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New York at San Francisco (11/13/2011)

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Away:  N.Y. Giants [4-3-1 ATS]
Home:  San Francisco [7-0-1 ATS]

Game Time: 4:15 PM
Stadium: Candlestick Park

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N.Y. Giants:
Passing: Eli Manning (2377)
Rushing: Ahmad Bradshaw (440)
Receiving: Victor Cruz (588)

San Francisco:
Passing: Alex Smith (1467)
Rushing: Frank Gore (782)
Receiving: Vernon Davis (339)

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This will be a low scoring game.  If gore is out then I can't see SF winning this. SF offense starts and ends with the run.

I am a little surprised that SF is a 3.5 favorite.  Giants aren't that bad and they will try to run and keep this game close. Im not expecting fireworks from either of theses qb.  

If gore plays, pick 49ers. If gore is out, pick giants but not to heavy.  Both teams strength of schedule doesn't seem all that difficult and i am not sold on the giants vs patriots game. Manning team is still not that good.  They squeaked by Miami ans a falling buffalo team.

49ers been playing average or below average team and winning. Their biggest test was Detroit at Detroit and they handled it well. They slayed the lion, now they will try to slay the giants. 

SF 23
Giants 16
 
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If the 49ers expect to win by the run they better not fall behind by a few scores because they'll never be able to catch up. Teams never seem as good once the Giants beats them, NE, Bills and Eagles. If the Giants beat the 9ers they will fall into that spot too.

Giants loss Boss and Smith but it looks like Ballard and Cruz are a up grade. Giants aren't that good but who is Dallas, Eagles? This should be a good game. We'll see if QB Smith can take the heat?

Finally the NYGs are getting points.

Giants +3.5, they win SU.
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I absolutely love San Fran here for 1 reason. Exactly 0 teams have not lost ATS since 1985. 16 teams have lost only once and the majority of the teams with only 1 loss actually have a push mixed in. Even if you say history has no bearing on the now I'd like the Giants here anyway. Asking San Fran to stay perfect on the east coast is a tough task and the G-men have a huge advantage at QB in this game. On a side note I checked out whether 2 teams have had only 1 loss ATS in the same year after week 10 and that has indeed happened 3 times, otherwise I'd have played the Bengals as well.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:

If the 49ers expect to win by the run they better not fall behind by a few scores because they'll never be able to catch up. Teams never seem as good once the Giants beats them, NE, Bills and Eagles. If the Giants beat the 9ers they will fall into that spot too.

Giants loss Boss and Smith but it looks like Ballard and Cruz are a up grade. Giants aren't that good but who is Dallas, Eagles? This should be a good game. We'll see if QB Smith can take the heat?

Finally the NYGs are getting points.

Giants +3.5, they win SU.

O.K. Spy - - are you still vomiting up your precious win over Justin Bieber and the Hoodie?????????? You got it all up there, little guy???? You O.K.??? You need a Flinstone's Chewable or something?? - - - - - - NO??!?!?!?

O.K. Little Man, here's where your model Lionel train comes off the rails.........

Everyone always has their little "West Coast can't travel to the East Coast" B.S. - and we all know how that's worked for the 49ers this year:

@ Cincinnati -

@ Philly -

@ Detroit -

@ Washington -

Now, how about the East travelling to the West??? How's them Giants against these West Coast teams???

Squeaker against The Cardinals?????????.......

LOSING - - TO THE SEAHAWKS AT HOME..........

MIAMI??? - O.K. - but they play the West Coast style..............

Bring up all of your stats you want, but how's your team against the run?? With a certain Frank Gore on the horizon. Hmmmmmmm I don't know, ranked, oh, I don't know, 25th???

Hmmmm where do the 49ers rank against your "non" Bradshaw and Lerpy Brandon Jacobs.......... Hmmmmmm, let's see........

oh....... I don't know.......

#1?????????

3.5 points?? Don't make me laugh. I was leary of the stinkin' Pats last week - but that was your Superbowl...........

Prepare yourself for the:

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The same Seahawks who crushed the Saints in the playoffs? The Cards gave the Steelers a rough time and Miami who just killed KC on the road. You never know when a team is going to play their best game. The 49ers can run but can they score as fast as they may need to when they need to? What if the 9ers can't run, is Smith going to win the game for them. The Eagles lead the NFL in rushing, the Giants took care of them. 9ers better have more than a rushing game.
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The Giants are no SuperBowl contenders, let's face it if the 49ers can get a little pressure on Eli he will look like a deer in headlights and just throw the ball in the air like he normally does under pressure. You say the Giants lost Boss and Smith and now Cruz and Ballard are an upgrade? WTF, these guys play 1 maybe 2 good games and you call them an upgrade, you my friend are very delerious. Giants fans are all the same, when they win with back ups the new guy is the next jerry Rice but when you lose with back ups you complain it's because such and such was hurt.
 
