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Right, 18-1 on the College Unders since the season began. Anyone who wishes can do a Search of my college threads back to week 2, when I started posting totals. My first loss was last week, the Tenn/Ole Miss game I would not have make it a pick if I had first seen the story of the 3 players arrrested for armed robbery. Aside from the fact that one was a premier freshman defensive back (suspended until after trial) that kind of thing breaks a team's concetration, and the Vols coughed it up early, surrendering a ton of points. However, in Overs I did not do as well, to say the least. 3-6 ATS. Overall, last week I was 4-2. I am units ahead in both the college game and the NFL, also posted in threads and archived in Search, at least for a while. They should all be removed soon. Circumstances oblige me to quit posting. I do have two final plays, not Unders, I usually don't get to those until Wed or Thursday, and I won't be here then. But two sides that I like: FRESNO -11 (La Tech) 1 unit ARIZONA +6 (Oregon) 1 unit. S'long, good luck to all. |
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That's chocolate syrup with carbonated water. Sold in the candy stores of Manhattan when i was growing up. Probably a few placdes that still have it, but everthing is so gentrified there now. Maybe over in Brooklyn. Dropped back here to reply to you, pal. But any board that thinks a reasonable, non-hateful discussion like the one above is verboten, and insists I sheathe my words in sanitized wrap ---- nope. I was scramming from here anyway, early Jan, moving back to Calif. The PC police here just accelerated my departure. Best of luck to you, club. Fun while it lasted (I suspect this heavy-handed approach will chase others away - maybe an advertiser bitched) |
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yo, sugar, please remove ALL my posts from this site
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when did sugar become a mod here - what hoppen to koaj and wsc? Americans, they understood speech freedom |
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I was wondering why my thread on Jamarcus Russell had been removed to the Penalty Box. Many similar threads on race had been discussed here. Replying to the conmments on that thread, a moderator with named sugarbeets came in to give me an added warning - stop posting stuff he disagrees with, or be gone Not surprising, this company is in Canada, the PC capitol of the world And, I'm gone. Bad board to post selections anyway, amateur tout's paradise. GL to all |
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Quote Originally Posted by superbeets:
I let this go for a while but from now on lets keep it to "Quarterbacks" not white, black , yellow or pink.. Another question I have is why was this not posted in the "NFL" section of our forums. Not a good thread to have posted on the 1st page of any forum. There is not anything wrong since no racist terms were used but this can only lead to multiple boxings so its better to let you guys go at it in the box..
BUT no racist lauguage will be allowed (box or not)...period.... albeit black or white slang Ah, superbeets, you're the mod that banished this to the whacko room? I never saw you on this board before, thought it was patrolled only by koaj and wallstreetcappers. Topics of this nature are discussed all the time on this General board. If you are not aware of it, it must be because you are not here much. (And I'm supposing some outraged PC person demanded it be banned?) To put this on the NFL board would be absurd. All the lurkers and posters there are intersted in are tout plays, Games of the Year, 10 star locks, that kind of shit. (I know, I post there!!) Oh yeah, last nite there was an elevated discussion over whether Belicheck threw the game by going for the first down when he supposedly should have punted. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Pimpson:
Lets see, Oakland had to eliminate half the playbook because Russell was too dumb to learn the plays. McNabb doesn't even know the rules of the NFL, and Vince Young got a 12 or something? on the wonderlic. I'm sensing a pattern here Vince Young actually scored a 7. But Marino only scored around a 17. The highest Wonderlic scores have been nailed by kickers. Yeah, wimpy little clean uniform white guys who sit around reading books all day . . |
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Quote Originally Posted by Henry-Lilly:
Playing quarterback successfully in the NFL requires a high level of intelligence. Playing runningback in the NFL requires a high level of brawn. It's pretty simple to figure out. MiniTrue to knock on your door soon |
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Quote Originally Posted by TorontoJoey:
RUSSELL IS SHIT The Ministry of Truth does not tolerate talk like that |
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i never understood how white people think it helps black people to ignore negative patterns or just call the person who points them out racist. if i was a black athlete and had hopes of becoming a qb one day and i was faced with a history and a perception of black qb after black qb faikling to meet expectations, which option is best for me: 1. to have every ignore it and maintain the status quo 2. to call everyone who points out the obvious pattern racist and maintain the status quo 3. to explore the issue and see if it can be corrected. why do white people invariably chose options 1 and/or 2. how am i doing, luck? How are you doing? If I were to invite just one regular poster here to my old neighborhood on the Lower East Side for an egg cream and corned beef sandwich, it would be you. And I regret the teasing I did in some prior posts signoffs. Nothing rabid was meant by it. I know I come on as very opinionated - and I am on some topics - but I'm so committed to free speech that I have in the past taken a side I didn't really agree with but one that was unpopular, just to make a point. (not this time tho! I am "liberal" on some issues, but this PCism on race is reminescent of the White Rabbit in Alice in Wonderland who can "believe 10 impossible things before lunch." (Or was it the Mad Hatter?) Others here are interesting - be easy, too smart to be a pc hack, but very cautious. I don't concur with him on capitalism uncontrolled, but a rare 20s something with something to say. hugh, tho we disagree, would be interesting to exchange ideas with. Good username for him, very civilized, very "english." It could be like a timed chess match tho, each getting one minute no more to respond to the other's argument. (tho I'd probably cheat, hell I'm an American) vanzack has grey matter to burn. Knows evolutionary theory back and forward. (I've read Darwin, not too much else, except smatterings) Always good posts, and I hope he got his weed (tho it won't be the same as when you 20) Five or six others - including the mod, koaj. From Jersey (the only "New" state where you can leave off the New and it still sounds right (unlike, say, Hampshire) but so laconic that he should be from Vermont. Disgree with him also about the capitalist lords of the manor being able to regulate themselves. (And would be surprised if it was koaj who shoved this thread into the bad boy room) Others too, so when is Lou going to have a Vegas "bash". And not in the ridulous summer time there, when only desert frogs dare to out in the midday sun. Ah well, I'm gone anyway after the bowl games
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
Rick Mirer David Klingler Heath Schuler Tommy Maddox Dave Brown Jim Drunkenmiller Tim Couch Cade McNown Ryan Leaf David Carr Alex Smith Todd Marinovich Patrick Ramsey Dan McGuire Joey Harrington
Need any more?
