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    Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 6:40 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    That's what happens when every Tom, Dick, and Harry nut- job can carry guns.  It's not going to be the last incident. Violence begets more violence.


    I bet the next high school kid thinks twice when contemplates beating up some neighborhood watch dude.  an armed society is a polite one.  England, un armed, is a case it point.  a crime riddled police state now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    That's what happens when every Tom, Dick, and Harry nut- job can carry guns.  It's not going to be the last incident. Violence begets more violence.


    I bet the next high school kid thinks twice when contemplates beating up some neighborhood watch dude.  an armed society is a polite one.  England, un armed, is a case it point.  a crime riddled police state now.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 6:49 PM ET #27

    Since it was lightly raining...the grass would have been impressionable  ..and the crime scene was secured by the police in the police report ...the forensic Crime Scene Response Unit would have been able to determine who was were and who went where ..to a certain extent ..
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    Since it was lightly raining...the grass would have been impressionable  ..and the crime scene was secured by the police in the police report ...the forensic Crime Scene Response Unit would have been able to determine who was were and who went where ..to a certain extent ..
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:10 PM ET #28

    Phone call right before he was shot & killed....

    www.abcnews.go.com/trayvon-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-cucial-phone/story?id=15959017

     

    Seems clear that it was Zimmerman who created &/or provoked the entire incident which led to him gettin the shit kicked out himself & then killing an unarmed kid who belonged there & wasn't doing anything wrong in the 1st place -

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    Phone call right before he was shot & killed....

    www.abcnews.go.com/trayvon-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-cucial-phone/story?id=15959017

     

    Seems clear that it was Zimmerman who created &/or provoked the entire incident which led to him gettin the shit kicked out himself & then killing an unarmed kid who belonged there & wasn't doing anything wrong in the 1st place -

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:11 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by drJ:


    I bet the next high school kid thinks twice when contemplates beating up some neighborhood watch dude.  an armed society is a polite one.  England, un armed, is a case it point.  a crime riddled police state now.




    notice how you left off Canada with your logic?  You cant carry handguns and they have a pretty low crime rate over there
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    Quote Originally Posted by drJ:


    I bet the next high school kid thinks twice when contemplates beating up some neighborhood watch dude.  an armed society is a polite one.  England, un armed, is a case it point.  a crime riddled police state now.




    notice how you left off Canada with your logic?  You cant carry handguns and they have a pretty low crime rate over there
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:40 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:



    notice how you left off Canada with your logic?  You cant carry handguns and they have a pretty low crime rate over there

    No the crime rate is high 
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    notice how you left off Canada with your logic?  You cant carry handguns and they have a pretty low crime rate over there

    No the crime rate is high 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:43 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:



    notice how you left off Canada with your logic?  You cant carry handguns and they have a pretty low crime rate over there
    Criminals are well armed up here they forgot to register their firearms.
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    notice how you left off Canada with your logic?  You cant carry handguns and they have a pretty low crime rate over there
    Criminals are well armed up here they forgot to register their firearms.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:43 PM ET #32

    Canada is a polite society for now.  It will change as its crime rate and freeloader percentage is altered.  1 of every 5 kids in england will never work a day in their lives.  classified as NEET,  non educable, non employable, non trainable.

    we will be at that level soon enough here.  canada is known for politeness, work ethic, and a general societorial consciousness.   as groups flow in and bring rudeness, laziness and no social consciousness beyond their own selfishness you'll find canada will either go down the toilet or push back.
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    Canada is a polite society for now.  It will change as its crime rate and freeloader percentage is altered.  1 of every 5 kids in england will never work a day in their lives.  classified as NEET,  non educable, non employable, non trainable.

    we will be at that level soon enough here.  canada is known for politeness, work ethic, and a general societorial consciousness.   as groups flow in and bring rudeness, laziness and no social consciousness beyond their own selfishness you'll find canada will either go down the toilet or push back.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 8:20 PM ET #33

    Uh-oh:

    Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.

    Trayvon was asked if the jewelry, which was mostly women’s rings and earrings, belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

    “Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.


