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Quote Originally Posted by Tappy: Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas: 8th ranked as well, Brandon Allen is one of the best QB's in the nation...It is just that a lot of people are trying to say that he is the best QB we have faced, and that is clearly not the case...Tappy:"But, but, but, stats don't lie, and Alabama faced the 37th and 29th ranked QBS, and we did really really well against them, so that means we'll do really well agsinst Cook and beat Sparty by 21" Dude... Cook is a first round QB, Brandon Allen will be a late rounder or undrafted. Is this really a real conversation? How dumb are you? This is like me arguing my Wisconsin Badgers should be in the playoffs. Seriously, that's how dumb you sound. Bama is a very talented team and I would likely take them straight up, I just think laying 10 is a lot given a healthy Cook will really test bama and MSU run D is legit. |
sugabear | 185 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Tappy: Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas: 8th ranked as well, Brandon Allen is one of the best QB's in the nation...It is just that a lot of people are trying to say that he is the best QB we have faced, and that is clearly not the case...Tappy:"But, but, but, stats don't lie, and Alabama faced the 37th and 29th ranked QBS, and we did really really well against them, so that means we'll do really well agsinst Cook and beat Sparty by 21" Dude... Brandon Allen will be a late round draft pick or go undrafted. Cook is a first round QB, why is this so difficult for you to understand? 1st round qb and 33-4 as a starter > Brandon Allen or any SEC qb... I can't believe this is even an argument. It's as dumb as me arguing my Wisconsin Badgers should be in the playoffs!! |
sugabear | 185 |
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Tappy - you keep referencing meaningless stats about offensive rankings trying to justify why Alabama will stomp MSU. Yet you fail to acknowledge:
1) Cook is a first round NFL draft pick. None of the SEC qbs you keep bringing up or anywhere near the first round. So yes, Cook will be the best qb bama has seen all year and it's not even close. 2) you obviously don't do much research otherwise you would know Cook was hurt in Iowa game with a shoulder injury in his throwing arm. By all accounts he should be back to 100% by 12/31. His health will ultimately decide the game b/c he can stretch the field and really put pressure on bamas secondary. 3) why does MSU have no DL depth? They rotate 7+ very capable players, at least 3 will play on Sunday's. Their front 7 is very stout against the run and shutdown two great RBs already (Ezekiel Elliott and Royce Freeman). 4) MSU has 4 top 15 wins and will be as healthy as they've been all year (they were down upwards of 10 starters for middle part of season). Bama was relatively healthy, has no impressive W's and lost to the best team they faced at home. MSU is also 7-1 I believe against top 10 teams lately. You do what you want but to suggest bama blows them out and MSU has no talent (top 5 3 years in a row now) is just plain dumb and incorrect. |
sugabear | 185 |
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What is the max amount you can place on a parlay at Caesars Windsor? I've seen both $1k and $200 online, does anyone know for sure?
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chitownbadger | 2 |
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Quote Originally Posted by nflcapperletsgo: So a really good player is back so automatically this play cannot be a huge, easy one to me. You are the one who needs to learn a little about betting. Enjoy losing your money on MSU buddy. I tried to help you. MSU gets back a 1st round pick who is a match-up nightmare for UM... to make this your "play of the year" is ridiculous. If you want to take UM fine, but this is hardly a can't miss spot and I'd strongly advise against betting large on this game. |
nflcapperletsgo | 37 |
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UM is going to get run out of the gym, Payne being back for this game is a huge matchup problem for the home team. If this is your "play of the year", you are a shitty gambler.
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nflcapperletsgo | 37 |
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How the hell can the refs overturn that call? not definitive evidence to overturn that out of bounds call...
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too-easy18 | 26 |
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Cleveland - good is relative I suppose, but this team would get blown out by most teams in the top 10 ( think Cuse, MSU, Kansas). SMU is a fringe tourney team and they are dismantling UC right now. Teams have let downs, but your kidding yourself if you think UC is a legit top 10 team or has a shot at the FF (not saying you are). Decent team, but surely not a good one.
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opiforreal | 8 |
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yah, I've watched them play a cpl of times now and can definitively say they aren't very good. They are a tournament team, but probably a 6-8 seed, would get destroyed by the top tier teams.
