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            Your assessment is absolutely correct..the best always, may you prosper
 
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              No confusion here, only "adjustments" and procedure changes on the Release Sheet...no big deal,
 
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Wow SN.  You really ripped into me there.  I wasn't trying to be rude to you, simply pointing out some inconsistent patterns in your documentation, as many others did.  I apologize if I offended you.
 
As I said in the very first line, 4-0 is extremely impressive.  Well done and thanks for the posts. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by UsaSurfer:

Well done SN.  Anyone would be proud with a 4-0 week.

 "To be consistent with your previous 4 weeks you should be claiming far less than +15 units."

stop the whinning, based on your own words, you made an effort to front me off by making claim that my units are not accurate, and my achievement of +15units is a fabrication..daaaaah! which I happen to recent dramatically.. so take your "as many others did" and find another thread to insult, and refer to the author as a liar; without one single fact, other than your shallow opinion to back up your statement. LEARN TO READ A "RELEASE SHEET" believe me, they are not complicated, nor evasive in any way. My particular sheet is based on 'facts' and stats..NOT opinions...STATS, don't lie...good-bye

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Quote Originally Posted by 53percent:

please tell me you hadnt really missed this "anomoly" in book keeping. nice picks, but dont believe the #s. those early ml loses were calculated as units wagered equalling units lost, now this??
 
oh well no sketchier than aig, bookeeping and they dont pick any winners

just to clarify i am absolutely calling sn a liar and phoney. but one who does win, just not to the level "documented"

 
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SN,
Keep up the good work. I chose to play some of your games and pick my own units to fit my budget. Your record stands for itself!
Lets keep on winning!
 
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SN you are one of the best i have seen so far.......keep up the good work man...

Add me to your friend list sent you a request..
 
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Alright Ladies Gentlement and it seems alot of children, I can't keep my mouth shut any longer.   It seems that alot of you are fellow followers of SN like myself.   For those of you who are new, let me telling you that this thread is based on Learning and of  course WINNING.  But it seems that we now have several individual here attempting to damage the concept of this thread, by argueing how many Units SN bets and wagers on!!!!  Well who CARES????????,  this man has consistently proven capp multiple games, with a better win loss ratio the a WHOLE lot of other Cappers, who for some of you  More then likely have paid for and lost.  It is not difficult to understand this or any other thread,  but for some of you it is difficult or should I say it is easier to focus on something extremely unimportant, rather then to participate in a season of making alot of Money.  All you Children and I do mean children, it is past your bed time, now is the time for the Adult to play.................GO TO BED
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 53percent:

just to clarify i am absolutely calling sn a liar and phoney. but one who does win, just not to the level "documented"

And You, are rude,  disrespectful, and you need to find another threat to sabotage, and for now GO TO BED CHILD

 
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Quote Originally Posted by sevenleighton:

And You, are rude,  disrespectful, and you need to find another threat to sabotage, and for now GO TO BED CHILD





53%............  Tell it to the worlds most smallest violin

Welcome to the wall of shame in SN's threads. Take a # it will be a while
Yapp all you want
You now only have respects of youngbucks
Our bankrolls are looking real nice because we how to compute basic arithmetic and know how to wager correctly to the strength of the play even if some don't understand SN's wagering tactics. Common sense says use your own wagering style then that's all
But noooooo -  you got PMS about it

Lets see your picks and wager amounts
Are you doing better then SN ??????
If your are then cool more power to you
Lets track your plays to his and see who has more units at the end of the season

Hahaha................

For those who aren't totally clear on things here but have respect - common sense and looking for a nice Christmas  - we're here for you. That's ok no problem. But for the jackasses we don't care to hold your hand in life
Boo-hoo cry me a river.................

To whom this may concern
If you want to yapp about this thread
Then post your picks and units amounts
If you blow this away then you earn the right to rip this thread all you want

Go ahead -  I triple dog dare ya..................

Results get the last laugh   $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$






 
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Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:





53%............  Tell it to the worlds most smallest violin

Welcome to the wall of shame in SN's threads. Take a # it will be a while
Yapp all you want
You now only have respects of youngbucks
Our bankrolls are looking real nice because we how to compute basic arithmetic and know how to wager correctly to the strength of the play even if some don't understand SN's wagering tactics. Common sense says use your own wagering style then that's all
But noooooo -  you got PMS about it

Lets see your picks and wager amounts
Are you doing better then SN ??????
If your are then cool more power to you
Lets track your plays to his and see who has more units at the end of the season

Hahaha................