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The Giants are no SuperBowl contenders, let's face it if the 49ers can get a little pressure on Eli he will look like a deer in headlights and just throw the ball in the air like he normally does under pressure. You say the Giants lost Boss and Smith and now Cruz and Ballard are an upgrade? WTF, these guys play 1 maybe 2 good games and you call them an upgrade, you my friend are very delerious. Giants fans are all the same, when they win with back ups the new guy is the next jerry Rice but when you lose with back ups you complain it's because such and such was hurt.

Better worry about the Cowbillies, Bills lead the NFL in creating turnovers, #2 in INTs. How many pick 6's is Romo going to throw this week? Eli can handle pressure, can Romo? Cruz vs. Bryant, Cruz 34 rec. 588 yards avg. 17.3-Bryant 26 rec. 443 17.0. Cruz didn't even play last year. Plus unlike Smith Cruz can score from 80 yards away where Smith would get you the catch. I'am going to love the games against Dallas this year. Dallas is already the preseason favorite to win it all next year, so many weapons.

How can anyone be a Dallas fan? What have they done in 15 years? I bet the Dolphins beat you on Turkey day and right now they only have one win.
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Staying away from this one. To many easier bets. Danger Will Robinson!!
 
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If you're read my post weekly.. you'd know that I've made a lot of $$ over Niners this season.  If the spread was PK and Gore was in, I'd take Niners for a medium bet.  But Gore questionable and possibly not 100%, I have to stay out.  A good gambler knows when to bet.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by njdan:

The Giants are no SuperBowl contenders, let's face it if the 49ers can get a little pressure on Eli he will look like a deer in headlights and just throw the ball in the air like he normally does under pressure. You say the Giants lost Boss and Smith and now Cruz and Ballard are an upgrade? WTF, these guys play 1 maybe 2 good games and you call them an upgrade, you my friend are very delerious. Giants fans are all the same, when they win with back ups the new guy is the next jerry Rice but when you lose with back ups you complain it's because such and such was hurt.

This is a capping site, not sports talk radio! Are you just another angry Dallas fan or do you have any insight into this game to help the rest of us win some money? Im not trying to make waves here but Covers is for cappers looking to be money makers not flag wavers. Its like going in a fantasy football chat room and talking about politics.  Try NFL.com or something for the rah rah us versus them bullshit, this is not the proper forum. If you want to bet your Cowboys every single week without logic thats your business. Ask any halfway decent capper what happens to those of us who bet with our hearts. Bring something to the table besides everyone sucks but Dallas. Its sounds like a bunch of Junior High kids at lunch table who cant have a coherent football conversation because all they know how to do is cheer for scores and tell the other team they suck.  And who on earth seriously considers the Giants superbowl contenders? They will be a playoff team but come on now!

That being said , I agree with you Nevergoless, know when to hold em know when to fold em. The G-men are a tough crew to figure out. I can see a low scoring affair here, especially with Gore's status uncertain. This has me thinking under 42 if any play at all. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by NEVERgo4less:

If you're read my post weekly.. you'd know that I've made a lot of $$ over Niners this season.  If the spread was PK and Gore was in, I'd take Niners for a medium bet.  But Gore questionable and possibly not 100%, I have to stay out.  A good gambler knows when to bet.

Agreed! 49 ers have made me good money also. But there are better games this week like Houston for the large.

 
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SF -3.5 (1u) - Will there be a let-down by the Niners after their great road-run?  Its probably not a huge value play one way or the other.  Stronger need to win on the giants, the g-men have a good road record too, the niners may be the better team as shown in the line, i'm not sure there will be a let down by sf.  Have the niners over-performed?  hmmm, i'm bettin they're the real deal.  Score: Giants 14 - Forty-Niners 33.
 
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Tbh, at the moment i see San Francisco 49'ers as the best team in the NFL. You might not have an offense as good as Packers, but overall i like the 49'ers more than any other team.

So much hype about Giants and Manning calling himself the best quarterback in the league, but it's so false. Giants going 7-2? Don't think so. I think 49'ers will take this one in a low scoring game.

I will go for the Under play here!
 
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    Cappers who rely on trend analysis at this time of the season are fighting a losing battle with the bookies. This version of the NY Giants is a "cheap suit" compared to when the G-Men complied most of their great road win trends. The 49ers are on  a higher playing level than NY. Harbaugh's got these guys playing and believing, and "Big Blue" is just another loss on their schedule as they march off towards the play-offs. I might add just like the the Raiders on Thurday,both teams defy the publics perception of them!  I am hammering this game with both fists! Get on board, or be left at the station.