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    Looks like the innocent teen was just another garden variety thug.


    I'm shocked by this development.


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    Uh-oh:

    Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.

    Trayvon was asked if the jewelry, which was mostly women’s rings and earrings, belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

    “Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.


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    Looks like the innocent teen was just another garden variety thug.


    I'm shocked by this development.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 8:33 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by drJ:


    I bet the next high school kid thinks twice when contemplates beating up some neighborhood watch dude.  an armed society is a polite one.  England, un armed, is a case it point.  a crime riddled police state now.




    I agree with you 100%

    Armed
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    Accountable

    meaning that if you murder someone you should face the consequences like a man
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    Quote Originally Posted by drJ:


    I bet the next high school kid thinks twice when contemplates beating up some neighborhood watch dude.  an armed society is a polite one.  England, un armed, is a case it point.  a crime riddled police state now.




    I agree with you 100%

    Armed
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    meaning that if you murder someone you should face the consequences like a man
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 9:33 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    The dude was suspended from school for drug possession this year, so at the very least he wasn't some ultra clean kid as he was portrayed. And he was 6'3, so what's up with the circulating pictures making him look 13.

    Let's focus on 2 black teenagers setting one white teenager on fire.
    And three blacks youths murdering one white youth. Or is that just all too common.

     

    Oh, he had weed at school. Then he definately was a hoodlum who needed shootin. Ye-hawww.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    The dude was suspended from school for drug possession this year, so at the very least he wasn't some ultra clean kid as he was portrayed. And he was 6'3, so what's up with the circulating pictures making him look 13.

    Let's focus on 2 black teenagers setting one white teenager on fire.
    And three blacks youths murdering one white youth. Or is that just all too common.

     

    Oh, he had weed at school. Then he definately was a hoodlum who needed shootin. Ye-hawww.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 9:38 PM ET #36

    You fucked up righties amaze me. The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him and eventually shot him.

     

    How does one defend this? I'm a lefty and all for gun ownership. I own dozens of guns. but I can't excuse a guy disobeying the Cops, and because of that, having to shoot someone. If he woulda left the kid alone when the police told him too..........?

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    You fucked up righties amaze me. The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him and eventually shot him.

     

    How does one defend this? I'm a lefty and all for gun ownership. I own dozens of guns. but I can't excuse a guy disobeying the Cops, and because of that, having to shoot someone. If he woulda left the kid alone when the police told him too..........?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Since it was lightly raining...the grass would have been impressionable  ..and the crime scene was secured by the police in the police report ...the forensic Crime Scene Response Unit would have been able to determine who was were and who went where ..to a certain extent ..


    CSI Sanford-Orlando -

    Did the gunman have his clothes tested for the victim's DNA?

    What kind of blood spatter was in the area and/or the gunman?

    Was the splatter consistent with the gunman's narrative of the sequence of events?

    What evidence was taken of the gunman's injuries?

    Was the gunman under the influence of drugs or alcohol?

    Were their blood tests taken of the gunman?

    How close was the gunman to the victim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Since it was lightly raining...the grass would have been impressionable  ..and the crime scene was secured by the police in the police report ...the forensic Crime Scene Response Unit would have been able to determine who was were and who went where ..to a certain extent ..


    CSI Sanford-Orlando -

    Did the gunman have his clothes tested for the victim's DNA?

    What kind of blood spatter was in the area and/or the gunman?

    Was the splatter consistent with the gunman's narrative of the sequence of events?

    What evidence was taken of the gunman's injuries?

    Was the gunman under the influence of drugs or alcohol?

    Were their blood tests taken of the gunman?

    How close was the gunman to the victim?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2012 - 4:49 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by kaplan:

     

    Oh, he had weed at school. Then he definately was a hoodlum who needed shootin. Ye-hawww.



    Who said he "deserved" to get shot, moran?

    He deserved to be arrested for the MJ possession.
    He deserved to be arrested for assaulting Zimmerman.
    He deserved to be arrested for the stolen jewelery in his backpack.
    He was suspended from school three times.

    He stole the Skittles.
    He's a punk and a scumbag.

