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 I just realized that 3 out of 4 team (CLEV, JETS, KC) that came off from a bye week have lost not only game but spreads too. The only team came off the bye week which is NE has not yet play (WTF). So will NE follow those 3 teams? 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

"All the big time players on big money are controlled by the industry." Peyton manning is a big time player so he would have to be controlled.  And when you speak about your knowledge of the world and the way it works, then tell me to "go read a book", your arrogance suggests enlightenment. You can call it whatever you want but I call an apple and apple, not an orange. You're a fool for thinking that you know more than other people, as is MGM.  This is the point that I am trying to get at.

Steveopa, I think you're wasting your time with people who think this way, cuz you'll just get too frustrated and then really wonder why and how there are so many loonies among us.  Why do you think we have an incompetent president in the whitehouse?  Logical thinkers are well outnumbered by whack jobs nowadays.  GL

 

 
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Carolina 27 New England17.....
 
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 I just realized that 3 out of 4 team (CLEV, JETS, KC) that came off from a bye week have lost not only game but spreads too. The only team came off the bye week which is NE has not yet play (WTF). So will NE follow those 3 teams? 


NOOOOOOOOOOO they wont!!!!
 
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Tough one to call, I might take the total. Carolina good running game,
Pats well not much to say if Brady can control the game and make good passes I can surely lean over + in my book.
 
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Just like KC last night, Carolina's record is against weaker teams.
Patriots developing momentum as season winds on. They are usually great in the second half of the season. Belichick good with an extra week to prepare, players rested. Patriots are weak in the middle against the run. Hometeam on Monday Night favors Carolina, but playoff caliber teams win on the road. I like getting $135 on the Pats moneyline. Good luck to all (who take the Pats.) 
As to the recurring "Vegas fixes the games" drivel, it's absurd. They can make 10% every weekend just by balancing their books with the spread. No need to fix anything. 
 
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Posted: #107
If the Denver game didn't go over....and they are the best scoring machine......I don't think the patriots can score ether....so the play is Carolina at home....and the under
 
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Posted: #108
under is the best bet IMO
 
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RIP VUE  ASHES TO ASHES !!!! LMFAO!!!!!
 
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Pats can't stop the run and will struggle with execution on the road against a very solid D.  I'm on Carolina tonight with now hesitation.  I'm also looking closely at the under as it looks like there is a slight advantage there with both teams O/U records and the fact that Carolina has two very solid RBs that are hitting their stride in the middle of the season now.  I think Brady gets frustrated in this one against this D and subsequently loses a 3-4 point game when it goes final.  I'll look to fade Carolina next week off this impending big win for them.  
 
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Everyone is talking about the teams that Carolina has faced. What teams has Tom Brady beaten up badly. A last second drive against NOLA, who should have iced the game?!? Great job Tommy B. THe pats have lost two games, both of which were against teams with great defenses. Cincy and NYJ. What makes you think the PATS will dominate this game. How can yall be so obtuse to realize that these Pats are not the pats of yesteryear. There record is not a accurate reflection of their ability. They are paper thin on D, struggle against teams with defensive talent, and are playing on the road no less. Please somebody tell me how and why this game will be a blowout for either side?  Where are the facts. Im not talking about subjective interpretations of scenarios. If Brady and Co. were so dominant wouldnt they be getting less points?!? There are no gifts in Vegas people. All you bandwagon folk jump on Brady's jock and take your money and watch it go .

The play is the Panthers and its not even close!!
 
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Posted: #112
NE 20 CAR 24 - Panthers and the Under. Panthers D-Line will disrupt Brady's flow tonight and cause 1-2 turnovers to give Cam & co good enough field position to punch it in a few times.
 
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Posted: #113
Quote Originally Posted by J0HNS0N:

Pats are getting points?!?! Do my eyes deceive me? No question about it. You gotta take Pats on this one!

You sir are an idiot!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Luv2Tease:

4 pages of posts n not one comment about the Pats finally having all their offensive weapons together for the first time all year? Gronk, Armandola and Vereen n pats coming off a bye to gel n figure out some plays to stop this Carolina D. Carolina really hasn't beat any quality teams in theie recent run. Ya niners at home sounds great but niners were banged up and are a physical run first team that plays right into the hands of Carolina. My first thought was Carolina at home cause its just so tough to go on the road n win against not only the team but homer calls. Brady doesn't get those bad calls against him cause the refs love him. Pats can afford a loss n Carolina can't so who really knows but gettin points off a bye week with all your weapons for first time seems like the play. 

