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    Chicago at Detroit (10/05/2008)

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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2008 - 2:29 AM ET #1

    Away:  Chicago [2-1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Detroit [0-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ford Field

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Chicago:
    Passing: Kyle Orton (766)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (347)
    Receiving: Brandon Lloyd (249)

    Detroit:
    Passing: Jon Kitna (684)
    Rushing: Kevin Smith (102)
    Receiving: Calvin Johnson (276)

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    Away:  Chicago [2-1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Detroit [0-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ford Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Chicago:
    Passing: Kyle Orton (766)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (347)
    Receiving: Brandon Lloyd (249)

    Detroit:
    Passing: Jon Kitna (684)
    Rushing: Kevin Smith (102)
    Receiving: Calvin Johnson (276)

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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2008 - 10:32 AM ET #2

    Lions for me in this one. They just have the bears number for whatever reason. I don't want to know how they do it. It's just a matter of fact. First of all the Bears shouldn't be favored coming into the dome as they play outside and on natural grass. With the Lions having the bye week, they are suddenly healthy with absolutely no injuries. Matt Millen is gone, and because of that Rod Marinelli is coaching to save his career and lifestyle. But have no fear. The Lions are 8-0 ats as home dogs of 3 or more points when playing against an opponent with a less than .600 record. Then if that's not enough, they are 7-1 ats in game 4's and 7-0 home off non division straight up ats loss. Put them in a role of coming off double digit straight up and back to back straight up ats losses and they have a sterling 14-1 ats record the next game.
     
    Chicago is in a bad position to cover in this game. Their offense is horrible and they rarely throw the ball more than 15 yards down the field. I'll roll with the rested healthy home dog that has underacheived this year.
     
    Lions +4 
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    Lions for me in this one. They just have the bears number for whatever reason. I don't want to know how they do it. It's just a matter of fact. First of all the Bears shouldn't be favored coming into the dome as they play outside and on natural grass. With the Lions having the bye week, they are suddenly healthy with absolutely no injuries. Matt Millen is gone, and because of that Rod Marinelli is coaching to save his career and lifestyle. But have no fear. The Lions are 8-0 ats as home dogs of 3 or more points when playing against an opponent with a less than .600 record. Then if that's not enough, they are 7-1 ats in game 4's and 7-0 home off non division straight up ats loss. Put them in a role of coming off double digit straight up and back to back straight up ats losses and they have a sterling 14-1 ats record the next game.
     
    Chicago is in a bad position to cover in this game. Their offense is horrible and they rarely throw the ball more than 15 yards down the field. I'll roll with the rested healthy home dog that has underacheived this year.
     
    Lions +4 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2008 - 1:32 PM ET #3

    Great post Watch . The Bears are my favorite team, and I know them very well. I can tell you a great majority of my "homer" friends are going to pound the Bears. "You'd be crazy not to right?" Well i can tell you that Lions have our number, and that place will be going crazy with Millen gone and the bye week. I never bet against the Bears, so this is probably a no play for me. Forget what they did to the Iggles, take the Lions to the bank
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    Great post Watch . The Bears are my favorite team, and I know them very well. I can tell you a great majority of my "homer" friends are going to pound the Bears. "You'd be crazy not to right?" Well i can tell you that Lions have our number, and that place will be going crazy with Millen gone and the bye week. I never bet against the Bears, so this is probably a no play for me. Forget what they did to the Iggles, take the Lions to the bank
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2008 - 3:31 PM ET #4

    This spread seems like 'one point too many' for the Bears to cover.  I wasn't sure  before, but now I'm convinced.  Great analysis, Watch. 

    Lions (+3.5)
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    This spread seems like 'one point too many' for the Bears to cover.  I wasn't sure  before, but now I'm convinced.  Great analysis, Watch. 