SAN FRANCISCO - 3.5 (VERY,VERY LARGE!)

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

SF -3.5 (1u) - Will there be a let-down by the Niners after their great road-run?  Its probably not a huge value play one way or the other.  Stronger need to win on the giants, the g-men have a good road record too, the niners may be the better team as shown in the line, i'm not sure there will be a let down by sf.  Have the niners over-performed?  hmmm, i'm bettin they're the real deal.  Score: Giants 14 - Forty-Niners 33.


49ers better stay away from 3rd & 10's, their choices are on 3rd are screens or pass for 10. 1st and 2nd downs you know they are going to be runs. The more i hear the Giants can't win the more i think they will. Are the 49ers reading their own press? Someone in sports said, styles make the fight. I think Eli will make better choices then the 9er "D". That will put them in a panic, into mistakes. Who are they going to double? Nicks? Leave Cruz one on one, Manningham one on one? Ballard's still there.

49ers for real, why is the spread only -3.5 surely they could rate a -7.5?
Giants win SU, this is not their first big pressure game and they play great on the road.
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That's not true. The arguments that people put on for this game, are just stupid. San Francisco 49'ers has the best Offensive line in the game, so good luck to Giants putting on a game here, they have nothing to do - and im not sure how they are going to cover anything.

Im pretty sure that you will be pissed off watching a game like this, if you have put your money on the Giants, you will be very frustrated to see how easy 49'ers make football look. Ny Giants are so overrated.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:


...The more i hear the Giants can't win the more i think they will. Are the 49ers reading their own press? ......."


The G-men could very well win. Their road record is something like 14-6 ATS, that's got to be respected. I just think the Niner Defense/special teams will continue to carry this team. For example 10 of their last 46 drives started in enemy territory.  Their other stat i like is their turnover, one of the lowest in the NFL (7). As long as A.Smith continues to protect the ball, i'll lay some money on SF, maybe not as much as by good buddy the Vue.  Oh, my other concern is Gores ankle, he's been nursing it all week... GL
 
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San Francisco - 27                                  New York - 13

49ers -3.5                                           under 42.5

G-Men have feasted off nfc west teams. 5-0 ats last 5 vs Niners. With the Eagles up next the G-Men get caught looking ahead.

Niners - under

 
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Gore might not be a hundred percent. Giants also have a respectable turnover margin. Both teams are getting 1.2 interceptions per game.  Giants have to many aerial weopons  for San Fran to effect a no fly zone. Gores ankle will wear on him as the game progresses.  Gmen are averaging 3.5 sacks per game vs Friscos 2.8. Smith still a bit green might do something stupid under pressure although Manning has been known to do the same but at least in the enemys red zone usually and not on their own side of the field. Putting Gians in my teaser.  I cant see Frisco winning by ten points and will probably take the giants money line also for one unit. as they came threw nicely for me last week on the moneyline.
 
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Also who besides Detroit has Frisco played that had a strong air attack? Detroits rush defense is lacking, not that the Giants is stellar though.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

    Cappers who rely on trend analysis at this time of the season are fighting a losing battle with the bookies. This version of the NY Giants is a "cheap suit" compared to when the G-Men complied most of their great road win trends. The 49ers are on  a higher playing level than NY. Harbaugh's got these guys playing and believing, and "Big Blue" is just another loss on their schedule as they march off towards the play-offs. I might add just like the the Raiders on Thurday,both teams defy the publics perception of them!  I am hammering this game with both fists! Get on board, or be left at the station.

SAN FRANCISCO - 3.5 (VERY,VERY LARGE!)

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Giants have already defeated the NFL's best rushing offense by 13 points, what else have you got? Don't forget the 49ers play in the NFL's weakest Div. " Harbaugh's got these guys playing and believing, and "Big Blue" is just another loss on their schedule as they march off towards the play-offs."

That what i meant by reading their own press on how good they are, on Sunday they will be in a panic. NY will give them a fear they have never known. Smith is going to have to throw to win the game, and remain up right, Giants lead the NFL in sacks. Who's the best QB the 9ers have faced? Romo? Vick? Not Vick.

Giants won't need the +3.5
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Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:

Giants have already defeated the NFL's best rushing offense by 13 points, what else have you got? Don't forget the 49ers play in the NFL's weakest Div. "


The "best rushing offense", are you talking about Philly?  The niners beat em too.  Being in the worst division?. while that may be true, they've only played one division member (SEA), all the other wins have been east cost teams. I'm thinking of joining VUE now and putting a little more on sf.
 
 
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Something is not right, SF-3.5.  Last week Giants beat N.E on the road.  N.E is much better team than SF.
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