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prof8t

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Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 6:40 PM ET #126

A funny thing... All of the MLB dogs at BetJamaica have a +1.5 run line, except Detroit, which has a -1.5 run line. You'd have to get a +1.5 run line through the reverse run line options. How janky is that?

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MikeyFingers

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Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 6:42 PM ET #127

This is the same thing that happened with the Toronto/Tampa Bay series and the Florida/Washington (V-3 series).

Play Detroit +1.5 or don't play them at all.

Depending on your bankroll; they're actually not a bad play on the money line with Edwin going against Penny. But as far as the system goes must play +1.5.

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nolemonasses

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Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 6:47 PM ET #128

I hear you Mikey, but I already played the DET ML cause that what was available at the time. I am not adding to that here with the RL now that I have it available, especially at -210.

If Det loses by 1, I am just gonna stop with the A loss and make it up on the next series.

GL to all.

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HotShotPicks

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Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 11:45 PM ET #129

Wait detroit fav -1.5 vs boston today

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HotShotPicks

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Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 11:46 PM ET #130

how did u guys get +1.5

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MikeyFingers

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 12:27 AM ET #131

Matchbook always offers an alternate run line. Not to mention the best available lines everyday for every game.

I got Detroit +1.5 (-195) this afternoon and I'm sure glad I did. I learned from the Toronto series and the Florida (V-3) series. When the odds are so close or flip flop always play the +1.5 line. If your books doesn't have it, get a new book or don't play it.

There's a reason most books didn't offer a +1.5 for detroit. These bookmakers really had the odds pretty sharp on this one.

Baltimore B bet tomorrow. As bad as Baltimore is, the strength of the system will piggyback them to victory.

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HotShotPicks

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 12:30 AM ET #132

Now I understand...Thx Mikey

So do I still bet on Detroit tmr or no cuz that lost any my sportsbook had them fav.

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trojanman55

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 2:06 AM ET #133

Just to make sure....

Does Baltimore qualify as a V2 play? They are the home team and lost by at least three and therefore should beat Oakland no problem. Correct?

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SRTZEE

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 7:08 AM ET #134

Yes Balt is a V2 play today, take the ML....

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usakangy

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 8:29 AM ET #135

Yes, this is supposed to be one of those "blowout" wins by Baltimore.

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SRTZEE

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 8:38 AM ET #136

The change to this new v2.0 system is that you want to increase your stake on the [B] level when these 2 criteria are met:

1. The team you’re betting on is playing at home.

2. The [A] bet that you made resulted in your team losing by 3 or more points.

Similarly, you want to increase your stake on the [C] level when these 2 criteria are met:

1. The team you’re betting on is playing at home.

2. The [B] bet that you made resulted in your team losing by 3 or more points.

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Jeff_Kent

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 9:32 AM ET #137

Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

Oh, and surprise surprise. The Betus scam on JM NBA odds applies to MLB too. I have an account with them that I never use anymore after discovering on my own about the scam about 2 weeks after I opened an account with them last January.

I just checked the DET/Boston, OAK/Balt odds.

They CHANGE AGAINST your favor after you log in.

Baltimore is -165 not logged in, -190 logged in.

Detroit is -105 not logged in, -135 logged in.

ALL OTHER GAMES DON'T CHANGE WHEN NOT LOGGED IN VS. LOGGED IN.

What a scumbag JM type company. I hate those bastards. So glad I picked up on that early on.

I got Balt at -165 early yesterday morning and Det at -135. This is at BetUS. I am registered under the JM promo code.

As I explained in an earlier post on a different thread, at BetUS, JM people are placed into their own betting pool. The odds in this pool start out the same as the line at the rest of BetUS. However, the JM betting pool lines run independently from the rest of BetUS. The results of this is that the JM system picks start running against the JM people as all the action tends to be on the JM picks.

This post is not intended to be a defense of anything or a justification. I simply post this to let people know what is going on. As a member of the JM betting pool at BetUS, of course I am very unhappy with the situation.

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nolemonasses

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 11:02 AM ET #138

I agree jeff, I was just saying that it was originally discovered in the NBA odds. So, no surprise that it is going on in the MLB too.

The Baltimore B V2 tonight has me paranoid after blowing the Detroit bet last night by not getting the +1.5.

I really don't want to double up and then have to go to a C level Wed.

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MikeyFingers

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 1:28 PM ET #139

I know it sucks laying so much cash but----BALTIMORE WILL WIN TONIGHT!

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S_A_I_N_T_S

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 1:38 PM ET #140

Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_Kent:

I got Balt at -165 early yesterday morning and Det at -135. This is at BetUS. I am registered under the JM promo code.

