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    Seattle at Denver (02/02/2014)

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    easypics
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:38 PM ET #26

    GRAB IT
    While you can. . .

    BET ON IT : Line will keep Climbin'
    Would it really be surprising to see a 3.5 book balancer ?

    Seahawks have not lost by Double digits for a long ,long time...

    That's fine with me .

    BRONCOS 31 SHAWKS 23
    BOLA

    My man Vali , GL with your pick ,be careful what you bring to $$$ $ Window.
    This game will be close n' certainly not a SHawks blowout, 
    as the 13.5 line you predicted vs Frisco.

    What would really concern  ? 

    Seeing Vue Picking Broncos
      

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    GRAB IT
    While you can. . .

    BET ON IT : Line will keep Climbin'
    Would it really be surprising to see a 3.5 book balancer ?

    Seahawks have not lost by Double digits for a long ,long time...

    That's fine with me .

    BRONCOS 31 SHAWKS 23
    BOLA

    My man Vali , GL with your pick ,be careful what you bring to $$$ $ Window.
    This game will be close n' certainly not a SHawks blowout, 
    as the 13.5 line you predicted vs Frisco.

    What would really concern  ? 

    Seeing Vue Picking Broncos
      

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:52 PM ET #27

    Watching the start of the 1st Q of the SEA/SF I thought SF was going to win the game. SF was outplaying SEA.  They had a lot of energy and the strip sack of Wilson.  Although 3 was like a win for SEA.  But the way KAP was playing did not look good for SEA.  But SEA kept playing.  The stayed with the run and stopped the run and eventually took control of the game.  

    You always hear that the formula is to run and stop the run.  Defense wins championships.  You pass to score and you run to win.  And SEA play this way.  SEA is very successful when Wilson throws less than 20 passes.  That is why SEA plays close games.
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    Watching the start of the 1st Q of the SEA/SF I thought SF was going to win the game. SF was outplaying SEA.  They had a lot of energy and the strip sack of Wilson.  Although 3 was like a win for SEA.  But the way KAP was playing did not look good for SEA.  But SEA kept playing.  The stayed with the run and stopped the run and eventually took control of the game.  

    You always hear that the formula is to run and stop the run.  Defense wins championships.  You pass to score and you run to win.  And SEA play this way.  SEA is very successful when Wilson throws less than 20 passes.  That is why SEA plays close games.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:52 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by az49erdog:

    "Hard to be humble when you're the finest" kind of mentality Xyberz lends me to believe you're severely insecure and a borderline paranoid schizophrenic. Might also have some narcissistic  and grandiose tendencies as well. But, on the bright side, if you do win, you tend to kick the dog less often and (if you're married) you're wife will keep the one good eye she has left. Remember dude, if all else fails, you can always tear the wings of flies off right! :)


    I can accept that!  Hey, it's boring being normal or even worse, a wanna be perfectionist without that crazy little something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by az49erdog:

    "Hard to be humble when you're the finest" kind of mentality Xyberz lends me to believe you're severely insecure and a borderline paranoid schizophrenic. Might also have some narcissistic  and grandiose tendencies as well. But, on the bright side, if you do win, you tend to kick the dog less often and (if you're married) you're wife will keep the one good eye she has left. Remember dude, if all else fails, you can always tear the wings of flies off right! :)


    I can accept that!  Hey, it's boring being normal or even worse, a wanna be perfectionist without that crazy little something.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 1:06 PM ET #29

    If the 'best cornerback in the league' barely edges out a 'mediocre' receiver, then doesn't that make that corner a tad better than mediocre? Manning and the Broncs by 10..
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    If the 'best cornerback in the league' barely edges out a 'mediocre' receiver, then doesn't that make that corner a tad better than mediocre? Manning and the Broncs by 10..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 2:51 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:


    hat game were you watching???  Clearly you're a Seahawk fan and you're basing your "betting" off of your emotions and your love for your team.  Let me tell you right now that you're dead WRONG!  Manning is my QB and Denver has become my team because Indy didn't want him no more but I'm not stupid enough to use my love for a team or emotions dictate what I'll be betting.  

    Last week I called it down to a "T" what would happen during the Denver/NE game and you can even verify my posts since you can't delete them.  I called what would happen better than anyone on that thread did.  Denver led the whole game because they took the early lead.  NE had to abandon the run and rely on Brady's arm.  They got within 10 points at the end and had a chance to cover the spread no matter when you took it.  But because this is Brady's worst year, I couldn't give a high percentage of having him win that game thus calling the best bet being the Denver ML.  No one even came close to what I predicted and I didn't just pull that out of thin air.  

