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stickbit

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Posted: May. 15, 2012 - 10:56 PM ET #1651

Some of us DON'T double up...I use labby lines dude.

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SoCal311

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Posted: May. 15, 2012 - 11:09 PM ET #1652

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bettor2win

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Posted: May. 15, 2012 - 11:19 PM ET #1653

Quote Originally Posted by BigTenWatto:

What do you mean I don't know what I'm talking about? The math speaks for itself. Now tomorrow you have to

win back the $866 plus the $100 you originally wanted. The juice as it stands now is -235. So tomorrow you have to lay $2270! LOL, no one following this website is putting down that kind of money on one game - if you were, you wouldn't be reading websites, you'd be living in suites in Vegas.

$866??? Wow! that's a lot of LOOT! Glad I'm not as stupid as the people who go to Vegas like you. BTW, Vegas wasn't built on winners.

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choe20

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Posted: May. 15, 2012 - 11:39 PM ET #1654

Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

$866??? Wow! that's a lot of LOOT! Glad I'm not as stupid as the people who go to Vegas like you. BTW, Vegas wasn't built on winners.

Hes right though B2W, mathematically speaking in a sense if you were playing the 3 games and chasing each one in addition to what you're trying to win from each series.

From what i played:

TEX A (-205) $100

= -205

TEX B (-250) $305

= -762.5

= - $967.5

and so on.

As much as I respect the system and have been doing well minus the past week with some adjustments, he's not "stupid" for putting that much money down. My bankroll is 16,500$. Am I stupid for chasing each series with $500? What you should be asking is what his bankroll is invested into this system and asking what percentage hes risking on each series from it. Money doesn't matter in this, its percentages.

Also a heads up, for anyone (and I hope everyone knows) Todd Fuhrman. I will be writing an article for him on his website regarding this system and the long term success of it with added filters. I'll make sure to post the link, and obviously credit will be given to B2W for reasons that its not my system. However, I see some simple factors to creating long term success with this system which will be noted in the article.

No one should panic. This has backtracked success for over several seasons. Block out the psychological factors that will occur in this and risk a starting bankroll of money you're willing to give up.

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bettor2win

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 12:43 AM ET #1655

Quote Originally Posted by choe20:

Hes right though B2W, mathematically speaking in a sense if you were playing the 3 games and chasing each one in addition to what you're trying to win from each series.

From what i played:

TEX A (-205) $100

= -205

TEX B (-250) $305

= -762.5

= - $967.5

and so on.

As much as I respect the system and have been doing well minus the past week with some adjustments, he's not "stupid" for putting that much money down. My bankroll is 16,500$. Am I stupid for chasing each series with $500? What you should be asking is what his bankroll is invested into this system and asking what percentage hes risking on each series from it. Money doesn't matter in this, its percentages.

Also a heads up, for anyone (and I hope everyone knows) Todd Fuhrman. I will be writing an article for him on his website regarding this system and the long term success of it with added filters. I'll make sure to post the link, and obviously credit will be given to B2W for reasons that its not my system. However, I see some simple factors to creating long term success with this system which will be noted in the article.

No one should panic. This has backtracked success for over several seasons. Block out the psychological factors that will occur in this and risk a starting bankroll of money you're willing to give up.

Here's the problem choe20, it's not that he is not correct, but it's the fact he came in attacking and posting negatively. The fact is, WE ALL KNOW THE RISK in chase systems. Especially this one with such high juice. He's not giving us any information we do not understand. He's only here for an argument. What positive thing did he (bigtenwatto) post? Please tell me?

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. If someone comes in here posting negatively, I gotta go to bat for my fellow bettors. I'm starting to hear so much negativity that I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't the covers.com experts trying to get us out of here and into thier pockets. I mean look at you choe20, a new member since 2012 with 19 posts. HMMMM????? So you JUST JUMPED ON BOARD LAST MONTH AND STARTED BLINDLY BETTING THIS SYSTEM? And you saw my mistake of starting the system too early??? That's 2 losses right out the gate and you still follow? Come on. Personally, I would be stupid to just find a system last month, loses 2X and continue on board betting $500 a game at -200 juice, and now you have the experience to write about it? Hell, at least BigTenWatto has been around a while. How much backtesting DO YOU REALLY KNOW? Have you done any? NOPE.

