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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:29 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by atlantasports:

    Balt +7
     
    they will either win by 3 or lose by 3

    i preffer they lose by 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantasports:

    Balt +7
     
    they will either win by 3 or lose by 3

    i preffer they lose by 3

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:39 AM ET #27

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 8:00 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

     Do you think that the Colts dynasty is over?
     
    No. Peyton is uncool, but his stardom has made him cool. Horseshoes it is.

    Sorry but I couldnt let this pass - dynasty?  Excuse me, 1 title in 9 years is NOWHERE NEAR a dynasty.  I guess you think the Braves were in baseball also, and the St. Louis Browns in '44.  Come on kids get some perspective here, too much ESPN is bad for the brain. This is what happens, we see comments like this.

    Dynasties are teams that have sustained excellence - as in championships - over a sustained period of time 4 years minimum, with largely the same group of guys.  The only thing close to that since the early '90's Cowboys are the Patriots, and they weren't in the class of any of the great teams.  They weren't as dominant.  But 3 rings in 4 years in this day and age is pretty impressive anyone must admit, its a shame we have learned they are tainted titles due to belichick' unethical shenanigans.  That Oakland snow game, take that away and they may not have won any.  And they were real lucky to beat Carolina.  Anyway.  90's Cowboys, as much as I dislike them, were a great team, again 3 rngs in 4 years.  And they were dominant at times, and din't cheat.  Then of course the last great dynasty was the '70's Steelers - same guys,6 years and 4 rings, nearly 5.  The Packers in the '60's, same guys, 5 titles in 7 years.  50's Browns, etc.  Celtics in the '50's and '60's - 11 rings in 13 years. Yankees had several strectes of dominance '40's thru '60's. Montreal Canadiens. These are dynasties.  Even the '90's Steelers were better than these Colts, much more balanced, six division titles and a bowl appearance in '95 losing to Dallas in XXX. (I'd mention Pitt beat the Colts to get there but Manning was still getting spoiled and losing big games at UT.)  Wow, that was a first for me, the Colts a dynasty. 

    Peyton is the most overrated player in football.  Again, too much Jaworski can really make you crazy.   I'll take Roethlisberger any day of the week.  He is more mobile, bigger, stronger, has a cannon arm, is a great decision maker, and he can handle pressure - unlike Manning.  Steelers rattled him hard in the '05 divisional playoffs, several sacks and he was scared when he wasn't on his tail.   The trick is getitng to him since he's had such a good line, but when you do, he's toast like anyone else and can't make plays like Ben. Heck I'd take Eli over Peyton.

    I am taking muy huge cash on Florida, Penn St. OK State, Boise St. and Notre Dame and putting a small 1 or 2 unit play on Baltimore here.  Their defense should be able to handle the colts, even without Rolle.  They should be bale to run and control the clock, missing mason hurts but can be manageable.  Freeney is not helathy.  Nor ios their no.2 receiver. Almost forgot, the Colts are missing their MVP - Mr. Sanders.  They are such a different team without that guy, a true stud.  Also taking Bears for several units, at least 4, and Miami.  Probably Philly.  Leaning Jax and Skins as well.  I suggest never do more than 5 plays. Avoid teasers and parlays whenever possible, your book will simply adore you. GLTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

     Do you think that the Colts dynasty is over?
     
    No. Peyton is uncool, but his stardom has made him cool. Horseshoes it is.

    Sorry but I couldnt let this pass - dynasty?  Excuse me, 1 title in 9 years is NOWHERE NEAR a dynasty.  I guess you think the Braves were in baseball also, and the St. Louis Browns in '44.  Come on kids get some perspective here, too much ESPN is bad for the brain. This is what happens, we see comments like this.

    Dynasties are teams that have sustained excellence - as in championships - over a sustained period of time 4 years minimum, with largely the same group of guys.  The only thing close to that since the early '90's Cowboys are the Patriots, and they weren't in the class of any of the great teams.  They weren't as dominant.  But 3 rings in 4 years in this day and age is pretty impressive anyone must admit, its a shame we have learned they are tainted titles due to belichick' unethical shenanigans.  That Oakland snow game, take that away and they may not have won any.  And they were real lucky to beat Carolina.  Anyway.  90's Cowboys, as much as I dislike them, were a great team, again 3 rngs in 4 years.  And they were dominant at times, and din't cheat.  Then of course the last great dynasty was the '70's Steelers - same guys,6 years and 4 rings, nearly 5.  The Packers in the '60's, same guys, 5 titles in 7 years.  50's Browns, etc.  Celtics in the '50's and '60's - 11 rings in 13 years. Yankees had several strectes of dominance '40's thru '60's. Montreal Canadiens. These are dynasties.  Even the '90's Steelers were better than these Colts, much more balanced, six division titles and a bowl appearance in '95 losing to Dallas in XXX. (I'd mention Pitt beat the Colts to get there but Manning was still getting spoiled and losing big games at UT.)  Wow, that was a first for me, the Colts a dynasty. 

    Peyton is the most overrated player in football.  Again, too much Jaworski can really make you crazy.   I'll take Roethlisberger any day of the week.  He is more mobile, bigger, stronger, has a cannon arm, is a great decision maker, and he can handle pressure - unlike Manning.  Steelers rattled him hard in the '05 divisional playoffs, several sacks and he was scared when he wasn't on his tail.   The trick is getitng to him since he's had such a good line, but when you do, he's toast like anyone else and can't make plays like Ben. Heck I'd take Eli over Peyton.

