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    MLB 2-team underdog parlay system

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    jaker122
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2019 - 11:24 AM ET #1

    Grettings everyone,

    Apologies for the delay in getting this thread off the ground. I had mentioned in another thread how I'm interested in running a 2-team MLB parlay system that would involve betting on the two best underdogs each day. We will use a combination of Tony Stoffos' system for determining the two best underdogs and his 2-team parlay progression money management system.

    1. Eliminate any games in which the moneyline odds are greater than +150

    2. Eliminate any games in which the underdog has lost 3 or more games in a row or the favorite has won 3 or more games in a row.

    3. Eliminate any games in which the favored team's pitcher is among the top 20 of the AL or NL in FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching). Fangraphs is good at updating those pitching leaders. I think I'll use the 2018 league leaders in FIP for the first month of the season, and then switch to 2019 leaders starting on May 1. The original system calls for using NPERA numbers from Jeff Sagarin, but I'm going with FIP since that's what I'm most familiar with. I think the general concept of both stats is very similar.

    After filtering out potential dogs using these criteria, we'll parlay the two teams with the strongest odds. I'd like to stick to teams that are at or north of +100 but not too far north. There will certainly be days where there is no play and I'd like to avoid including teams with too long of odds to both win.

    The Stoffos system also calls for taking the under in games where both pitchers are in the top 20 of their respective leagues. I thought about tying this into our system as well but am going to omit it for the time being, for simplicity's sake. If things seem to be off to a rocky start I might include it later on.

    We will run our progression chase by betting the following units. A win at any point restarts the chase and a system loss would also restart it:

    1u, 2u, 3u, 5u, 8u, 12u, 18u, 25u   (total 74 unit risk for each chase)

    Since we are betting slight underdogs our parlays will typically pay out in the neighborhood of 3-to-1. There will obviously be a lot more losses than wins, but we don't need to win a majority to be profitable, as DanRules' NHL road parlay system has shown over the years.

    I welcome any feedback. This is a completely untested system, but I wanted to give something a try this season. We'll look to get started with Thursday's slate of Opening Day games.

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    Grettings everyone,

    Apologies for the delay in getting this thread off the ground. I had mentioned in another thread how I'm interested in running a 2-team MLB parlay system that would involve betting on the two best underdogs each day. We will use a combination of Tony Stoffos' system for determining the two best underdogs and his 2-team parlay progression money management system.

    1. Eliminate any games in which the moneyline odds are greater than +150

    2. Eliminate any games in which the underdog has lost 3 or more games in a row or the favorite has won 3 or more games in a row.

    3. Eliminate any games in which the favored team's pitcher is among the top 20 of the AL or NL in FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching). Fangraphs is good at updating those pitching leaders. I think I'll use the 2018 league leaders in FIP for the first month of the season, and then switch to 2019 leaders starting on May 1. The original system calls for using NPERA numbers from Jeff Sagarin, but I'm going with FIP since that's what I'm most familiar with. I think the general concept of both stats is very similar.

    After filtering out potential dogs using these criteria, we'll parlay the two teams with the strongest odds. I'd like to stick to teams that are at or north of +100 but not too far north. There will certainly be days where there is no play and I'd like to avoid including teams with too long of odds to both win.

    The Stoffos system also calls for taking the under in games where both pitchers are in the top 20 of their respective leagues. I thought about tying this into our system as well but am going to omit it for the time being, for simplicity's sake. If things seem to be off to a rocky start I might include it later on.

    We will run our progression chase by betting the following units. A win at any point restarts the chase and a system loss would also restart it:

    1u, 2u, 3u, 5u, 8u, 12u, 18u, 25u   (total 74 unit risk for each chase)

    Since we are betting slight underdogs our parlays will typically pay out in the neighborhood of 3-to-1. There will obviously be a lot more losses than wins, but we don't need to win a majority to be profitable, as DanRules' NHL road parlay system has shown over the years.

    I welcome any feedback. This is a completely untested system, but I wanted to give something a try this season. We'll look to get started with Thursday's slate of Opening Day games.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2019 - 2:31 PM ET #2

    the only feedback i'd have, would be to consider a slower, more gradual and longer chase since the lowest a 2-team dog payout could be is on two teams that are +105 each. 

    a $20 bet would yield $64.05

    a $25 bet on the b game would yield, again w/ both at +105, would pay $80.06, net of the 'a' game loss of $20, that's $60.06 which is still a 3 unit win. 

