I mentioned this idea to some of you already and I think it has potential so I would love to get your input and love it even more so if you like it and start using this strategy.
I follow some of the super system strategies floating around here and usually they are somewhat successful. On the other hand I have experience in betting on regular season NBA games with the simple strategy "bet on any game +300 or higher", which is quite successful. Therefore my main goal is to come up with strategies that are very easy to follow.
The idea behind my system is that in a 162 game season, all teams will streak (winning or losing alike) and unlike Golden State last season in basketball, there is a good chance that any streak will be broken in a reasonable amount of games. Looking at data from 2014 (which was conveniently available - I would love to test it for more years) the numbers say the following:
Winning streaks of more than 3 games:
4 games: 73
5 games: 46
6 games: 16
7 games: 4
8 games: 2
9 games: 5
10 games: 3
Hence more than 75% of streaks end after 6 games the latest.
Losing streaks:
4 games: 95
5 games: 26
6 games: 16
7 games: 12
8 games: 8
9 games: 1
10 games: 2
Here streaks of max 6 games make up 85% of all streaks.
I think this info is valuable as it is - but what to do with it?
My first idea was to bet on the 5th game of the streak and if I lose it, bet on the 6th to win 1 unit plus the stakes of the 5th and if I lose this again get out. I calculated some cases and this system does not seem to be profitable for a bad combination of expensive odds on long streaks.
My second plan was to play each streak till the end - I am aware that this will get expensive very quickly. But my confidence that no streak will go longer than 20 games keeps me playing it this way. Still it is important to have the required capital. Therefore I play this system with 1 unit as 1% of my bankroll. This season for test purposes I dedicated 200€ to this system and try to win 2€ per streak.
So far this season 9 streaks happened that were 4 games or longer - including a long streak of the Blue Jays losing at very expensive odds, which is the worst case. But I converted this streak into one unit as well.
Next to those 9 streaks that have already concluded there are currently also 9 streaks active. The longest is the yankees winning streak and 6 of them are exactly 4 games long, so I will bet on the the first time tonight.
Using 2014 as an example, there were 339 streaks of at least 4 games. If one would have played this system back than this would have led to 339 units profits - with stakes of 100 units.
The best part of this system is that I can co go to any standings table to identify new plays, and for those that I have started, I only have to write down how much a put on the streak already.
All in all I am pretty confident that this system could work but once again I hope for your ideas! Some questions are still on my mind about it:
- how could I predict excessively long streaks that have too much risk for the reward of one unit
- could the strength of a team (power ranking or else) be implemented in this system to predict "streak breaking abilities"?
- On which team do I bet when two streaking teams meet (2 winning streaks for example)
Well this has been more than I anticipated. Any questions?
Happy to hear your thoughts!
Tillitille
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Hey Everyone,
I mentioned this idea to some of you already and I think it has potential so I would love to get your input and love it even more so if you like it and start using this strategy.
I follow some of the super system strategies floating around here and usually they are somewhat successful. On the other hand I have experience in betting on regular season NBA games with the simple strategy "bet on any game +300 or higher", which is quite successful. Therefore my main goal is to come up with strategies that are very easy to follow.
The idea behind my system is that in a 162 game season, all teams will streak (winning or losing alike) and unlike Golden State last season in basketball, there is a good chance that any streak will be broken in a reasonable amount of games. Looking at data from 2014 (which was conveniently available - I would love to test it for more years) the numbers say the following:
Winning streaks of more than 3 games:
4 games: 73
5 games: 46
6 games: 16
7 games: 4
8 games: 2
9 games: 5
10 games: 3
Hence more than 75% of streaks end after 6 games the latest.
Losing streaks:
4 games: 95
5 games: 26
6 games: 16
7 games: 12
8 games: 8
9 games: 1
10 games: 2
Here streaks of max 6 games make up 85% of all streaks.
I think this info is valuable as it is - but what to do with it?