And yes, only bet with money you are willing to lose.

Man, soon I will have the L.A. Times and Wall Street Journal knocking on my door.

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Quote Originally Posted by choe20:

Hes right though B2W, mathematically speaking in a sense if you were playing the 3 games and chasing each one in addition to what you're trying to win from each series.

From what i played:

TEX A (-205) $100

= -205

TEX B (-250) $305

= -762.5

= - $967.5

and so on.

As much as I respect the system and have been doing well minus the past week with some adjustments, he's not "stupid" for putting that much money down. My bankroll is 16,500$. Am I stupid for chasing each series with $500? What you should be asking is what his bankroll is invested into this system and asking what percentage hes risking on each series from it. Money doesn't matter in this, its percentages.

Also a heads up, for anyone (and I hope everyone knows) Todd Fuhrman. I will be writing an article for him on his website regarding this system and the long term success of it with added filters. I'll make sure to post the link, and obviously credit will be given to B2W for reasons that its not my system. However, I see some simple factors to creating long term success with this system which will be noted in the article.

No one should panic. This has backtracked success for over several seasons. Block out the psychological factors that will occur in this and risk a starting bankroll of money you're willing to give up.

Here's the problem choe20, it's not that he is not correct, but it's the fact he came in attacking and posting negatively. The fact is, WE ALL KNOW THE RISK in chase systems. Especially this one with such high juice. He's not giving us any information we do not understand. He's only here for an argument. What positive thing did he (bigtenwatto) post? Please tell me?

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. If someone comes in here posting negatively, I gotta go to bat for my fellow bettors. I'm starting to hear so much negativity that I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't the covers.com experts trying to get us out of here and into thier pockets. I mean look at you choe20, a new member since 2012 with 19 posts. HMMMM????? So you JUST JUMPED ON BOARD LAST MONTH AND STARTED BLINDLY BETTING THIS SYSTEM? And you saw my mistake of starting the system too early??? That's 2 losses right out the gate and you still follow? Come on. Personally, I would be stupid to just find a system last month, loses 2X and continue on board betting $500 a game at -200 juice, and now you have the experience to write about it? Hell, at least BigTenWatto has been around a while. How much backtesting DO YOU REALLY KNOW? Have you done any? NOPE.

And yes, only bet with money you are willing to lose.

Man, soon I will have the L.A. Times and Wall Street Journal knocking on my door.

Jattdoit

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 12:50 AM ET #1656

Well said BTW! I'm up big time with this system, because I use my better judgment. We all bet with our free Will, you do not forc

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Jattdoit

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 12:52 AM ET #1657

Force us to bet our bank roll every game.

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gbpackman

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 12:59 AM ET #1658

You should always have enough $$$ in reserve to hedge a bet when the shit hits the fan! As soon as I heard TEX was resting key players, I bet on KC and lost a little juice.

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gbpackman

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:00 AM ET #1659

Tomorrow, I will bet on TEX if they don't rest any players.

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choe20

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:03 AM ET #1660

Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

Here's the problem choe20, it's not that he is not correct, but it's the fact he came in attacking and posting negatively. The fact is, WE ALL KNOW THE RISK in chase systems. Especially this one with such high juice. He's not giving us any information we do not understand. He's only here for an argument. What positive thing did he (bigtenwatto) post? Please tell me?

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. If someone comes in here posting negatively, I gotta go to bat for my fellow bettors. I'm starting to hear so much negativity that I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't the covers.com experts trying to get us out of here and into thier pockets. I mean look at you choe20, a new member since 2012 with 19 posts. HMMMM????? So you JUST JUMPED ON BOARD LAST MONTH AND STARTED BLINDLY BETTING THIS SYSTEM? And you saw my mistake of starting the system too early??? That's 2 losses right out the gate and you still follow? Come on. Personally, I would be stupid to just find a system last month, loses 2X and continue on board betting $500 a game at -200 juice, and now you have the experience to write about it? Hell, at least BigTenWatto has been around a while. How much backtesting DO YOU REALLY KNOW? Have you done any? NOPE.