    I watched both games closely and you can't deny what is clearly on video and shown.  This is what I observed with Denver.  They became more balanced on the run game and it showed with the 100yd running game but they are still very pass heavy with 400yds totaling over 500.  Their defense throughout the playoffs has tightened up immensely becoming number 1 overall and number 2 in rush defense.  They shut out the best thing going for NE and that was their run game having to rely on Brady which sadly has lost a lot on offense.  Brady is great and he makes no name guys look great without a doubt.  But Denver has too much potent offensive talent, both in the passing and running game.  Overall this team has stepped up and clearly without a doubt proved they should be there.  No turn overs and pretty much as perfect a game you can get from any team, not because it's only "Denver".  This is what all teams aim for, good playing on all 3 sides of the ball.  

    Now lets examine that shame of a game from Seattle/SF.  Play NUMBER 1, Wilson runs around and fumbles the ball in the red zone.  Thank God you guys have a damn defense and held SF to only a FG.  I watched Kapernick run all over your defense and if it wasn't for the many turnovers, they would've EASILY handed Seattle a loss at home.  I don't like either teams so this is an observation of the whole game.  I gotta admit, it was more exciting to watch at the end than the Denver game because of all the mistakes and the closeness that ensued.  But it was a typical boring beginning of 2 "defensive" minded teams.  

    1. Ok so now that we know that Denver played nearly pefect game compared to the sloppy display that Seattle showed, I'll tell you why Denver hands Seattle a loss and I'm predicting it to be by at least 7 but in the event that I'm wrong, it'll be by no less than 3 which will cover the spread regardless.  That's why we're here right?  To make money, not to cheer for our team.  This is a sports betting site so let's fill it with useful betting information, not how much you love this or that and because of your emotions is why your team will win.  So leave that garbage at the door because I am.

    funny in his post he objectively analyzed his take on the game without professing his undying "love" for either quarterback (unlike yourself) and never tried to tell anyone to take either side, he stated quite clearly he was "just saying" these (his) opinions, which I took to mean he was offering the contrarian veiwpoint or playing devil's advocate

    you on the other hand within the first paragraph of your post have called out the previous poster for being "too emotional" and yet in the very next sentence you state that you "love Manning"

    this is completely hypocritical or as the old saying goes "its like the pot calling the kettle black"

    A real analysis I think should include some discussion of the fact that Denver relies heavily upon their passing game to generate most of their points which plays right into the strength of the Seattle defense not to mention the fact that your beloved Manning has never won (or even played good) in any cold weather outdoor playoff games  

    so who usually prevails when a stout defense goes up against a prolific offense in the playoffs? 

    Well the old adage "defense wins championships" comes to mind..... but this is 2014, surely Peyton should be able to carve up the #1 pass defense in the league in an outdoor stadium in near freezing temperatures for the first time in his career right? What were the linesmakers thinking opening Seattle -2 in the biggest game of the year? Bunch of idiots if you ask me, how does vegas stay in business giving away a lock like Denver at less than a field goal? Unless they know something you don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:


    hat game were you watching???  Clearly you're a Seahawk fan and you're basing your "betting" off of your emotions and your love for your team.  Let me tell you right now that you're dead WRONG!  Manning is my QB and Denver has become my team because Indy didn't want him no more but I'm not stupid enough to use my love for a team or emotions dictate what I'll be betting.  

    Last week I called it down to a "T" what would happen during the Denver/NE game and you can even verify my posts since you can't delete them.  I called what would happen better than anyone on that thread did.  Denver led the whole game because they took the early lead.  NE had to abandon the run and rely on Brady's arm.  They got within 10 points at the end and had a chance to cover the spread no matter when you took it.  But because this is Brady's worst year, I couldn't give a high percentage of having him win that game thus calling the best bet being the Denver ML.  No one even came close to what I predicted and I didn't just pull that out of thin air.  

    I watched both games closely and you can't deny what is clearly on video and shown.  This is what I observed with Denver.  They became more balanced on the run game and it showed with the 100yd running game but they are still very pass heavy with 400yds totaling over 500.  Their defense throughout the playoffs has tightened up immensely becoming number 1 overall and number 2 in rush defense.  They shut out the best thing going for NE and that was their run game having to rely on Brady which sadly has lost a lot on offense.  Brady is great and he makes no name guys look great without a doubt.  But Denver has too much potent offensive talent, both in the passing and running game.  Overall this team has stepped up and clearly without a doubt proved they should be there.  No turn overs and pretty much as perfect a game you can get from any team, not because it's only "Denver".  This is what all teams aim for, good playing on all 3 sides of the ball.  

