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    Dallas at St. Louis (10/19/2008)

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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2008 - 12:43 PM ET #26

    The Cowboys have too many outside issues for me to place my money on them in this game. With so much turmoil, the psyche of the team is hard to guage. From Favre calling out Romo, to Adam Jones problems and T.O.'s grumlings about not getting the ball, or Greg Ellis questioning the direction of the team, I am cool on this game. Let me put my shades back on  
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    The Cowboys have too many outside issues for me to place my money on them in this game. With so much turmoil, the psyche of the team is hard to guage. From Favre calling out Romo, to Adam Jones problems and T.O.'s grumlings about not getting the ball, or Greg Ellis questioning the direction of the team, I am cool on this game. Let me put my shades back on  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2008 - 3:24 PM ET #27

    Steven Jackson might have a 150+ yard game eh? Steven Jackson has been a bright spot in all their losses. I think he will explode this game. I am not sure about Brad Johnson leading this team for four weeks. Actually, look for Bulger to pick on rookie corner back Mike Jenkins. Rams could have a field day with him sticking Holt.
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    Steven Jackson might have a 150+ yard game eh? Steven Jackson has been a bright spot in all their losses. I think he will explode this game. I am not sure about Brad Johnson leading this team for four weeks. Actually, look for Bulger to pick on rookie corner back Mike Jenkins. Rams could have a field day with him sticking Holt.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2008 - 3:26 PM ET #28

    And i forgot to mention in my post,
     
    remember,Not only is Adam Jones out indefinitly but Terrance Newmann is out to with an injury. The starting corners are really weak in Dallas, really weak.
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    And i forgot to mention in my post,
     
    remember,Not only is Adam Jones out indefinitly but Terrance Newmann is out to with an injury. The starting corners are really weak in Dallas, really weak.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2008 - 4:19 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I agree with you.... but you forgot Jackson is in a contract year.... Bulger is confident with new coach..... and that kid Avery is ripping it up....7 at home is a gift

      Haslett could  be guaranteed to be the Rams coach next season if they win six for him, and they are 1-0 and suddenly have things to exploit in this game. StL Post-Dispatch: "Haslett would get additional money in 2009 if the team goes 6-6 or better under his watch, according to two sources...Haslett also has talked to team management about wanting to renew the contracts of several assistant coaches to have them return in '09 if he does as well."

    Haslett and Al Saunders are extremely motivated professionals. They are freaks of the week!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I agree with you.... but you forgot Jackson is in a contract year.... Bulger is confident with new coach..... and that kid Avery is ripping it up....7 at home is a gift

      Haslett could  be guaranteed to be the Rams coach next season if they win six for him, and they are 1-0 and suddenly have things to exploit in this game. StL Post-Dispatch: "Haslett would get additional money in 2009 if the team goes 6-6 or better under his watch, according to two sources...Haslett also has talked to team management about wanting to renew the contracts of several assistant coaches to have them return in '09 if he does as well."

    Haslett and Al Saunders are extremely motivated professionals. They are freaks of the week!

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2008 - 4:26 PM ET #30

    Allright people - the only good offensive players (other than Barber & maybe Witten) are OUT!!!!!! - Romo - OUT!, Hurd - OUT!, F. Jones - OUT!, "Pacman" Jones (yes, I know he's on defense - bear with me people - - he is the big play return guy on special teams, though) - OUT! Who gives a Sh#$ about crybaby T.O. - has he been a factor this entire season with this "great" 4-2 "dynasty" that was the Superbowl favorite? - NO!! Who's gonna throw to him?? You really think the "Ageless Wonder" Brad Johnson, or {God forbid} Brooks Bollinger is gonna do half the job that Romo did?? I laugh in your general direction......

    The Rams (much like the Cincinnati "Bungles") do have a decent team - and no injuries?? And they're at home?? And they're getting 7 points?? I'm getting in on this one while it's still a touchdown and before the line goes waaaaaaaay down - Rams all the way.........

    I say Rams 31 - Dallas 24
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    Allright people - the only good offensive players (other than Barber & maybe Witten) are OUT!!!!!! - Romo - OUT!, Hurd - OUT!, F. Jones - OUT!, "Pacman" Jones (yes, I know he's on defense - bear with me people - - he is the big play return guy on special teams, though) - OUT! Who gives a Sh#$ about crybaby T.O. - has he been a factor this entire season with this "great" 4-2 "dynasty" that was the Superbowl favorite? - NO!! Who's gonna throw to him?? You really think the "Ageless Wonder" Brad Johnson, or {God forbid} Brooks Bollinger is gonna do half the job that Romo did?? I laugh in your general direction......