Small play Pats +3.5 

Couldnt have said it better myself. I learned long ago not to: a) bet against the pats and b) bet against the pats coming off a bye! 
Bill Belichick against Ron Rivera? Rivera was one loss away from losing his job last year. 
Tom Brady vs. Panthers D? ill take Brady against any defense(except the giants, smh)
Cam Newton vs Pats D? Cam may make some big plays but I.believe Overall Belichick and co. has had 2 weeks to prepare for the hot Carolina team. Dont let cam beat you with his legs. Alot of contain Defense perhaps?

Pats win outright 31-24
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TheDudeMan:


Couldnt have said it better myself. I learned long ago not to: a) bet against the pats and b) bet against the pats coming off a bye! 
Bill Belichick against Ron Rivera? Rivera was one loss away from losing his job last year. 
Tom Brady vs. Panthers D? ill take Brady against any defense(except the giants, smh)
Cam Newton vs Pats D? Cam may make some big plays but I.believe Overall Belichick and co. has had 2 weeks to prepare for the hot Carolina team. Dont let cam beat you with his legs. Alot of contain Defense perhaps?

Pats win outright 31-24

You sound like you have a biased homer position. If you never bet agaisnt the pats, then congrats; you are one game above .500 for the season. What a joker of a comment. Everyone said the same thing about bye weeks when the ravens were playing the browns. It was the same garbage, harbough and ravens never lost coming off a bye. Well what happened? The ravens lost and didnt cover. I said it once and Ill say it against, the past is not an indicator of future behavior. Play the pats with all the other yuppies and get burned!
 
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Posted: #116
Belichick and the Patriotos really feel comfortable at this spot. For 2nd time in the year Pats are 3 point underdogs. Sure thing that last time they were in this same spot they were facing the Atlanta Falcons having a terrible year but I recall  the patriots offense was really struggling with key players being injured.

This team is different folks, with so many play makers available for Tom and coming from a bye week I just can't see Panthers keeping up with the offensive pace we all know Patriots can keep through the entire game.

I see a very comfortable spot for the patriots in this one.

New England ML and the OVER.

good luck

 
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Quote Originally Posted by kalrajbains:

MGM is my dawwg.  I don't personally know him but he speaks sense even if his picks lose. 

Thanks my man, for backing me up here. And let me apologize to everyone else for stirring up this controversy. Not what I intended to do, but you know that when you mention the word "Rigged" you're going to get a lot of people that are going to come on here and fight to protect their little dirty secret. Obviously "they" dont WANT you to know that these games are staged and that is why I think we have all these responses to my comment. Also the "Shut the f*** up" response from the guy with 1 post was probably a warning from you know who, for me to to state such things on a public message board. So, I won't say anything else about the games being rigged. 

I just wanted to help people win, and by letting people know this, I thought it would help. But I guess it won't since we have so many people that come on here to try and discredit it. Well, everyone has their own beliefs. I just know what I see when I watch the games. When I watch the QB's toss the ball on the ground, acting like they fumble it...I mean....COME ON MAN! lol They shouldn't make it so obvious if they don't want people to know. 

As for my plays winning....well yes I am a winning capper. I noticed when I do post here a lot of my plays lose and that was what I was talking about with the "bad karma" statement. When I don't post my plays they win at a very high percentage rate. I can put anyone on my service list for free for a month so you can see how well I do, when I don't post here.  But that Steve guy was exagerating about me. I don't recall every picking the bears to beat Detroit. I had Detroit all the way in that game. So, he's trying to make me look worse than I am. But let's say he was correct, and  I was only winning 10% of my plays here. That would mean I'd be the most profitable guy here, because you'd simply fade me and win 90%. 

So, I always love it when we have someone who wins 90% or loses 90% because they are a very profitable source to go by. So, Steve, instead of complaining about me, why not just fade me if I'm so terrible? 

And Sausage, thanks man. I'm glad you're not mad at me anymore. I never want to get people upset, it's just the way that I think so "off the wall" that I can't help it. I've always made people mad with my posts but I am glad to see that some people here actually do appreciate my advice. But I won't say anything about games being rigged anymore, as I can see that it doesn't help anything and only sturs up controversy.

To everyone else, Good Luck with this game. It should be a good one. I am still sticking with my Patriots Pick. (Fade if you want) I was on Denver last night, and while they didn't blow them out, they still covered so that's all that counts. I think Steveopa or whatever his name is was just trying to make me look a lot worse than I am, so that people will fade me, and I honestly wouldn't recommend fading me. No way I will lose 90% of my plays.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Fac:


. I agreed with you all the way here. Cam Newton and co beat only bad team (ATL, STL, NYG "except for SEA) at home so far. SEA is a good team but since they run the ball too much where is CARO is really good at defense running game so that is how they keep close to SEA game ON 09/08/13. As for on the road past 3 games CARO beat MINI, TB, SF (injury SF).