    Lions (+3.5)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2008 - 3:34 PM ET #5

    Should have gotten the line when it was at -3, but I'm on the Bears -3.5.
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    Should have gotten the line when it was at -3, but I'm on the Bears -3.5.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2008 - 5:46 PM ET #6

    Want the bears...but i think the lions receivers are gonna run circles around the bears secondary. It was banged up by the end of sunday night. The lions big physical receivers are gonna have their way.

    lions +3.5
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    Want the bears...but i think the lions receivers are gonna run circles around the bears secondary. It was banged up by the end of sunday night. The lions big physical receivers are gonna have their way.

    lions +3.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2008 - 2:56 PM ET #7

    bears
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    bears
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2008 - 3:48 PM ET #8

    Detroit - 24                          Chicago - 20
    Lions +3.5                 under 44.5
    Adding to watch's stats Lions are 4-0 off bye week last 4.
    Bears as favorites get a
    Post Millen era begins with a win.
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    Detroit - 24                          Chicago - 20
    Lions +3.5                 under 44.5
    Adding to watch's stats Lions are 4-0 off bye week last 4.
    Bears as favorites get a
    Post Millen era begins with a win.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2008 - 4:24 PM ET #9

    There's a reason why this line is only 3 1/2 - the Bears always suck in the domes & the Lions are just "due". I predict it all comes down to a last minute field goal, but either way, that 1/2 point should help. Take the Lions
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    There's a reason why this line is only 3 1/2 - the Bears always suck in the domes & the Lions are just "due". I predict it all comes down to a last minute field goal, but either way, that 1/2 point should help. Take the Lions
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2008 - 6:48 PM ET #10

    The Lions will cover the 3.5. They can only win at home. The Bears have been playing way over their head.
     
    Lions +3.5 for Me. GL 
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    The Lions will cover the 3.5. They can only win at home. The Bears have been playing way over their head.
     
    Lions +3.5 for Me. GL 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2008 - 3:22 AM ET #11

    Kevin Smith out as starter, Rudi Johnson in.
     
     
    This Coaching staff of the Lions are coaching the last of their games.  Benching Smith is an absoulute joke, he has all the experience in the Zone Scheme the Lions are trying to run.
     
     
     
    The problem with the Lions is the D, but Marinelli doesn't want to admit that because he is a D guy, with his son-in-law as D Cord, and all the ex Bucs he signed in the off season.
     
     
     
    They have fallen behind 21-0, 21-0, & 21-3 in their 3 games this year.......is the problem really with the O?
     
     
     
     
    I expect Kitna to start not giving a fuck about what plays are called and try to get it into Roy and Calvin's hands.  They will start out trying to run the ball, but if they fall behind even 7-0, Kitna will throw up 50 pass attempts.
     
     
     
     
    Don't have a lean yet for this game, need to see more in this coming week.......but I am leaning the home dog in a divisional game.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    I will be back later in the week with more thoughts and a play. 
     
     
     
     
     
    GL Boys on your plays. 
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    Kevin Smith out as starter, Rudi Johnson in.
     
     
    This Coaching staff of the Lions are coaching the last of their games.  Benching Smith is an absoulute joke, he has all the experience in the Zone Scheme the Lions are trying to run.
     
     
     
    The problem with the Lions is the D, but Marinelli doesn't want to admit that because he is a D guy, with his son-in-law as D Cord, and all the ex Bucs he signed in the off season.
     
     
     
    They have fallen behind 21-0, 21-0, & 21-3 in their 3 games this year.......is the problem really with the O?
     
     
     
     
    I expect Kitna to start not giving a fuck about what plays are called and try to get it into Roy and Calvin's hands.  They will start out trying to run the ball, but if they fall behind even 7-0, Kitna will throw up 50 pass attempts.
     
     
     
     
    Don't have a lean yet for this game, need to see more in this coming week.......but I am leaning the home dog in a divisional game.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    I will be back later in the week with more thoughts and a play. 
     