And yes, only bet with money you are willing to lose.

Man, soon I will have the L.A. Times and Wall Street Journal knocking on my door.

Ok heres where you're totally wrong...:

1.) Me being a new member has nothing to do with what I post. I followed the system last year and decided to join to congratulate you on the success you've had. I assume than that you would make assumptions that I blindly tailed this last month because of that. Me being a new member and in any relation to someones "post count" has nothing to do with their knowledge in any sort of way.

2.) 500$ is 3% of my investment as I already stated my bankroll. Everyone values money differently.

3.) I already posted in this thread how I have added different filters and strategies. I am currently [51-6-0] with 2 losses being from a 3 game loss, 2 being a 2 game loss and 1 being just a 1 game loss that i used in one of my filters. My ROI currently stands around 20% so i'm pretty sure I have some sense in what I am doing...

It's kind of sad that you judged someone on their knowledge of sports handicapping because of their post count.. I've been a member for a while over on SBR and literally made this one to congratulate you on your success. Then again, I don't blame you because there are a lot of arrogant posters on this thread.

All I simply pointed out was that you two were arguing about dollars which is wrong. Discuss about percentages cause units/dollars dont mean anything in this system.

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Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

Here's the problem choe20, it's not that he is not correct, but it's the fact he came in attacking and posting negatively. The fact is, WE ALL KNOW THE RISK in chase systems. Especially this one with such high juice. He's not giving us any information we do not understand. He's only here for an argument. What positive thing did he (bigtenwatto) post? Please tell me?

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. If someone comes in here posting negatively, I gotta go to bat for my fellow bettors. I'm starting to hear so much negativity that I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't the covers.com experts trying to get us out of here and into thier pockets. I mean look at you choe20, a new member since 2012 with 19 posts. HMMMM????? So you JUST JUMPED ON BOARD LAST MONTH AND STARTED BLINDLY BETTING THIS SYSTEM? And you saw my mistake of starting the system too early??? That's 2 losses right out the gate and you still follow? Come on. Personally, I would be stupid to just find a system last month, loses 2X and continue on board betting $500 a game at -200 juice, and now you have the experience to write about it? Hell, at least BigTenWatto has been around a while. How much backtesting DO YOU REALLY KNOW? Have you done any? NOPE.

And yes, only bet with money you are willing to lose.

Man, soon I will have the L.A. Times and Wall Street Journal knocking on my door.

Ok heres where you're totally wrong...:

1.) Me being a new member has nothing to do with what I post. I followed the system last year and decided to join to congratulate you on the success you've had. I assume than that you would make assumptions that I blindly tailed this last month because of that. Me being a new member and in any relation to someones "post count" has nothing to do with their knowledge in any sort of way.

2.) 500$ is 3% of my investment as I already stated my bankroll. Everyone values money differently.

3.) I already posted in this thread how I have added different filters and strategies. I am currently [51-6-0] with 2 losses being from a 3 game loss, 2 being a 2 game loss and 1 being just a 1 game loss that i used in one of my filters. My ROI currently stands around 20% so i'm pretty sure I have some sense in what I am doing...

It's kind of sad that you judged someone on their knowledge of sports handicapping because of their post count.. I've been a member for a while over on SBR and literally made this one to congratulate you on your success. Then again, I don't blame you because there are a lot of arrogant posters on this thread.

All I simply pointed out was that you two were arguing about dollars which is wrong. Discuss about percentages cause units/dollars dont mean anything in this system.

choe20

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:05 AM ET #1661

sorry correction, 2 were just 1 game losses. Regardless, best of luck to everyone following the system

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bettor2win

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:08 AM ET #1662

See ALREADY CHOE20, a system isn' black and white. Read the above posts. These guys are not dumb. As a matter of fact, we have fun doing this and though it wont make us rich, it will put money in our pockets to buy covers.com picks LOL

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choe20

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:14 AM ET #1663

I agree about the negativity in his post but all I merely said was to look at it from percentages not by dollars. Also, I never said the system was black and white. Actually, this system has the potential to create substantial returns. It has the possibility to make you very profitable.