For those who aren't totally clear on things here but have respect - common sense and looking for a nice Christmas  - we're here for you. That's ok no problem. But for the jackasses we don't care to hold your hand in life
Boo-hoo cry me a river.................

To whom this may concern
If you want to yapp about this thread
Then post your picks and units amounts
If you blow this away then you earn the right to rip this thread all you want

Go ahead -  I triple dog dare ya..................

Results get the last laugh   $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$






Very Well Put, as I have followed alot of SN threads, and between us we have made ALOT of $$$$$$.  It does not Matter how many Units a person plays, but rather how many correct pciks are made during the course of the season.  As one person put it, this thread is about participating and learning from each other for the purpose of each of us to become better Cappers, and more importantly better people, when people come to this thread and attempt to discredit each other, then what have we learned?  NOTHING, other then some people just want there cake and eat it too.
 
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Quality 7leighton..........

Mmmm........ I like cake
Haha......

Better put about those units.
Any wack job like Brandon Lang can throw a 50 unit game out there......
Only to make up poop load of bad picks

Consistency is keen with proper MM to reach the land of
MILF'S AND HONEY.........


 
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Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:


Quality 7leighton..........

Mmmm........ I like cake
Haha......

Better put about those units.
Any wack job like Brandon Lang can throw a 50 unit game out there......
Only to make up poop load of bad picks

Consistency is keen with proper MM to reach the land of
MILF'S AND HONEY.........




I'm pretty sure your cash cow through out a 30 unit game earlier this season.... haha what a contradicting statement.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sevenleighton:

Very Well Put, as I have followed alot of SN threads, and between us we have made ALOT of $$$$$$.  It does not Matter how many Units a person plays, but rather how many correct pciks are made during the course of the season.  As one person put it, this thread is about participating and learning from each other for the purpose of each of us to become better Cappers, and more importantly better people, when people come to this thread and attempt to discredit each other, then what have we learned?  NOTHING, other then some people just want there cake and eat it too.


This sir is a very very false statement.
 
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The above statement I have highlighted is true under these conditions:

1. That every game you bet on has the exact same odds (-110), which would be betting against the spread or totals usually and

2. Betting the same unit on each and every game.

That's the only time correct picks and winning percentage have more than no validity at all. And that's not what goes on in here, as there are parlays and big time ML favorites as the picks. So winning percentage is just a big misleading number.


 
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And that is the exact reason SN wants to rid these types of people who bring this up on this thread like myself and previous posters.

He is not stupid, this man is a genius. He is an unbelievable handicapper, the best I have ever come across, and one of the best in the business, with questionable money management skills (which is more of a by product from the type of capping he does - watching film rather than technical capping), and excellent deception and people skills.

SN will comment on this and bash me again, as will his followers on here, but I can care less.



 
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Maybe we're talking about apples and oranges here Freaky
I have no beef with a big come up going balls to the wall
After all it takes money to money
It would suck to lose a big play after long hard fought wins now all washed away because someone told me to bet the house
Come NBA this year I will bring something to the table that will scare the bejeebies out of a lot of cats.
But its a winner
Not an NBA fan though but this is business
There is no right or wrong way proper MM
What works for you or SN may not work for me and vise versa
Our bankrolls at the end of the day will dictate if we are right or wrong
Me personally I do not risk blowing my loads on a certain play

After all we are betting on certainty in an uncertain world
Anything can happen
I look at the forest - not the tree

I do not follow religiously SN's wagering tactics but put them into perspective when and if I choose to follow some if not all of his plays. I go with what I feel I can handle risk vs reward wise for my steeds
I am not sheep but do respect what he is doing

What 7leighton said can't be a false because its his opinion
If he is sitting pretty then that MM strategy he uses works for hime that is
You might travel a different road
Opinions can't be right or wrong. They are opinions

But Brandon Lang and others like him?????????????
Its not even worth talking about
 
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Its cool yo.........
Your talking about flat wagering in sorts I suppose
But laying juice or going for dogs and even parlaying with the right MM in the long term can back up that statement. Thtat's a fact
Pure mathmatics just by applying the right plan of attack

If you look back at bit our boy  53%  was yapping away and 7 and I were following up on that
Mr. so called veteran to the game fits what you just said about those who just don't understand
My bankroll don't lie when others question how can this thread be successful but its not anyone's business for me to show them for whoever wants to trust me.
Your right
When I see my BR........
I don't see a winning %
But $$$$$$$$$$$$ whether + or - in the long run
BUt winning % illustrates how strong of whatever what the plan of attack is

 
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Seriously, is it really that hard to read a release sheet?

