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Top to bottom: Day, Fowler, McIIory, Spieth and throw in Watson.
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Sorry for the boring answer...but they're all the same tourney to tourney right now. Nobody is a clear cut closer and a killer for 4 rounds. I would put Adam Scott in this list as well.
Golf is becoming like the AAU Bball circuit. I've been a Bball official since 1999, and back then high school Bball players wanted to beat each other. Now, they all know each other, hang out and don't care about beating each other as much as they care about looking good in front of college scouts. They all know they can make more money if they work together than fighting each other.
Same as golf. You just had three of the top golfers in the world on spring break partying and documenting it on snapchat. Does that look like a group of guys with the killer instinct? No way. They can all make a sh*tload of money together if they all work together. The minute one of those guys starts dominating the others...the others start to lose endorsements, purses and value. And why would they do that. It's smart on their part, but it hurts the viewer and it makes betting on those guys impossible.
Golf is becoming like the AAU Bball circuit. I've been a Bball official since 1999, and back then high school Bball players wanted to beat each other. Now, they all know each other, hang out and don't care about beating each other as much as they care about looking good in front of college scouts. They all know they can make more money if they work together than fighting each other.
Same as golf. You just had three of the top golfers in the world on spring break partying and documenting it on snapchat. Does that look like a group of guys with the killer instinct? No way. They can all make a sh*tload of money together if they all work together. The minute one of those guys starts dominating the others...the others start to lose endorsements, purses and value. And why would they do that. It's smart on their part, but it hurts the viewer and it makes betting on those guys impossible.
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Quote Originally Posted by Newtons Law:
Good post Alan. The money and lifestyle is ridiculous.
Good post Alan. The money and lifestyle is ridiculous.
This could make for a great discussion as I think this speaks to bigger issues...and I'd love to get some more peoples opinions on it...
But I'm not sure if the money and lifestyle is ridiculous. At least not to them. It's the life people dream of. Money, women, traveling the world, power, etc. But to defend them, they are earning the money that the market has decided they are worth. Even the bad golfers are making bank as long as they keep their tour card.
People tune in to watch Spieth, McIlroy, Fowler, Day, Phil, Bubba, Scott, Sergio and Dustin. And why shouldn't they...these guys are the most interesting.
Stenson: Amazing golfer...snooze fest.
Snedeker: Elite at times...boooooooring.
Kuchar: When he's dialed in he's amazing...but I'm not making it a point to watch his round.
The guys earning all the money are the ones who have success and personality. That spring break snapchat was a calculated move on their part to show them partying together, getting along, and creating an elite club. It's part of the Millenial mindset where they aren't interested in tearing each other apart. They like helping people they consider equals. They see the big picture. They aren't concerned with being the best ever at their craft. They just want to be successful, and they know if everyone on their level is successful, they will be too. It's really smart business.
There are a lot of young cool guys on tour, but that spring break snapchat event should've given notice to every golf fan. These young guys are working together and supporting each other. The days of someone like Tiger Woods wanting to intimidate and rip the heart out of his opponents are loooong gone. After that trip, you think Fowler is going for the jugular if he's paried up against Rory on Sunday? Heck no...they'll congratulate each other after every shot. Cause they are all making bank. And I can't blame them.
But if golf fans are looking for the next rivalry? Good luck...it doesn't exist right now, and probably won't unless someone comes out of nowhere and calls these guys out. But that won't happen...because there's more money to be made if you're in the club than if you're out.
If you want to see what Jordan Spieth is really motivated by...read this
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-jordan-spieth-brand-accelerating-as-fast-as-a-300-yard-drive
There's just so much money to be made in being a big name in golf...the winning isn't even important to these guys. When Greg Norman collapsed, he had to go home and think about it. when Van De Velde collapsed he had to go home and think about it.
When Spieth went home he thought about it, and then thought more about his contracts with AT&T, Under Armour, and Coke (a deal that put his brand on the same level as Lebron and Taylor Swift).
I'd love some more comments about this so if anyone agrees or disagrees, I'd love to hear it. 
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If you think these guys don't want to beat the piss out of each other I think your wrong. The days of expressing your desires may be gone with Tiger Woods era but the competitive spirit between these guys could easily been seen as if between brothers. Golfers were always pretty reserved except for a few, being gracious has always been part of the game.
I enjoy their comradery and find it refreshing and don't see it as a loss of competitive drive.
They compete with each other in more ways than just golf you see them racing go carts together and even on vacation they played some pretty hot money games.
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Alan,
Your post definitely is worth thinking about, however also take a moment to reflect on how far we've come in technology. These dudes are snap chatting a weekend of shitfaced golfing... Are you suggesting professional golfers of 10, 20, 30 years ago never drank on the course? Pretty sure snap chat was created 4 years ago. Welcome to the new world where one click of a button broadcasts u to the world for everyone to talk about. It'll only get worse. Just my take on it
Oh, and wild guess... Your not a Bernie guy. Lol
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Quote Originally Posted by Adam620:
Alan,
Alan,
Your post definitely is worth thinking about, however also take a moment to reflect on how far we've come in technology. These dudes are snap chatting a weekend of shitfaced golfing... Are you suggesting professional golfers of 10, 20, 30 years ago never drank on the course? Pretty sure snap chat was created 4 years ago. Welcome to the new world where one click of a button broadcasts u to the world for everyone to talk about. It'll only get worse. Just my take on it
Oh, and wild guess... Your not a Bernie guy. Lol
I think the biggest difference from decades ago is the huge amount of money involved in the sport (and most sports). 30 years ago there wasn't millions and millions to be made by everyone. There weren't endless lines of sponsors and endorsement deals lined up. So those guys HAD to fight each other because not everyone on tour could be rich.
In todays world they all are making tons of money. Even the guys missing the cut every week are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. I just think the amount of money in the sport has taken away the level of competition between the guys.
And I can't blame them. I would do the exact same thing.
I get the Bernie comment...lol. I like Bernie. Like most of the candidates I think he's got some good ideas and some bad ideas. But I'm always going to be a fan of someone who thinks outside the box and isn't scared to go against the grain.
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