    Now lets examine that shame of a game from Seattle/SF.  Play NUMBER 1, Wilson runs around and fumbles the ball in the red zone.  Thank God you guys have a damn defense and held SF to only a FG.  I watched Kapernick run all over your defense and if it wasn't for the many turnovers, they would've EASILY handed Seattle a loss at home.  I don't like either teams so this is an observation of the whole game.  I gotta admit, it was more exciting to watch at the end than the Denver game because of all the mistakes and the closeness that ensued.  But it was a typical boring beginning of 2 "defensive" minded teams.  

    1. Ok so now that we know that Denver played nearly pefect game compared to the sloppy display that Seattle showed, I'll tell you why Denver hands Seattle a loss and I'm predicting it to be by at least 7 but in the event that I'm wrong, it'll be by no less than 3 which will cover the spread regardless.  That's why we're here right?  To make money, not to cheer for our team.  This is a sports betting site so let's fill it with useful betting information, not how much you love this or that and because of your emotions is why your team will win.  So leave that garbage at the door because I am.

    funny in his post he objectively analyzed his take on the game without professing his undying "love" for either quarterback (unlike yourself) and never tried to tell anyone to take either side, he stated quite clearly he was "just saying" these (his) opinions, which I took to mean he was offering the contrarian veiwpoint or playing devil's advocate

    you on the other hand within the first paragraph of your post have called out the previous poster for being "too emotional" and yet in the very next sentence you state that you "love Manning"

    this is completely hypocritical or as the old saying goes "its like the pot calling the kettle black"

    A real analysis I think should include some discussion of the fact that Denver relies heavily upon their passing game to generate most of their points which plays right into the strength of the Seattle defense not to mention the fact that your beloved Manning has never won (or even played good) in any cold weather outdoor playoff games  

    so who usually prevails when a stout defense goes up against a prolific offense in the playoffs? 

    Well the old adage "defense wins championships" comes to mind..... but this is 2014, surely Peyton should be able to carve up the #1 pass defense in the league in an outdoor stadium in near freezing temperatures for the first time in his career right? What were the linesmakers thinking opening Seattle -2 in the biggest game of the year? Bunch of idiots if you ask me, how does vegas stay in business giving away a lock like Denver at less than a field goal? Unless they know something you don't?
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 2:53 PM ET #31

    Phor20... this defense baits you into bad plays..
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    Phor20... this defense baits you into bad plays..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 4:07 PM ET #32

       Skitzo...Paranoid...Insecure....Love ...Hate...

    WHOGIVESASHIT ?
    Where Art thou DD ?
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       Skitzo...Paranoid...Insecure....Love ...Hate...

    WHOGIVESASHIT ?
    Where Art thou DD ?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 5:47 PM ET #33

    BIG WAGER on the money line for the DENVER BRONCOS!!! Don't get me wrong I KNOW how good the Seahawks D is, I respect their game style, and Pete Carroll is a great coach.. But think about it---Denver already had one week rest on the bye, then beat a very hot Chargers team, then had to beat Cry Baby Brady in the AFC Championship game--- Now the best offensive mind in football (Manning) has 2 whole weeks to prepare for one team and one game for his highly sought after 2nd Super Bowl Ring! Not saying it is gonna be a blowout by any stretch, however, I think that if the Broncos D keeps playing with the intensity they have been, and Peyton can control the time of possession and win the turnover battle they will win a very entertaining Super Bowl --- Prediction DEN 31 SEA 23
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    BIG WAGER on the money line for the DENVER BRONCOS!!! Don't get me wrong I KNOW how good the Seahawks D is, I respect their game style, and Pete Carroll is a great coach.. But think about it---Denver already had one week rest on the bye, then beat a very hot Chargers team, then had to beat Cry Baby Brady in the AFC Championship game--- Now the best offensive mind in football (Manning) has 2 whole weeks to prepare for one team and one game for his highly sought after 2nd Super Bowl Ring! Not saying it is gonna be a blowout by any stretch, however, I think that if the Broncos D keeps playing with the intensity they have been, and Peyton can control the time of possession and win the turnover battle they will win a very entertaining Super Bowl --- Prediction DEN 31 SEA 23
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 5:59 PM ET #34

    Way too early for me to decide which way to go on this but I do have one thing I want to say...

    I want Richard Sherman to get beat all day long in an embarrassing manner.  I want to see him responsible for allowing over 100+ receiving yards and maybe a couple of scores that directly result in his team losing the game.

    I'm not sure why almost everyone in the sports news business is trying to excuse his classless behavior after the win over SF.  I have NEVER seen an NFL professional behave that way on such a grand stage...actually on any stage whatsoever.

    I don't want to hear about him "being real" or "in the moment" because that's a bunch of garbage.

    Anyway...that's my two cents.  Been listening to the talking heads go on about this for two days and just wanted to share.

    Good luck to all of you on the game whichever way you roll...

    For the record - not a SF fan just hate to see such poor sportsmanship.   