    The Rams (much like the Cincinnati "Bungles") do have a decent team - and no injuries?? And they're at home?? And they're getting 7 points?? I'm getting in on this one while it's still a touchdown and before the line goes waaaaaaaay down - Rams all the way.........

    I say Rams 31 - Dallas 24
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2008 - 4:52 PM ET #31

    Don't sleep on Brad Johnson though......... the guy can manage a game well.... If they play good defense Dallas could win this game....
     
    But I am definitly on the Rams + the points
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    Don't sleep on Brad Johnson though......... the guy can manage a game well.... If they play good defense Dallas could win this game....
     
    But I am definitly on the Rams + the points
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2008 - 12:25 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    Mountain Terps, I just noticed the Covers team erased Henry-Lilly's response to my inquiry, and for good reason. He called me the same name as he called atlantasports but he capitalized it. 


    You're right, I never saw Lilly's response, if I had, I probably would've stayed quiet, and kept taking your advice to the local book (which is what I plan to do after finishing this post). 

    As a Redskins fan, it's hard for me not to enjoy the pending implosion of the Cowboys, but I still think they get the cover here.  Even Brad Johnson should be able to find Roy Williams and TO and I don't trust the Ram offense to score more than 17 points two games in a row.  That means the much hated Cowboys only need 24 to cover.  I'll still be on Dallas (may the Redskins forgive me).

    Keep the shades on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    Mountain Terps, I just noticed the Covers team erased Henry-Lilly's response to my inquiry, and for good reason. He called me the same name as he called atlantasports but he capitalized it. 


    You're right, I never saw Lilly's response, if I had, I probably would've stayed quiet, and kept taking your advice to the local book (which is what I plan to do after finishing this post). 

    As a Redskins fan, it's hard for me not to enjoy the pending implosion of the Cowboys, but I still think they get the cover here.  Even Brad Johnson should be able to find Roy Williams and TO and I don't trust the Ram offense to score more than 17 points two games in a row.  That means the much hated Cowboys only need 24 to cover.  I'll still be on Dallas (may the Redskins forgive me).

    Keep the shades on.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2008 - 12:54 AM ET #33

    Cowbillies can't cover the pass, no running game. Blitz Johnson every play. If Romo plays, he couldn't hold on to the ball any way, he may have 3 fumbles taking the ball from center, or throw the ball all the place with that bum finger, gee i hope so.
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    Cowbillies can't cover the pass, no running game. Blitz Johnson every play. If Romo plays, he couldn't hold on to the ball any way, he may have 3 fumbles taking the ball from center, or throw the ball all the place with that bum finger, gee i hope so.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2008 - 4:05 AM ET #34

    Damn! I would love to go against the Cowboys in this one with all the injuries and players out but the Rams just won their first game and still too early to tell if they are bouncing back.
     
    Romo requesting to play on Sun but I doubt that will happen being that Jerry Jones probably feels more comfortable with a healthy arm throwing to his billion dollar Wr corp. 
     
    I can't even trust Brad Johnson getting the ball to the Wr's to take the over in this one.
     
    No play for me....I think
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    Damn! I would love to go against the Cowboys in this one with all the injuries and players out but the Rams just won their first game and still too early to tell if they are bouncing back.
     
    Romo requesting to play on Sun but I doubt that will happen being that Jerry Jones probably feels more comfortable with a healthy arm throwing to his billion dollar Wr corp. 
     
    I can't even trust Brad Johnson getting the ball to the Wr's to take the over in this one.
     
    No play for me....I think
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2008 - 8:57 AM ET #35

    Thinking it's too early to tell if "they" are bouncing back means that after "they" do, it will be too late to capitalize on it. That kind of mindset will drive someone to bet on the Rams only after they go on a winning streak and as the winning streak is set to end. Be the parade. Not the parade-watcher. Conquer fear. Be bold.
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    Thinking it's too early to tell if "they" are bouncing back means that after "they" do, it will be too late to capitalize on it. That kind of mindset will drive someone to bet on the Rams only after they go on a winning streak and as the winning streak is set to end. Be the parade. Not the parade-watcher. Conquer fear. Be bold.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2008 - 5:14 PM ET #36

    I usually don't share angles i incorporate heavily into my NFL weekends, BUT I am going to here based upon my assurance of this play...

    Always play a team right after a good quarter back is injured. The team rallies and pulls for him. They want to show you they can still be a team without him, and they have his back...


    Dallas Cowboys -6.5

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    I usually don't share angles i incorporate heavily into my NFL weekends, BUT I am going to here based upon my assurance of this play...