    $30 on the 'c' game would yield $96.07, minus $45 for a & b losses, is a $51.07 win on the chase.  or roughly 2.5units

    $40 on the 'd' game would yield $128.10, minus $75 for prior 3 losses is still a $53.10 win on the chase.  still, roughly 2.5 units

    point is, i played 4 games to get to "2x" whereas your progression jumped there fast, and still yielded over 2.5 units.

    *all above assume +105 on both teams.  payouts could be hire depending on odds.

    i'll try to quickly run it to pay approx 2.5 on the chase:

    $55 would pay $176.14 minus $115 = $61.14 (over 3 units)

    $70 would pay $224.18 minus $170 = $54.18 (roughly 2.5 units)

    $95 would pay $304.24 minus $240 = $64.24 (over 3 units)

    so continuing my above point, i've gotten to play 7 games and i'm not even at "5x" where you are with your progression on game 4, all while still yielding between 2.5 and 3 units.  and again, that's using the lowest possible "dog" number of +105 on both teams

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    the only feedback i'd have, would be to consider a slower, more gradual and longer chase since the lowest a 2-team dog payout could be is on two teams that are +105 each. 

    a $20 bet would yield $64.05

    a $25 bet on the b game would yield, again w/ both at +105, would pay $80.06, net of the 'a' game loss of $20, that's $60.06 which is still a 3 unit win. 

    $30 on the 'c' game would yield $96.07, minus $45 for a & b losses, is a $51.07 win on the chase.  or roughly 2.5units

    $40 on the 'd' game would yield $128.10, minus $75 for prior 3 losses is still a $53.10 win on the chase.  still, roughly 2.5 units

    point is, i played 4 games to get to "2x" whereas your progression jumped there fast, and still yielded over 2.5 units.

    *all above assume +105 on both teams.  payouts could be hire depending on odds.

    i'll try to quickly run it to pay approx 2.5 on the chase:

    $55 would pay $176.14 minus $115 = $61.14 (over 3 units)

    $70 would pay $224.18 minus $170 = $54.18 (roughly 2.5 units)

    $95 would pay $304.24 minus $240 = $64.24 (over 3 units)

    so continuing my above point, i've gotten to play 7 games and i'm not even at "5x" where you are with your progression on game 4, all while still yielding between 2.5 and 3 units.  and again, that's using the lowest possible "dog" number of +105 on both teams

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2019 - 2:33 PM ET #3

    Best of luck! Just an FYI, with the parlay winnings being at a 3-1 minimum, your minimum payouts of the progression look like this:

    Game 1: 3 units
    Game 2: 5 units
    Game 3: 6 units
    Game 4: 9 units
    Game 5: 13 units
    Game 6: 17 units
    Game 7: 23 units
    Game 8: 26 units

    I'm personally going to track your picks using a betting progression of making up previous losses plus a 3 unit profit. Will be interesting to compare as we go forward. Play Ball!!!

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Best of luck! Just an FYI, with the parlay winnings being at a 3-1 minimum, your minimum payouts of the progression look like this:

    Game 1: 3 units
    Game 2: 5 units
    Game 3: 6 units
    Game 4: 9 units
    Game 5: 13 units
    Game 6: 17 units
    Game 7: 23 units
    Game 8: 26 units

    I'm personally going to track your picks using a betting progression of making up previous losses plus a 3 unit profit. Will be interesting to compare as we go forward. Play Ball!!!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2019 - 2:34 PM ET #4

    Apparently Dutch and I had the same thought on betting and were posting at same time. Hahahaha
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    Apparently Dutch and I had the same thought on betting and were posting at same time. Hahahaha
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2019 - 2:36 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Apparently Dutch and I had the same thought on betting and were posting at same time. Hahahaha

    yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Apparently Dutch and I had the same thought on betting and were posting at same time. Hahahaha

    yep.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2019 - 2:56 PM ET #6

    It all comes down to Risk vs. Reward.  As Dan says it will be interesting to compare.  As this is the inaugural season I would tend to lean on the conservative side with Dan and Dutch. 

    Looking forward to making some money with everyone, good luck all!

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    It all comes down to Risk vs. Reward.  As Dan says it will be interesting to compare.  As this is the inaugural season I would tend to lean on the conservative side with Dan and Dutch. 