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    Way too early for me to decide which way to go on this but I do have one thing I want to say...

    I want Richard Sherman to get beat all day long in an embarrassing manner.  I want to see him responsible for allowing over 100+ receiving yards and maybe a couple of scores that directly result in his team losing the game.

    I'm not sure why almost everyone in the sports news business is trying to excuse his classless behavior after the win over SF.  I have NEVER seen an NFL professional behave that way on such a grand stage...actually on any stage whatsoever.

    I don't want to hear about him "being real" or "in the moment" because that's a bunch of garbage.

    Anyway...that's my two cents.  Been listening to the talking heads go on about this for two days and just wanted to share.

    Good luck to all of you on the game whichever way you roll...

    For the record - not a SF fan just hate to see such poor sportsmanship.   

     
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    20-16 Broncos.. 
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    I am not going to give some fancy analysis for this one. It's the Super Bowl and both teams are elite. We can throw all the playoff statistics out the window (they only played 2 games each in the playoffs). Believe it or not, I think the public is pounding Denver merely for the disgust of Richard Sherman's post-game antics. Like it or not, his comments have turned the public eye into a matchup of good guys vs bad guys. What do you think the public would rather see: Richard Sherman hoisting the Lombardi trophy or Champ Bailey, who's waited 15 years to get to the Super Bowl?? Obviously, Peyton and the Broncos are now in the "good guy" camp. Although it's impossible to say a bad thing about Russell Wilson. The guy is a winner and carries himself as the clear captain of his team (really impressive for a 2nd year pro). 

    Nonetheless, I was left with 2 simple conclusions on Sunday. The Broncos are a much better team than New England and there should be no argument on who should be representing the AFC in the Super Bowl. However, I can't say the same thing about Seattle. I think if it weren't for the 12th man, the 49ers could have easily won that game. The Seahawks were also the beneficiary of some favorable officiating, and some untimely 49er turnovers. Maybe that's also why the public is on Denver?

    Needless to say, we have to pick the game we're dealt and that's Seattle-Denver. I think Peyton got away with a couple errand throws last week that would have definitely been picked off by Seattle's ball-hawking secondary. Fortunately for the Broncos, Peyton has a whole 2 weeks to watch film and study Pete Carroll's legion of doom. 

    I think it's going to be a great game. And as much as I like to root for the bad guys in movies, I think the public might be right about this one. When the game is on the line in the 4th quarter, I'd feel more comfortable backing the guy who's played over 20 playoff games, the guy playing in his 3rd Super Bowl, and the guy who knows how hard it is to get to the big game. When Peyton was Russell's age, he was playing under Jim Mora when he gave his famous "playoffs" rant. That goes to show you the age gap between the two.

    But I digress...I expect the Broncos to use their super hurry up offense early and often, and for the first time, I think the pressure will be on Seattle's offense to play catch up. I am not worried about crowd noise even though it's the Super Bowl (I've been to MetLife multiple times and it's just not a loud stadium). If I were Seattle, I'd pray for wind and a wintry mix. The weather could really be a big factor in this one so I am going to wait till next week to make a wager. 

    But for now, I'm ignoring my inner wise guy and siding with Denver.

    TO BE CONTINUED.....
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    I am not going to give some fancy analysis for this one. It's the Super Bowl and both teams are elite. We can throw all the playoff statistics out the window (they only played 2 games each in the playoffs). Believe it or not, I think the public is pounding Denver merely for the disgust of Richard Sherman's post-game antics. Like it or not, his comments have turned the public eye into a matchup of good guys vs bad guys. What do you think the public would rather see: Richard Sherman hoisting the Lombardi trophy or Champ Bailey, who's waited 15 years to get to the Super Bowl?? Obviously, Peyton and the Broncos are now in the "good guy" camp. Although it's impossible to say a bad thing about Russell Wilson. The guy is a winner and carries himself as the clear captain of his team (really impressive for a 2nd year pro). 

    Nonetheless, I was left with 2 simple conclusions on Sunday. The Broncos are a much better team than New England and there should be no argument on who should be representing the AFC in the Super Bowl. However, I can't say the same thing about Seattle. I think if it weren't for the 12th man, the 49ers could have easily won that game. The Seahawks were also the beneficiary of some favorable officiating, and some untimely 49er turnovers. Maybe that's also why the public is on Denver?

    Needless to say, we have to pick the game we're dealt and that's Seattle-Denver. I think Peyton got away with a couple errand throws last week that would have definitely been picked off by Seattle's ball-hawking secondary. Fortunately for the Broncos, Peyton has a whole 2 weeks to watch film and study Pete Carroll's legion of doom. 

