Spain/Germany/Holland over the field

all good

but I took Poland with adds +5000 and 5 units on it

spain won 08 euro i dont think anyone has ever repeat winner back to back at euro, also they won 2012 wc, it be crazy to think they win 2012 euro it possible but i say history helps here and i say it dont happen

i think germany or netherlands will win the cup, and since it very possible netherlands play spain or germany play spain in semis, it possible final could be spain vs netherlands like wc final, or germany vs spain

or netherlands vs unknown team not germany or spain

or germany vs unknown team not spain or netherlands

screw italy, i fancy that spain wins that group and croatia has a 50 50 shot to beat out italy for 2nd spot imo, italy might get knocked out in the group stage, i think the same for england or france, not both will get knock out in group stage, but i could see ukraine cheat their way to a 2nd place, and either england or france win the group, it a tricky group and france play england to start so if 1 of those teams lose that game if it dont end in a tie, they in last in the standings especialy if ukraine can beat sweden and they are favorites over the swedes. could win england france winner get 1st in that group and ukraine get 2nd, france vs england is a huge game i believe if 1 of them lose that game and that will happen if it not a tie, either france or england wont make the quarterfinals

what do you guys thin about netherlands in 2014? they be too old then to compete for back to back world cup finals? i am betting 50 grand on someone to win 2014 wc and i narrowed the list of teams that will win teh cup to about 5 teams, netherlands is 1 of them and only 2 of europe teams i like besides germany. but i believe by 2014 netherlands will be at end of their prime, most of their superstar players now are like 28-30 years old. they have alot of offensive talent but by then hoping it washed up

2014 wc:

brazil

argentina

uruguay

germany

1of these 4 teams will win the wc

my 2 sleepers would be netherlands and chile but i almost eliminate both them easily, netherlands i think be too old need alot of luck to make back to back wc finals, and chile is a sleeper cause they a south american team,

germany by far is the only team in 2014wc in brazil i give a legit shot to from europe. i think it probably gonna be win by brazil or argentina

everyone says how brazil is no good no more, but they still like 15-3-8 or something in their last 30 or so games which is really good they dont lose often, and sure lots of home pressure. BUT EVERY WC SINCE I BEEN BORN IN 1980 BRAZIL MAKE ATLEAST THE FINAL 8 TEAMS QUARTERFINALS, SO BASICALY WIN 3 GAMES AT HOME AND YOUR WC CHAMP SURE SOUNDS HARD, BUT ALOT OF TIMES A TEAM WILL SNEAK IN A QUARTERFINAL SO IT POSSIBLE BRAZIL COULD PLAY NIGERIA OR SOME KIND OF PUNK TEAM THEY WILL JUST CRUSH INTHE QUARTERS. THAT WOULD LEAVE 2 HARD GAMES THE SEMIS AND FINALS, MAYBE VS ARGENTINA THEN GERMANY OR URUGUAY THEN ARGENTINA OR SOMETHNG

but i think brazil, uruguay, chile, argentina, maybe even paraguay can go deep in brazil.

i still think brazil is a good team though that guy neymar is sick and he is real young they have other good players too that are young, isnt one hercules and the defense better now too

argetina for wc got steamed at 5 dimes from +680 to +445 i think now that is crazy, brazil is only lower at +365. that is shit odds for argentina

who else think brazil and germany are both better than argentina?

My final choice are:

France / Holland / Spain / Germany

1 of them to win -310

germany way over argentina, not brazil

have you ever heard about spain or holland ??? think they both have a better shot then wtf italy...same if Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas die in a crash plane tomorrow spain still a better squad then Italy

i agree im not sure italy gets out of theier group, spain is better for sure, and it a tossup between italy and croatia