they want you to assimilate to them (Sharia Law).

I'll take an ignorant old white dude over a young brown terrorist dude any day.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

Just found out MSNBC is cancelling Joy Reid. Since she is unemployed I guess she'll be joining ISIS.


Add Ronan Farrow to the list...better known as Rosemary's Baby.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


Yeah Detox, my comments are so ignorant... You won't make an argument against any of it though. Flood the country with Muslims and they want you to assimilate to them (Sharia Law).

I'll take an ignorant old white dude over a young brown terrorist dude any day.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:



Add Ronan Farrow to the list...better known as Rosemary's Baby.

Frank Sinatra's son ..........

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Frank Sinatra's son ..........



If Frank was still alive I Bet MSNBC wouldn't pull that $hit.

But then again, if Frank was around Ronan wouldn't be some pansy a$$ working at MSNBC.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


Substitute 'muslims' for 'blacks' and surely, your grandfather said the same thing. 

It should be pointed out that how many Americans have died on American soil due to terrorist attacks under Obama as compared to other recent Presidents?

I believe that may be called something like game, set, match. 

So technical Detox. It's still early yet, allow him to let the cancer spread. One major attack won that argument, you're so clever to point that out. If 911 would've occurred under Obama it would've been called "Workplace Violence" - it was a pair of office buildings. 

In actuality their haven't been any "terrorist" attacks under Obama. Ft Hood was "Workplace Violence." Boston Marathon was likely "Marathon Violence" or "Illegal Use of Fireworks". Terrorism is so 90's, we need to take a progressive view of all of this, like the blonde with the librarian glasses espouses, Harf I believe her name is, just happens to rhyme with barf.

When was the last time black people starting cutting off Christians heads? Very poor comparison, the black people should be offended. My grandfather was an Italian immigrant that came with nothing and built something without a handout.


 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

I believe that may be called something like game, set, match. 

..."game,set,match" was coined here on Covers by 69_Amazin_Mets ..glad to see some posters are starting to appreciate and acknowledge what he offered this Forum.. 

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