    I think it's going to be a great game. And as much as I like to root for the bad guys in movies, I think the public might be right about this one. When the game is on the line in the 4th quarter, I'd feel more comfortable backing the guy who's played over 20 playoff games, the guy playing in his 3rd Super Bowl, and the guy who knows how hard it is to get to the big game. When Peyton was Russell's age, he was playing under Jim Mora when he gave his famous "playoffs" rant. That goes to show you the age gap between the two.

    But I digress...I expect the Broncos to use their super hurry up offense early and often, and for the first time, I think the pressure will be on Seattle's offense to play catch up. I am not worried about crowd noise even though it's the Super Bowl (I've been to MetLife multiple times and it's just not a loud stadium). If I were Seattle, I'd pray for wind and a wintry mix. The weather could really be a big factor in this one so I am going to wait till next week to make a wager. 

    But for now, I'm ignoring my inner wise guy and siding with Denver.

    TO BE CONTINUED.....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:



    DENVER HAS NOT PUT UP OVER 26 POINTS AT MILE HIGH DURING THE PLAYOFFS BUT GO ON THE ROAD TO FROZEN NY VS THE NFL'S #1 D AND PUTS UP 31

    PROBABLY NOT!

    Exactly.  Easypics has been a MOOSE all year. His horoscope antics are horoscope looneys that drives you up the wall. Avoid him by all means !

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    DENVER HAS NOT PUT UP OVER 26 POINTS AT MILE HIGH DURING THE PLAYOFFS BUT GO ON THE ROAD TO FROZEN NY VS THE NFL'S #1 D AND PUTS UP 31

    PROBABLY NOT!

    Exactly.  Easypics has been a MOOSE all year. His horoscope antics are horoscope looneys that drives you up the wall. Avoid him by all means !

     
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    Money always goes on offense, even though everyone says "defense wins championships.". 

    Vegas opened line at SEA - 2 which tells you who they think is the better team.  Line swing to DEN - 2 was made to adjust to public.

    Add to that the potential for bad weather and a defensive backfield unlike any Manning has had to face this season.

    Give me SEA, but I'll prob wait and let the square bears (like pepa192) to drive up the spread.
     So u taking Seattle?? U just don't get it!! Seattle is just like N.O unbeatable at home but as soon as they c a different stadium they turn in to ROMO in December!!! They sck balls!!!! I think Denver at -2 is a disrespect to society!!!
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    Money always goes on offense, even though everyone says "defense wins championships.". 

    Vegas opened line at SEA - 2 which tells you who they think is the better team.  Line swing to DEN - 2 was made to adjust to public.

    Add to that the potential for bad weather and a defensive backfield unlike any Manning has had to face this season.

    Give me SEA, but I'll prob wait and let the square bears (like pepa192) to drive up the spread.
     So u taking Seattle?? U just don't get it!! Seattle is just like N.O unbeatable at home but as soon as they c a different stadium they turn in to ROMO in December!!! They sck balls!!!! I think Denver at -2 is a disrespect to society!!!
     
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    Sherman should of waited to rant after the SB...now, all he is is a distraction to the team. What a selfish me guy. broncos are taking note. If he was so fuking smart, he let his game do the talking but I guess it makes good tv. 

    I like the broncos for a lot  of reasons...I just don't think the hawks have the experience or their 12th man throwing food at an injured player to help them win the big game. 
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    Sherman should of waited to rant after the SB...now, all he is is a distraction to the team. What a selfish me guy. broncos are taking note. If he was so fuking smart, he let his game do the talking but I guess it makes good tv. 

    I like the broncos for a lot  of reasons...I just don't think the hawks have the experience or their 12th man throwing food at an injured player to help them win the big game. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:


    funny in his post he objectively analyzed his take on the game without professing his undying "love" for either quarterback (unlike yourself) and never tried to tell anyone to take either side, he stated quite clearly he was "just saying" these (his) opinions, which I took to mean he was offering the contrarian veiwpoint or playing devil's advocate

    you on the other hand within the first paragraph of your post have called out the previous poster for being "too emotional" and yet in the very next sentence you state that you "love Manning"

    this is completely hypocritical or as the old saying goes "its like the pot calling the kettle black"

    A real analysis I think should include some discussion of the fact that Denver relies heavily upon their passing game to generate most of their points which plays right into the strength of the Seattle defense not to mention the fact that your beloved Manning has never won (or even played good) in any cold weather outdoor playoff games  

    so who usually prevails when a stout defense goes up against a prolific offense in the playoffs? 