    When you're a punk looking for trouble, sometimes you find it. Bang bang, he's dead. End of story.

    The media and obama jumped to conclusions AGAIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaplan:

     

    Oh, he had weed at school. Then he definately was a hoodlum who needed shootin. Ye-hawww.



    Who said he "deserved" to get shot, moran?

    He deserved to be arrested for the MJ possession.
    He deserved to be arrested for assaulting Zimmerman.
    He deserved to be arrested for the stolen jewelery in his backpack.
    He was suspended from school three times.

    He stole the Skittles.
    He's a punk and a scumbag.

    When you're a punk looking for trouble, sometimes you find it. Bang bang, he's dead. End of story.

    The media and obama jumped to conclusions AGAIN.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2012 - 8:41 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by kaplan:

    You fucked up righties amaze me. The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him and eventually shot him.

    How does one defend this? I'm a lefty and all for gun ownership. I own dozens of guns. but I can't excuse a guy disobeying the Cops, and because of that, having to shoot someone. If he woulda left the kid alone when the police told him too..........?

    Um, what you think happened (Zimmerman followed him and just shot him) is not what happened.

    You are not that familiar with the statements and what the witnesses have said.

    You should try and become more familiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaplan:

    You fucked up righties amaze me. The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him and eventually shot him.

    How does one defend this? I'm a lefty and all for gun ownership. I own dozens of guns. but I can't excuse a guy disobeying the Cops, and because of that, having to shoot someone. If he woulda left the kid alone when the police told him too..........?

    Um, what you think happened (Zimmerman followed him and just shot him) is not what happened.

    You are not that familiar with the statements and what the witnesses have said.

    You should try and become more familiar.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2012 - 8:43 AM ET #40

    The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him

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    Actually, a 9-11 dispatcher said that. Not "the police"

    Additionally, Zimmerman said he was getting into his vehicle when he was attacked. So your assertion that he was "following" Martin after being told not to, is based on supposition and really has no evidence to support it.

    But of course you goofy leftists just lie like there is no tomorrow in order to justify your silly political beliefs.

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    The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him

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    Actually, a 9-11 dispatcher said that. Not "the police"

    Additionally, Zimmerman said he was getting into his vehicle when he was attacked. So your assertion that he was "following" Martin after being told not to, is based on supposition and really has no evidence to support it.

    But of course you goofy leftists just lie like there is no tomorrow in order to justify your silly political beliefs.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him

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    Actually, a 9-11 dispatcher said that. Not "the police"

    Additionally, Zimmerman said he was getting into his vehicle when he was attacked. So your assertion that he was "following" Martin after being told not to, is based on supposition and really has no evidence to support it.

    But of course you goofy leftists just lie like there is no tomorrow in order to justify your silly political beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him

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    Actually, a 9-11 dispatcher said that. Not "the police"

    Additionally, Zimmerman said he was getting into his vehicle when he was attacked. So your assertion that he was "following" Martin after being told not to, is based on supposition and really has no evidence to support it.

    But of course you goofy leftists just lie like there is no tomorrow in order to justify your silly political beliefs.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2012 - 11:24 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    It was always reported that he was 17 and he did have business in the neighborhood.  He was staying with his dad and went to buy skittles.

    We didn't know that he was suspended for pot, but so what, it's totally irrelevant.

    All that's relevant is what transpired that night.  It doesn't sound like there is any really complete definitive eyewitness so Zimmerman can finesse his story to fit his narrative.


    The media reported he was 17 then proceeded to show pics of him when he was 12. if you didn't see the intent the media was trying to stirr up then your pretty dense.
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    It was always reported that he was 17 and he did have business in the neighborhood.  He was staying with his dad and went to buy skittles.

    We didn't know that he was suspended for pot, but so what, it's totally irrelevant.

    All that's relevant is what transpired that night.  It doesn't sound like there is any really complete definitive eyewitness so Zimmerman can finesse his story to fit his narrative.