    Always play a team right after a good quarter back is injured. The team rallies and pulls for him. They want to show you they can still be a team without him, and they have his back...


    Dallas Cowboys -6.5

    Big.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2008 - 7:23 PM ET #37

    I don't think that is secret sacred information or anything cp.  Dallas will cover this game, troops will rally and Romo might even play.
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    I don't think that is secret sacred information or anything cp.  Dallas will cover this game, troops will rally and Romo might even play.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2008 - 7:25 PM ET #38

    Just realized that my book actually took this game down, I guess they didn't know what to do when they heard the news about Romo possibly playing.
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    Just realized that my book actually took this game down, I guess they didn't know what to do when they heard the news about Romo possibly playing.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2008 - 5:58 PM ET #39

    Yeah, I jumped on the Boyz early when I heard Romo was out. He's still a work in progress and often hurts the boyz more than helps. Brad Johnson for a couple weeks will make this team even stronger as Romo watches and learns how to manage a game and not play like a horses ass. Now they're saying Romo might try and play. Big mistake and a screw job on my bet if he does.

    With Brad--Cowboyz cover the 6.5

    With Romo ---they lose outright.

    Wade grow some balls and sit him down!!!!!!!!!

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    Yeah, I jumped on the Boyz early when I heard Romo was out. He's still a work in progress and often hurts the boyz more than helps. Brad Johnson for a couple weeks will make this team even stronger as Romo watches and learns how to manage a game and not play like a horses ass. Now they're saying Romo might try and play. Big mistake and a screw job on my bet if he does.

    With Brad--Cowboyz cover the 6.5

    With Romo ---they lose outright.

    Wade grow some balls and sit him down!!!!!!!!!

     
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    St Louis is coming off their game of the year last week. They got their first win and things started to come together for their running game. Meanwhile, Dallas seems to be falling apart at the seems with Romo's condition, Pacman Jones continued failure off the field and Roy E. Williams coming to town. Coming off bad performances three weeks straight they have something to prove. With or without Romo they will take that all out on St Louis this week. The Rams are still a horrible team. Brad Johnson is a good experienced back up and the 'Boys might even put up more points this week with him healthy rather than a 75% Romo. Take advantage of the line move from -11 all the way down to -7 due to Romo's injury. I like the Cowboys anywhere below -10 in this game which WILL be a BLOWOUT.


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    St Louis is coming off their game of the year last week. They got their first win and things started to come together for their running game. Meanwhile, Dallas seems to be falling apart at the seems with Romo's condition, Pacman Jones continued failure off the field and Roy E. Williams coming to town. Coming off bad performances three weeks straight they have something to prove. With or without Romo they will take that all out on St Louis this week. The Rams are still a horrible team. Brad Johnson is a good experienced back up and the 'Boys might even put up more points this week with him healthy rather than a 75% Romo. Take advantage of the line move from -11 all the way down to -7 due to Romo's injury. I like the Cowboys anywhere below -10 in this game which WILL be a BLOWOUT.


    Cowboys -7
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirmartingale:

    Rams are a good teaser candidate here crossing the 7 and 10.  No way Brad Johnson does much, some sacks should lead to good field position for the Rams who are surging and could even win straight up.


    Brad Johnson may prove to be pretty good.  He did win a Superbowl a couple years ago.  Look what Kurt Warner has done with the Cardinals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirmartingale:

    Rams are a good teaser candidate here crossing the 7 and 10.  No way Brad Johnson does much, some sacks should lead to good field position for the Rams who are surging and could even win straight up.


    Brad Johnson may prove to be pretty good.  He did win a Superbowl a couple years ago.  Look what Kurt Warner has done with the Cardinals.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2008 - 5:27 PM ET #43

    St. Louis Rams +7
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2008 - 7:33 PM ET #44

    I love how someone said the rams are "surging". They're still pathetic and are playing a super bowl contending team. Romo being out is a good thing, Johnson will be able making throws short and long to baby Owens all day long. And Owens will put on a show. 150+ receiving, 2td+
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    I love how someone said the rams are "surging". They're still pathetic and are playing a super bowl contending team. Romo being out is a good thing, Johnson will be able making throws short and long to baby Owens all day long. And Owens will put on a show. 150+ receiving, 2td+
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2008 - 9:40 PM ET #45

    WELL THE COWSISSYS DRAW ANOTHER CRIPPLE THIS WEEK,SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH THIS BUNCH,BUT I THOUGHT THAT LAST WEEK??
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    WELL THE COWSISSYS DRAW ANOTHER CRIPPLE THIS WEEK,SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH THIS BUNCH,BUT I THOUGHT THAT LAST WEEK??
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2008 - 12:19 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyzwin:

    Yeah, I jumped on the Boyz early when I heard Romo was out. He's still a work in progress and often hurts the boyz more than helps. Brad Johnson for a couple weeks will make this team even stronger as Romo watches and learns how to manage a game and not play like a horses ass. Now they're saying Romo might try and play. Big mistake and a screw job on my bet if he does.