Irrelevant, hutch. No one says that there are not a lot of white qbs who have failed. There are a lot of white and black DBs who have failed. Ditto CBs, LBs, DEs, Cs, OGs etc Again,in any high profile, high earning profession there will be a lot more failures than successes. A lot more. For every black or white singer that hits the big time, thousands of aspriants (as Amer Idol has shown) must go back to work at WalMart. And, btw, hutch, ain't you the guy who posted here once that La Reconquista in California is just another wonderful example of "diversity." Demand that your college give yu your money back for planting that in your head, in not too many years it could be dangerous to your health! (Or are you safely ensconced in the Orange Gold Coast, Bev Hills, Palos Verdes Estates and other bastions of "white supremacy?" Paz e amor, camarada. Y viva Atzlan |
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
i haven't read through this whole thing but i didn't think the point was that only black qb's fail as there are many examples of shitty white qb's with high expectations. i thought the point was the percentages, that an inordinately higher percentage of black qb's have underperformed, maybe just about all of them, except for guys with low expectations who have had better than expected like batch, wallace, and then mcnabb who was a first rounder but has had a good career overall in my opinion. moon too. so, to list the white qb's who have underperformed and the black qb's who have underperformed doesn't mean much. but to look at the percentages and see that a very high number of black qb's have underperformed must mean something. Club Dirt is a good, rational guy - I agree with him on organized religion. He believes in free speech, tho is angered by a few topics. I understand that all too well - ethnicity is often stronger than ideology (and will be so in an increasingly fractured and balkanized America). But I aver that he is a mensch, as his post here proves |
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Quote Originally Posted by Amp:
Ya wanna know who cares about all this? Black people, they are the ones who make the biggest deal out of things. Vince Young saying he will be the next black QB to win the superbowl. Tony Dungy happy that hes the first black coach to win the superbowl. NAACP protesting that their aren't enough black coaches. A team can't hire a white coach without interviewing a black one first. Heck, I believe it was Sharpton? who complained that the Astros team that went to the world series a few years ago had no blacks on the team. Could you imagine if someone said there were no whites on a basketball team? Man, what a racist he would be. Basically correct. If you maintain even a semblence of sanity in America today, you will be ostracized by the pc estab Most of the foot soldiers of PC and the assault on Americans of Caucasian persuasion are really jiust "get alongers." When the tide recedes, as it will eventually, they will cover their tracks and slide gently and incognito to the other side. They understand that in modern America, to get along you have to go along. You have to believe, as the MiniTrue inquisitor insisted Winston Smith believe, that 2 +2 = 5. You have to believe it's just unimportant coincidence that there are no black QBs of quality in NFL, nor white running backs of quality. You have to believe also that you can go out tonight in downtown Detroit and live to tell the tale. You have to believe that a thousand angels can dance on the head of a pin - and the PC masses in the Middle Ages believed just that. The foot soldiers of these absurd ideas, that there are no racial differences of significance, are really just opportunists of the moment. The masses always have a feminine outlook, they go for the stronger entity, to protect them. By going counter to the Propaganda machine you may miss out on a "good" job, or receive the opprobrium of the feminized mass, but you will be a mensch, and your children and grandchildren will know that dad and granddad stood up and said the this PC Emperor has no clothes - little fucker is buck-ass naked Lo que no me destruye me fortalece |
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The next high-hope black QB to come into the NFL will be Terrell Pryor from Ohio State ... great athlete --- should be a running back. Will an NFL team throw $60 million on the table for this guy and give him the keys at QB ... I think not !!! I'm sorry, chump. This kind of stuff is not allowed anymore on this board, by order of the Ministry of Truth. And you will be banished forever more to that PIC wasteland, never to return to civilized society. Well,not until the cracks in the American empire turn into giant fissures that suck into its maw all the outmoded and purblind propaganda that so bemuses our half-educted classes. |
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Quote Originally Posted by BDUBB:
I think the reason behind this thread is that Luck was stupid enough to draft JaMarcus, and now he can't get rid of him....... ha ha ha --- I don't play Fantasy Football. But you are on the right track. I bet only two NFL games this last week, San Fran and Oakland. The black guy pissed me off for being a stupid oaf and losing. Thank God for that even stupider white guy who gave the Niners a gift basket of picks -- dumb, evn if he did go to that brainiac school, Vandy. I appreciate his effort. |
