Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
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LEST we forget ...
April 19
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
"I made early withdrawal possible by already pulling much of our billions of dollars of equipment out and, more importantly, reducing our military presence to less than 2,000 troops from the 16,000 level that was there"
(NOTE: thus leaving virtually the entire defense against the Taliban to the Afghan military of nearly 300,000 trained troops)
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
"I made early withdrawal possible by already pulling much of our billions of dollars of equipment out and, more importantly, reducing our military presence to less than 2,000 troops from the 16,000 level that was there"
(NOTE: thus leaving virtually the entire defense against the Taliban to the Afghan military of nearly 300,000 trained troops)
Oddly, Trump blames Biden for Afghan withdrawal that he previously brags about. Trump's security advisor McMaster agrees that Trump would have done essentially the same thing as Biden. Sanford historian Crews say taliban deal is a blueprint for surrender. Recently, GOP has deleted web page about taliban deal that Trump is so proud of.
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Oddly, Trump blames Biden for Afghan withdrawal that he previously brags about. Trump's security advisor McMaster agrees that Trump would have done essentially the same thing as Biden. Sanford historian Crews say taliban deal is a blueprint for surrender. Recently, GOP has deleted web page about taliban deal that Trump is so proud of.
On July 8, Biden discussed the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, swatting back concerns that a Taliban takeover of the country would be "inevitable." The president explicitly said that Americans would not see images reminiscent of the U.S. evacuation from Vietnam at the end of that war in 1975—when photos of helicopters evacuating people from the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon were widely circulated in the media.
"The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan.
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On July 8, Biden discussed the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, swatting back concerns that a Taliban takeover of the country would be "inevitable." The president explicitly said that Americans would not see images reminiscent of the U.S. evacuation from Vietnam at the end of that war in 1975—when photos of helicopters evacuating people from the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon were widely circulated in the media.
"The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan.
There was never a question of withdrawal, it is the complete clusterfuck of a job in withdrawing is what is so dumbfounding.... you guys are missing the point completely here as you just want to bitch about partisan this and partisan that. Blame this and blame that.
There is absolutely NO accountability from anyone for what will go down in the history books as an epic blunder.
America First
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There was never a question of withdrawal, it is the complete clusterfuck of a job in withdrawing is what is so dumbfounding.... you guys are missing the point completely here as you just want to bitch about partisan this and partisan that. Blame this and blame that.
There is absolutely NO accountability from anyone for what will go down in the history books as an epic blunder.
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
yep rump supported this and was going to do the same thing himself
fact
of course we should have never been occupying the country in the first place
that falls on the republicans too epic blunder by them
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
LEST we forget ...
April 19
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
yep rump supported this and was going to do the same thing himself
fact
of course we should have never been occupying the country in the first place
that falls on the republicans too epic blunder by them
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
yep rump supported this and was going to do the same thing himself
fact
of course we should have never been occupying the country in the first place
that falls on the republicans too epic blunder by them
Correct. Republicans can't rewrite history. It was their EPIC BLUNDER that started all this, although it is funny how the arsonists are quick to blame the firefighters.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
LEST we forget ...
April 19
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
yep rump supported this and was going to do the same thing himself
fact
of course we should have never been occupying the country in the first place
that falls on the republicans too epic blunder by them
Correct. Republicans can't rewrite history. It was their EPIC BLUNDER that started all this, although it is funny how the arsonists are quick to blame the firefighters.
There was never a question of withdrawal, it is the complete clusterfuck of a job in withdrawing is what is so dumbfounding.... you guys are missing the point completely here as you just want to bitch about partisan this and partisan that. Blame this and blame that. There is absolutely NO accountability from anyone for what will go down in the history books as an epic blunder.
Any coincidence that Biden scheduled this to be done while he was "on vacation"? What, does he think it'll all blow over by the time he gets back?
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Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
There was never a question of withdrawal, it is the complete clusterfuck of a job in withdrawing is what is so dumbfounding.... you guys are missing the point completely here as you just want to bitch about partisan this and partisan that. Blame this and blame that. There is absolutely NO accountability from anyone for what will go down in the history books as an epic blunder.
Any coincidence that Biden scheduled this to be done while he was "on vacation"? What, does he think it'll all blow over by the time he gets back?
