tallguyindc

Exactly! When Lynch landed at the end of the first down run there was 1:03 on the clock. When Wilson threw the pick there was 22 seconds on the clock. The OP insists that momentum is a myth but the pats were reeling and hawks had confidence. when carrol starts running wide outs in the game bill had the rights to sub under substitution rule and ref sits on the ball to allow him to sub and way too much time ran off the clock and Wilson panicked. Sad because I like Wilson but carrol needs to break out his checkbook and refund his salary.

What evidence are you talking about columbo?

Yes IDIOT that is what I am implying. Line up with the same players that got you from the 5 to the 1 and run the same play. If bill does not call a time out then you are now in the lead. Seattle had the momentum and they FUGGED UP.NOW GET OVER IT IDIOT.

f#ckwit

Yes IDIOT that is what I am implying. Line up with the same players that got you from the 5 to the 1 and run the same play. If bill does not call a time out then you are now in the lead. Seattle had the momentum and they FUGGED UP.NOW GET OVER IT IDIOT.

My strategy in that situation is simple. Take advantage of my good fortune and miraculous catch by my receiver and take the lead in the super bowl with less than a minute to play. Then use the ensuing 8 minute television timeout to figure out how to stop brady from tying the game. I am not an apologizing loser under this scenario.

Pete did him a favor by subbing which allowed bill the opportunity to sub likewise. This is where 30 seconds were burned up. You line up with the same personnel that just got you 4 yards and all you need is one and I am 99.99999999% sure it would result in a TO or a TD

This call would have been a good call in the 4th preseason game with your players trying to earn a practice squad position.

Not a winning gambler today, that's for sure. 

The gambling landscape has changed drastically in the last 10 years.  Some days I feel like I am just hanging on by fingernails to the bare minimum I need to be profitable.  But for some reason I have been handicapping the NFL much better in the last 3 years, so not packing it in yet.

GL

Ok lets lose the "worst call ever" verbiage. It was a turrrible call. You have a beast that has been able to get you a yard pretty much all season. 30 precious seconds were wasted between 1rst down and 2nd down. If you line up in a hurry you most likely force belli to burn one but if he don't then you still have at least 30 seconds left, 2 more downs and a timeout. JUST TURRRIBLE.

The counter-argument is that if you run it on second and don't get in, you HAVE to throw it on 3rd.  That puts you at a disadvantage.

You have a 3 play series.  The only way to run 3 plays with NE not knowing what you are going to do on at least one of those plays is to throw on second down.

I also am not sure what to make of Belichik not calling a timeout after the first down run by Seattle.  I am surprised.  In the end, it probably won the game for them, but I don't think it was the right thing to do.

I also thought that NE might let them score on first down.  Once again, they won the game because they didn't let them score - but with a minute left I think that is the right move.

So........... Running in for a touchdown to take a three point lead equates to a stupid decision, but throwing a pick from the 1 to end the game and assure yourself that tom cant drive the field to tie it up at the end was the right call? Darn I wish I was as smart as you.

To come to the defense of tallguyindc...

I posted this in my thread...

I don't have a problem with throwing the ball on the play everyone thinks is so dumb.  It was second down, and the real problem is that Seattle burned 2 timeouts already - so they only had one left.

You either run on 2nd and call a timeout, and then the Pats KNOW you have to throw on third down.  Or you throw on 2nd where they don't know if you run or throw, and then run on third and fourth.

You can argue the playcall itself - the slant - but I don't think you can criticize the call to pass too much.  Its not maybe what I would have done - but it certainly isn't the dumbest playcall in the history of football like everyone is making it out to be.