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opiforreal | 8 |
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yah, I've watched them play a cpl of times now and can definitively say they aren't very good. They are a tournament team, but probably a 6-8 seed, would get destroyed by the top tier teams.
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opiforreal | 8 |
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this is the #7 team in the country?... they don't even know how to run a basic set on offense... dear lord this is awful basketball.
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PoRToRoKPuRo | 16 |
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Hoping for the middle...
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chitownbadger | 2 |
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hahaha they sure did.
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djforester | 10 |
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bump... moron
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djforester | 10 |
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Quote Originally Posted by bense197969: For me, it's hard to imagine that South Carolina beats down UGA and then goes to LSU and wins a Saturday night game in the span of 7 days. That's it. As for the Iowa/MSU game, I don't need you to touch it with my $ because I already am touching it with my $. MSU has shown no signs of getting ready to break out, sure they played a great 2nd half vs IU, but they should've played a great full game vs that shit-squad. MSU's leader in receptions, TE Dion Sims will not be playing due to an ankle injury and the OL is beaten up bad. MSU always looks ahead to Michigan, and they've given us no reason to think other wise. Don't you think WVU -4 looks too easy? The entire free world is on them. Fair enough, just don't think LSU has the O to win. I just don't see a lot of value taking a bad team in Iowa, on the road, who lost to a shitty MAC team at home this season. Iowa has more ? marks than MSU and if you think MSU is looking ahead after dropping a turd in Bloomington then shame on Dantonio. I wouldnt feel comfortable laying 10 w/ MSU either which is why this is a no play for me... It does and the only reason it's 4 is b/c they are expecting a WVU letdown. WVUs D stinks so they must think Geno Smith is going to lay an egg, but I'll take my chances w/ the Heisman hopeful against a very mediocre Tech team.
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bense197969 | 32 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Skipster: There is nothing, absolutely nothing, to suggest that MSU is ready for a breakout game. Have you seen this offense? I have, which is why I said "definite no play". But they have a stud RB in Bell (OL is shaky but Iowa is bad). Their true freshman at WR, Burbridge, looks pretty good (8--134 yards last week in first start). And Maxwell has improved each week so I think the O will start clicking, or at least be functional, sometime soon.
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bense197969 | 32 |
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Quote Originally Posted by bense197969: Adding: LSU -2.5 why LSU? their offense is terrible, unless they score a couple times on ST or D, no way they win. Death valley at night is tough, but SC is better on both sides of the ball and I'll take the ole ball coach over les miles this weekend. As far as Iowa v MSU, wouldn't touch it w/ your $. MSU is due for a breakout game and Iowa isn't very good. MSU needs momentum heading into Ann Arbor so I expect them to come out strong. That being said, I wouldn't be shocked if Iowa won outright. This is a definite no play, much better games to bet on (WVU -4 and SC moneyline).
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bense197969 | 32 |
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MSU -14
WISC -1 MSU should crush Central Michigan. Yes, the game is @CMU but I've heard from plenty of people to expect a strong Sparty presence. Their D is top 10 in the country and should bottle up CMU all day and the September Heisman front-runner (Le'veon Bell) should have a field day. My Badgers had a slow start but I fully expect them to destroy the Beavers. I'm not going to waste w/ a long write-up but expect Ball and O'Brien to take over early and often. The D will play better and I fully expect a double digit W. To be safe, I teased... if anyone disagrees, please let me know why/what I'm missing. |
chitownbadger | 2 |
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Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34: K state is a rushing team, which means the clock runs after every play. They had an 8 minute advantage in time of possession this year. Arkansas has a bend but not break defense. Theyll make k state earn yards. I agree... but they aren't a traditional ball control running team (see vintage B1G). I suppose if they were to pick-up a bunch of 3rd downs and drain clock, it could slow the game down but that hasn't been their offensive style all year. OSU and Okla (similar passing teams to Arkansas) both put up over 50 on KSU... Not saying Arkansas will score 50+, but if they score 40+, no way it doesn't go over. |
_Gatsby_ | 27 |
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I LOVE the over in this game as well... both offenses score a lot of points and neither defense is very good at stopping what the other O does well.
Can anybody on the Under make a good case for it besides "they've been off for a month"? |
_Gatsby_ | 27 |
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