    I am taking muy huge cash on Florida, Penn St. OK State, Boise St. and Notre Dame and putting a small 1 or 2 unit play on Baltimore here.  Their defense should be able to handle the colts, even without Rolle.  They should be bale to run and control the clock, missing mason hurts but can be manageable.  Freeney is not helathy.  Nor ios their no.2 receiver. Almost forgot, the Colts are missing their MVP - Mr. Sanders.  They are such a different team without that guy, a true stud.  Also taking Bears for several units, at least 4, and Miami.  Probably Philly.  Leaning Jax and Skins as well.  I suggest never do more than 5 plays. Avoid teasers and parlays whenever possible, your book will simply adore you. GLTA.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 9:26 AM ET #29

    Ravens vs. Colts -3.5 (2 units)
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    Ravens vs. Colts -3.5 (2 units)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 10:09 AM ET #30

    Indianapolis
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    Indianapolis
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 11:08 AM ET #31

    BALTIMORE
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    BALTIMORE
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 11:19 AM ET #32

    Balt 2 wins against
     
     
    BENGALS
     
    BROWNS
     
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    Balt 2 wins against
     
     
    BENGALS
     
    BROWNS
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 11:37 AM ET #33

    Against Baltimore's scary D last year Peyton and the Colts put up 44.  Highest point total of the season.  On the road, in December. 
    Baltimore's D looks great because of the help from the competition.  First two games against the hapless Bengals & Browns, and a Tennessee team & their backup QB.  By the way, Baltimore had a 10-3 lead going into the 4th.  If Kerry Collins can pull out a win against that D, what's Peyton going to do?
     
    Peyton having to outplay Flacco and LeRon McLain by 3.5 at home?  I'm in.
     
    Colts -3.5
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    Against Baltimore's scary D last year Peyton and the Colts put up 44.  Highest point total of the season.  On the road, in December. 
    Baltimore's D looks great because of the help from the competition.  First two games against the hapless Bengals & Browns, and a Tennessee team & their backup QB.  By the way, Baltimore had a 10-3 lead going into the 4th.  If Kerry Collins can pull out a win against that D, what's Peyton going to do?
     
    Peyton having to outplay Flacco and LeRon McLain by 3.5 at home?  I'm in.
     
    Colts -3.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 11:47 AM ET #34

    BLT +4
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    BLT +4
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 11:52 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Firing_bullets:

     

    Well I feel better now. Cause Oklahoma sure was a good pick. Your garbage picks are on fade, keep picking them and i'll keep picking against you.

    ov 90% of wiseguys were on TEX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firing_bullets:

     

    Well I feel better now. Cause Oklahoma sure was a good pick. Your garbage picks are on fade, keep picking them and i'll keep picking against you.

    ov 90% of wiseguys were on TEX.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 11:57 AM ET #36

    im taking the under on this one.  there should be a lot of running so hopefully itll keep it low.
     
    under 38.5
     
    GL everyone
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    im taking the under on this one.  there should be a lot of running so hopefully itll keep it low.
     
    under 38.5
     
    GL everyone
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 11:58 AM ET #37

    Baltimore +4 (-115)

    This is my stretch play of the week, as I feel like Indy should really have a breakout game as some point this season, but the numbers don't lie.  The Ravens are averaging over 150 yards per game on the ground, the Colts are hands down the worst rushing defense in the league, giving up 188 per game.  Peyton isn't the same, Marvin has lost a step, Addai is nowhere to be found, and the defense wears down.  Their two wins were kindly handed to them by the Vikings and Texans late in the game.  I'll ride this one as a field goal game.

    Prediction:  Colts  19  Ravens  16
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    Baltimore +4 (-115)

    This is my stretch play of the week, as I feel like Indy should really have a breakout game as some point this season, but the numbers don't lie.  The Ravens are averaging over 150 yards per game on the ground, the Colts are hands down the worst rushing defense in the league, giving up 188 per game.  Peyton isn't the same, Marvin has lost a step, Addai is nowhere to be found, and the defense wears down.  Their two wins were kindly handed to them by the Vikings and Texans late in the game.  I'll ride this one as a field goal game.

    Prediction:  Colts  19  Ravens  16
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:00 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

     Do you think that the Colts dynasty is over?
     
    No. Peyton is uncool, but his stardom has made him cool. Horseshoes it is.
    It will never be ov until Petton is gone{the best]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

     Do you think that the Colts dynasty is over?
     
    No. Peyton is uncool, but his stardom has made him cool. Horseshoes it is.
    It will never be ov until Petton is gone{the best]
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:12 PM ET #39

    last week proved that the colts find some magical way to come out on top, they should of lost last week, they were down 15 - 0 to baltimore.
    the team finds a way to win the game
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    last week proved that the colts find some magical way to come out on top, they should of lost last week, they were down 15 - 0 to baltimore.
    the team finds a way to win the game
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 2:11 PM ET #40

    Normally i wouldn't care at all this early but Balt can not do a thing.  It looks like I was way off on this game, fortunately like I said it was a small play.  Rookie quarterbacks are just not good plays....still had a good time with that colt "dynasty" comment.  What's next in the forum, the Buccaneers "dynasty" for their 1 supe win?  Hilarious.  GL all....
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    Normally i wouldn't care at all this early but Balt can not do a thing.  It looks like I was way off on this game, fortunately like I said it was a small play.  Rookie quarterbacks are just not good plays....still had a good time with that colt "dynasty" comment.  What's next in the forum, the Buccaneers "dynasty" for their 1 supe win?  Hilarious.  GL all....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 2:32 PM ET #41

    I was extremely wrong on this one- at least for the first half but this is going to be a blowout.
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    I was extremely wrong on this one- at least for the first half but this is going to be a blowout.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 4:12 PM ET #42

    I answered my questions from ealier wrong.
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    I answered my questions from ealier wrong.
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