    With Brad--Cowboyz cover the 6.5

    With Romo ---they lose outright.

    Wade grow some balls and sit him down!!!!!!!!!





    Well said my friend...if Romo was playing this game, I was ready to jump ALL OVER the Rams.  He can't hold onto the ball with two good hands, how the hell would he manage with a broken finger?  The Cowboys I think grind this one out, but that 7 point line is tricky.  If it gets up to 7.5 tomorrow, I may throw some dough at it, but this just isn't a game you want to mess with.  Rams may still take this one straight up.  Who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyzwin:

    Yeah, I jumped on the Boyz early when I heard Romo was out. He's still a work in progress and often hurts the boyz more than helps. Brad Johnson for a couple weeks will make this team even stronger as Romo watches and learns how to manage a game and not play like a horses ass. Now they're saying Romo might try and play. Big mistake and a screw job on my bet if he does.

    With Brad--Cowboyz cover the 6.5

    With Romo ---they lose outright.

    Wade grow some balls and sit him down!!!!!!!!!





    Well said my friend...if Romo was playing this game, I was ready to jump ALL OVER the Rams.  He can't hold onto the ball with two good hands, how the hell would he manage with a broken finger?  The Cowboys I think grind this one out, but that 7 point line is tricky.  If it gets up to 7.5 tomorrow, I may throw some dough at it, but this just isn't a game you want to mess with.  Rams may still take this one straight up.  Who knows.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2008 - 12:46 AM ET #48

    careful with the over.
    cowboys will run the ball & control the clock imo.
    gl
     
     
     
     
    I'm a lifelong dallas fan (since '79) and I completely agree.  I don't care how bad St. Louis is supposed to be.  Romo isn't playing and the Rams have a new coach.  Jim Haslet is probably a much better coach than Scott Linehand ever was.  Plus did you all see Brad Johnson in preseason?  he looked ok at time and others he looked horrible.  I'm big on Dallas and I'm not even sure they will make the playoffs.  I'm hoping they will.  not sure if Roy Williams will make much of a difference in this game.
     
     
    This is one of those games where you  might want to play the over/under.  I would lean towards over, but I'm not overly confident.  Dallas hasn't covered 3 games straight. But isn't that the way Dallas always is when it comes to wagering?
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    cowboys will run the ball & control the clock imo.
    gl
     
     
     
     
    I'm a lifelong dallas fan (since '79) and I completely agree.  I don't care how bad St. Louis is supposed to be.  Romo isn't playing and the Rams have a new coach.  Jim Haslet is probably a much better coach than Scott Linehand ever was.  Plus did you all see Brad Johnson in preseason?  he looked ok at time and others he looked horrible.  I'm big on Dallas and I'm not even sure they will make the playoffs.  I'm hoping they will.  not sure if Roy Williams will make much of a difference in this game.
     
     
    This is one of those games where you  might want to play the over/under.  I would lean towards over, but I'm not overly confident.  Dallas hasn't covered 3 games straight. But isn't that the way Dallas always is when it comes to wagering?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2008 - 1:44 AM ET #49

    Dallas will lose out right because they are an over rated team with no defense lollll
     
    look for the rams to pick on horrible rookie corner mike jenkins
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    Dallas will lose out right because they are an over rated team with no defense lollll
     
    look for the rams to pick on horrible rookie corner mike jenkins
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2008 - 1:54 AM ET #50

    Dallas' injury concerns and off-field distractions will have an effect down the road, but it's not going to matter this week. The Cowboys should still be able to move the ball at will on a St. Louis defense with few impact players, and it's highly unlikely the Rams have the firepower to keep up. It may be a more methodical victory than Cowboy fans are used to witnessing, but the team will gladly sacrifice style points in order to avoid a repeat of what occurred the previous Sunday. Cowboys 30, Rams 17

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    Dallas' injury concerns and off-field distractions will have an effect down the road, but it's not going to matter this week. The Cowboys should still be able to move the ball at will on a St. Louis defense with few impact players, and it's highly unlikely the Rams have the firepower to keep up. It may be a more methodical victory than Cowboy fans are used to witnessing, but the team will gladly sacrifice style points in order to avoid a repeat of what occurred the previous Sunday. Cowboys 30, Rams 17

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