    Well the old adage "defense wins championships" comes to mind..... but this is 2014, surely Peyton should be able to carve up the #1 pass defense in the league in an outdoor stadium in near freezing temperatures for the first time in his career right? What were the linesmakers thinking opening Seattle -2 in the biggest game of the year? Bunch of idiots if you ask me, how does vegas stay in business giving away a lock like Denver at less than a field goal? Unless they know something you don't?
    , 

    Seems like you couldn't take my whole post as exactly as that, as a whole.  Yeah he's my favorite player of all time and I'm not letting my love for a player or team dictate my judgement for betting.  I can't profess my love for a team or player?  Nowhere in my post did I state that because I love so and so that your team or that team/player sucks.  I actually bet AGAINST him this year because I know this team very well and when to go against them and why.  I'm stating facts that help betters here and usually when you follow a team or player, you tend to know what they're capable of and not capable of.  If you check my posts whether betting with or against Denver this year, I believe I was either 100% ATS or very damn close to it.  If at most I missed 1 game.  Not too damn shabby for a amateur handicapper don't you think?

    Also I know the UH team too.  My post plays with this team was nearly 100% this year also.  I only missed 1 game and that was against Navy.    

    So take what you want out of my post and not talk about the WHOLE thing and try to crucify me if you want.  Doesn't deny what I posted as being true.  

    You state that Manning has never won in a postseason cold weather game.  You're probably right because I never checked it out.  But you also fail to state that neither has Wilson.  So who has the edge there?  If no one is clearly better than the other in such situation, then why the hell post it?  Useless and/or irrelevant information is not needed until such a time that it becomes relevant. Did you realize that the Superbowl is 12 days away?  I don't take weather seriously until it's a couple days before and that's not only for football's sake.  You can't take a meteoroligist's word for crap anything beyond that.  They're not mother nature nor are you, so prematurely stating it's gonna be hell is ridiculous.  

    And yes in my post I did tell you to take a side.  I clearly said that DENVER WILL WIN THE GAME BY AT LEAST 7 and if somehow I'm wrong by the 7 points, it will be no less than 3 which COVERS the spread.  Either way that CLEARLY says TAKE DENVER giving the chalk.  Is that clear enough for you?
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    funny in his post he objectively analyzed his take on the game without professing his undying "love" for either quarterback (unlike yourself) and never tried to tell anyone to take either side, he stated quite clearly he was "just saying" these (his) opinions, which I took to mean he was offering the contrarian veiwpoint or playing devil's advocate

    you on the other hand within the first paragraph of your post have called out the previous poster for being "too emotional" and yet in the very next sentence you state that you "love Manning"

    this is completely hypocritical or as the old saying goes "its like the pot calling the kettle black"

    A real analysis I think should include some discussion of the fact that Denver relies heavily upon their passing game to generate most of their points which plays right into the strength of the Seattle defense not to mention the fact that your beloved Manning has never won (or even played good) in any cold weather outdoor playoff games  

    so who usually prevails when a stout defense goes up against a prolific offense in the playoffs? 

    Well the old adage "defense wins championships" comes to mind..... but this is 2014, surely Peyton should be able to carve up the #1 pass defense in the league in an outdoor stadium in near freezing temperatures for the first time in his career right? What were the linesmakers thinking opening Seattle -2 in the biggest game of the year? Bunch of idiots if you ask me, how does vegas stay in business giving away a lock like Denver at less than a field goal? Unless they know something you don't?
    , 

    Seems like you couldn't take my whole post as exactly as that, as a whole.  Yeah he's my favorite player of all time and I'm not letting my love for a player or team dictate my judgement for betting.  I can't profess my love for a team or player?  Nowhere in my post did I state that because I love so and so that your team or that team/player sucks.  I actually bet AGAINST him this year because I know this team very well and when to go against them and why.  I'm stating facts that help betters here and usually when you follow a team or player, you tend to know what they're capable of and not capable of.  If you check my posts whether betting with or against Denver this year, I believe I was either 100% ATS or very damn close to it.  If at most I missed 1 game.  Not too damn shabby for a amateur handicapper don't you think?

    Also I know the UH team too.  My post plays with this team was nearly 100% this year also.  I only missed 1 game and that was against Navy.    

    So take what you want out of my post and not talk about the WHOLE thing and try to crucify me if you want.  Doesn't deny what I posted as being true.  

    You state that Manning has never won in a postseason cold weather game.  You're probably right because I never checked it out.  But you also fail to state that neither has Wilson.  So who has the edge there?  If no one is clearly better than the other in such situation, then why the hell post it?  Useless and/or irrelevant information is not needed until such a time that it becomes relevant. Did you realize that the Superbowl is 12 days away?  I don't take weather seriously until it's a couple days before and that's not only for football's sake.  You can't take a meteoroligist's word for crap anything beyond that.  They're not mother nature nor are you, so prematurely stating it's gonna be hell is ridiculous.  