     
     
     
     
    GL Boys on your plays. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2008 - 5:17 AM ET #12

    That should say "Don't have a play yet for this game......".
     
     
     
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    That should say "Don't have a play yet for this game......".
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2008 - 4:52 PM ET #13

    LIONS +3.5 Big Play For me this will be a winner!
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    LIONS +3.5 Big Play For me this will be a winner!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2008 - 5:29 PM ET #14

    Tommie Harris is suspended for this game.......that will give the Lions some running room.
     
     
     
    The OC for the Lions was on the radio today saying he is going to open things up......that means that either Williams and Johnson have over 150 Receiving Yds. each.......or Kitna throws 6 picks and gets pulled in the 3rd Quarter.
     
     
     
     
    With DT Harris being out, they will try to run with Johnson and Kevin Smith (if they let him get some touches this week).
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    Tommie Harris is suspended for this game.......that will give the Lions some running room.
     
     
     
    The OC for the Lions was on the radio today saying he is going to open things up......that means that either Williams and Johnson have over 150 Receiving Yds. each.......or Kitna throws 6 picks and gets pulled in the 3rd Quarter.
     
     
     
     
    With DT Harris being out, they will try to run with Johnson and Kevin Smith (if they let him get some touches this week).
     
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    Um hmm. Let me get my glasses.  The loss of Tommie Harris is huge for the Bears defense, and should not be overlooked. Marcus Harrison is a rookie. Don't know who he is? He's the guy who will replace the guy. He has to line up against Backus and Peterman. Backus is an 8 year vet with a beard and hella kids and bad breath and everything, and Peterman is a 4 year vet who still knows how to get to nightclubs on both sides of the border and is the Lions bouncer. Not good. I think draw plays will be the order of the day catching the rookie off guard (no pun intended). He's gonna look like this in the 1st quarter and like this after the game.
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    Um hmm. Let me get my glasses.  The loss of Tommie Harris is huge for the Bears defense, and should not be overlooked. Marcus Harrison is a rookie. Don't know who he is? He's the guy who will replace the guy. He has to line up against Backus and Peterman. Backus is an 8 year vet with a beard and hella kids and bad breath and everything, and Peterman is a 4 year vet who still knows how to get to nightclubs on both sides of the border and is the Lions bouncer. Not good. I think draw plays will be the order of the day catching the rookie off guard (no pun intended). He's gonna look like this in the 1st quarter and like this after the game.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2008 - 8:15 AM ET #16

    Some trends in favor of Detroit,
    -Detroit is 4-0 ATS past 4 games after a bye week
    -Underdog is 7-1 ATS in their last 8 meetings
     
     
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    Some trends in favor of Detroit,
    -Detroit is 4-0 ATS past 4 games after a bye week
    -Underdog is 7-1 ATS in their last 8 meetings
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2008 - 10:14 AM ET #17

    Tease the Lions to +10.5
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    Tease the Lions to +10.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2008 - 7:20 PM ET #18

    Chicago Bears -3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    Um hmm. Let me get my glasses.  The loss of Tommie Harris is huge for the Bears defense, and should not be overlooked. Marcus Harrison is a rookie. Don't know who he is? He's the guy who will replace the guy. He has to line up against Backus and Peterman. Backus is an 8 year vet with a beard and hella kids and bad breath and everything, and Peterman is a 4 year vet who still knows how to get to nightclubs on both sides of the border and is the Lions bouncer. Not good. I think draw plays will be the order of the day catching the rookie off guard (no pun intended). He's gonna look like this in the 1st quarter and like this after the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    Um hmm. Let me get my glasses.  The loss of Tommie Harris is huge for the Bears defense, and should not be overlooked. Marcus Harrison is a rookie. Don't know who he is? He's the guy who will replace the guy. He has to line up against Backus and Peterman. Backus is an 8 year vet with a beard and hella kids and bad breath and everything, and Peterman is a 4 year vet who still knows how to get to nightclubs on both sides of the border and is the Lions bouncer. Not good. I think draw plays will be the order of the day catching the rookie off guard (no pun intended). He's gonna look like this in the 1st quarter and like this after the game.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2008 - 9:31 AM ET #20