Caro won on the road:

- MINI 
- TB (Winless at that time)
- SF (alot of inquiries)

Caro won at home:

-  ATL (Everyone beat dirty bird)
- STL (bad team)
- NYG (Winless at that time, mostly turn over)

With all that being said CAM NEWTON is NOT TOM BRADY, when it come down 2:00 warning, I can count on TOM not CAM. 

NE for LARGE....and by the way  3 points is a icing on the cake. 

GOOD LUCK to all. 



You've got good logic bro. That's exactly the way I look at it, and why I said Carolina was a crap team. I think one reason Carolina won in SF was to establish themselves as a "good" team that can beat the top elite teams in the NFL. So now we convienently have them going against another top team in the NE Patriots the very next week. I think that is why we will see NE beat them this week. 

Sports betting is a lot more simple than most people make it out to be. Most of these cappers overthink their games when they would do so much better just keeping it simple as you and I do. No need to write up pages of anaylis when you've got only 2 sides to chose from. Gut feeling also works very well and that requires no write up. So you won't see me making write ups too often because that's not my style. What I do works for me and that's why I will stick with it. 

If it's not broke, don't fix it. lol
 
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And I'll take back what I said about Carolina being a crap team. They are not a "Crap' team (They were in recent seasons) They have now moved up to being a "Mediocre" team. I apologize for exagerating about them. They aren't down there with teams like Tampa Bay and Jacksonville (Who I would consider to be truly "Crap" teams)

But who would you take if you have an elite team, like NE who, as another mentioend is finally getting healthy this season, or a Mediocre team like Carolina, who has not truly proved themselves yet?

Another no brainer here. I can't overthink this. Patriots is the play.
 
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MGM YOU LOST THAT VEGAS FIX GAMES ONLY THYING THEY FIX ARE POINT SPREADS SO START THE FBOMBS SINCE YOU HAVE NO CLASS I HAVE COUPLE TEASERS GOING SMALL$25 EACH NE +9/5(DENVER-.5) NE ^39.5(DENVER-.5 NEW ENGLAND IS NOW HEALTHY WITH GROCK,*&OTHERS BACK  IM 49ER FAN THINK IT WILL BE LOW SCORING THOUGH BETS ARE ALL READY IN GOOD LUCK CAROLINA HAS HOME FIELD,BOTH RBS HEALTHY,GOOD QB ALSO DEFENSE BEST GIVING UP ONLY 12POINTS GAME GO PATS
 
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Patriots are best team off the bye week ever.

 

No one can game plan like Bellicheck. Give him and Brady an extra week to prepare and they will find a way to exploit Carolina.

 

Patriots romp 34-16

 

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There is no such thing as vegas fixing games I have 3 close friend who all play in the NFL and 1 in NBA. Vegas adjust lines to get equal action on both sides. The reason players make millions of dollars is so noone can bribe them to shave points n cover spreads. Shaving points n fixing games usually only occurs at the college level in small bullsh*t schools or when big universities have 20+ spreads when they are paid not to cover those lines, every gm is televised and watched repeatedly by coaches and players and scouts every wk. it would be so obvious to see a player who is taking dives or throwing garbage passes or shots. Ppl on here are so crazy w all these assumptions when they lose bets in the last minute of games. Its a sport garbage time happens thats why theres a line and u need factor all that garbage into every game and play we make. End of day why you think some sports books are at 1 and some are at 3 because noone really knows including vegas they cant tell u how Cam or Brady will play tonight thats why its gambling. Pats should win this game if its this much discussion its probably safer to bet small or dont touch it. It was a great wkend for alot of ppl w easy matchups I dont see that happening this week but tonights matchup getting points w the pats should b a no brainer.
 
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Posted: #123
  PLEASE PUT ALL IN FOR THE GAME TONITE !!!!!!!!!!!
  
           UNDER=WIN
 
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Posted: #124
Carolina is not as underrated as everyone here contends. Going into SF and beating that SF team is difficult. Especially with all their mistakes.

Talib is back playing tonight. That is the key for me. When he's in, that Pats D plays at another level. Bellicheck plans to stop the run, Talib and the DBs pick two from a mediocre Newton.

Pats +3


 
 
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Posted: #125

just wondering... was anybody on Denver + under last night??? to me, that combination is hard to see it coming.  vegas always win because they have to take the sides that most don't want. so for tonight,,, either, caro + over, or pats + under. 

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