    Looking forward to making some money with everyone, good luck all!

    peace_5peace

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Best of luck! Just an FYI, with the parlay winnings being at a 3-1 minimum, your minimum payouts of the progression look like this:Game 1: 3 unitsGame 2: 5 unitsGame 3: 6 unitsGame 4: 9 unitsGame 5: 13 unitsGame 6: 17 unitsGame 7: 23 unitsGame 8: 26 unitsI'm personally going to track your picks using a betting progression of making up previous losses plus a 3 unit profit. Will be interesting to compare as we go forward. Play Ball!!!

    My thinking was similar to your NHL road system where we are not only trying to make up previous losses, but also pick up each play's units of profit that we missed out on along the way. Or do you think this is going to be too aggressive for this particular system? I'm definitely open to adjusting the progression. The one I posted is just copy and pasted from the Stoffos money management model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Best of luck! Just an FYI, with the parlay winnings being at a 3-1 minimum, your minimum payouts of the progression look like this:Game 1: 3 unitsGame 2: 5 unitsGame 3: 6 unitsGame 4: 9 unitsGame 5: 13 unitsGame 6: 17 unitsGame 7: 23 unitsGame 8: 26 unitsI'm personally going to track your picks using a betting progression of making up previous losses plus a 3 unit profit. Will be interesting to compare as we go forward. Play Ball!!!

    My thinking was similar to your NHL road system where we are not only trying to make up previous losses, but also pick up each play's units of profit that we missed out on along the way. Or do you think this is going to be too aggressive for this particular system? I'm definitely open to adjusting the progression. The one I posted is just copy and pasted from the Stoffos money management model.

     
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    GL  Jaker122.
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2019 - 5:21 PM ET #9

    Just spitballing: Here's a slightly more conservative progression model that would still reward us for wins late in the chase:

    1u, 2u, 3u, 5u, 7u, 10u, 14u, 20u

    That's an 8-game chase with a 62-unit total risk, which is down from the 74 units I initially posted. In the later portion of the chase the profit would still be around 2 units multiplied by the number of losses up to that point of the chase.

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    Just spitballing: Here's a slightly more conservative progression model that would still reward us for wins late in the chase:

    1u, 2u, 3u, 5u, 7u, 10u, 14u, 20u

    That's an 8-game chase with a 62-unit total risk, which is down from the 74 units I initially posted. In the later portion of the chase the profit would still be around 2 units multiplied by the number of losses up to that point of the chase.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2019 - 5:40 PM ET #10

    P.S. That’s assuming an average payout of 3-to-1.
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    P.S. That’s assuming an average payout of 3-to-1.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaker122:

    My thinking was similar to your NHL road system where we are not only trying to make up previous losses, but also pick up each play's units of profit that we missed out on along the way. Or do you think this is going to be too aggressive for this particular system? I'm definitely open to adjusting the progression. The one I posted is just copy and pasted from the Stoffos money management model.


    How you set up your betting progression for this system is your call, I didn't mean to muck things up with my post. With the Stoffo progression, the profit upside is higher but so is the risk. Without a history to this system hard to say what to do. I tend to be a little more conservative and grind out profits, but that's just me. Your revised 62 unit progression looks pretty good to me though. 

    I'd say just pick a method and adjust if need be. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaker122:

    My thinking was similar to your NHL road system where we are not only trying to make up previous losses, but also pick up each play's units of profit that we missed out on along the way. Or do you think this is going to be too aggressive for this particular system? I'm definitely open to adjusting the progression. The one I posted is just copy and pasted from the Stoffos money management model.


    How you set up your betting progression for this system is your call, I didn't mean to muck things up with my post. With the Stoffo progression, the profit upside is higher but so is the risk. Without a history to this system hard to say what to do. I tend to be a little more conservative and grind out profits, but that's just me. Your revised 62 unit progression looks pretty good to me though. 

    I'd say just pick a method and adjust if need be. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2019 - 10:25 PM ET #12

    I think I am going to use the 62 unit progression for this system. I will be back tomorrow with my first play of the season. Going to use odds from BetOnline since they have low juice on baseball.
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    I think I am going to use the 62 unit progression for this system. I will be back tomorrow with my first play of the season. Going to use odds from BetOnline since they have low juice on baseball.
     
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    Alright, here we go. For this thread, we are going to bet $10 units and have a starting bankroll of $1,250. That's enough to cover two system losses right out of the gate, although we certainly hope that doesn't happen.