My first idea was to bet on the 5th game of the streak and if I lose it, bet on the 6th to win 1 unit plus the stakes of the 5th and if I lose this again get out. I calculated some cases and this system does not seem to be profitable for a bad combination of expensive odds on long streaks.
My second plan was to play each streak till the end - I am aware that this will get expensive very quickly. But my confidence that no streak will go longer than 20 games keeps me playing it this way. Still it is important to have the required capital. Therefore I play this system with 1 unit as 1% of my bankroll. This season for test purposes I dedicated 200€ to this system and try to win 2€ per streak.
So far this season 9 streaks happened that were 4 games or longer - including a long streak of the Blue Jays losing at very expensive odds, which is the worst case. But I converted this streak into one unit as well.
Next to those 9 streaks that have already concluded there are currently also 9 streaks active. The longest is the yankees winning streak and 6 of them are exactly 4 games long, so I will bet on the the first time tonight.
Using 2014 as an example, there were 339 streaks of at least 4 games. If one would have played this system back than this would have led to 339 units profits - with stakes of 100 units.
The best part of this system is that I can co go to any standings table to identify new plays, and for those that I have started, I only have to write down how much a put on the streak already.
All in all I am pretty confident that this system could work but once again I hope for your ideas! Some questions are still on my mind about it:
- how could I predict excessively long streaks that have too much risk for the reward of one unit
- could the strength of a team (power ranking or else) be implemented in this system to predict "streak breaking abilities"?
- On which team do I bet when two streaking teams meet (2 winning streaks for example)
Well this has been more than I anticipated. Any questions?
I'd like to better understand the bet progression you'd use for these streaks. You are betting that the streak ends, and you keep betting against the streak (starting after the streak reaches 4) until it ends, so you would have bet all 339 streaks in 2014 until they ended, and won 1 unit per streak.
The following is a snapshot from the 2014 season you mentioned. Kind of a worst case scenario from that year. Boston had back-to-back long streaks and Tampa Bay had one of their own. The bad part is that Tampa's 10-gamer started right after Boston's ended, and Boston went straight into a 7-gamer during Tampa's streak.
Using your bet progression, would your bankroll hold up to this, considering the simultaneous timing of the streaks? Also, these teams were favored in 20 of the 27 games, so lots of juice.
Red Sox May 15 - May 25: 10-game losing streak (Game Odds: -130, -105, -135, -115, -138, -125, -150, -105, +140, +110)
May 26 - June 01: 7-game winning streak (Game Odds: +120, -105, -140, -106, +120, -105, -160)
I'd like to better understand the bet progression you'd use for these streaks. You are betting that the streak ends, and you keep betting against the streak (starting after the streak reaches 4) until it ends, so you would have bet all 339 streaks in 2014 until they ended, and won 1 unit per streak.
The following is a snapshot from the 2014 season you mentioned. Kind of a worst case scenario from that year. Boston had back-to-back long streaks and Tampa Bay had one of their own. The bad part is that Tampa's 10-gamer started right after Boston's ended, and Boston went straight into a 7-gamer during Tampa's streak.
Using your bet progression, would your bankroll hold up to this, considering the simultaneous timing of the streaks? Also, these teams were favored in 20 of the 27 games, so lots of juice.
Red Sox May 15 - May 25: 10-game losing streak (Game Odds: -130, -105, -135, -115, -138, -125, -150, -105, +140, +110)
May 26 - June 01: 7-game winning streak (Game Odds: +120, -105, -140, -106, +120, -105, -160)
I'm thinking back testing would not go well. There has been at least one streak greater than 12 in four of the last six seasons.
Here's a 14-gamer from last year for the Indians. Heavy juice on the games considering they were so good.