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
one of the very few things rump said that was a good thing
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
LEST we forget ...
April 19
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
one of the very few things rump said that was a good thing
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
analysts including generals who were there r saying the same thing would have happened if rump had not been kicked out out of the white house
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
LEST we forget ...
April 19
Washington (CNN) Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan. Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31)
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.
"First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
analysts including generals who were there r saying the same thing would have happened if rump had not been kicked out out of the white house
Guarantee that's what his brain trust was telling him. Press Sec Jen conveniently on vacation as well.... many of their own media left are going after them hard, as they should. AOC, Pelosi & the rest of the clan are in complete silence... and it is deafening
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Guarantee that's what his brain trust was telling him. Press Sec Jen conveniently on vacation as well.... many of their own media left are going after them hard, as they should. AOC, Pelosi & the rest of the clan are in complete silence... and it is deafening
LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
only real difference is that just like he did to the kurds rump wasnt going to evacuate any afghans who helped the us military there
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
only real difference is that just like he did to the kurds rump wasnt going to evacuate any afghans who helped the us military there
LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
only real difference is that just like he did to the kurds rump wasnt going to evacuate any afghans who helped the us military there
Precisely. trump was going to abandon ALL the Afghans who helped us.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE: It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said
only real difference is that just like he did to the kurds rump wasnt going to evacuate any afghans who helped the us military there
Precisely. trump was going to abandon ALL the Afghans who helped us.
He was in charge of the withdrawal... his epic embarrassing moment... one Obama official.... China gave Joe the election... Joe gave China Afghanistan... this guy spent more time on designing form fitting uniforms for the guys and gals in the service... more time on crr.... more time making sure of gender identity and cross gender transformation than the people fighting and protecting... he cares only for his own pocket, and own narrative... gates was right... Joe has been wrong on EVERY foreign policy.... this guy got to go before more innocent people suffer.
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He was in charge of the withdrawal... his epic embarrassing moment... one Obama official.... China gave Joe the election... Joe gave China Afghanistan... this guy spent more time on designing form fitting uniforms for the guys and gals in the service... more time on crr.... more time making sure of gender identity and cross gender transformation than the people fighting and protecting... he cares only for his own pocket, and own narrative... gates was right... Joe has been wrong on EVERY foreign policy.... this guy got to go before more innocent people suffer.
Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.
And it's a doozy.
First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.
In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::
Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy
Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.
And it's a doozy.
First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.
In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.
On July 8, Biden discussed the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, swatting back concerns that a Taliban takeover of the country would be "inevitable." The president explicitly said that Americans would not see images reminiscent of the U.S. evacuation from Vietnam at the end of that war in 1975—when photos of helicopters evacuating people from the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon were widely circulated in the media.
"The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan.
America First
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On July 8, Biden discussed the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, swatting back concerns that a Taliban takeover of the country would be "inevitable." The president explicitly said that Americans would not see images reminiscent of the U.S. evacuation from Vietnam at the end of that war in 1975—when photos of helicopters evacuating people from the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon were widely circulated in the media.
"The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan.
Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.
And it's a doozy.
First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.
In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.
cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::
In Trump's eyes, Baradar may have looked a bit like North Korea's Kim Jong Un, the leader he could try to sweet talk and coax, showering him with praise while extracting essentially nothing from him, while drawing attention to himself and his theatrical "boldness".
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::
Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy
Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.
And it's a doozy.
First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.
In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.
cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::
In Trump's eyes, Baradar may have looked a bit like North Korea's Kim Jong Un, the leader he could try to sweet talk and coax, showering him with praise while extracting essentially nothing from him, while drawing attention to himself and his theatrical "boldness".
Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.
And it's a doozy.
First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.
In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.
Well this should not be overlooked --- trump freed a political prisoner from Pakistan, and that same man is the current leader of the entire Taliban offensive against the Afghans.
Right. Take Hitler out of prison, negotiate a loser deal, then set him free. Nothing bad could come from that, right?!
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::
Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy
Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.
And it's a doozy.
First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.
In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.
Well this should not be overlooked --- trump freed a political prisoner from Pakistan, and that same man is the current leader of the entire Taliban offensive against the Afghans.
Right. Take Hitler out of prison, negotiate a loser deal, then set him free. Nothing bad could come from that, right?!
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