    The media reported he was 17 then proceeded to show pics of him when he was 12. if you didn't see the intent the media was trying to stirr up then your pretty dense.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by D_Unit:



    The media reported he was 17 then proceeded to show pics of him when he was 12. if you didn't see the intent the media was trying to stirr up then your pretty dense.


    My guess is they showed the pictures they were given.  It's not like he was a public figure who had hundreds of pictures out there from which they could pluck.  Not really sure what difference it makes.
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    The media reported he was 17 then proceeded to show pics of him when he was 12. if you didn't see the intent the media was trying to stirr up then your pretty dense.


    My guess is they showed the pictures they were given.  It's not like he was a public figure who had hundreds of pictures out there from which they could pluck.  Not really sure what difference it makes.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    My guess is they showed the pictures they were given.  It's not like he was a public figure who had hundreds of pictures out there from which they could pluck.  Not really sure what difference it makes.
    You don't see the writting on the wall? The media only shows what will keep the shit stirred up. Racism is their game and they love to keep it going. If a black guy had killed the punk, we would have never heard about it.
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    My guess is they showed the pictures they were given.  It's not like he was a public figure who had hundreds of pictures out there from which they could pluck.  Not really sure what difference it makes.
    You don't see the writting on the wall? The media only shows what will keep the shit stirred up. Racism is their game and they love to keep it going. If a black guy had killed the punk, we would have never heard about it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Uh-oh:

    Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.

    Trayvon was asked if the jewelry, which was mostly women’s rings and earrings, belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

    “Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.


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    Looks like the innocent teen was just another garden variety thug.


    I'm shocked by this development.


    How did they ask a dead kid what was in his backpack?

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    Uh-oh:

    Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.

    Trayvon was asked if the jewelry, which was mostly women’s rings and earrings, belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

    “Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.


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    Looks like the innocent teen was just another garden variety thug.


    I'm shocked by this development.


    How did they ask a dead kid what was in his backpack?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2012 - 1:46 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    My guess is they showed the pictures they were given.  It's not like he was a public figure who had hundreds of pictures out there from which they could pluck.  Not really sure what difference it makes.


    media bias

    it takes a few minutes of good investigative journalism to find out this kids twitter and facebook handle

    but that wasnt the narrative that was portrayed here

    in chicago on ST patricks day weekend, 40 people were gunned down. no major news story there right??

    again, we dont know the facts of this case but i think this one will end up almost as bad as Tawana Brawley did for Rev Al back when i was younger
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    My guess is they showed the pictures they were given.  It's not like he was a public figure who had hundreds of pictures out there from which they could pluck.  Not really sure what difference it makes.


    media bias

    it takes a few minutes of good investigative journalism to find out this kids twitter and facebook handle

    but that wasnt the narrative that was portrayed here

    in chicago on ST patricks day weekend, 40 people were gunned down. no major news story there right??

    again, we dont know the facts of this case but i think this one will end up almost as bad as Tawana Brawley did for Rev Al back when i was younger
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him

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    Actually, a 9-11 dispatcher said that. Not "the police"

    Additionally, Zimmerman said he was getting into his vehicle when he was attacked. So your assertion that he was "following" Martin after being told not to, is based on supposition and really has no evidence to support it.

    But of course you goofy leftists just lie like there is no tomorrow in order to justify your silly political beliefs.



    as much as i hate to agree with 14daroad and i haven't heard the 911 tape, i'm not taking safety advice from some 911 operator sitting in a call room doing her nails and watching the clock for her next 15 minute break nor am i legally obligated to.
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    The Police told Zimmerman "don not follow him, we don't need you to do that". He chose to follow him

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    Actually, a 9-11 dispatcher said that. Not "the police"

    Additionally, Zimmerman said he was getting into his vehicle when he was attacked. So your assertion that he was "following" Martin after being told not to, is based on supposition and really has no evidence to support it.

    But of course you goofy leftists just lie like there is no tomorrow in order to justify your silly political beliefs.



    as much as i hate to agree with 14daroad and i haven't heard the 911 tape, i'm not taking safety advice from some 911 operator sitting in a call room doing her nails and watching the clock for her next 15 minute break nor am i legally obligated to.
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