    The lions take the win this week,and get on track finally!
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    The lions take the win this week,and get on track finally!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2008 - 2:14 PM ET #21

    I have it 27 to 21  DA Bears
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    I have it 27 to 21  DA Bears
     
    CMJohnson1
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2008 - 5:48 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    Lions for me in this one. They just have the bears number for whatever reason. I don't want to know how they do it. It's just a matter of fact. First of all the Bears shouldn't be favored coming into the dome as they play outside and on natural grass. With the Lions having the bye week, they are suddenly healthy with absolutely no injuries. Matt Millen is gone, and because of that Rod Marinelli is coaching to save his career and lifestyle. But have no fear. The Lions are 8-0 ats as home dogs of 3 or more points when playing against an opponent with a less than .600 record. Then if that's not enough, they are 7-1 ats in game 4's and 7-0 home off non division straight up ats loss. Put them in a role of coming off double digit straight up and back to back straight up ats losses and they have a sterling 14-1 ats record the next game.
     
    Chicago is in a bad position to cover in this game. Their offense is horrible and they rarely throw the ball more than 15 yards down the field. I'll roll with the rested healthy home dog that has underacheived this year.
     
    Lions +4 

    ATS and SU both teams have won 5 out of the last 10.  Not sure how that equates the them "having their number"

    Lions are still a shit bum team with or without Matt Millen.  Their defense is horrible, and the Bears have shown the ability to at least move the ball on offense.  No Tommie Harris in the middle would normally hurt, except for the fact that the Lions will not take advantage of that.

    Prediction:   Bears  27   Lions  17

    Bears  -3.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    Lions for me in this one. They just have the bears number for whatever reason. I don't want to know how they do it. It's just a matter of fact. First of all the Bears shouldn't be favored coming into the dome as they play outside and on natural grass. With the Lions having the bye week, they are suddenly healthy with absolutely no injuries. Matt Millen is gone, and because of that Rod Marinelli is coaching to save his career and lifestyle. But have no fear. The Lions are 8-0 ats as home dogs of 3 or more points when playing against an opponent with a less than .600 record. Then if that's not enough, they are 7-1 ats in game 4's and 7-0 home off non division straight up ats loss. Put them in a role of coming off double digit straight up and back to back straight up ats losses and they have a sterling 14-1 ats record the next game.
     
    Chicago is in a bad position to cover in this game. Their offense is horrible and they rarely throw the ball more than 15 yards down the field. I'll roll with the rested healthy home dog that has underacheived this year.
     
    Lions +4 

    ATS and SU both teams have won 5 out of the last 10.  Not sure how that equates the them "having their number"

    Lions are still a shit bum team with or without Matt Millen.  Their defense is horrible, and the Bears have shown the ability to at least move the ball on offense.  No Tommie Harris in the middle would normally hurt, except for the fact that the Lions will not take advantage of that.

    Prediction:   Bears  27   Lions  17

    Bears  -3.5

     
    Clark3232
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2008 - 8:56 PM ET #23

    Shocked everyone is on the Lions, I am too.
    Lions +3.5
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    Shocked everyone is on the Lions, I am too.
    Lions +3.5
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    mkan20
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2008 - 11:21 PM ET #24

    from what ive seen with the lions so far this year, its hard for me to back them.  ill take the bears
     
    GL everyone
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    from what ive seen with the lions so far this year, its hard for me to back them.  ill take the bears
     
    GL everyone
     
     
    Blkshrt
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2008 - 11:47 PM ET #25

    Can't put my money on the Lions, they are awful. No play for me on this one.
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    Can't put my money on the Lions, they are awful. No play for me on this one.
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