    Starting bankroll: $1,250

    Current bankroll: $1,250

    Thursday's play: Los Angeles Angels (+105) and Chicago White Sox (-101); $10 to win $30.80

     

    I think there's going to be a lot of instances where we come across teams that are -101 or -102. For this system I am going to consider those qualifying underdogs, albeit just barely. We'll stop at -102, though.

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    Alright, here we go. For this thread, we are going to bet $10 units and have a starting bankroll of $1,250. That's enough to cover two system losses right out of the gate, although we certainly hope that doesn't happen.

    Starting bankroll: $1,250

    Current bankroll: $1,250

    Thursday's play: Los Angeles Angels (+105) and Chicago White Sox (-101); $10 to win $30.80

     

    I think there's going to be a lot of instances where we come across teams that are -101 or -102. For this system I am going to consider those qualifying underdogs, albeit just barely. We'll stop at -102, though.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2019 - 9:40 AM ET #14

    Thursday loss

    Starting bankroll: $1,250

    Current bankroll: $1,240

    Friday's Game 2 play: Detroit (+119) and Oakland (+105); $20 to win 69.80
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    Starting bankroll: $1,250

    Current bankroll: $1,240

    Friday's Game 2 play: Detroit (+119) and Oakland (+105); $20 to win 69.80
     
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    Good luck! i will definitly follow!

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    Good luck! i will definitly follow!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2019 - 10:08 AM ET #16

    Friday loss

    Starting BR: $1,250

    Current BR: $1,220

    Saturday we are on LAA (+103) and Tampa Bay (+100); 30 to win 91.80.
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    Friday loss

    Starting BR: $1,250

    Current BR: $1,220

    Saturday we are on LAA (+103) and Tampa Bay (+100); 30 to win 91.80.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaker122:

    Grettings everyone, Apologies for the delay in getting this thread off the ground. I had mentioned in another thread how I'm interested in running a 2-team MLB parlay system that would involve betting on the two best underdogs each day. We will use a combination of Tony Stoffos' system for determining the two best underdogs and his 2-team parlay progression money management system. 1. Eliminate any games in which the moneyline odds are greater than +150 2. Eliminate any games in which the underdog has lost 3 or more games in a row or the favorite has won 3 or more games in a row. 3. Eliminate any games in which the favored team's pitcher is among the top 20 of the AL or NL in FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching). Fangraphs is good at updating those pitching leaders. I think I'll use the 2018 league leaders in FIP for the first month of the season, and then switch to 2019 leaders starting on May 1. The original system calls for using NPERA numbers from Jeff Sagarin, but I'm going with FIP since that's what I'm most familiar with. I think the general concept of both stats is very similar. After filtering out potential dogs using these criteria, we'll parlay the two teams with the strongest odds. I'd like to stick to teams that are at or north of +100 but not too far north. There will certainly be days where there is no play and I'd like to avoid including teams with too long of odds to both win. The Stoffos system also calls for taking the under in games where both pitchers are in the top 20 of their respective leagues. I thought about tying this into our system as well but am going to omit it for the time being, for simplicity's sake. If things seem to be off to a rocky start I might include it later on. We will run our progression chase by betting the following units. A win at any point restarts the chase and a system loss would also restart it: 1u, 2u, 3u, 5u, 8u, 12u, 18u, 25u   (total 74 unit risk for each chase) Since we are betting slight underdogs our parlays will typically pay out in the neighborhood of 3-to-1. There will obviously be a lot more losses than wins, but we don't need to win a majority to be profitable, as DanRules' NHL road parlay system has shown over the years. I welcome any feedback. This is a completely untested system, but I wanted to give something a try this season. We'll look to get started with Thursday's slate of Opening Day games.

    is this the site you are using to check the top 20 pitchers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaker122:

    Grettings everyone, Apologies for the delay in getting this thread off the ground. I had mentioned in another thread how I'm interested in running a 2-team MLB parlay system that would involve betting on the two best underdogs each day. We will use a combination of Tony Stoffos' system for determining the two best underdogs and his 2-team parlay progression money management system. 1. Eliminate any games in which the moneyline odds are greater than +150 2. Eliminate any games in which the underdog has lost 3 or more games in a row or the favorite has won 3 or more games in a row. 3. Eliminate any games in which the favored team's pitcher is among the top 20 of the AL or NL in FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching). Fangraphs is good at updating those pitching leaders. I think I'll use the 2018 league leaders in FIP for the first month of the season, and then switch to 2019 leaders starting on May 1. The original system calls for using NPERA numbers from Jeff Sagarin, but I'm going with FIP since that's what I'm most familiar with. I think the general concept of both stats is very similar. After filtering out potential dogs using these criteria, we'll parlay the two teams with the strongest odds. I'd like to stick to teams that are at or north of +100 but not too far north. There will certainly be days where there is no play and I'd like to avoid including teams with too long of odds to both win. The Stoffos system also calls for taking the under in games where both pitchers are in the top 20 of their respective leagues. I thought about tying this into our system as well but am going to omit it for the time being, for simplicity's sake. If things seem to be off to a rocky start I might include it later on. We will run our progression chase by betting the following units. A win at any point restarts the chase and a system loss would also restart it: 1u, 2u, 3u, 5u, 8u, 12u, 18u, 25u   (total 74 unit risk for each chase) Since we are betting slight underdogs our parlays will typically pay out in the neighborhood of 3-to-1. There will obviously be a lot more losses than wins, but we don't need to win a majority to be profitable, as DanRules' NHL road parlay system has shown over the years. I welcome any feedback. This is a completely untested system, but I wanted to give something a try this season. We'll look to get started with Thursday's slate of Opening Day games.

    is this the site you are using to check the top 20 pitchers?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2019 - 1:26 PM ET #18

    kay the link did not appear... i will pm you instead.

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    kay the link did not appear... i will pm you instead.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2019 - 9:29 AM ET #19

    Saturday loss

    Starting bankroll: $1,250

    Current bankroll: $1,190

    Sunday’s Game 4 play is Chicago White Sox (-101) and Oakland (-102); $50 to win $147.10

    That Oakland/LAA Series has killed us Opening Week. Hopefully that changes today.
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    Starting bankroll: $1,250

    Current bankroll: $1,190

    Sunday’s Game 4 play is Chicago White Sox (-101) and Oakland (-102); $50 to win $147.10

    That Oakland/LAA Series has killed us Opening Week. Hopefully that changes today.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2019 - 9:30 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by castorjouflu:

    is this the site you are using to check the top 20 pitchers?


    I’m using Fangraphs leaders for FIP. Doing 2018 leaders for now but will switch to 2019 leaders in a month or so.
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    is this the site you are using to check the top 20 pitchers?


    I’m using Fangraphs leaders for FIP. Doing 2018 leaders for now but will switch to 2019 leaders in a month or so.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaker122:

    Saturday lossStarting bankroll: $1,250Current bankroll: $1,190Sunday’s Game 4 play is Chicago White Sox (-101) and Oakland (-102); $50 to win $147.10That Oakland/LAA Series has killed us Opening Week. Hopefully that changes today.

     

    Great work Jaker!

    an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaker122:

    Saturday lossStarting bankroll: $1,250Current bankroll: $1,190Sunday’s Game 4 play is Chicago White Sox (-101) and Oakland (-102); $50 to win $147.10That Oakland/LAA Series has killed us Opening Week. Hopefully that changes today.

     

    Great work Jaker!

    an_cheers

     
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    Nice hit Jaker.
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    Nice hit Jaker.
     
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    Very good man!

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    Very good man!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaker122:

    Saturday loss

    Starting bankroll: $1,250

    Current bankroll: $1,190

    Sunday’s Game 4 play is Chicago White Sox (-101) and Oakland (-102); $50 to win $147.10


    Congratulations on your inaugural WIN    

    The ML flip flopped on this twin WIN ....value lost, value gained...

    CHW +105
    OAK -120   

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    Saturday loss

    Starting bankroll: $1,250

    Current bankroll: $1,190

    Sunday’s Game 4 play is Chicago White Sox (-101) and Oakland (-102); $50 to win $147.10


    Congratulations on your inaugural WIN    

    The ML flip flopped on this twin WIN ....value lost, value gained...

    CHW +105
    OAK -120   

    Westgate SuperBook.lv
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2019 - 11:06 AM ET #25

    Thanks everyone! That's our first win of the season.

    Current bankroll: $1,337.10

    Starting bankroll: $1,250

     

    Monday Game 1: Cincinnati (+100) and Seattle (+100); $10 to win $30

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    Thanks everyone! That's our first win of the season.

    Current bankroll: $1,337.10

    Starting bankroll: $1,250

     

    Monday Game 1: Cincinnati (+100) and Seattle (+100); $10 to win $30

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