    And yes in my post I did tell you to take a side.  I clearly said that DENVER WILL WIN THE GAME BY AT LEAST 7 and if somehow I'm wrong by the 7 points, it will be no less than 3 which COVERS the spread.  Either way that CLEARLY says TAKE DENVER giving the chalk.  Is that clear enough for you?
     
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    Took Broncos -2.5.  Denver should win this one by 7+.  Sherman is the best CB convincingly but he can only cover 1 guy.  Love Broncos's offense and defense right now.  Seahawks offense cannot keep up with Manning's scoring.

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    JUST CURIOUS, DID YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SO FAR IN THE PLAYOFFS SEATTLE HAS NOW FACED THE #5 & #7 TOTAL OFFENSES & THE #1 & #3 TOTAL DEFENSES IN THE NFL WHILE DENVER HAS FACED #6 & #10 OFFENSES & THE #8 & #10 DEFENSES.  PRETTY MUCH SKEWED NUMBERS TO ME!

    Have you realized how much differently teams can play during the playoffs and towards the ending of the year compared to the beginning of the season?  Did you realize that coaches typically DON'T take what was done the whole entire year into consideration in preparation for the next game?  They typically only take the last few games played because it's what's most important.  This was even stated as a fact on reports made by analysts.  Just to cover my bases here, obviously in the beginning of the season you can't look back a few games because it's the start.  I'd hate anyone accusing me of something as dumb as that but hey, I've seen worse.

    So are your numbers based purely on the whole season or just the last few games?  Yes I'll admit I do look a little further back than a few games for sure, but not purely for statistical purposes.  I'd like to see if a team is capable of being beat in certain areas, like the pass or the run or what ever.  But I'm not gonna rely heavily on that because teams change throughout the season and I'm sure you can agree with me on that.  

    So I'm gonna stick with what has happened only as of recent and not have to take the WHOLE entire season into account for just one game.  Because if I did then be coming up with crap like, "well Denver lost to Indy but then Indy lost to NE big time who just lost to Denver convincingly and blah blah blah blah".  You see, that was already said and done.  Denver has already made the changes necessary as so does every other team after a win a loss and moves on.  You can't hang onto a win or loss early in the season as being a dictator for your next game, unless of course something big happens like your major player goes down, like your QB then that's a whole different story.  There's a good chance that what you see early in the season, won't be happening towards the end so it's useless to nitpick everything and try to use everything in every game for your next one.  It's much too overwhelming for anyone to consider.  
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    JUST CURIOUS, DID YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SO FAR IN THE PLAYOFFS SEATTLE HAS NOW FACED THE #5 & #7 TOTAL OFFENSES & THE #1 & #3 TOTAL DEFENSES IN THE NFL WHILE DENVER HAS FACED #6 & #10 OFFENSES & THE #8 & #10 DEFENSES.  PRETTY MUCH SKEWED NUMBERS TO ME!

    Have you realized how much differently teams can play during the playoffs and towards the ending of the year compared to the beginning of the season?  Did you realize that coaches typically DON'T take what was done the whole entire year into consideration in preparation for the next game?  They typically only take the last few games played because it's what's most important.  This was even stated as a fact on reports made by analysts.  Just to cover my bases here, obviously in the beginning of the season you can't look back a few games because it's the start.  I'd hate anyone accusing me of something as dumb as that but hey, I've seen worse.

    So are your numbers based purely on the whole season or just the last few games?  Yes I'll admit I do look a little further back than a few games for sure, but not purely for statistical purposes.  I'd like to see if a team is capable of being beat in certain areas, like the pass or the run or what ever.  But I'm not gonna rely heavily on that because teams change throughout the season and I'm sure you can agree with me on that.  

    So I'm gonna stick with what has happened only as of recent and not have to take the WHOLE entire season into account for just one game.  Because if I did then be coming up with crap like, "well Denver lost to Indy but then Indy lost to NE big time who just lost to Denver convincingly and blah blah blah blah".  You see, that was already said and done.  Denver has already made the changes necessary as so does every other team after a win a loss and moves on.  You can't hang onto a win or loss early in the season as being a dictator for your next game, unless of course something big happens like your major player goes down, like your QB then that's a whole different story.  There's a good chance that what you see early in the season, won't be happening towards the end so it's useless to nitpick everything and try to use everything in every game for your next one.  It's much too overwhelming for anyone to consider.  
     
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    Who has time to read these novels...... Unless you show some creativity like ex, Sammy, quad..... Keep it simple.....



    I just think Seattle matches up really really well with Denver's receiving core.   I also think they will force turnovers from Ball and Moreno (any update on morenos status?)    Either way, nobody can run on this team.


    On the other side of the ball, Denver's defense has been impressive..... Despite this, they will not be able to contain lynch as SF did for the first half..... This run game is too good, and as previously alluded to, Carroll will not abandon it.


