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Quote Originally Posted by yisman:
scam book michael and bobbywaves probably worked for them You probably work at McDonalds. |
midnight318 | 32 |
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SnakeEyes11 & 18th Hole have stolen $4,500 & $4,200 from me respectively. I received payouts from both books prior to theft. So just because you're getting paid now, doesn't mean you'll be paid in the future. These books are obviously one in the same, like DSI/Bookmaker. They operate on same IP/servers using the same software. I e-mailed a formal complaint to the OTGS forum trying to rectify the situation prior to posting about it, since they have these books so highly rated there. They were no help & now believe in cahoots, since this same consequent thread was deleted in seconds there. So I'm left with no choice but to warn fellow gamblers on other forums, before falling victim to SnakeEyes11 as well. Multiple thefts from 18th Hole have been well documented on other forums, so 18th closed their Twitter account & OTGS forum had to downgrade them to remain respectability. But all their respectability is lost having SnakeEyes rated A. Just a matter of time before SnakeEyes steals from others as well. They claim to cater to professionals, yet they can only afford to pay out a max of $750 every two weeks. That should have been a red flag to me right there. Get your money out now, or be sorry later. I knew the risk/reward going in & still managed to profit more than the stolen amounts, with all the cash bonuses & arb opportunities. That's why they chose to steal from me, because I was destroying them with all their pathetic off lines. |
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Quote Originally Posted by its_1999_my:
Did you ask them if they were willing to give you the moneypak numbers instead? Yes, the first time I inquired 5D's told me they could also give me the MP # if I prefer. So after my ban I inquired again, this time another rep told me it's not an option because of possible fraud: Players claiming problems with MP #, when no problem exists. |
JackSmack | 34 |
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Quote Originally Posted by its_1999_my:
How do you know they load it at Florida? 5D's told me & agreed it may be the reason for ban. |
JackSmack | 34 |
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If 5Dimes would just give us the moneypak # in our transaction history upon withdrawal for us to load our own card, then we wouldn't be getting banned. 5D's loads our cards in Florida, we cash out in another location = red flag.
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JackSmack | 34 |
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Hear ya, Canadian checks are a pain. You can also get 1 free payout per month for $2,500 max via debit card (DCFA), right into your bank account. Then withdraw via MP's after that.
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JackSmack | 34 |
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When 5D loaded my card for $1,000, I withdrew $500 the next 2 days. Then maybe a week l8r, I requested another payout. 5D said my MP serve card deposit was denied by GD & couldn't be loaded. If you don't want to get banned, I suggest making mostly purchases. If you need cash keep withdrawals keep it small & spread them out over time, perhaps that will avoid the ban. We can only guess what triggers the red flags.
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JackSmack | 34 |
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Quote Originally Posted by DanTos8715:
ne.t spe.nd card WTF That is not on 5Dimes list of available cards. What we want to know is, what card/method on 5D list will allow more than 2 ATM withdrawals without banning you? |
JackSmack | 34 |
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The American Express Serve card 5Dimes recommends blows for cash withdrawals. Withdrew $500 twice from ATM, banned after that. You probably won't get banned if you use your card load for purchases only. Of course 5Dimes doesn't offer customers any info to avoid banning until after it happens. I just ordered another Serve card in my wife's name, & will use that for purchases only to avoid another ban. May try the Rush card, if they are not affiliated with green dot.
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JackSmack | 34 |
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Quote Originally Posted by redchecker:
He runs snakeeyes11.net with robert wavro aka bobbywaves. Leo real Name is Cesar Gonzalez. They are in Pennsylvania. They also own that stupid site onthegamblersside.com bunch of scam artists. FU chump, I only played at 18th. I was paid twice via MoneyPak b4 getting my account compromised, $4,200 was purposely lost on a +440 dog. I believe my compromise is just a different way of stiffing. I was betting arbs, trying to lose at 18th & win at my other outs. I was very successful with this for months & won way more than the $4,200 stolen. In my situation, the reward turned out to be worth the risk of playing there. With that said I can't take a chance with SnakeEyes, as they do look like a sister book of 18th hole. |
shonus13 | 73 |
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Yeah it would have been much easier if he just answered my simple question. But after much trial & error at many banks, I found TD bank to be the best. There are no fees from TD & you can do $1,000 max per withdraw. $2,500 max per day. So you only pay $6 that 7Capital charges to withdraw $2,000, not too shabby.
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take_the_money | 28 |
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I only play at 18th chump, I'll be requesting a payout myself Monday.
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shonus13 | 73 |
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DC is the best way to go, requested the max of $2,500 last Monday, funds hit bank on Friday. $40 fee was waived.
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bkcfunk | 8 |
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No, I'm not affiliated with 18th hole in any way. I only play there. I asked Leo about this guy Sperm/MikeYanks, he tells me they were caught with 4 accounts under same IP for bonus abuse. So in a lame attempt, they are now trying to use me as a scapegoat.
Now I deposited a lot at 18th, probably down 20k there. I'm sure they use my MP deposits to pay out their MP withdrawals. That's obviously not me handling payouts, ludicrous. |
shonus13 | 73 |
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Leo should know, ask him how much longer until your check arrives. Ask him why your account was closed. Let us know what he says.
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shonus13 | 73 |
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Quote Originally Posted by GIANFRANCO1114: unfortunately I had to find out today lol Find out what? |
shonus13 | 73 |
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They accept MoneyPak from everyone but you, because you sent some bogus MP's & you even did a charge back. Have no clue how you managed to buy a MP with credit card. When you play by the rules, you're treated fairly. When you don't, you're treated accordingly. |
shonus13 | 73 |
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Quote Originally Posted by take_the_money:
thanks! I found a bank that allows up to $1000 withdraw without any fee so i was only charged $3 total for the $1000 withdraw. Name of bank??
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take_the_money | 28 |
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I've been paid twice same day via MoneyPak with no issues. Not sure what OP's story is, since he's not elaborating with details.
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shonus13 | 73 |
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Quote Originally Posted by take_the_money: thanks! I found a bank that allows up to $1000 withdraw without any fee so i was only charged $3 total for the $1000 withdraw. Name of bank? |
take_the_money | 28 |
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