Jun 17, 2016 Indians White Sox 3-2 W 102 Jun 18, 2016 Indians White Sox 13-2 W -210 Jun 19, 2016 Indians White Sox 3-2 W -162 Jun 20, 2016 Indians Rays 7-4 W -120 Jun 21, 2016 Indians Rays 6-0 W -175 Jun 22, 2016 Indians Rays 6-1 W -120 Jun 24, 2016 Indians Tigers 7-4 W -110 Jun 25, 2016 Indians Tigers 6-0 W -137 Jun 26, 2016 Indians Tigers 9-3 W 120 Jun 27, 2016 Indians Braves 8-3 W -155 Jun 28, 2016 Indians Braves 5-3 W -200 Jun 29, 2016 Indians Braves 3-0 W -220 Jun 30, 2016 Indians Blue Jays 4-1 W -115 Jul 01, 2016 Indians Blue Jays 2-1 W 125 Jul 02, 2016 Indians Blue Jays 6-9 L 155
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I'm thinking back testing would not go well. There has been at least one streak greater than 12 in four of the last six seasons.
Here's a 14-gamer from last year for the Indians. Heavy juice on the games considering they were so good.
Jun 17, 2016 Indians White Sox 3-2 W 102 Jun 18, 2016 Indians White Sox 13-2 W -210 Jun 19, 2016 Indians White Sox 3-2 W -162 Jun 20, 2016 Indians Rays 7-4 W -120 Jun 21, 2016 Indians Rays 6-0 W -175 Jun 22, 2016 Indians Rays 6-1 W -120 Jun 24, 2016 Indians Tigers 7-4 W -110 Jun 25, 2016 Indians Tigers 6-0 W -137 Jun 26, 2016 Indians Tigers 9-3 W 120 Jun 27, 2016 Indians Braves 8-3 W -155 Jun 28, 2016 Indians Braves 5-3 W -200 Jun 29, 2016 Indians Braves 3-0 W -220 Jun 30, 2016 Indians Blue Jays 4-1 W -115 Jul 01, 2016 Indians Blue Jays 2-1 W 125 Jul 02, 2016 Indians Blue Jays 6-9 L 155
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tillitille,
Tried to request you as a friend but it wouldn't let me. I'd love to discuss some MLB betting and data scraping, etc. Can you try to request me as a friend?
Hey everyone - you were absolutely right - I played the system just for fun with very good success - I was up 80% when the KC-series hit the system hard. I got out before I lost all my stakes and that was a good choice since KC lost the next two games too and I would have to put in 200% of my original bankroll just to get this system back on track.
Your predictions were on point and it didn't even need a second streak at the same time, one streak with favorite-odds was enough.
As I am still convinced this info plays out I am now trying a different approach: The data available to me still suggests that either after the 4th game of a streak the probability of ending is highest and I calculated that there would be solid profit for the following approach:
After the fourth game of a streak I play for the streak to end, if I am right I win one unit. If I am wrong I play the sixth game of the streak to get back the stakes of the first bet, so no profit then. The more probable winners are more expensive but also more probable and the less probable ones are less expensive to play but also have a smaller chance.
I will play the system as described but I will - when time permits - try to add some robustness by adding home/away as well as power rankings to the picture.
Thanks for your replies earlier and looking forward to your suggestions!
Tillitille
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Hey everyone - you were absolutely right - I played the system just for fun with very good success - I was up 80% when the KC-series hit the system hard. I got out before I lost all my stakes and that was a good choice since KC lost the next two games too and I would have to put in 200% of my original bankroll just to get this system back on track.
Your predictions were on point and it didn't even need a second streak at the same time, one streak with favorite-odds was enough.
As I am still convinced this info plays out I am now trying a different approach: The data available to me still suggests that either after the 4th game of a streak the probability of ending is highest and I calculated that there would be solid profit for the following approach:
After the fourth game of a streak I play for the streak to end, if I am right I win one unit. If I am wrong I play the sixth game of the streak to get back the stakes of the first bet, so no profit then. The more probable winners are more expensive but also more probable and the less probable ones are less expensive to play but also have a smaller chance.
I will play the system as described but I will - when time permits - try to add some robustness by adding home/away as well as power rankings to the picture.
Thanks for your replies earlier and looking forward to your suggestions!
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