    I'll probably wager on Seattle..... But wait until the public continues to pound the broncos.

    GL to all....


    By the way, both teams played in the meadowlands this year.  Both teams smashed the giants in different ways.  Just something to bring up

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    I just think Seattle matches up really really well with Denver's receiving core.   I also think they will force turnovers from Ball and Moreno (any update on morenos status?)    Either way, nobody can run on this team.


    On the other side of the ball, Denver's defense has been impressive..... Despite this, they will not be able to contain lynch as SF did for the first half..... This run game is too good, and as previously alluded to, Carroll will not abandon it.


    I'll probably wager on Seattle..... But wait until the public continues to pound the broncos.

    GL to all....


    By the way, both teams played in the meadowlands this year.  Both teams smashed the giants in different ways.  Just something to bring up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    Creativity like EZ*****


    " $imple n' $traight "
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    I don't really care who wins cause my team out.watch out for lions&vikings next season.but I'm calling it now Seattle steals one in o.t 33-30 or 20-17 hawks.gonna be a slow but fast game.congrats rain city!!
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    I don't really care who wins cause my team out.watch out for lions&vikings next season.but I'm calling it now Seattle steals one in o.t 33-30 or 20-17 hawks.gonna be a slow but fast game.congrats rain city!!
     
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    I like Denver in this game but I can't stand the seahawks so I'm biased. I just can't see the seahawks team beating Denver and as bad as Denver's pass d was during the regular season they're playing pretty well in the playoffs and their run d is bad behind. Running is pretty much what Seattle does so I think the broncos win 31-17
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    I like Denver in this game but I can't stand the seahawks so I'm biased. I just can't see the seahawks team beating Denver and as bad as Denver's pass d was during the regular season they're playing pretty well in the playoffs and their run d is bad behind. Running is pretty much what Seattle does so I think the broncos win 31-17
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:



    DENVER HAS NOT PUT UP OVER 26 POINTS AT MILE HIGH DURING THE PLAYOFFS 

    BUT GO ON THE ROAD TO FROZEN NY VS THE NFL'S #1 D AND PUTS UP 31


    Hummm ...Believe Indy scored 30 + on visiting Shawks ...
    But Andrew Luck's offense is way more potent than Manning's offense ...Right ?

    But Gee Golly Wiz , You have a point ...Denver has not put up 26 points during the playoffs @ home !
     But they do average 36 Pts on the road to Seattle's 23 pts 
    Great Googalee Moogalee update !
    Shawks have played 2 playoffs team on the road this year n' guess what...Lost to both Indy n' Frisco.
    I might add if I was a square capper , saying how easily Broncs Outplayed Patriots who demolished Indy two weeks ago.
    But that's as weak as saying Broncs have'nt scored more than 26 pts at home during the playoffs.
    With Saints on top , Shawks are amongst top 5  worst  
    Jekyll  n' Hyde teams on the road.
    A proven problem that has plagued them over the years.
    Could care less whether Broncs score 31 or not .
    However if it makes you feel any better :

    BRONCS 29  SHAWKS 23
    Or if you prefer 
    BRONCS 20 SHAWKS 16
    Could easily be 2007 repeat when total came  in @ 31 when set @ 55
    Locked in @ Denver - 2 
    That'$ all that matter$

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    DENVER HAS NOT PUT UP OVER 26 POINTS AT MILE HIGH DURING THE PLAYOFFS 

    BUT GO ON THE ROAD TO FROZEN NY VS THE NFL'S #1 D AND PUTS UP 31


    Hummm ...Believe Indy scored 30 + on visiting Shawks ...
    But Andrew Luck's offense is way more potent than Manning's offense ...Right ?

    But Gee Golly Wiz , You have a point ...Denver has not put up 26 points during the playoffs @ home !
     But they do average 36 Pts on the road to Seattle's 23 pts 
    Great Googalee Moogalee update !
    Shawks have played 2 playoffs team on the road this year n' guess what...Lost to both Indy n' Frisco.
    I might add if I was a square capper , saying how easily Broncs Outplayed Patriots who demolished Indy two weeks ago.
    But that's as weak as saying Broncs have'nt scored more than 26 pts at home during the playoffs.
    With Saints on top , Shawks are amongst top 5  worst  
    Jekyll  n' Hyde teams on the road.
    A proven problem that has plagued them over the years.
    Could care less whether Broncs score 31 or not .
    However if it makes you feel any better :

    BRONCS 29  SHAWKS 23
    Or if you prefer 
    BRONCS 20 SHAWKS 16
    Could easily be 2007 repeat when total came  in @ 31 when set @ 55
    Locked in @ Denver - 2 
    That'$ all that matter$

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