As I explained in an earlier post on a different thread, at BetUS, JM people are placed into their own betting pool. The odds in this pool start out the same as the line at the rest of BetUS. However, the JM betting pool lines run independently from the rest of BetUS. The results of this is that the JM system picks start running against the JM people as all the action tends to be on the JM picks.

This post is not intended to be a defense of anything or a justification. I simply post this to let people know what is going on. As a member of the JM betting pool at BetUS, of course I am very unhappy with the situation.

Then why don't you move your action to matchbook or another site since the lines are always better

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Jeff_Kent

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 1:45 PM ET #141

Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:

Then why don't you move your action to matchbook or another site since the lines are always better

Wow! Thanks for the tip! I never thought of it.

Problem is, because I took the bait, I mean the bonus, I can't move (cash out) until I play through the required minimum wagers. As soon as I can get free of BetUS, I'm gone--if I have any money left.

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S_A_I_N_T_S

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 1:57 PM ET #142

Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_Kent:

Wow! Thanks for the tip! I never thought of it.

Problem is, because I took the bait, I mean the bonus, I can't move (cash out) until I play through the required minimum wagers. As soon as I can get free of BetUS, I'm gone--if I have any money left.

Get through those plays as quickly as possible (with the money of course). I say that because this has been my first season at MB and the money difference is huge simply b/c of the juice. I used to get 10 cent worse lines minimum on most of my wagers and it certainly hurt my bankroll.

I now keep 4-5 different accounts and always play where the best line is. I was educated so I just wanted to pass it on man.

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MontanaMax

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 7:36 PM ET #143

Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_Kent:

Wow! Thanks for the tip! I never thought of it.

Problem is, because I took the bait, I mean the bonus, I can't move (cash out) until I play through the required minimum wagers. As soon as I can get free of BetUS, I'm gone--if I have any money left.

Whoa whoa whoa man........
Check it... What's done is done...
But you got to get out asap......
This is what I did
I opened an account at BetUS and shortly after closed it out with no problems.
DON'T TAKE THE BONUS
At one point JM wouldn't give you his picks until you opened an account with them if I recall
Just use a different sportsbook
You will get better spreads

DON'T BELIEVE ME ASK LIPPSMAN

He had a great post showing how BETUS shaves spreads in NBA just enough against JM games where it effects your win / loss outcome and pending how you wager if you don't follow through correctly then give up. And they love that from all the amateurs
MLB is also sucks sometimes as in yesterday
Bos was the fav yet had the +1.5/ line
Det was the dog and had the -1.5/ line
Det opened as a dog but the books know what's going on
Only you would of yesterday if you got Det at +1.5/ alt. line

As soon as everyone can get out of BETUS
There is also wide spread payout problems
There are too many better books out there

Such as:
Diamond
Betjamaica
5Dimes
Bookmaker
Wagerweb
Matchbook
Pinnacle (non-usa)

I am sure other books are good too.
Anyway never take a bonus - it only locks you in to play with them
Have $$$ in different accounts to shop the best spread or line
Good luck man

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ketut

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 9:42 PM ET #144

Quote Originally Posted by prof8t:

A funny thing... All of the MLB dogs at BetJamaica have a +1.5 run line, except Detroit, which has a -1.5 run line. You'd have to get a +1.5 run line through the reverse run line options. How janky is that?

Yesterday bet with Detroit(Monday), I use 5 sites BetJam,TheGreek,Wsex,5Dimes, and Linesmaker and NONE of them had Detroit +1.5

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on3

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 10:03 PM ET #145

Quote Originally Posted by ketut:

Yesterday bet with Detroit(Monday), I use 5 sites BetJam,TheGreek,Wsex,5Dimes, and Linesmaker and NONE of them had Detroit +1.5

5dimes had a +1.5 as an alternate line at -200

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chicano1

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 11:40 PM ET #146

SO WILL

COLORADO & TEXAS FALL INTO ONE OF THOSE

AFTERMARKET VERSIONS ?????????????????

JUST WONDERING IF THEY MEET THE NEW REQUIREMENTS ???????

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JoeMoney1440

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Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 11:45 PM ET #147

So with Detroit going down... should we look for an Alt line possible? +2½ since they are playing against Beckett?

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hoop121

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Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 12:34 AM ET #148

Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_Kent:

Wow! Thanks for the tip! I never thought of it.

Problem is, because I took the bait, I mean the bonus, I can't move (cash out) until I play through the required minimum wagers. As soon as I can get free of BetUS, I'm gone--if I have any money left.

what I liked to do was wait for the betus line to get so blown out that i would play the opposite of morrison at betus and then play morrison's picks at my local bookie or another website. that way i was getting a free $5-$10 margin and if the morrison's pick one i was getting the money out of the betus account for free. no bonus rollovers and no withdrawel fees.