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bettor2win

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:18 AM ET #1664

Amen, it looked more like a backhanded compliment on your last line, and still does. Anyway, I'm glad to be of service. Glad you could start a system using some other filters.

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bettor2win

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:19 AM ET #1665

Well, I' m in the process of copyrighting it now. Do you have any filters you think we could add to this?

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choe20

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:25 AM ET #1666

Really all you need to do is look at this in relation to the stock market. From what I have (and i know my record for 2011 is off so lets look at 10' and 09')

2010: 74-1-0

2009: 76-2-0

Lets say in theory each loss is about 10-12 wins. Invest 3% and your ROI by the end of the season is between 120-140%. Although a small sample size any return of 30% or more in sports betting is amazing.

All it comes down to is how large your bankroll is. Lets say this is consistent for the next 5 seasons. I would even say I would invest (eventually) anywhere between 200 - 400k into this and risking around 1-2%.

I grew up learning the market and applying everything through statistics as well as learning psychological behaviour's that occur within investments.

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TheGovernor11

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:26 AM ET #1667

B2W- Props to you for not just flipping out and flaming so many people. How you control yourself is beyond me. I want to interject myself in some of these conversations just to rant at people for bitching about losing a GAME in a chase. Not losing a chase, but a freaking game. It's like what the fuck man? Your suppose to not only win all the chases but have every single pick be correct.

Doesn't matter though because your system is only decent and I can make it/have made it better. This is where I'm going to pivot the conversation and and try to discreetly start promoting myself and my awesomeness. You guys should check it out.

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choe20

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:26 AM ET #1668

I'm in the works of trying to put things together that become more fluent onto excel but I will get back to you once its foolproof.

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choe20

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:30 AM ET #1669

But its a combination of being able to find a correlation between team trends in the current seasons with historic head-to-head data from 08' - present. Example, all the games you had as lean except NYM (so WAS, TEX, LAD, CLE) all passed the filter. Also, I wanna try and formulate putting together leans as a potential B/C or even just a C chase

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bettor2win

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:33 AM ET #1670

Sounds good! Im anxious to hear. Bought some AAPL myself they other day. As for you Governor11, we already knew your greatness. :) stay strong brotha.

Man. That wore me out. Wheres Sarah J. Phillips?

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bettor2win

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:41 AM ET #1671

Good to see some new faces in here! Love the Governor11. You crack me up with that last post. Yes, understood it LOL.

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TheGovernor11

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 1:48 AM ET #1672

Haha glad I can entertain. Gotta pay you back somehow for adding another system to my arsenal.

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Jaycut

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 3:39 AM ET #1673

Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

Some of us DON'T double up...I use labby lines dude.

Can you give me an example how to use labby lines.

As I don't want to back TEX at 1.37 odds and there pitcher isn't 100%.

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zcecil

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 4:44 AM ET #1674

Quote Originally Posted by BigTenWatto:

What do you mean I don't know what I'm talking about? The math speaks for itself. Now tomorrow you have to

win back the $866 plus the $100 you originally wanted. The juice as it stands now is -235. So tomorrow you have to lay $2270! LOL, no one following this website is putting down that kind of money on one game - if you were, you wouldn't be reading websites, you'd be living in suites in Vegas.

If your point was that RPI isn't for you, then I agree.

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RealRedDragon

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Posted: May. 16, 2012 - 7:30 AM ET #1675

Last december I'd realized all I wanted about "public RPI systems" like this one then iraqe wrote:

"Another thing t consider is regardless of the juice a win is a win. Even with the juice at -276 your still making money. Some argue that it isn't worth the risk, but I disagree. Most bettors can't see past todays game. When your playing systems like this you have to look at the season."

I disagree. I think it's hard to survive untill the end of the season with any RPI system. 5-6 losses in a row with -150 ML and game over.

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