Go through all the bets he's made prior to the last week. In all cases the units to win were whole units (non-teaser bets). 

From week 4

moneyline
Colts -550 ML / 11units (TO WIN 2)
Cowboys -140 ML / 4.2units (TO WIN 3)
Steelers -250 ML / 7.5units (TO WIN 3)
Giants -380 ML / 11.4units (TO WIN 3)
 
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BALTIMORE +3  -110 / 4.4units (TO WIN 4)
 
favourite
CINCINNATI -5  -110 / 3.3units (TO WIN 3)



Now, we have week 5 

NYG&PHI / twin ML   5units (approx. -400, so to win 1.25 units?)
 
MINN / ML  5units (around -600ML, so to win .8 units?)
 
CAR / ML   5units  (around -200 ML, so to win 2.5 units?)


Why suddenly would the units won take decimal form?? He just changed it from risked to "to win" without expressly stating it but still implying it through his wager release.

Now, lets stop this nitpicking and move on with things.

Good luck with week 6, SN.
 
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I have been reading this thread and have been impressed with SN!
 
Congrats on your success...I think I will finish out the season under your wing...im doing ok with two other paid cappers... but i really like your teaser bet!
 
I am also glad to see your controlled handling of the shit stirrers!
 
Keep up the good work and Good Luck To All This Week!!
 
 
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SN (or anybody else who has been a follower) I was wondering, I know you stated that you previously had a MLB thread (which I followed) and NHL (which i did not).  Are doing NHL this season, or do you, or anybody also has a link to previous season(s) so I can read through it.  Thank you in advance and as always i wish you Best of Luck!

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Quote Originally Posted by snyder9:

Seriously, is it really that hard to read a release sheet?

Go through all the bets he's made prior to the last week. In all cases the units to win were whole units (non-teaser bets). 

From week 4

moneyline
Colts -550 ML / 11units (TO WIN 2)
Cowboys -140 ML / 4.2units (TO WIN 3)
Steelers -250 ML / 7.5units (TO WIN 3)
Giants -380 ML / 11.4units (TO WIN 3)
 
dog
BALTIMORE +3  -110 / 4.4units (TO WIN 4)
 
favourite
CINCINNATI -5  -110 / 3.3units (TO WIN 3)



Now, we have week 5 

NYG&PHI / twin ML   5units (approx. -400, so to win 1.25 units?)
 
MINN / ML  5units (around -600ML, so to win .8 units?)
 
CAR / ML   5units  (around -200 ML, so to win 2.5 units?)


Why suddenly would the units won take decimal form?? He just changed it from risked to "to win" without expressly stating it but still implying it through his wager release.

Now, lets stop this nitpicking and move on with things.

Good luck with week 6, SN.


Snyder, if this release sheet is so easy to read for you, why then do you have to use ??? and approximations?

It's not that SN does not know how to properly document a pick:
All his super teasers are done in the correct way, risk xx to win yy.

I don't understand why he does not document his other picks in the correct way too.

I will suggest, that if there are problems reading his release sheets, we ask him to clarify before kick off.
Then we will be without this annoying discussion after the games.
 
 
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Posted: #325
Quote Originally Posted by 3put:



Snyder, if this release sheet is so easy to read for you, why then do you have to use ??? and approximations?


I used the "??" the highlight the absurdity of decimal win amounts when SN used whole number win amounts through week 4. Reading the release sheet properly, you would know that those bets are TO WIN 5 units. End of story.

As for the approximations, that was because I used averaged historical closing odds for those picks as I didn't play those games to know what the exact odds were.

Regardless, he doesn't have an obligation here to make things easy for us. Like he said, he is doing this for documentation sake. 

Why piss on it when he's kind enough to share it at the same time?!
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