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Quote Originally Posted by bobcat26:
I read this post not long after it was up on the board (figured I better stay out of the thread considering my past here), and the first thing that came to mind was "The Bell Curve". I read the book my freshman year of college '95, and remember keeping it tucked away so my "enlightened" college friends didn't see it. Too funny! It's 15 yrs. later and we STILL can't have an open an honest discussion on these topics. Right on. I'm reading thru this thread which I posted the other day, to reply. Came first to the Gen Discussion board, where I posted it, did not find, found it here. I have not yet seen any name-calling - certainly none of a vitupertive nature, and certainly none by me.. It's a sprited discussion. As I go thru the posts on this thread it may become ugly, and that may be why it was shoved into this board. If not, it's curious to witness unwarranted censorship on a site that has people thumbing their nose at the US Govt;s wish that offshore betting be stopped. Curious, but not all that surprising. I also have an idea as to which mod took the plunge. Someone of literary note (forgot who) once said; "All Truths Suppresed Become Poisonous." This will bear out in the next few decades.
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Quote Originally Posted by fruit20:
doug williams got a ring So have a lot of other very average QBs. Trent Dilfer got a ring ---- right, who he? |
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Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:
McNabb looked pretty good tonight with 450 Yards and 2 Touch Downs. McNabb is probably the best of the blacks who played QB in NFL, but still not in top echelon. I bet Philly in their only modern SB, when they lost but covered vs NE. In that game the best offensive player for the Eagles was TO. And he was honest enough to say after the game that Donovan puked during the game ---- likely from fear and over-excitement. Not the mark of a great. When he stopped running as much as he did when younger, he lost some of his mojo. Was great at Syracuse, tho. I don't agree with the Oxycontin Kid on very much, but he was correct on that issue. The pc press (which is ALL the Estab press) will grossly overpraise a minority in any field of endeavor. But ignore (suppress) stories of outrageous criminal attacks by same of the majority (a rapidly declning majority). |
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Quote Originally Posted by wheelerone:
Instead of saying he's another black QB that has flopped why not just say he's another top pick that has flopped? Why does the fact he's black have anything to do with it?I'm white and think this.
Why are you not mentioning Tim Couch,Ryan Leaf ,David Carr or any others ? Because none of the black QBs, however good they were in college, have shone in the NFL. I would include Moon, and so, I think would most non-pc observors of the NFL game. Bringing up the names of Couch, Leaf et al is a non-sequitur. There are an equal number of black RBs who never made it, however good they looked in college. Most aspirants to any position of wealth and fame are not going to make it, be it in sports, entertainment, theatre, whatever. ONCE MORE THO, LET ME ASK THE PC BRAINWASHED THE QUESTION I POSED A WHILE BACK: WHAT IS THE REASON THERE ARE NO WHITE RBS IN THE NFL GAME? |
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Quote Originally Posted by Ap1Bfreetorun:
Reggie Roby, I think, kicker for the Dolphins. I don't know what is wrong with Jemarcus, he was a good college QB, could really hit some passes. His problems, I believe, are due to his holdout and his inability to learn the system. Possibly because Oakland has no really good receivers, one dropped one right in his hands today. Or, maybe, that $62 million he is carrying in his hip pocket may be bothering him. I wish him well, he made me money when he was with LSU, now making me money, most of the time, to bet against him with the Raiders. Indeed, AP, he was a good college QB. Not just "another black running QB," the guy could pass. Some of what you point out may be correct. At the time he was drafted, tho, others in the Raiders organization were telling Al (well, may suggesting to him, that they pass on Russell and draft other players. Davis, tho, likes to be a contrarian trailblazer. And it worked decades ago. He was the first owner, to my recollection, to hire a black HC. When Russell interviewed with Davis, the latter said: "I like touchdowns." And Russell answered: "I like touchdowns too, Mr Davis." On that basis did Oakland make JaMarcus a mega-millionaire. As far as comments by others that the NFL is suppressing black QB talent - just the opposite is true. Like virtually all popular institutions in this country, PC is King. They's swoon with joy if a black Tom Brady or Peyton would come along. |
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